about reiki

[Guest guest]

Hi Aress,

 

Thanks for sharing your lovely story. Personally, I don't think that

kundalini reiki or kundalini proper are the same thing. For one, I am

still amazed at how reiki attunements work each and every time.

Shaktipat, however, may or may not produce results (it all depends on

who gives it, and--most importantly--on who receives it). Also, the

official purpose of reiki is healing. A kundalini awakening may bring

about healing skills, but its scope and purpose go WAY, WAY beyond the

laying-on of hands. The experience is very different, too. If you have

ever had your nervous system fried by a K surge, you'll know what I

mean, LOL!

 

By the same token, though, I think there is a continuity between reiki

and kundalini. My own activation happened spontaneously a few days

after I received a reiki attunement at the hands of a very sweet, but

also 100% kundalini-free reiki master. I think what happened is that

he involuntarily removed some blockages, which, in turn, allowed the K

to rise on her own. To me, the difference between reiki and kundalini

is mostly a matter of the magnitude and intensity of the energy, which

in turn depends on the level of purification of the nadis.

 

And then, of course there is the issue of the direction of the flow:

top down for reiki, bottom up for kundalini. This is the difference

between Shiva and Sakti, but at the end of the day aren't Shiva and

Shakti one and the same? I don't know, I don't really have an answer

for this one.

 

The marketing around reiki is also something that is worth mentioning:

when something is done for monetary purposes, branding becomes

inevitable, and so are claims that one specific brand is different (or

better) than others. This is not to disparage those who charge for

their attunements (after all, their time is as valuable as that of any

other professional). It's just a comment on the sectarianism that is

embedded in many (though certainly not all) reiki subcultures.

 

A caveat: I probably don't know what I am talking about, and I might

be just jumping to ridiculously wrong conclusions on the basis of

personal interpretations of something that is way beyond human grasp.

 

Peace,

 

Sel

[Guest guest]

I, too, had never heard of Kundalini Reiki until I joined this list and did not grasp the on-going conversation. I was trained, have read and believe that one of the beauties of Reiki energy is that no one can be harmed by it. The practitioner cannot take on a client's energy and vice versa. The practitioner is merely the conduit for the life force/Reiki energy, and only to the extent that the client will receive it. (I received my first attunement in 2004; 2nd & 3rd in 2005.)

 

Carolyn'Beliefs are those things we hold to be true, and which are instrumental in creating our actions and our experience of life.' Bill Harris--- On Fri, 1/30/09, aressarising <allys_aunty wrote:

 

 

 

I'm somewhat confused reading the kundalini reiki stuff so wanted to post. I apologize if this is misplaced or off topic.I don't actually know what Kundalini reiki is ...aress__

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[Guest guest]

Hello Aress,

Thank you for your honest and well expressed post. I too

had written an eight hundred word response to it covering many areas

and even backed it up on " word " only to have the computer suddenly

shut down and I lossed it all. So I am going to maybe try again later.

I will try to explain in a shortened response how and what the

differences are as I see them between Kundalini and all of the reiki

techniques. I will also express that I do not intend in any way to

devalue the experiences people have had with reiki. My fingers are

tired. - blessings! - chrism

 

 

, " aressarising "

<allys_aunty wrote:

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> I'm somewhat confused reading the kundalini reiki stuff

[Guest guest]

Chrism

I sometimes wonder if there is a good reason why messages that a lot of work goes into suddenly disappears.

 

In the case that,suddenly bringing energies through channels and then into nadis without the adequate preparation might be dangerous for some.

 

It might be that reiki is about preparing the nadis for kundalini expansion in that is suppose to espouse good will.

 

I have been attuned to kundalini reiki though have not really used it. When I was attuned I did not take it so serious I took the download in a slumped position and received a headache that was felt in the beginning at the back of the neck, The person attuning me was quite annoyed with me when I told her I had a headache and why. The manual said all I had to do to use it was to think in the mind kundalini reiki and the energy would flow. I couldnt really see the point as the energy in most cases flows any way.

 

The source of kundalini energy is more to do with my wonderings, does it come from above or does it come from below?

For me I imagine that it comes from above

John

 

 

 

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Saturday, January 31, 2009 8:59 AM

Re: about reiki

 

 

Hello Aress,Thank you for your honest and well expressed post. I toohad written an eight hundred word response to it covering many areasand even backed it up on "word" only to have the computer suddenlyshut down and I lossed it all. So I am going to maybe try again later.I will try to explain in a shortened response how and what thedifferences are as I see them between Kundalini and all of the reikitechniques. I will also express that I do not intend in any way todevalue the experiences people have had with reiki. My fingers aretired. - blessings! - chrism , "aressarising"<allys_aunty wrote:>> I'm somewhat confused reading the kundalini reiki stuff

[Guest guest]

I was trained, have read and believe that one of the beauties of

Reiki energy is that no one can be harmed by it. The practitioner

cannot take on a client's energy and vice versa. The practitioner is

merely the conduit for the life force/Reiki energy, and only to the

extent that the client will receive it.

 

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I agree, Carolyn. I have been a Reiki 'master' for a number of years

and have had only very positive experiences.

