Guest guest Posted January 24, 2009 Report Share Posted January 24, 2009 Three years ago or so I had an OBE. I woke up from sleeping into an obe and saw an entity come out of my closet. It was on the other side of my bed, walked towards the end of my bed and for some reason I expected it just to keep walking and go through the wall, out of the 2nd story room. But it went round the end of my bed and came up to me and it was shaped like the old " gumby " cartoon, skinny and tall, no arms. It bent down to me and I knew it wanted to attach and get my energy. I freaked and slammed back into my body, jolting me awake. Since then I have worried that this thing may be sucking energy out of me and I can't see it or stop it. I have tried sending love to it and I have tried putting glowing white light around myself, but I don't know if anything has had any affect. Any comments or suggestions? - Pat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 25, 2009 Report Share Posted January 25, 2009 Blessings, love and light to you - Pat , " L K " <spacegypsie wrote: > > Thank you Unis. > Your support means alot. > > I hold no or very little blame, even though I can chart what were likely > precursors to what happened to me. > I believe that no one intented me any harm, even if harm came to me from > contact or premature agreements with certain people. > > I think that all intentions were likely good, or at least they were not > intending to harm me, and my intention was simply/clearly to grow and heal > and become a better healer. > > Accidents happen. > > So I really hold no blame or anger toward anyone including myself for where > I am. > Just fear I won't get back to one piece again...and irritation and > impatience. > > But what does not kill us, makes us stronger... > > This has shown me that we are all alot stronger than we think, not just me. > If I can go through a major hell like this and still be here intact, I KNOW > humans are strong, and they can get through their worst fears. I am > learning how strong we are. > > I am greatful for the maturation and the lessons I have learned from > this...especially the importance of self-care in selecting healers or > prematurally agreeing to trainings, or putting safety and thoughtfulness > first when it comes to psychic openings. Not having opened psychically and > grown so quickly in this life, I know that I had naivety/innocence around > alot, and that is partly what led to this hell walk even being permitted in > my life. > > So live and learn. > > I hope to be able to give back for all the support I have received. > > Thanks for your love and support, > It makes a difference, > > Wishing you great peace, > Laura > > > > On 10/13/07, Unis Sonn <unis.sonn wrote: > > > > Hello, Laura, > > It does seem like whatever has happened to you is related to the practice > > with this shaman/kundalini teacher. It is very unfortunate that there > > people > > out there who may not even be so ill-intending, as they are ignorant. Such > > approach could sure cause a lot of harm to a person. > > I am glad that it seems you have gone a long way from the very first post > > you did on the other forum. You have also proven to be very strong, which > > is > > an inspiration.. > > As I said before, you have our full support and love. > > Unis > > > > On 10/12/07, L K <spacegypsie <spacegypsie%40gmail.com>> wrote: > > > > > > Hi Unis, > > > > > > That is a good question. Retrospectively, I remember that I was becoming > > > more " sensitive " all year in 2006, but did not notice it much. I knew I > > > was > > > growing and opening spiritually, especially through my work as a somatic > > > therapist. This sensitivity deepened, through my deepening yoga and > > qigong > > > practices. > > > > > > Then in January, I came into an agreement to train with a > > > healer/shaman/kundalini teacher... > > > I did not exactly know what I was getting into, and all I did was > > > agree, with the intention of deepening my healer work over time. > > > > > > Within 2 weeks of that agreement, my nervous system started to become a > > > " thought antennae " and I had a much higher level of astral contact. I > > > wasn't scared of it per se. > > > > > > Then overnight, it went from a functional accelerated " opening " to a > > > disability where I woke up living in " 2 dimensions at once " and being > > > flooded with astral " realities " . > > > > > > Despite my sensitivity and spiritual awareness, honestly I had no real > > > clue > > > what or where or how the " astral " really was. I did not ever expect to > > > encounter " lower consciousness " or " lower astral " minds. I was > > spiritually > > > mature in many ways, but not " astral " or " entity " mature. > > > > > > It wasn't something I could shut down or regulate the contact. It was > > more > > > like being dropped on an alien