hypnosis

[Guest guest]

No Craig.

I don't believe it is, yoga indri is though as you are the one commanding control.

The main problem with hypnosis is that you give yourself over to someone else's control, Once they get in they may be able to get back in as they wish. If you allow this to happen you better be able to trust this person completely that he/she has no fear, or any type of unstable mind that may influence you. Battered wife syndrome is also related, Sometimes children are effected as well.

It is my thoughts on the matter

 

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kundaflame

Wednesday, February 04, 2009 8:53 AM

hypnosis

 

 

I'm getting so tired of these ups and downs. It seems like the fartherup the mountain a reach, the further I fall down. I just can't take itanymore. In the back of my mind there's always this one fear, grippingme...would hypnosis be a viable tool to help me? I feel like this fearshouldn't even belong to me but is so deeply ingrained in me it'sbeyond my ability to go beyond, if that makes sense. I wanted deathearlier, although I would never commit suicide, but I was finallyreleased to some extent and now I just feel totally depleted,exhausted, this is just awful. This one fear is like a leash that myego uses anytime I stray to far, I just don't know what to do anymore,it feels too strong... so for just the purposes of undoing this fear,is hypnosis compatible with K or is it just another "shortcut" thatleads one nowhere or creates more problems?thankscraig

[Guest guest]

Hypnosis in not about others controlling you. It is about others

offering you suggestions, " hypnotic suggestions " , that you accept or

reject. However in trance you are more likely to accept the

suggestions.

 

The basic advice with K is to surrender to it, trust it, let it lead

you where it will and trust that it is doing what is good, right and

needed…it is the inner Guru.

 

If hypnosis can help you to surrender more deeply and stop

resisting….if resisting is causing you to suffer….then it is good.

But is you want to use hypnosis to stop K Shakti from doing her thing

then you are trying to interfere with the K process, that may not be

good.

 

Hypnotic suggestions such as;

Everything is perfect right now, even if your ego does not

like it

You life is perfect even if your ego does not like it

Kundalini is helping you through this

Trust your process…it leads to enlightenment

Accept and surrender to your fear and transcend it…now

 

(yes, I practice hypnosis)

 

My advise is to surrender to the wisdom of Kundalini Shakti. Realize

that what is happening is serving your spiritual growth perfectly.

And if you just hang in there and let it be you will be carried by K

shakti to a better place.

 

Perhaps Chrisim can offer you more precise advice on how to lessen

your pain

 

rich

[Guest guest]

Hi Craig,

I really don't know anything about hypnosis nor do I have the perfect answer for you. My intuition says that you have to work through this fear, that it can't be abolished from a source outside of yourself.

What is this fear? What do you fear will happen? Perhaps setting some time aside to sit with yourself, dig deep and explore what you fear. I can't pretend to know what your situation is, but I know for myself that when I explore my worst fear it isn't nearly as bad as I have blown it up to be, but when I avoid facing something it looms over me.

You are so far up the mountain, is there really a question of going back down at this point? I wish you luck working through this.

Hugs,

Sarita

, "kundaflame" <kundaflame wrote:>> I'm getting so tired of these ups and downs. It seems like the farther> up the mountain a reach, the further I fall down. I just can't take it> anymore. In the back of my mind there's always this one fear, gripping> me...would hypnosis be a viable tool to help me? I feel like this fear> shouldn't even belong to me but is so deeply ingrained in me it's> beyond my ability to go beyond, if that makes sense. I wanted death> earlier, although I would never commit suicide, but I was finally> released to some extent and now I just feel totally depleted,> exhausted, this is just awful. This one fear is like a leash that my> ego uses anytime I stray to far, I just don't know what to do anymore,> it feels too strong... so for just the purposes of undoing this fear,> is hypnosis compatible with K or is it just another "shortcut" that> leads one nowhere or creates more problems?> > thanks> craig>

[Guest guest]

