Moral Choices

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The choices we make can have an effect upon the way our Kundalini

flow will express. If we make choices that are not in our best

interests, as judged by the Kundalini, the experience can be harsh or

with varying degrees of difficulty. If we make choices that are

supported by the Kundalini the experience can be gentle.

 

Sometimes we must learn from having pain. This is a character trait of

people and it comes from an over emphasized need to maintain a

familiar comfort level rather than having change come into the

personal equation.

 

If you make choices to have certain phenomena not knowing the full

ramifications of the phenomena it may be a teaching for you to learn

more information before committing to that choice. Having can be very

different from wanting.

 

In the west we do not have as much ethical and validated experiential

information of the Kundalini. We have those who practice Kundalini

Yoga which isn't the same as having an awakened Kundalini. We have

people practicing Kundalini Reiki which also isn't the same. We have

authors writing about the Kundalini with out ever having experienced

it. It can be difficult to discern the truth of the subject in this

environment. Yet it can be done. It is a process of discernment and a

process of not allowing personal ego wishes and desires of attention,

power, or position to hold sway over the decision making and

expressive process.

 

The ramifications of certain choices can be very long lasting.

Explorations of certain belief systems carry interactive phenomena

that can snare or trap a person into the specific equations of that

system. Rituals, entities, incantations, exaltation and subjugation

can have results that are not pleasant and indeed are geared towards

the expression of pain that can be endured for many years. These can

be systems that are not moral as we in the west understand morality to

be.

 

These systems can actively work to try and subvert the individual who

is searching for phenomena or exaltation or many of the ego forms of

desire based conditions associated with the Kundalini. Some of these

systems are for the subversion of the Kundalini awakened individual.

Typically these do nothing for the Kundalini they merely trap the

person into a continuing loop of ego expression with pain. Forcing

more and more karma to be collected for balancing in future existences

and slowing down the evolutionary process.

 

Sometimes this is a needed process. There is no rush and it isn't a

race. By slowing down we can learn from the elements of our choices

and make determinations of where we can improve from a soul

perspective of our continuing journey.

 

Morality is a definite substantive expression within the Kundalini

experience. It can act as a compass for the individual with regards to

personal positions of interaction among other people and within

themselves. Morality can steer a person clear of systems that are

generative of ego supported expressions of control typically over

others. Many questions about the individual and the Kundalini can be

answered through the fulcrum or the moral imperatives.

 

We can learn about how we seek and use power. Power over ourselves as

discipline, or power over others, power over the environment, power of

the environment over us, or the power to not attach to the idea of

power. We can ask our self where we are with regards to the choice of

power inside of our Kundalini and we can listen and feel the Kundalini

respond. We can take that response and bring it into conscious expression.

 

There is a constant influx of moral choices to be made on a daily if

not hourly time frame. All of them will hold a guidance to be received

or not. We can choose this. We can choose to hear the moral guidance

or to ignore it even if we hear it, or to not hear it at all.

 

These choices can be very difficult. But for those who can manage the

intense personal honesty that can be required by the Kundalini the

pattern of choices can become a guiding feature in the expression of

the new divine body being awakened within them. This is what I would

suggest.

 

When we embrace a morality that is guided by the Kundalini and not by

our ego will or by the society we live in we can begin to base all of

our responses towards others on a paradigm of moral interaction that

has more in common with the divine expressions emergence within us

than that of the old familiar points of moral response we have come to

know in our past interactive experiences. A new paradigm of moral

interaction.

 

Forgiveness is one aspect of this new moral paradigm. Forgiveness can

allow a person to detach from the idea of revenge or vindictiveness or

from the holding of a grudge from an unsolicited attack by another

person. The feelings of revenge and its many aspects are a form of

bondage that can trap us into expressions of anger that can gravitate

into hatred.

