Guest guest Posted February 11, 2009 Report Share Posted February 11, 2009 Hi chrism, Its been so long since I've been here. I just went through an email and saw that you had an interview so I thought of popping by. I asked the question: Should phenomena and siddhas be accomplish, are they really so important or are they just a play of consciousness? Shouldn't we just drop such phenomena? The reason why I asked that question on the phenomena was because phenomena and siddhas seems like something that exists within the realm of form. Shouldn't the path be more at focus in moving beyond form then knowing what gifts that kundalini could bring to form?... sorry, I should ahve asked this during the interview too... love, Drea Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 11, 2009 Report Share Posted February 11, 2009 Hello Drea, Gifts are not given to be totally ignored. Nor are they given to be totally focused on. They are part of what is given as we are in form walking and talking amongst our fellow mortals. It takes a form of discernment to determine how to best attenuate or use the gifts of the divine but they are there for a reason and this is clear. We use them to help us to determine where we are in regards to our desires and ego expressions. This is why the expression of gifts is not the best reason for wanting to have the Kundalini. We are still subject to the laws of karma as we go into the awakening process. So how we use these skills will be measured. Going out of form is something that will continuously happen. We can continue to move into the enlightened position and yet still continue to have the form that our own individual expression is giving for us at the time we use it. Or that it uses us. We are still going to need to learn how to walk in the formless and these skills are also used there in that environment. - blessings - chrism , " Drea " <lvledusa wrote: >Hi chrism, > Its been so long since I've been here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 11, 2009 Report Share Posted February 11, 2009 Hi Chrism, If gifts were ever given to this one, I wouldnt so much ignore them but I would view them as creations of the maya realm. I've been noticing more and mroe of the plays that can happen and the tricks and traps that the maya realm does... They seem like possible barriers from the ultimate truth beyond, or barriers from enlightment. I feel that I would rather wait until some sort of enlightenment or realization happens, until the little " i " is dropped, or until the proper wisdom is there before having or using such gifts... It could be a trap to be so involved in these phenomenas even thoguh some of these gifts are being used for service for others thank you, -Drea , " chrism " <> wrote: > > Hello Drea, > Gifts are not given to be totally ignored. Nor are they > given to be totally focused on. They are part of what is given as we > are in form walking and talking amongst our fellow mortals. It takes a > form of discernment to determine how to best attenuate or use the > gifts of the divine but they are there for a reason and this is clear. > We use them to help us to determine where we are in regards to our > desires and ego expressions. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 20, 2009 Report Share Posted November 20, 2009 Thanks, Chrism. Your analogy of " Babies being fed and taught how to navigate a new land while remaining simultaneously in the familiar land " , is really at the heart of my question. My concern is in gracefully dealing with phenomena in work or social situations. How does that work? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 21, 2009 Report Share Posted November 21, 2009 Phenomena can often take the form of teaching experiences of a paranormal quality with attendant teachings given through symbols that are attached. Your response to these experiences will be determined what kind you have. Surrendering to them as completely as you can is best. No resistance no matter what. Easy to write but harder to do as we are used to dealing with our world through the controlling ego paradigm. The safeties are a great way to approach this Marty. And as your phenomena occurs you will receive as much help and assistance as the collected experience of this community can give. Your grace will remain intact my friend. Grace as I understand grace to be - lol! - I suggest that you merely open yourself to the energies that are given to you from this community at this point. Do not worry about how you may express in front of others when the stronger infusion occurs. Merely taste and feel and get your emotions and physical body resonating with what is occurring on this group. Kundalini is intelligent and it wont give you what you shouldnt have. - blessings Marty! - chrism , Martin Tanger <martytanger wrote: > My concern is in gracefully dealing with phenomena in work or social situations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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