Dear Craig,I know it seems difficult, but this fear inside can be reached, the journey may be dark and hard at times but you will achieve it eventually. I really cannot comment on hypnosis for you, but I do know that these hard periods are worth it and will lead you to the sunshine on top of the mountain eventually.Keep on praying and releasing, ask Shakti to guide you and trust.Love is the opposite of fear so focus on building up your love and joy, take it easy and remember that anything worth doing takes time and hard work.Life times of fear are hard to release, but I know that you know how, just look within..When I have had moments of fear dragging on I asked myself "why?" and I just decided to stop focusing on negativity and focus on loving God, loving people, loving myself and spending time with nature, giving thanks for

EVERYTHING and pondering how amazing and miraculous life really is. I make love to life now everyday and its beautiful, but it wasnt always like that. Keep on Craig.Much love and blessingselektra x x x

[Guest guest]

Hi Craig,

 

i domt know about hypnosis, but I do know about the darkness, the

fear and the exhuastion. As tough as it seems, try and let whatevr

happens be ok, and know that you dont have to do anything. Just bring

awareness to what is arising. I know it is tough to do, but

eventually it will level out. If you can, just notice the inner

recoil away from your experience, and let that be okay, and just keep

on returning to the feeling, no matter how bad. Deep fears have to be

bought into awarness before being surrendered and released, and that

is painful and energetically challenging for many reasons.

 

I find a useful practice is to continually, in my mind, keep

saying, 'Lord, I surrender this fear to you'. (if you can can accept

that a higher self exists). Then try and let it be. Eventually you

will reach the other side.

 

I had many waves of cleansing and each one was exhausting and tough.

Just have faith that one day it will all be okay.

 

love

Bruce

 

, " kundaflame "

<kundaflame wrote:

>

> I'm getting so tired of these ups and downs. It seems like the

farther

> up the mountain a reach, the further I fall down. I just can't take

it

> anymore. In the back of my mind there's always this one fear,

gripping

> me...would hypnosis be a viable tool to help me? I feel like this

fear

> shouldn't even belong to me but is so deeply ingrained in me it's

> beyond my ability to go beyond, if that makes sense. I wanted death

> earlier, although I would never commit suicide, but I was finally

> released to some extent and now I just feel totally depleted,

> exhausted, this is just awful. This one fear is like a leash that my

> ego uses anytime I stray to far, I just don't know what to do

anymore,

> it feels too strong... so for just the purposes of undoing this

fear,

> is hypnosis compatible with K or is it just another " shortcut " that

> leads one nowhere or creates more problems?

>

> thanks

> craig

>

[Guest guest]

thanks all, I really appreciate your comments. Last night, I think I

was finally made aware of possibly why this is taking place. I hope

yall don't mind me getting really personal. My fear is a fear of

public speaking and here's what returned to my awareness:

Around 3rd grade (I was 8 or 9 years old) I was an unruly kid. I was

outgoing, the class clown, had a lot of energy. I had not a care in

the world. I was alive and joyful, and had a lot of energy. So

instead of working with my temperament, my 3rd grade teacher suggested

to my mom that I take Cylert. I took it everyday up until around 7th

grade (I was 12 or 13). Every single day that I took that pill, I had

a splitting headache. Then I became really ashamed of who I was (I

wasn't aware of this at the time). I started wanting to be someone

else, anyone other than me. I became very self-conscious. I felt very

awkward with the whole communication process. I literally lost my

voice. But at least I couldn't act up, it's real hard to when you feel

like crap every single day. During my formative years, I was robbed. I

was robbed of life, literally, I no longer felt any joy, no longer

felt good about being me, began to feel like I was a waste of space. I

became a social recluse, extremely fearful. My still developing ego

was robbed of a chance at a healthy development. I went through 2

major depressions before I even made it to my teens. When I stopped

taking Cylert I was the total opposite of who I had been for the first

9 years of my life, my psyche has not fully recovered from this. The

color had been taking away from my consciousness and was replaced with

gray. This has been the background color of most of my experiences

ever since, with brief moments of seeing such beautiful color I

couldn't speak.