 

We can learn not to succumb to these feelings of anger and to

neutralize them at the start by evoking forgiveness as quickly as

possible and for as many repeated expressions of forgiveness as is

needed. Forgiveness is the key to learning that we need not attach to

anger or sorrow or rage or revenge. Freedom is the result of the

forgiveness process. Freedom from attachment and from the karma that

can come with attachment.

 

Tolerance is another moral choice of allowing a person to be as they

are without judgment or inflicted negativity based upon that way of

being. Even when those persons activities are hurtful and harmful to

themselves. If they are hurtful or harmful to us and others and are

actively reaching out towards us in these ways we can protect our self

and we can choose to keep a distance and this isn't incorrect as we

will not always be in harmony with everyone and some distance can be a

good thing. We can choose not to go to the level of the attacker.

 

Truth will often defray an attacker of forward momentum if they are

coming from a deceitful expression. Stating truth can be difficult

and it can seem harsh if it is a difficult truth to be given but it

can be very helpful to all involved even if it may seem that the

person isn't receiving it, on some level they are receiving and it may

be the seed that is planted for a later harvest. This is an aspect of

love.

 

Compassion for another even when they are being duplicitous or

deceitful can be given. Sometimes a harsher discourse of service is

needed to help another gain a level of personal understanding and we

can choose to not fear this type of communication. Sometimes this type

of communication can be fairly common in the west.

 

Compassion for others is another moral choice. We can have compassion

for another whom we can correctly interpret as being in pain. We can

help or come to their aid if it is asked for and sometimes even if it

isn't asked for as emergencies of life and limb will preempt any kind

of permission unless they are consciously asking you not to help.

Sometimes the pain of injury can be so intense that a person will not

be able, through the pain, to give conscious permissions.

 

Kundalini will most often gravitate towards the loving interactions.

Most often this frequency and the many related frequencies of the

loving interaction will carry and attract the Kundalini response. When

discussing love it is not the romantic qualities that are being

specifically discussed. Love comes in many formats and the romance is

only one aspect of many regarding this quality of expression.

 

Tough love or love that is being given through the actions of a

discipline sometimes harsh can be far more effective and helpful than

the application of love as expressed inside of romance. Love offers us

many moral choices and it is to us to discern how best to proceed

sometimes in the space of a heartbeat.

 

We have many options to choose from in our expression of daily life.

For the Kundalini awakening it is helpful to choose to examine every

single response and reaction we have in our interactions with others

and our self in order to learn how to sculpt the new divine body into

the living expression of enlightenment. This will take some work and

it will take the ability to surrender. Surrender the will of the ego

to the Kundalini instruction. With practice it becomes as easy as

breathing. -

[Guest guest]

An absolutely wonderful post Chrism, thank you so much for taking the time to write such an informative and enlightening, easy to understand post on such an important topic.It just felt like food to my soul.Much loveelektra x x x

[Guest guest]

Cool post Chrism. Igor.

 

From: Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2009 23:00:38 +0000 Moral Choices

 

 

 

