Golden Dawn, Crowley, Oija Boards and others.....Be careful...

December 7, 2008

I would agree with here. As many may know I am a Wican 3rd

degree HP's and have been involved with the Occult, Reiki and many

other systems over the past 35yrs. I am very adept at these practices

but have put them all to one side while I concentrate on the raising

of my Kundalini and all that it involves.

I took part in a Kundalini healing conference some months ago and had

a bad physical reaction while taking part. The reason for this was

because I was using my learned methods of long distance Reiki healing

while using the Kundalini energies. I can attest that the two methods

are not compatible!

If you are a Reiki healer, spiritual healer or use another healing

modality, think deeply about what you really want. If you are a

member of an occult or New Age group please read up on the

differences between that and Kundalini as they may not work together

and you may do yourself and others physical and mental harm.

I have many friends in the Golden Dawn and they have methods of

awakening the Kundalini in order to reach the higher grades in their

Order. They do not follow the safeties as listed in this group and

although some of them succeed in K. awakening it has come with many

physical and mental problems related to the ego which is not

suppressed or controlled in their system.

I am not saying one system is better than the other or brings a

person to enlightenment quicker than the other - its a question of

choice and sticking to one system only.

Blessings,

Skydancer x

, " chrism "

<> wrote:

>

> The early systems of western divination came about with out much of

> the understood conditionings from the east where many of the

> teachings originated cetnuties ago. Much was taken from the mages

> and occultists of the 14th,15th,16th and 17th centurys in Europe as

> well as farther back into the Egyptian and pre Egyptian

> civilizations.

>

> What wasnt brought about or focussed so much on in the early

> nineteenth century were many of the protocols of safety that were

> also to be practiced in tandem with the other practices given. Some

> did come with them I know the Golden Dawn has them but they are not

> well known or well understood and society has evolved a severe

> impatience in learning what is needed to take care of ones self.

> Sacrificing safety for speed.

>

> This being the case. I do not recommend any occult or other methods

> of divination or spiritual summoning or techniques of healing or

any

> tehcniques while one is inside of the study for and practice of the

> Kundalini. It can get very unpleasent. So please take this as a

> warning.

>

> Some of these ancient systems come with thier own sets of DE's.

They

> will compel you to hurt yourself. They can become a voice in the

> head telling you to cause harm for yourself and others. So do not

go

> there. Remember Kundalini takes you into the spiritual AND the

> phsyical at the same time. The ancients called it " having the eye

> lids ripped off " Sounds kind of painful I know but thats what they

> said. I dont think I was born with them. lol!

>

> So keep yourself clear of this curiosity and focus on the guidlines

> that are offered here. No money is made here. No agenda is here

> except to help you into this most loving and exalted state of being

> safely and sanely. It does take focus and work to do this and it is

> much easier without involving ancient DE's with a hurtful agenda.

>

> We focus on love here and forgiveness and the laws of grace. But

> curiosity has a way of coming to a person easily on the internet

and

> I will ask that you do not mix anything with what is given here. -

> blessings to you all! - chrism

>

December 8, 2008

Hi Skydancer,

I'm glad you are back and feeling better. In my searching, I too had "dabbled" in the occult with Ouija, tarot, and readings from two of my Wicca friends. Many of these were accurate, but more often than not, left me with a strange uncomfortable feeling, not what I was truly seeking. After laying these things down, I had a brief thought just yesterday of picking up some of my Louisiana Voodoo, just for fun. I immediately dropped the thought; but last night my dreams reprimanded me. I dreamed I worked in a hotel (which I do in reality) but was summoned to take a room service order up the elevator. And on the silver tray was a bottle of tequila, a cigar, and a LIVE ROOSTER. No more thoughts of the past for me..............I've been warned!!!!!!

Pre-Scatterfield?????

Julie--- On Sun, 12/7/08, Skydancer <ionaskydancer wrote:

Skydancer <ionaskydancer Re: Golden Dawn, Crowley, Oija Boards and others.....Be careful... Date: Sunday, December 7, 2008, 11:02 AM

I would agree with here. As many may know I am a Wican 3rd degree HP's and have been involved with the Occult, Reiki and many other systems over the past 35yrs. I am very adept at these practices but have put them all to one side while I concentrate on the raising of my Kundalini and all that it involves. I took part in a Kundalini healing conference some months ago and had a bad physical reaction while taking part. The reason for this was because I was using my learned methods of long distance Reiki healing while using the Kundalini energies. I can attest that the two methods are not compatible! If you are a Reiki healer, spiritual healer or use another healing modality, think deeply about what you really want. >

December 8, 2008

Hi Julie and Skydancer. I messed with the Ouija board when I was about

19 or so with another friend who was equally entranced by it. It was

fun at first but when it predicted my husband would die young (this was

before I had even started dating the one who would become my first

husband) it freaked me out. And when we put the board on top of a bible

and it went nuts flinging the pointer off everytime we did it, we got

rid of it and never looked back. I won't touch one to this day. As

thrilling as some of it was, it DID leave me with a heavy negative

feeling and I'm sure entities were involved that I felt around me some

of the time, influencing my thoughts. Nasty stuff. I still do tarot

some and use dowsing rods (just learning) and a pendulum. All these are

just occasionally. I don't rely on them because they drain me in some

way. Best to find your own intuition, I've found.

Great reading your experiences!

Much love out to all,

Valarie

December 8, 2008

Actually, when I was about 10 my friends and I started playing with the Ouija board. I think it is poor that Ouija boards are sold in the toy department and marketed as a party game. I had no idea what I was getting into. When I was 12 or 13, my friends and I were dabbling with this when two of us saw a man in my mirror. Then a picture fell off the wall. That was the last time I touched one of those! If someone else hadn't witnessed it with me I would have thought I was crazy.

This is what I love so much about the approach to the Kundalini and to healing here. There are no specials tools, we ARE the tools! It all comes from within, no need to look outside of ourselves. I am very comfortable with this.

Sarita

, Julie <jewelport wrote:>> Hi Skydancer,> I'm glad you are back and feeling better. In my searching, I too had "dabbled" in the occult with Ouija, tarot, and readings from two of my Wicca friends. Many of these were accurate, but more often than not, left me with a strange uncomfortable feeling, not what I was truly seeking. After laying these things down, I had a brief thought just yesterday of picking up some of my Louisiana Voodoo, just for fun. I immediately dropped the thought; but last night my dreams reprimanded me. I dreamed I worked in a hotel (which I do in reality) but was summoned to take a room service order up the elevator. And on the silver tray was a bottle of tequila, a cigar, and a LIVE ROOSTER. No more thoughts of the past for me..............I've been warned!!!!!!> > Pre-Scatterfield?????> > > > > Julie> > --- On Sun, 12/7/08, Skydancer ionaskydancer wrote:> > Skydancer ionaskydancer Re: Golden Dawn, Crowley, Oija Boards and others.....Be careful...> > Sunday, December 7, 2008, 11:02 AM> > > > > > > I would agree with here. As many may know I am a Wican 3rd > degree HP's and have been involved with the Occult, Reiki and many > other systems over the past 35yrs. I am very adept at these practices > but have put them all to one side while I concentrate on the raising > of my Kundalini and all that it involves. > > I took part in a Kundalini healing conference some months ago and had > a bad physical reaction while taking part. The reason for this was > because I was using my learned methods of long distance Reiki healing > while using the Kundalini energies. I can attest that the two methods > are not compatible! > > If you are a Reiki healer, spiritual healer or use another healing > modality, think deeply about what you really want. > >>