So, now I guess I do run from the " monster " . My motivating decision

maker with jobs/classes is " will I have to speak? " I have faced this

many times in highschool by giving many presentations but the fear

only grew and got worse. The best it did was to abate this fear but it

still continued to grow. I would have a huge dark cloud hanging over

me for week before I'd have to give a presentation.

But I realize that if this had not happened, there's a chance I

wouldn't have been ready to receive the Kundalini, nor would I had

suffered enough to bring me to spiritual teachings. But even so, how

do I finally heal from this and reclaim my power that feels like it

was literally stripped from me? It's never really made sense to me why

this fear is even here, but this has shed a little light on it.

I just saw in one of Anodea Judith's book that the 5th chakra's

developmental stage is from 7 to 12 years of age. I know it's probably

not set in stone but seems too big of a coincidence to brush it off.

My biggest fears come from the communication process.

I also don't know what this means but lately my throat chakra has been

opening and I notice that it feels like I'm wearing an energetic

necklace.

Well thanks for listening if you've made it this far, sorry for such a

long message.

craig

 

 

, " bruce_oom "

<bruce_oom wrote:

>

> Hi Craig,

>

> i domt know about hypnosis, but I do know about the darkness, the

> fear and the exhuastion. As tough as it seems, try and let whatevr

> happens be ok, and know that you dont have to do anything. Just bring

> awareness to what is arising. I know it is tough to do, but

> eventually it will level out. If you can, just notice the inner

> recoil away from your experience, and let that be okay, and just keep

> on returning to the feeling, no matter how bad. Deep fears have to be

> bought into awarness before being surrendered and released, and that

> is painful and energetically challenging for many reasons.

>

> I find a useful practice is to continually, in my mind, keep

> saying, 'Lord, I surrender this fear to you'. (if you can can accept

> that a higher self exists). Then try and let it be. Eventually you

> will reach the other side.

>

> I had many waves of cleansing and each one was exhausting and tough.

> Just have faith that one day it will all be okay.

>

> love

> Bruce

>

> , " kundaflame "

> <kundaflame@> wrote:

> >

> > I'm getting so tired of these ups and downs. It seems like the

> farther

> > up the mountain a reach, the further I fall down. I just can't take

> it

> > anymore. In the back of my mind there's always this one fear,

> gripping

> > me...would hypnosis be a viable tool to help me? I feel like this

> fear

> > shouldn't even belong to me but is so deeply ingrained in me it's

> > beyond my ability to go beyond, if that makes sense. I wanted death

> > earlier, although I would never commit suicide, but I was finally

> > released to some extent and now I just feel totally depleted,

> > exhausted, this is just awful. This one fear is like a leash that my

> > ego uses anytime I stray to far, I just don't know what to do

> anymore,

> > it feels too strong... so for just the purposes of undoing this

> fear,

> > is hypnosis compatible with K or is it just another " shortcut " that

> > leads one nowhere or creates more problems?

> >

> > thanks

> > craig

> >

>

[Guest guest]

hey, I saw this just browsing around and was curious what everybody

thought. Has anyone heard of the Lefkoe method? I was wondering if

this is legit. I put the link to the website below and once you click

on it, the first video with the lady, and the third video titled: " why

did I wait this long...? Why didn't I do this sooner? " both describe

my experience of this fear, and my hopes of overcoming it. Just

hearing that people have actually overcame it and not just covered it

up with ego really gives me hope. what are your thoughts? Does anyone

know of someone who has tried this?

 

http://www.speakingwithoutfear.com/index-frumi-video.html?gclid=COSfoc6pw5gCFQ-b\

nAod8Hc_1w

 

thanks, in the meantime I'm practicing as much as possible to

surrender this to my higher self, and trusting that one day this fear

will be no more, and focusing on love and gratitude. I guess it's

really hard with a shadow self whispering things in my ear, lol.

craig

 

 

 

, " kundaflame "

<kundaflame wrote:

>

> thanks all, I really appreciate your comments. Last night, I think I

> was finally made aware of possibly why this is taking place. I hope

> yall don't mind me getting really personal. My fear is a fear of

> public speaking and here's what returned to my awareness:

> Around 3rd grade (I was 8 or 9 years old) I was an unruly kid. I was

> outgoing, the class clown, had a lot of energy. I had not a care in

> the world. I was alive and joyful, and had a lot of energy. So

> instead of working with my temperament, my 3rd grade teacher suggested

> to my mom that I take Cylert. I took it everyday up until around 7th

> grade (I was 12 or 13). Every single day that I took that pill, I had

> a splitting headache. Then I became really ashamed of who I was (I

> wasn't aware of this at the time). I started wanting to be someone

> else, anyone other than me. I became very self-conscious. I felt very

> awkward with the whole communication process. I literally lost my

> voice. But at least I couldn't act up, it's real hard to when you feel

> like crap every single day. During my formative years, I was robbed. I

> was robbed of life, literally, I no longer felt any joy, no longer

> felt good about being me, began to feel like I was a waste of space. I

> became a social recluse, extremely fearful. My still developing ego

> was robbed of a chance at a healthy development. I went through 2

> major depressions before I even made it to my teens. When I stopped

> taking Cylert I was the total opposite of who I had been for the first

> 9 years of my life, my psyche has not fully recovered from this. The

> color had been taking away from my consciousness and was replaced with

> gray. This has been the background color of most of my experiences

> ever since, with brief moments of seeing such beautiful color I

> couldn't speak.

> So, now I guess I do run from the " monster " . My motivating decision

> maker with jobs/classes is " will I have to speak? " I have faced this

> many times in highschool by giving many presentations but the fear

> only grew and got worse. The best it did was to abate this fear but it

> still continued to grow. I would have a huge dark cloud hanging over

> me for week before I'd have to give a presentation.

> But I realize that if this had not happened, there's a chance I

> wouldn't have been ready to receive the Kundalini, nor would I had

> suffered enough to bring me to spiritual teachings. But even so, how

> do I finally heal from this and reclaim my power that feels like it

> was literally stripped from me? It's never really made sense to me why

> this fear is even here, but this has shed a little light on it.

> I just saw in one of Anodea Judith's book that the 5th chakra's

> developmental stage is from 7 to 12 years of age. I know it's probably

> not set in stone but seems too big of a coincidence to brush it off.

> My biggest fears come from the communication process.

> I also don't know what this means but lately my throat chakra has been

> opening and I notice that it feels like I'm wearing an energetic

> necklace.

> Well thanks for listening if you've made it this far, sorry for such a

> long message.

> craig

>

[Guest guest]

I recommend a soul retrieval meditation for you Craig.When you lose a part of yourself you need to go and find it again.This can be done easily, take a few deep breaths and relax, ask your mind to show you where this fear began, where you lost your confidence in yourself, travel in your mind to the part of your soul, probably a young boy waiting to be found again, find the point where he remained, maybe he's playing at school still or hiding in the trees, and then ask him to come back to you.I did this and had a great deal of healing, one of the most powerful things I have ever done for myself.If it resonates with you try it!!!!Do it a few times until you feel like its complete. Think of any time when you felt traumatised and lost a part of who you truly are, and recover the lost YOU.Its a shamanic tool.Lots of

loveelektra x x x

[Guest guest]

Wow Craig, it sounds like you've done quite a bit of discovery work here! That's awesome. I have always believed that knowing what the problem is brings you 50% of the way to resolving it.

I think it's encouraging that you have been able to be so open with this group. I also want to point out to you that the Kundalini can heal anything. That's not to say there will not be work in it for you, but the K can do things that otherwise would be considered difficult or impossible.

I don't know much about this, but have you considered doing some healing work with your inner child? There is lots of info out there if you Google "healing inner child". Perhaps something will resonate with you.