planet and trying to get back to earth. > > > There were suddenly no mental or physical limits, and these beings live > > > outside of time and space, they were suddenly interacting with a human > > > with > > > a body. > > > > > > I don't really understand why these entities or astral realities, as > > > opposed > > > to other ones, why these were drawn to me or opened to me or invaded me. > > > > > > I do think it was my consent to train with that healer that caused the > > > abrupt " opening " ...desite becoming more sensitive the previous year. I > > > have > > > had life traumas, but I was at a point of strength in my self in > > January, > > > and felt like I was growing, healing and awakening. > > > > > > I still feel like I am, but it is one hell of a journey. > > > > > > Thanks for asking. > > > Peace, > > > Laura > > > > > > On 10/11/07, Unis Sonn <unis.sonn <unis.sonn%40gmail.com> < > > unis.sonn%40gmail.com>> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Laura, > > > > As you know, you have all of our love and support. I would like to ask > > > > you, > > > > how did it start for you? Was it just completely unexpected, all of a > > > > sudden, or was it following some trauma in your life, or, perhaps, > > some > > > > psychic practices you were working with? > > > > Hugs, > > > > U > > > > > > > > On 10/11/07, L K <spacegypsie <spacegypsie%40gmail.com><spacegypsie% > > 40gmail.com><spacegypsie% > > > 40gmail.com>> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Hi & List, > > > > > > > > > > I am trying to take you email to heart, _and_ it is really hard to > > > > ignore > > > > > entities that have somehow attached to my nervous system with > > geniune > > > > > psychopathic intention, i.e. actively trying to kill me and keep me > > > > > physically in states of unmanageable discomfort for no apparent > > > reason. > > > > > > > > > > They succeed. It really is stupid and a waste of my life energy. > > > > > I don't have cancer, I am not sick. > > > > > > > > > > Considering how clean and supportive I am toward myself, there is no > > > > > reason > > > > > for me to be in discomfort unless I get the flu or break a leg. > > > > > > > > > > I am feeling a little lost at this point. I was experiencing a > > > > remittance > > > > > or a lessening of the attacks, and level of attack, but not of their > > > use > > > > > of > > > > > my nervous system as their radio station or toy. I still don't go > > for > > > > more > > > > > than a few seconds without hearing them and feeling them. > > > > > > > > > > This is so unbelievable compared to the quiet solo mind and body i > > had > > > > > before, I don't expect anyone to really get it. > > > > > > > > > > It has in many ways improved, as I have worked so hard to stay in > > the > > > > > witness, stay in surrendur, keep moving from fear/experience of > > > invasion > > > > > to > > > > > prayer and centeredness in my right to be here without being > > attacked > > > > and > > > > > invaded by entities. I know I have gotten better at it. > > > > > > > > > > I have surrendured many times to being murdered. > > > > > I do feel like I have lost alot of fear around death. > > > > > I can be on both sides of most coins...and then occupy the place of > > > > > compassionate witness. > > > > > > > > > > However, I haven't seen my positive growth mirrored much in the > > > entities > > > > > moving away, detaching, or leaving me alone. > > > > > They have created some kind of astral " reality " around my > > > > mind/body/life. > > > > > It seems like they are pretty entrenched in staying and harming. > > > > > > > > > > I know my life here is not for some kind of endurance test set up by > > > > lower > > > > > consciousness astral entities for no good reason. This knowing does > > > not > > > > > seem to shift it away. > > > > > > > > > > I am genuinely experiencing being abused, physically, mentally, > > > > > emotionally, > > > > > and sexually... > > > > > I have almost entirely lost my sex drive. > > > > > I don't and didn't identify as " abused " or " victim " , but I do love > > > > myself > > > > > and don't want these abusive consciousnesses with me/within > > me/around > > > > me. > > > > > > > > > > I know I deserve peace within... > > > > > I have already had it in this life, so I know it, I have embodied > > it, > > > > and > > > > > I > > > > > know it is my birthright. > > > > > I just don't know how to get it back. > > > > > > > > > > How have I not succeeded in " clearing them away " , despite how > > > > pro-active, > > > > > self-loving, patient, faithful, and practiced I have been? > > > > > > > > > > I do feel like I have gotten past the point my fear is drawing this > > to > > > > me, > > > > > I > > > > > have strongly occupied faith in both impermanence, as well as > > > reclaimed > > > > my > > > > > right to