Guest guest Posted November 8, 2008 Report Share Posted November 8, 2008 MEDITATION FRUSTRATION Ok, my ego does not like to admit this but, I am not a good meditater. I think and think and day dream and my mind is just not quite. For a while I was practicing vipasana and it was working for me…a bit…better than just focusing on my breath or a chakra or an energy circuit. Now I am trying the meditation recommended on this site and my mind is getting busy again. What to do???? Any suggestions? I have thought of adding the vipasana approach to the focus on the third eye. It would work like this, I get into position. Turn my eyes up and in. Breath into my third eye When my mind starts to wander I label it, " thought " and return to breathing into the third eye. and when my mind wanders again i lable it, " thought " and return to my third eye focus. What do you think? rich Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 8, 2008 Report Share Posted November 8, 2008 Here is a method that helped me and it is the compression prayer. But it is easily adapted towards a meditative format. I used this statement. " I am at one with the all that I am at one with the all that I am at one with the all that I am at..... " and so forth. It is an overlapping mantra. This can keep your mind busy until you reach an area where the mind will become still. It is harder than it would appear. You can to do this in conjunction with the inhale saying the mantra six times. Then holding at the top of the inhale saying the mantra six times. Then releasing the breath saying the mantra six times. You can then increase the repetitions to nine when you are comfortable. All of this with the over riding intention of " at one ness " with all that you are. This includes the shadow self as well. So you can try this nine times. At least once a day consecutively and no less than 1/2 hour at a time. Perhaps this will help you as well. - , " Richard Eisenberg " <Pyaar333 wrote: >MEDITATION FRUSTRATION > Ok, my ego does not like to admit this but, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 8, 2008 Report Share Posted November 8, 2008 Hi Chrism, > It is an overlapping mantra. This can keep your mind busy until you reach an area where the mind will become still. It is harder than it would appear. < It must be hard ~ it took a friend of mine 25 years to completely still his mind ~ Angelina , " chrism " <> wrote: > > Here is a method that helped me and it is the compression prayer. > But it is easily adapted towards a meditative format. I used this > statement. > > " I am at one with the all that I am at one with the all that I am > at one with the all that I am at..... " and so forth. > > It is an overlapping mantra. This can keep your mind busy until you > reach an area where the mind will become still. It is harder than it > would appear. > > You can to do this in conjunction with the inhale saying the mantra > six times. > Then holding at the top of the inhale saying the mantra six times. > Then releasing the breath saying the mantra six times. > > You can then increase the repetitions to nine when you are > comfortable. > > All of this with the over riding intention of " at one ness " with all > that you are. This includes the shadow self as well. > > So you can try this nine times. At least once a day consecutively > and no less than 1/2 hour at a time. Perhaps this will help you as > well. - > > > , " Richard > Eisenberg " <Pyaar333@> wrote: > >MEDITATION FRUSTRATION > > Ok, my ego does not like to admit this but, > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 8, 2008 Report Share Posted November 8, 2008 Hey Rich, I've been practicing vipasana as well and one thing that has really helped me, and this actually gets to the point that it includes all aspects of mindfulness: mindfulness of body, mindfulness of emotion, mindfulness of thought, mindfulness of objects of awareness. I found it quite helpful to first begin with awareness of my breath. Then after a few minutes, I imagine prana coming into my body and feel it (it helps to imagine with each in-breath a luminous substance going into your body and with each out-breath it lighting up my body and basically making my body into a light bulb, with each out-breath making it brighter and brighter). I continue this until a become aware of a tingling sensation all through the body, basically feeling the aliveness of the body, this is becoming aware of the prana in the body, or chi, or the inner body, whatever name you like. Once I feel it, I let go of the visualization and focus more on the feeling (when you're focused on this feeling you can become aware of emotions as they arise). And now that I'm aware of both the breath and the chi, I have that as my foundation to keep me present, I become aware of thoughts and the space between thoughts. When I'm able, I have more interest in the silent gaps between thoughts than I do with the thoughts themselves (try not to judge the thoughts away but allow them to be). When I have more interest in the silent spaces, they naturally grow longer until I get the feeling that my true home is the silent space, the unmanifested, the formless, and even if thoughts arise, I'm sill and alert and aware of the silence that encompasses everything, including thoughts (so basically aware of the silence even when noise