The choices we make can have an effect upon the way our Kundaliniflow will express. If we make choices that are not in our bestinterests, as judged by the Kundalini, the experience can be harsh orwith varying degrees of difficulty. If we make choices that aresupported by the Kundalini the experience can be gentle.Sometimes we must learn from having pain. This is a character trait ofpeople and it comes from an over emphasized need to maintain afamiliar comfort level rather than having change come into thepersonal equation.If you make choices to have certain phenomena not knowing the fullramifications of the phenomena it may be a teaching for you to learnmore information before committing to that choice. Having can be verydifferent from wanting.In the west we do not have as much ethical and validated experientialinformation of the Kundalini. We have those who practice KundaliniYoga which isn't the same as having an awakened Kundalini. We havepeople practicing Kundalini Reiki which also isn't the same. We haveauthors writing about the Kundalini with out ever having experiencedit. It can be difficult to discern the truth of the subject in thisenvironment. Yet it can be done. It is a process of discernment and aprocess of not allowing personal ego wishes and desires of attention,power, or position to hold sway over the decision making andexpressive process.The ramifications of certain choices can be very long lasting.Explorations of certain belief systems carry interactive phenomenathat can snare or trap a person into the specific equations of thatsystem. Rituals, entities, incantations, exaltation and subjugationcan have results that are not pleasant and indeed are geared towardsthe expression of pain that can be endured for many years. These canbe systems that are not moral as we in the west understand morality tobe. These systems can actively work to try and subvert the individual whois searching for phenomena or exaltation or many of the ego forms ofdesire based conditions associated with the Kundalini. Some of thesesystems are for the subversion of the Kundalini awakened individual.Typically these do nothing for the Kundalini they merely trap theperson into a continuing loop of ego expression with pain. Forcingmore and more karma to be collected for balancing in future existencesand slowing down the evolutionary process. Sometimes this is a needed process. There is no rush and it isn't arace. By slowing down we can learn from the elements of our choicesand make determinations of where we can improve from a soulperspective of our continuing journey.Morality is a definite substantive expression within the Kundaliniexperience. It can act as a compass for the individual with regards topersonal positions of interaction among other people and withinthemselves. Morality can steer a person clear of systems that aregenerative of ego supported expressions of control typically overothers. Many questions about the individual and the Kundalini can beanswered through the fulcrum or the moral imperatives.We can learn about how we seek and use power. Power over ourselves asdiscipline, or power over others, power over the environment, power ofthe environment over us, or the power to not attach to the idea ofpower. We can ask our self where we are with regards to the choice ofpower inside of our Kundalini and we can listen and feel the Kundalinirespond. We can take that response and bring it into conscious expression.There is a constant influx of moral choices to be made on a daily ifnot hourly time frame. All of them will hold a guidance to be receivedor not. We can choose this. We can choose to hear the moral guidanceor to ignore it even if we hear it, or to not hear it at all. These choices can be very difficult. But for those who can manage theintense personal honesty that can be required by the Kundalini thepattern of choices can become a guiding feature in the expression ofthe new divine body being awakened within them. This is what I wouldsuggest.When we embrace a morality that is guided by the Kundalini and not byour ego will or by the society we live in we can begin to base all ofour responses towards others on a paradigm of moral interaction thathas more in common with the divine expressions emergence within usthan that of the old familiar points of moral response we have come toknow in our past interactive experiences. A new paradigm of moralinteraction.Forgiveness is one aspect of this new moral paradigm. Forgiveness canallow a person to detach from the idea of revenge or vindictiveness orfrom the holding of a grudge from an unsolicited attack by anotherperson. The feelings of revenge and its many aspects are a form ofbondage that can trap us into expressions of anger that can gravitateinto hatred. We can learn not to succumb to these feelings of anger and toneutralize them at the start by evoking forgiveness as quickly aspossible and for as many repeated expressions of forgiveness as isneeded. Forgiveness is the key to learning that we need not attach toanger or sorrow or rage or revenge. Freedom is the result of theforgiveness process. Freedom from attachment and from the karma thatcan come with attachment. Tolerance is another moral choice of allowing a person to be as theyare without judgment or inflicted negativity based upon that way ofbeing. Even when those persons activities are hurtful and harmful tothemselves. If they are hurtful or harmful to us and others and areactively reaching out towards us in these ways we can protect our selfand we can choose to keep a distance and this isn't incorrect as wewill not always be in harmony with everyone and some distance can be agood thing. We can choose not to go to the level of the attacker.Truth will often defray an attacker of forward momentum if they arecoming from a deceitful expression. Stating truth can be difficult and it can seem harsh if it is a difficult truth to be given but itcan be very helpful to all involved even if it may seem that theperson isn't receiving it, on some level they are receiving and it maybe the seed that is planted for a later harvest. This is an aspect oflove. Compassion for another even when they are being duplicitous ordeceitful can be given. Sometimes a harsher discourse of service isneeded to help another gain a level of personal understanding and wecan choose to not fear this type of communication. Sometimes this typeof communication can be fairly common in the west.Compassion for others is another moral choice. We can have compassionfor another whom we can correctly interpret as being in pain. We canhelp or come to their aid if it is asked for and sometimes even if itisn't asked for as emergencies of life and limb will preempt any kindof permission unless they are consciously asking you not to help.Sometimes the pain of injury can be so intense that a person will notbe able, through the pain, to give conscious permissions.Kundalini will most often gravitate towards the loving interactions.Most often this frequency and the many related frequencies of theloving interaction will carry and attract the Kundalini response. Whendiscussing love it is not the romantic qualities that are beingspecifically discussed. Love comes in many formats and the romance isonly one aspect of many regarding this quality of expression.Tough love or love that is being given through the actions of adiscipline sometimes harsh can be far more effective and helpful thanthe application of love as expressed inside of romance. Love offers usmany moral choices and it is to us to discern how best to proceedsometimes in the space of a heartbeat.We have many options to choose from in our expression of daily life.For the Kundalini awakening it is helpful to choose to examine everysingle response and reaction we have in our interactions with othersand our self in order to learn how to sculpt the new divine body intothe living expression of enlightenment. This will take some work andit will take the ability to surrender. Surrender the will of the egoto the Kundalini instruction. With practice it becomes as easy asbreathing. - Share your holiday memories for free with Windows LiveT Photos. Get started now.