 

I think the problem these days is that traditional Usui Reiki has been

lumped in with all the other crazy so called 'reiki' systems that have

been invented in the past few years. Obviously these 'healers' figure

using the word reiki gives them credibility. Some of the names of

these 'reiki's' would be laughable if vulnerable people were not being

conned into spending big money on them.

 

What next, Santa Reiki or Easter Bunny Reiki! LOL.

 

Have a great day

 

Martin

[Guest guest]

There is a big difference between Kundalini Reiki and Usui and most

other methods of Reiki. I have been attuned to both healing methods

and have passed on attunements for both. Each time I did the

attunement freely, but if they wanted a printed manual and printed

certificate then they had to pay for those. It takes time, a lot of

ink and good quality paper for cert/diploma.

 

I have always preferred the Kundalini Reiki energies which work from

the base chakra 'upwards'. Usui Reiki and most of the others work on

moving the energy from the crown chakras 'down' the body. Kundalini

Reiki is given in 3 separate attunements in order for the energy to

rise slowly up the body, clearing the chakras as it rises.

 

After my first Shaktipat here, and all the sensations it bought to my

body and the changes in my mind set, I can say that this is the REAL

Kundalini Awakening. I cannot say for certain whether Kun. Reiki

first paved the way for this or not, I just know that there is a big

difference in the feel of the two energies.

 

After conversations with over this subject I can understand

why he advises caution when using his methods along with those of

Reiki. If we were using any other hands on or distant healing method

along with Kundalini healing as teaches it, I am sure his

cautions for us would be the same.

 

I feel sure that must think " Oh, no, not again " , whenever he

sees this subject being bought up, as a quick look at the archives

shows he has been through this discussion before. I think what we are

really asking is

 

" Chrism, Can we do any form of Reiki while on your Kundalini path? "

 

When he gives us an answer it will then be up to us what we choose to

do. Remembering that we cannot complain if anything goes wrong.

 

Blessings, Skydancer x

 

, " chrism "

<> wrote:

>

> Hello Aress,

> Thank you for your honest and well expressed post. I too

> had written an eight hundred word response to it covering many areas

> and even backed it up on " word " only to have the computer suddenly

> shut down and I lossed it all. So I am going to maybe try again

later.

> I will try to explain in a shortened response how and what the

> differences are as I see them between Kundalini and all of the reiki

> techniques. I will also express that I do not intend in any way to

> devalue the experiences people have had with reiki. My fingers are

> tired. - blessings! - chrism

>

>

> , " aressarising "

> <allys_aunty@> wrote:

> >

> > I'm somewhat confused reading the kundalini reiki stuff

>

[Guest guest]

Dear chrism,

 

I never intended to assign you a term paper. :-O

 

And I do appreciate all the work, words and thought that went into the

vanishing response. Thank you, truly, for that.

 

My question primarily (though, I got a bit caught up in my post) was

originally going to be about energy coming from above and/or below. The

more connected I am the more likely for it to feel as if it's coming

from both. Like a shaft clear through.

 

I did not/do not feel you were/are devalueing reiki. I understand from

experience the necessity to proceed with caution and my best discernment

when mixing modalities (for lack of better word). Early on I went to a

reiki practice session and the teacher decided to teach and do something

else, entirely. I was newly attuned and just wanted to try my new reiki

out. I had an extreme adverse reaction. I learned many lessons right

there. I learned to listen much more closely to the wisdom coming in. I

learned what it felt like if I didn't stay in my truth. I also learned

to be more discerning about what I will accept or reject and the

consequences thereof. I certainly can't speak for anyone else but the

fewer things I do at once the less chance for difficulties. Were I to

some day be in a place to accept (is accept the right word?) Shaktipat

it would behoove me to do that and that alone.

 

Ok, I went too long, again. I tend to write until I think I said what I

meant. Perhaps not the most efficient method, lol. Thank you for saying

I expressed myself well!

 

Again, thank you and please rest those tired fingers and I'll rest mine

as well.

 

blessings back at you,

aress

 

 

 

 

 

, " chrism "

<> wrote:

>

> Hello Aress,

> Thank you for your honest and well expressed post. I too

> had written an eight hundred word response to it covering many areas

> and even backed it up on " word " only to have the computer suddenly

> shut down and I lossed it all. So I am going to maybe try again later.

> I will try to explain in a shortened response how and what the

> differences are as I see them between Kundalini and all of the reiki

> techniques. I will also express that I do not intend in any way to

> devalue the experiences people have had with reiki. My fingers are

> tired. - blessings! - chrism

>

>

> , " aressarising "

> allys_aunty@ wrote:

> >

> > I'm somewhat confused reading the kundalini reiki stuff

>

[Guest guest]

Thank you each and every one for your responses. They are truly

appreciated.

 

I cannot keep up enough to respond to them all, though, I would like to.

(heh, I don't even know how to type).

I had no intention of opening a can of worms with my post. I do feel an

affinity to and reverence for reiki as well as the other forms of

service we do on our paths.

 

I am grateful to be here and send you all love and light,

aress