just be in my body as I am in the moment (this is really > > hard > > > > > sometimes with the amount of invasion). > > > > > > > > > > How can I accomplish ignoring them/clearing them? > > > > > I guess I am getting a little desperate for change again. > > > > > This is a physical and mental endurance test. > > > > > > > > > > Death honestly would have been much easier than this. I can now say > > > that > > > > I > > > > > look forward to the bardos. > > > > > But I would prefer to look forward to my body and mind in life in > > > peace > > > > > without interference and psychopathic astral minds and energies. > > > > > > > > > > I am not interested in the astral. > > > > > > > > > > This has to be impermanent because it is just not a quality of life > > > and > > > > I > > > > > don't have a disease, and I am here to love and be loved and don't > > > have > > > > a > > > > > problem accepting that. > > > > > > > > > > That gives me faith, but it also makes me completely lost with what > > to > > > > do > > > > > to > > > > > shift it so I can enter the next level of my being. > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for any feedback, > > > > > Laura > > > > > > > > > > On 10/9/07, chrism < <%40><% > > 40><% > > > 40><% > > > > 40>> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Entities are not to be frightened of. They are just different > > forms > > > > > > of consciousness far less powerful than a person in a body. Fear > > of > > > > > > them and a mistaken belief that they have more abiility than they > > > > > > actually do is what can attract as do most of the " ways " to scare > > > > > > them off. > > > > > > > > > > > > This should be clear to you as you " clear them away " and then they > > > > > > return. We live in a populated intersected dimension. The astral > > > > > > blends into the physical. When we are able to sense or see them it > > > > > > means that we are coming out of limitation. There is no reason to > > > > > > fear. No more so than you would fear a new kind of bug on your > > > > > > driveway. > > > > > > > > > > > > OK bad analogy. lol > > > > > > > > > > > > Those who strive to " get rid " of entities will only serve to > > attract > > > > > > them. They are a fact of this multiverse and the only attention > > > > > > needed is to know this and ignore them. Yes they will make noise, > > > > > > yes they will appear in ways that are startling thats the modus > > > > > > operendei. This is how they can assure your attention and fear. > > > > > > > > > > > > Dont buy into this! They are as dangerous as a falling leaf! > > Better > > > > > > to control your fears and get beyond this brief interlude of fear > > > > > > for the unknown. - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 19, 2009 Report Share Posted July 19, 2009 Chrism - My husband had a relative that had trouble getting along with other people. She never married and lived with her mother til her mother died, then lived alone. My husband took extra care to call her at Christmas and at other times, and she was very grateful for the friendship. Shortly after learning that she had past on I was in the shower and I felt this tremendous presence of what I felt was her spirit swooping around me in a kind of angry way. It happened 2 different times and each time I prayed to her that she would find the light and peace and joy and told her how much my husband had cared about her. I admit that she was difficult to like, but I cared for her too. This experience made me wonder if there is something about water, or moving water as in a shower that might make it easier for someone to communicate to you? Thanks so much for the videos. Pat , " chrism " <> wrote: > > Not everyone " must " have this aspect expressing inside of the Kundalini but some will. For those who do have this do not worry there is an end time to these interactions. If not completly then certainly a softening of the phenomena. This is as much as anything a fear test. > > As the eyelids are removed and " other " consciousness can be viewed and interacted with this gate will be one that will eventually come into balance regardless of how scary or unusual it feels. This will occur within a time frame that is appropriate for the individual. > > So as long as you need to be trained not to fear and not to take instruction from entities then you will continue to take this class. Only when you are able to come out from under the shock and awe of the experience can we begin to mature our way through this expression. > > Similar to the Kriyas and the OBE and the many other Kundalini phenomena the entity stage is another learning opportunity and not to be feared even though that does occur in most cases. - blessings all. - chrism > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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