Best of luck to you Craig,

Sarita

, "kundaflame" <kundaflame wrote:>> thanks all, I really appreciate your comments. Last night, I think I> was finally made aware of possibly why this is taking place. I hope> yall don't mind me getting really personal. My fear is a fear of> public speaking and here's what returned to my awareness:> Around 3rd grade (I was 8 or 9 years old) I was an unruly kid. I was> outgoing, the class clown, had a lot of energy. I had not a care in> the world. I was alive and joyful, and had a lot of energy. So> instead of working with my temperament, my 3rd grade teacher suggested> to my mom that I take Cylert. I took it everyday up until around 7th> grade (I was 12 or 13). Every single day that I took that pill, I had> a splitting headache. Then I became really ashamed of who I was (I> wasn't aware of this at the time). I started wanting to be someone> else, anyone other than me. I became very self-conscious.

[Guest guest]

from chrism...

Craig

Emotional ups/downs are equivalent to a kriya on the physical body.

In order to experience bliss which iis an expanded feeling of

phenomena of love. The emotional body needs to be given the time and

the surrender to the process just as one would surrender to physical

kriyas and that process. Hypnosis is an action of manipulating the

conscious expression. If a person were to manipulate the conscious

experience this can form a blockage so I would not suggest using

hypnosis as a way of asserting control over the emotional kriya

phenomena. Rather I will suggest surrendering to the emotions

regardless of how they express (i.e. happy sad joyful angry.) These

expressions are merely the action of the kundalini expanding the

expressive matrix of the emotional body.

I suggest active engagement of the emotional protocols as given in the

safeties. Allow these changes to occur for as long as the kundalini

makes them occur. The emotions will eventually balance.

 

Time and surrender is the best policy for allowing the transformation

to be completed for your particular body of expression.

blessings to you- craig - chirsm

[Guest guest]

thank you elektra and sarita. I tried the soul retrieval meditation

and I saw myself on the playground as a boy just joyful and playing. I

asked him to come back to me and my heart opened wide and straight

back to my spine like a hole, more spacious than I've felt before. I

keeping as detached as possible and realize there is much more healing

that needs to take place, lol.

I also looked at a website that works at healing the inner child that

really resonates with me. It combines spirituality with this this

healing. I've already realized that I've been more of the critical

parent when watching my inner workings rather than a detached observer.

thanks to both of you

craig

 

 

 

, " Sarita "

<sarita1969 wrote:

>

>

> Wow Craig, it sounds like you've done quite a bit of discovery work

> here! That's awesome. I have always believed that knowing what the

> problem is brings you 50% of the way to resolving it.

>

> I think it's encouraging that you have been able to be so open with this

> group. I also want to point out to you that the Kundalini can heal

> anything. That's not to say there will not be work in it for you, but

> the K can do things that otherwise would be considered difficult or

> impossible.

>

> I don't know much about this, but have you considered doing some healing

> work with your inner child? There is lots of info out there if you

> Google " healing inner child " . Perhaps something will resonate with you.

>

> Best of luck to you Craig,

>

> Sarita

>

[Guest guest]

thank you for your continued guidance, I guess I always expect

something to happen with surrender like peace and so not actually

surrendering. It seems like for ever these problems have been

escalating, I've got to keep remembering that Shakti has a part in

this now, surrender, surrender, surrender. hopefully that will get it

through my head, lol. and no, I'm not going the hypnosis route.

namaste

craig

 

 

, " "

. wrote:

>

>

> from chrism...

> Craig

> Emotional ups/downs are equivalent to a kriya on the physical body.

> In order to experience bliss which iis an expanded feeling of

> phenomena of love. The emotional body needs to be given the time and

> the surrender to the process just as one would surrender to physical

> kriyas and that process. Hypnosis is an action of manipulating the

> conscious expression. If a person were to manipulate the conscious

> experience this can form a blockage so I would not suggest using

> hypnosis as a way of asserting control over the emotional kriya

> phenomena. Rather I will suggest surrendering to the emotions

> regardless of how they express (i.e. happy sad joyful angry.) These

> expressions are merely the action of the kundalini expanding the

> expressive matrix of the emotional body.

> I suggest active engagement of the emotional protocols as given in the

> safeties. Allow these changes to occur for as long as the kundalini

> makes them occur. The emotions will eventually balance.

>

> Time and surrender is the best policy for allowing the transformation

> to be completed for your particular body of expression.

> blessings to you- craig - chirsm

>