[Guest guest]

I second that! lots to munch on there. I meditated upon the following

paragraph yesterday for a long time.

 

@@@ If you make choices to have certain phenomena not knowing the full

ramifications of the phenomena it may be a teaching for you to learn

more information before committing to that choice. Having can be very

different from wanting.@@@

 

It really just don't seem to me that we have much choice, though

about the phenomena. LOL! Wanting is a lot different than having for

sure. With wanting there is alway something there you're striving for

but never getting. That feeling that there is something

missing...that makes one feel incomplete. You might not want it after

getting it, but at least the incessant wanting ceases, at least for a

little while. Who can say they really desire or choose to be

devoured by a hungry snake or roaring loin.

 

Shakti roared inside me this morning making her presence

felt/known. I experienced a little tab bit of fear, but relaxed

and surrendered the best I could. It has been a long time since I've

heard that roaring lion and felt the electical sensations. The

roaring came from inside me this time than seemingly from without as

it has been in the past. The electical sensations were felt gentle

throughout my whole body sending bliss to my heart chakra, rather

than focused strong up my spine. I did sense a pressure up my spine

though and it is still there today. I think I need some watermelon.

 

Linda

 

 

, Igor Alphus

<Alphu-s wrote:

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> Cool post Chrism. Igor.

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> : : Wed, 7 Jan

2009 23:00:38 +0000 Moral

Choices

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> The choices we make can have an effect upon the way our

