Jump to content
IndiaDivine.org

Expectations, surrender, service

Rate this topic


Guest guest

Recommended Posts

When you asked these questions a year or so ago the answers seemed

easy. With time and more understanding the full reality attached to

them is not quite so simple.

 

Expectation – that is the easy one to answer even if the answer is as

complex as the rest. I seek enlightenment, self-realisation and

ultimately divine communication.

 

Surrender? That's getting hard. I am working on surrendering my ego,

to being driven and guided by my high self, trying not to be directed

and motivated by my conscious mind – but its not easy. Breaking the

conditioning of a lifetime of being in control or actively taking

control of most situations to stand back more as an observer and

letting others find themselves is hard at times – especially when

under pressure.

 

Service? I used to do a fair bit of healing – it seemed easy – until

a number of terminal patients died quickly. I didn't know then what I

know now, and their deaths shattered my confidence – I thought I was

killing them. They died fast, in reduced pain, and I understand now

that I helped to release them at a time when they needed that release.

I want to go down that healing road again but I need to convince

myself first that I can really help in that regard. Time is against

me on a day-to-day basis – I run a conglomerate in a collapsing

country – there is always something that needs to be done urgently.

However I am in a position to influence many in the community at large

in addition to many employees – I believe that the greatest service I

can offer is to help them find themselves, to find their true paths,

to achieve their true and full potential. I want to direct and help

as many as I can down the path of self-realisation and enlightenment

and, while it is not an easy path I feel that that would be the

greatest service I could offer!

 

Blessings - Jonathan

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Hello Jonathan,If I may please, there is no real surrender - just letting go. Run on instinct, finest fuel in the universe, ask for guidance each morning and direction for the best for all (hopefully you will be included ;-), keeping asking for guidance as often as you can or remember to do so) and let it rip.

" there is a time and tide in the affairs of men " - get out of the way, you could be holding back the dam that will wash all clean!Even more seriously, STOP. Stop and listen, then ask, listen to that inner voice.

I had a client who told me that he thought Jesus Christ directed him in one of the greatest unfoldings in the last century. Not a fly was harmed, peace came. We are all one, when reading this direct your head into your pocket and only take it out when you want to contemplate on something. When finished put it back. It will learn to appreciate its time with you and the space of contemplation. Until then use instinct, your body knows, your mind just thinks it does.

Tkare,Daniel2008/11/28 jonrow_2914 <jrowland

 

 

 

 

When you asked these questions a year or so ago the answers seemed

easy. With time and more understanding the full reality attached to

them is not quite so simple.

 

Expectation – that is the easy one to answer even if the answer is as

complex as the rest. I seek enlightenment, self-realisation and

ultimately divine communication.

 

Surrender? That's getting hard. I am working on surrendering my ego,

to being driven and guided by my high self, trying not to be directed

and motivated by my conscious mind – but its not easy. Breaking the

conditioning of a lifetime of being in control or actively taking

control of most situations to stand back more as an observer and

letting others find themselves is hard at times – especially when

under pressure.

 

Service? I used to do a fair bit of healing – it seemed easy – until

a number of terminal patients died quickly. I didn't know then what I

know now, and their deaths shattered my confidence – I thought I was

killing them. They died fast, in reduced pain, and I understand now

that I helped to release them at a time when they needed that release.

I want to go down that healing road again but I need to convince

myself first that I can really help in that regard. Time is against

me on a day-to-day basis – I run a conglomerate in a collapsing

country – there is always something that needs to be done urgently.

However I am in a position to influence many in the community at large

in addition to many employees – I believe that the greatest service I

can offer is to help them find themselves, to find their true paths,

to achieve their true and full potential. I want to direct and help

as many as I can down the path of self-realisation and enlightenment

and, while it is not an easy path I feel that that would be the

greatest service I could offer!

 

Blessings - Jonathan

 

 

 

 

-- A work in progress - www.4allthatmatters.com - just like me---------------------

Join in the fun of raising money for your charity – could be the charity's biggest fundraising day.Visit www.thepalateclub.com today to find out more.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Hello Jonathan,

You are in the whirlwind. The whirlwind has become

you. No matter the obstacles now you merely allow and surrender to

that force within. It will give you much intuitive guidance. It will

help you and it will change you and there will need to be some

flexibility by you to incorporate some of these changes.

 

Surrendering your lifetime of habits is not only possible but in the

case of Kundalini it is a distinct probability. Use what word or

phrase you wish to indicate surrender. Allow, allowing, given in,

take a step back, get out of your way, etc.

 

Surrender is a fact in my experience. It is as much of a fact as the

actions of the ego are a fact and indeed is an action of the ego to

begin with. It is a conscious choice to feel the impetus towards

surrender with the interaction of the Shakti within you and to have

that interaction with the Shakti feel you and in this communication

the guidance is given.

 

You are doing well Jonathan you are opening your heart to others and

to yourself. You are actively helping people under very hard

conditions and you are giving service as a way of life. The healing

of illness will come and is already even an aspect of your

expression but Kundalini will change the dynamic and amplitude and

remove much of the doubt and ego driven concerns from the process

thereby freeing upon the effectiveness of the healing process. So no

worries there.

 

You have already begun your teachings of others by the questions

that you ask. It inspires others to ask the same questions and in

asking them they to come into the awareness of where their personal

options will lead them. Enlightenment is a many faceted jewel and we

come into the facet(s) as is best for us as individuals. So we are

opening the options for others by opening them within ourselves. I

see you doing this and I also see Shakti has responded. It may

respond in them by virtue of your guidance towards them Jonathan.

 

Now pay attention to the dreams that will come to you no matter the

previous frequency of memory or retention. You will remember Shakti

orchestrated dreams. Bring them here to us if the meaning is

confusing or to me if it is of a private nature and we can help you

discover the options being presented to you. - blessings to you

Jonathan! - chrism

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Hi chrism - many thanks for that! You refer to the whirlwind - what

exactly do you mean by that?

 

blessings - Jonathan

 

, " chrism "

<> wrote:

>

> Hello Jonathan,

> You are in the whirlwind. The whirlwind has become

> you. No matter the obstacles now you merely allow and surrender to

> that force within.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Often the rising of the Shakti and Shiva wtth in is felt as an

ascending vortex of energy rising. Or stationary and swirling. The

Sufi's saw this as an example of the whirlwinds of sand in the desert.

 

Kundalini is often experienced as an ascending circular in movement

conscious presence or energy. The automatic movement at the base of

the spine that gently expresses as a circular movement when meditating

is one example. The snake dance of the Shakti inspired kind - not the

entertainment examples - but the Shakti induced expressions upon the

human spine are another example.

 

I say this to you as I feel your K responding within you. -blessings

Jonathan. - chrism

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You are posting as a guest. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

Loading...
×
×
  • Create New...