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Ever since the Shaktipat I have really been " arguing " with my ego. I

never thought that I would have these types of problems. I considered

myself to be a person that didnt have these issues. Not saying its a

problem but how should I go about this? Does anyone have any

suggestions?

 

L & L,

Devore

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Devore,

If I as you I would listen to it, It mightbe trying to tell you

something. Then decide what you really wish to do.

John .M

, " Devore "

<qutiepie682001 wrote:

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> Ever since the Shaktipat I have really been " arguing " with my ego. I

> never thought that I would have these types of problems. I considered

> myself to be a person that didnt have these issues. Not saying its a

> problem but how should I go about this? Does anyone have any

> suggestions?

>

> L & L,

> Devore

>

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Devore,

It's just the mind trying to keep itself busy and give you the

impression that is is more than just "thoughts arising" which is all it

is. Answer all thoughts will the phrase "Oh, well" and after a while

the mind will begin to clear. You are not your thoughts, you are not

your experiences. You just "are".

 

Blessings to you

 

Dell

 

johndplumber wrote:

 

Devore,

If I as you I would listen to it, It mightbe trying to tell you something. Then decide what you really wish to do.

John .M

, "Devore" <qutiepie682001 wrote:

 

 

Ever since the Shaktipat I have really been "arguing" with my ego. I never thought that I would have these types of problems. I considered myself to be a person that didnt have these issues. Not saying its a problem but how should I go about this? Does anyone have any suggestions?

L & L,

Devore

 

 

 

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I would have to agree that " arguing " with ego would prove fruitless if

not actually empowering the ego even more so . Kundalini can bring

realization of the ego and also the knowledge to understand its

purpose or role for our existence in this physical awareness . We are

born in the flesh and at the same time we forget to remember . This is

when the ego is also born and we are already unknowingly cultivating

this ego .

 

If the awareness that kundalini can give is making you question

yourself , others or a myriad of ideas , then i would say to let these

question come up and then have patience that you will also be given

the answers . Arguing with a self created identity or ego will not

prove helpful in my opinion .

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who says any one creates there own ego, one can only create charactor and thats out of a reflected ego

one has conciousness, it is ego though one after new exsperiences or learnings may argue with previous concepts over new ones. All it is doing is filtering out the junk. This is sometime done conciously sometime unconciously sometimes superconciosly.

Just my thoughts.

John .M

 

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chadtree1

Thursday, January 08, 2009 1:43 PM

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I would have to agree that "arguing" with ego would prove fruitless ifnot actually empowering the ego even more so . Kundalini can bringrealization of the ego and also the knowledge to understand itspurpose or role for our existence in this physical awareness . We areborn in the flesh and at the same time we forget to remember . This iswhen the ego is also born and we are already unknowingly cultivatingthis ego . If the awareness that kundalini can give is making you questionyourself , others or a myriad of ideas , then i would say to let thesequestion come up and then have patience that you will also be giventhe answers . Arguing with a self created identity or ego will notprove helpful in my opinion .

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the rational ego is like a sounding board, or the salesman for its own

established worldview. nonordinary experience or heighened awareness

is perceived as a threat to its legitimacy, and is experienced as a

literal trauma, so it attacks or forcefully defends its territory with

rationalization and psychological tactics. my own experience is that

you will never win an argument with it but can neutralize its power

somewhat by making it confront paradoxes, uncertainty and especially

moral dilemmas. a more radical approach would be zen koans and the

like to effectively paralyze it, at least temporarily, in an

unresolvable or nonsensical problem. this is all merely my opinion

and my own personal experience, as an individual with a strong ego and

intellect. I would guess every individual is different in this respect.

 

-brian

 

, " Devore "

<qutiepie682001 wrote:

>

> Ever since the Shaktipat I have really been " arguing " with my ego. I

> never thought that I would have these types of problems. I considered

> myself to be a person that didnt have these issues. Not saying its a

> problem but how should I go about this? Does anyone have any

> suggestions?

>

> L & L,

> Devore

>

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Brian

I talk to my self though i dont think i ever ague with myself. May be i dont have such an ego after all? is that what he is saying?

Na i dont believe that! Oh I love you . Yes I love you to your my mate

Just thinking aloud sorry :-)

John .M

 

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a_seventh_son

Thursday, January 08, 2009 2:39 PM

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the rational ego is like a sounding board, or the salesman for its ownestablished worldview. nonordinary experience or heighened awarenessis perceived as a threat to its legitimacy, and is experienced as aliteral trauma, so it attacks or forcefully defends its territory withrationalization and psychological tactics. my own experience is thatyou will never win an argument with it but can neutralize its powersomewhat by making it confront paradoxes, uncertainty and especiallymoral dilemmas. a more radical approach would be zen koans and thelike to effectively paralyze it, at least temporarily, in anunresolvable or nonsensical problem. this is all merely my opinionand my own personal experience, as an individual with a strong ego andintellect. I would guess every individual is different in this respect.-brian , "Devore"<qutiepie682001 wrote:>> Ever since the Shaktipat I have really been "arguing" with my ego. I > never thought that I would have these types of problems. I considered > myself to be a person that didnt have these issues. Not saying its a > problem but how should I go about this? Does anyone have any > suggestions?> > L & L,> Devore>

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