Kundaliniflow will express. If we make choices that are not in our

bestinterests, as judged by the Kundalini, the experience can be

harsh orwith varying degrees of difficulty. If we make choices that

aresupported by the Kundalini the experience can be gentle.Sometimes

we must learn from having pain. This is a character trait ofpeople

and it comes from an over emphasized need to maintain afamiliar

comfort level rather than having change come into thepersonal

equation.If you make choices to have certain phenomena not knowing

the fullramifications of the phenomena it may be a teaching for you

to learnmore information before committing to that choice. Having can

be verydifferent from wanting.In the west we do not have as much

ethical and validated experientialinformation of the Kundalini. We

have those who practice KundaliniYoga which isn't the same as having

an awakened Kundalini. We havepeople practicing Kundalini Reiki which

also isn't the same. We haveauthors writing about the Kundalini with

out ever having experiencedit. It can be difficult to discern the

truth of the subject in thisenvironment. Yet it can be done. It is a

process of discernment and aprocess of not allowing personal ego

wishes and desires of attention,power, or position to hold sway over

the decision making andexpressive process.The ramifications of

certain choices can be very long lasting.Explorations of certain

belief systems carry interactive phenomenathat can snare or trap a

person into the specific equations of thatsystem. Rituals, entities,

incantations, exaltation and subjugationcan have results that are not

pleasant and indeed are geared towardsthe expression of pain that can

be endured for many years. These canbe systems that are not moral as

we in the west understand morality tobe. These systems can actively

work to try and subvert the individual whois searching for phenomena

or exaltation or many of the ego forms ofdesire based conditions

associated with the Kundalini. Some of thesesystems are for the

subversion of the Kundalini awakened individual.Typically these do

nothing for the Kundalini they merely trap theperson into a

continuing loop of ego expression with pain. Forcingmore and more

karma to be collected for balancing in future existencesand slowing

down the evolutionary process. Sometimes this is a needed process.

There is no rush and it isn't arace. By slowing down we can learn

from the elements of our choicesand make determinations of where we

can improve from a soulperspective of our continuing journey.Morality

is a definite substantive expression within the Kundaliniexperience.

It can act as a compass for the individual with regards topersonal

positions of interaction among other people and withinthemselves.

Morality can steer a person clear of systems that aregenerative of

ego supported expressions of control typically overothers. Many

questions about the individual and the Kundalini can beanswered

through the fulcrum or the moral imperatives.We can learn about how

we seek and use power. Power over ourselves asdiscipline, or power

over others, power over the environment, power ofthe environment over

us, or the power to not attach to the idea ofpower. We can ask our

self where we are with regards to the choice ofpower inside of our

Kundalini and we can listen and feel the Kundalinirespond. We can

take that response and bring it into conscious expression.There is a

constant influx of moral choices to be made on a daily ifnot hourly

time frame. All of them will hold a guidance to be receivedor not. We

can choose this. We can choose to hear the moral guidanceor to ignore

it even if we hear it, or to not hear it at all. These choices can be

very difficult. But for those who can manage theintense personal

honesty that can be required by the Kundalini thepattern of choices

can become a guiding feature in the expression ofthe new divine body

being awakened within them. This is what I wouldsuggest.When we

embrace a morality that is guided by the Kundalini and not byour ego

will or by the society we live in we can begin to base all ofour

responses towards others on a paradigm of moral interaction thathas

more in common with the divine expressions emergence within usthan

that of the old familiar points of moral response we have come toknow

in our past interactive experiences. A new paradigm of

moralinteraction.Forgiveness is one aspect of this new moral

paradigm. Forgiveness canallow a person to detach from the idea of

revenge or vindictiveness orfrom the holding of a grudge from an

unsolicited attack by anotherperson. The feelings of revenge and its

many aspects are a form ofbondage that can trap us into expressions

of anger that can gravitateinto hatred. We can learn not to succumb

to these feelings of anger and toneutralize them at the start by

evoking forgiveness as quickly aspossible and for as many repeated

expressions of forgiveness as isneeded. Forgiveness is the key to

learning that we need not attach toanger or sorrow or rage or

revenge. Freedom is the result of theforgiveness process. Freedom

from attachment and from the karma thatcan come with attachment.