happens). My mind becomes more inclined to quiet because it's so peaceful and blissful, and so crystal clear, like I've been swimming in a mud hole and have just been shown a glacial lake, pristine. Hope this helps Namaste Craig , " Richard Eisenberg " <Pyaar333 wrote: > > MEDITATION FRUSTRATION > > Ok, my ego does not like to admit this but, I am not a good > meditater. I think and think and day dream and my mind is just not > quite. For a while I was practicing vipasana and it was working for > me…a bit…better than just focusing on my breath or a chakra or an > energy circuit. Now I am trying the meditation recommended on this > site and my mind is getting busy again. > > What to do???? > > Any suggestions? > > > I have thought of adding the vipasana approach to the focus on the > third eye. It would work like this, > > I get into position. > Turn my eyes up and in. > Breath into my third eye > When my mind starts to wander I label it, " thought " and return to > breathing into the third eye. and when my mind wanders again i lable > it, " thought " and return to my third eye focus. > > What do you think? > > rich > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 8, 2008 Report Share Posted November 8, 2008 Hi Gypsy this is a simple but effective way to stop the mind. Focus your attention on your breath. Breathe in for 7 breathe out to 7, once you can feel the rhythm stop counting to seven , just listen to your breath , focus on your breath letting go of trying, and then the mind falls away by itself. Paula~ , " gypsyeyes_101 " <gypsyeyes_101 wrote: > > Hi Chrism, > > > It is an overlapping mantra. This can keep your mind busy until you > reach an area where the mind will become still. It is harder than it > would appear. < > > It must be hard ~ it took a friend of mine 25 years to completely > still his mind ~ Angelina > > > , " chrism " > <@> wrote: > > > > Here is a method that helped me and it is the compression prayer. > > But it is easily adapted towards a meditative format. I used this > > statement. > > > > " I am at one with the all that I am at one with the all that I am > > at one with the all that I am at..... " and so forth. > > > > It is an overlapping mantra. This can keep your mind busy until you > > reach an area where the mind will become still. It is harder than it > > would appear. > > > > You can to do this in conjunction with the inhale saying the mantra > > six times. > > Then holding at the top of the inhale saying the mantra six times. > > Then releasing the breath saying the mantra six times. > > > > You can then increase the repetitions to nine when you are > > comfortable. > > > > All of this with the over riding intention of " at one ness " with all > > that you are. This includes the shadow self as well. > > > > So you can try this nine times. At least once a day consecutively > > and no less than 1/2 hour at a time. Perhaps this will help you as > > well. - > > > > > > , " Richard > > Eisenberg " <Pyaar333@> wrote: > > >MEDITATION FRUSTRATION > > > Ok, my ego does not like to admit this but, > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 8, 2008 Report Share Posted November 8, 2008 Thank you Paula! Was talking to a friend in the UK earlier tonight! , " alayafire " <ari.reza wrote: > > Hi Gypsy this is a simple but effective way to stop the mind. > Focus your attention on your breath. Breathe in for 7 breathe out > to 7, once you can feel the rhythm stop counting to seven , just > listen to your breath , focus on your breath letting go of trying, > and then the mind falls away by itself. > Paula~ > > > > , " gypsyeyes_101 " > <gypsyeyes_101@> wrote: > > > > Hi Chrism, > > > > > It is an overlapping mantra. This can keep your mind busy until > you > > reach an area where the mind will become still. It is harder than it > > would appear. < > > > > It must be hard ~ it took a friend of mine 25 years to completely > > still his mind ~ Angelina > > > > > > , " chrism " > > <@> wrote: > > > > > > Here is a method that helped me and it is the compression > prayer. > > > But it is easily adapted towards a meditative format. I used this > > > statement. > > > > > > " I am at one with the all that I am at one with the all that I > am > > > at one with the all that I am at..... " and so forth. > > > > > > It is an overlapping mantra. This can keep your mind busy until > you > > > reach an area where the mind will become still. It is harder than > it > > > would appear. > > > > > > You can to do this in conjunction with the inhale saying the > mantra > > > six times. > > > Then holding at the top of the inhale saying the mantra six > times. > > > Then releasing the breath saying the mantra six times. > > > > > > You can then increase the repetitions to nine when you are > > > comfortable. > > > > > > All of this with the over riding intention of " at one ness " with > all > > > that you are. This includes the shadow self as well. > > > > > > So you can try this nine times. At least once a day consecutively > > > and no less than 1/2 hour at a time. Perhaps this will help you > as > > > well. - > > > > > > > > > , " Richard > > > Eisenberg " <Pyaar333@> wrote: > > > >MEDITATION FRUSTRATION > > > > Ok, my ego does not like to admit this but, > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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