Tolerance is another moral choice of allowing a person to be as

theyare without judgment or inflicted negativity based upon that way

ofbeing. Even when those persons activities are hurtful and harmful

tothemselves. If they are hurtful or harmful to us and others and

areactively reaching out towards us in these ways we can protect our

selfand we can choose to keep a distance and this isn't incorrect as

wewill not always be in harmony with everyone and some distance can

be agood thing. We can choose not to go to the level of the

attacker.Truth will often defray an attacker of forward momentum if

they arecoming from a deceitful expression. Stating truth can be

difficult and it can seem harsh if it is a difficult truth to be

given but itcan be very helpful to all involved even if it may seem

that theperson isn't receiving it, on some level they are receiving

and it maybe the seed that is planted for a later harvest. This is an

aspect oflove. Compassion for another even when they are being

duplicitous ordeceitful can be given. Sometimes a harsher discourse

of service isneeded to help another gain a level of personal

understanding and wecan choose to not fear this type of

communication. Sometimes this typeof communication can be fairly

common in the west.Compassion for others is another moral choice. We

can have compassionfor another whom we can correctly interpret as

being in pain. We canhelp or come to their aid if it is asked for and

sometimes even if itisn't asked for as emergencies of life and limb

will preempt any kindof permission unless they are consciously asking

you not to help.Sometimes the pain of injury can be so intense that a

person will notbe able, through the pain, to give conscious

permissions.Kundalini will most often gravitate towards the loving

interactions.Most often this frequency and the many related

frequencies of theloving interaction will carry and attract the

Kundalini response. Whendiscussing love it is not the romantic

qualities that are beingspecifically discussed. Love comes in many

formats and the romance isonly one aspect of many regarding this

quality of expression.Tough love or love that is being given through

the actions of adiscipline sometimes harsh can be far more effective

and helpful thanthe application of love as expressed inside of

romance. Love offers usmany moral choices and it is to us to discern

how best to proceedsometimes in the space of a heartbeat.We have many

options to choose from in our expression of daily life.For the

Kundalini awakening it is helpful to choose to examine everysingle

response and reaction we have in our interactions with othersand our

self in order to learn how to sculpt the new divine body intothe

living expression of enlightenment. This will take some work andit

will take the ability to surrender. Surrender the will of the egoto

the Kundalini instruction. With practice it becomes as easy

asbreathing. -

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[Guest guest]

Thanks Chrism,

 

great words. I like these 'Surrender the will of the ego

to the Kundalini instruction. With practice it becomes as easy as

breathing'... thats my practice now..again and again, the freedom is in

letting go and making space for shakti to speak, and there is always a

voice

 

love

Bruce

[Guest guest]

Yes, this struck me, too. In the beginning I was excited to learn and

experience more, more, more. Then I had a dream of my kids racing up a

water tower. I yelled for them to stop, but they were too far away and

couldn't hear me. The water tower started to fall over. I woke before

it and the kids hit the ground. This scared me, and I took the dream

to be a warning that if I pushed too hard for 'certain phenomena' to

happen, it could turn out badly for my four kids (now aged 9-20). What

if their mother was seen speaking in tongues, for example, or

experiencing kiryas at a parent-teacher conference? I might be deemed

incompetent (by people who do not know/understand Kundalini) and have

my kids removed from my care (my husband died in 2000, so I was/am a

single mother). So I backed off considerably and now just go along

without any attempts to 'make things happen.'

 

Carolyn

 

'Beliefs are those things we hold to be true, and which are

instrumental in creating our actions and our experience of life.'

 

, " Linda "

<crazycats711 wrote:

>

> I second that! lots to munch on there.

>

> @@@ If you make choices to have certain phenomena not knowing the full

> ramifications of the phenomena it may be a teaching for you to learn

> more information before committing to that choice. Having can be very

> different from wanting.@@@

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Carolyn,

Water in dreams is all about emotions. I imagine if the water tower fell, all the waters would flood the area. The fear that you might harm your children, that they might be severely affected by the flood of emotions, makes a lot of sense. The emotions that were contained, were threatening to cause harm to your kids.

I have had to back off of certain things when my K flow affected my daughter (she just turned 4 recently). She does seem to have adapted well to my energy and only on occasion will cry out in her sleep when my energy is high.

Sarita

, "reikihands2004" <reikihands2004 wrote:>> Yes, this struck me, too. In the beginning I was excited to learn and > experience more, more, more. Then I had a dream of my kids racing up a > water tower. I yelled for them to stop, but they were too far away and > couldn't hear me. The water tower started to fall over. I woke before > it and the kids hit the ground. This scared me, and I took the dream > to be a warning that if I pushed too hard for 'certain phenomena' to > happen, it could turn out badly for my four kids (now aged 9-20). What > if their mother was seen speaking in tongues, for example, or > experiencing kiryas at a parent-teacher conference? I might be deemed > incompetent (by people who do not know/understand Kundalini) and have > my kids removed from my care (my husband died in 2000, so I was/am a > single mother). So I backed off considerably and now just go along > without any attempts to 'make things happen.'> > Carolyn> > 'Beliefs are those things we hold to be true, and which are > instrumental in creating our actions and our experience of life.'> > , "Linda" > crazycats711@ wrote:> >> > I second that! lots to munch on there. > > > > @@@ If you make choices to have certain phenomena not knowing the full> > ramifications of the phenomena it may be a teaching for you to learn> > more information before committing to that choice. Having can be very> > different from wanting.@@@> > > >>

[Guest guest]

Thanks, Sarita. I've had more 'water dreams' than you can shake a stick at! Bursting water pipes, flooding, overflowing sinks, bathtubs and toilets, water filling basement, rainstorms ...Carolyn'Beliefs are those things we hold to be true, and which are instrumental in creating our actions and our experience of life.'--- On Sat, 1/10/09, Sarita <sarita1969 wrote:

Sarita <sarita1969 Re: Moral Choices Date: Saturday, January 10, 2009, 5:06 PM

 

 

 

Hi Carolyn,

Water in dreams is all about emotions. I imagine if the water tower fell, all the waters would flood the area. The fear that you might harm your children, that they might be severely affected by the flood of emotions, makes a lot of sense. The emotions that were contained, were threatening to cause harm to your kids.

I have had to back off of certain things when my K flow affected my daughter (she just turned 4 recently). She does seem to have adapted well to my energy and only on occasion will cry out in her sleep when my energy is high.

Sarita

Kundalini-Awakening -Systems- 1 , "reikihands2004" <reikihands2004@ ...> wrote:>> Yes, this struck me, too. In the beginning I was excited to learn and > experience more, more, more. Then I had a dream of my kids racing up a > water tower. I yelled for them to stop, but they were too far away and > couldn't hear me. The water tower started to fall over. I woke before > it and the kids hit the ground. This scared me, and I took the dream > to be a warning that if I pushed too hard for 'certain phenomena' to > happen, it could turn out badly for my four kids (now aged 9-20). What > if their mother was seen speaking in tongues, for example, or > experiencing kiryas at a parent-teacher conference? I might be deemed > incompetent (by people who do not know/understand Kundalini) and have > my kids removed from my care (my husband died in

2000, so I was/am a > single mother). So I backed off considerably and now just go along > without any attempts to 'make things happen.'> > Carolyn> > 'Beliefs are those things we hold to be true, and which are > instrumental in creating our actions and our experience of life.'> > Kundalini-Awakening -Systems- 1 , "Linda" > crazycats711@ wrote:> >> > I second that! lots to munch on there. > > > > @@@ If you make choices to have certain phenomena not knowing the full> > ramifications of the phenomena it may be a teaching for you to learn> > more information before committing to that choice. Having can be very> > different from wanting.@@@> > > >>

[Guest guest]

Hi Carolyn,

You can tell a lot about your current or upcoming emotional state by these dreams. If the water is calm and clear then it is smooth sailing ahead. Burst pipes, overflowing, storms, dirty water, rough water - are all indicators of overwhelming emotion or outbursts. Not necessarily forgone conclusions either, sometimes they can help us avoid upset if we are aware we may soon have an emotional situation.

Sarita

, ReikiHands2004 <reikihands2004 wrote:>> Thanks, Sarita. I've had more 'water dreams' than you can shake a stick at! Bursting water pipes, flooding, overflowing sinks, bathtubs and toilets, water filling basement, rainstorms ...> > Carolyn> > 'Beliefs are those things we hold to be true, and which are instrumental in creating our actions and our experience of life.'