Guest guest Posted February 15, 2009 Report Share Posted February 15, 2009 Kundalini symptoms have been termed as a " Spiritual Emergency " by some in the psychiatric practices. One typical response are high doses of anti psychotic drugs. The common view among western health care practitioners is to consider Kundalini to be a form of psychosis. And from this platform they will initiate a " treatment plan " for the person having Kundalini which often involves entire " cocktails " of mixed anti psychotic and other drugs. This can be damaging. This can also instill a perception of being sick by the individual. Of something not being right with their perceptions and inner psychologies. " Perhaps this is what crazy is..? " is a question often asked. Now the individual becomes at the mercy of other individuals with sometimes conflicting agendas for the Kundalini person. Everything about this scenario is geared consciously or not towards an expression of fear by the person having the Kundalini. One can imagine how many various types of damaging behavior opportunities and addictions are being offered to the Kundalini awakening person. So let us be clear about this here. Kundalini IS a natural condition of the evolving human being. Male or female. Kundalini is NOT a psychosis. Kundalini is NOT an illness or disease. Kundalini is a gift with origins not yet recognized by western science. Kundalini has purpose and intent of positive loving dynamics within and upon the human being. If you are having Kundalini far more is going well for you rather than wrong. Dont let anyone tell you differently and if they do anyway dont believe them. In the western societies at this time Kundalini is just another noodle variety like tortelini! So consider this when you go towards a contemporary healing modality option and find out first what the views are on Kundalini. Then make informed decisions about your own health care. - blessings all - chrism Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 15, 2009 Report Share Posted February 15, 2009 Chrism, Wow...this hit close to home with me. I had a 'break down' about a year ago and was hospitalized for being delusional and placed on anti psychotic drugs, anti-depressants and other mood enhancing drugs. Prior to this, I was totally drug free and believed it was the way. There were things that were happening to me, physiologically, especially in the area of accusatory remarks people were making- I was really loosing it, and did lose it. But just prior to this, all was absolute bliss, until the accusations started and I felt overwhelmed. After reading parts of Biology of Kundalini (Dana Dixon), and especially the western confusion between Kundalini and Schizophrenia, I started realizing what was happening....and believe me, it was not a joy filled ride. I took this all in stride, as an experience for me to evolve. I continue to see a Physiologist, who is of the South Asia area of the world, however, is convinced on the western principles of cure....drugs, drugs and more drugs. I fear that I have bought into this principle as well, as there is a difference in my thought process while on them or off. During my time off work, I've done quite a bit of research on Kundalini and found the phenomenon to enlightenment amazing. I find myself stuck in two worlds of different beliefs, western and eastern. I really wish to migrate back to the eastern and must say that this group has helped to swing the pendulum. Thanks. Be Well. Ernie - Sunday, February 15, 2009 5:13 PM Kundalini and western psychologic trauma Kundalini symptoms have been termed as a "Spiritual Emergency" by somein the psychiatric practices. One typical response are high doses ofanti psychotic drugs. The common view among western health carepractitioners is to consider Kundalini to be a form of psychosis. Andfrom this platform they will initiate a "treatment plan" for theperson having Kundalini which often involves entire "cocktails" ofmixed anti psychotic and other drugs.This can be damaging. This can also instill a perception of being sick by the individual. Ofsomething not being right with their perceptions and innerpsychologies. "Perhaps this is what crazy is..?" is a question oftenasked. Now the individual becomes at the mercy of other individualswith sometimes conflicting agendas for the Kundalini person. Everything about this scenario is geared consciously or not towards anexpression of fear by the person having the Kundalini. One can imaginehow many various types of damaging behavior opportunities andaddictions are being offered to the Kundalini awakening person. So let us be clear about this here.Kundalini IS a natural condition of the evolving human being. Male orfemale.Kundalini is NOT a psychosis.Kundalini is NOT an illness or disease.Kundalini is a gift with origins not yet recognized by western science.Kundalini has purpose and intent of positive loving dynamics withinand upon the human being. If you are having Kundalini far more is going well for you rather thanwrong. Dont let anyone tell you differently and if they do anyway dontbelieve them.In the western societies at this time Kundalini is just another noodlevariety like tortelini! So consider this when you go towards acontemporary healing modality option and find out first what the viewsare on Kundalini. Then make informed decisions about your own healthcare. - blessings all - chrism Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 15, 2009 Report Share Posted February 15, 2009 Yes. Many blessings to you Ernie, You have a view of the past Kundalini involvement that is in direct effect upon your present situation. This experiential fear pattern can be brought into a finer balance and it is how you are feeling about this balance that will determine its inception. The experience(s) that turned you towards the treatments of AMA based modalities is a perhaps core issue with regards to your reticence in bringing a Kundalini balance and expression into the picture. Yet the eastern leanings will bring it back into the fore. A return to or of those particular difficult experiential models isnt likely. Unless you re awaken the expressive aspects of the Kundalini and then still continue to take drugs to suppress that expression. You have changed and your knowledge base has increased. So follow your inner guidance Ernie. That excellent guidance which brought you into this group. I do not suggest that you participate in Kundalini generative practices until you have decided to surrender completely to the Kundalini agenda. I feel you have a good idea about what that means for you. These are mere suggestions. May blessings and much bliss for you in abundance Ernie!. - chrism , " ERNIE BENEVENTI " <erniebeneventi wrote: > > Chrism, > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 16, 2009 Report Share Posted February 16, 2009 Hello and Thanks. I thought the agenda of Kundalini included Surrender, as part of the process, versus a prerequisite of the practice. I do struggle with my Ego and was hoping that the safties would assist me on this journey. A lot has occurred to me in the last year, which I allowed my Ego to be built up again. The simple equation was: defensive state = higher Ego state. So now that I understand that, I was hoping to work on this during my safties, opposed to prior. Your thoughts are always welcomed. Blessings to you and what you do for humanity. Be Well. Ernie - Sunday, February 15, 2009 7:33 PM Re: Kundalini and western psychologic trauma Yes. Many blessings to you Ernie,You have a view of the past Kundalini involvement thatis in direct effect upon your present situation. This experientialfear pattern can be brought into a finer balance and it is how you arefeeling about this balance that will determine its inception. The experience(s) that turned you towards the treatments of AMA basedmodalities is a perhaps core issue with regards to your reticence inbringing a Kundalini balance and expression into the picture. Yet theeastern leanings will bring it back into the fore. A return to or of those particular difficult experiential models isntlikely. Unless you re awaken the expressive aspects of the Kundaliniand then still continue to take drugs to suppress that expression. You have changed and your knowledge base has increased. So follow yourinner guidance Ernie. That excellent guidance which brought you intothis group. I do not suggest that you participate in Kundalini generativepractices until you have decided to surrender completely to theKundalini agenda. I feel you have a good idea about what that meansfor you. These are mere suggestions. May blessings and much bliss for you inabundance Ernie!. - chrism , "ERNIEBENEVENTI" <erniebeneventi wrote:>> Chrism,> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 16, 2009 Report Share Posted February 16, 2009 Ernie Chrism treads lightly around the medication issue. It is a pretty well documented fact that these dr^gs can make you psychotic and delusional. That's how they manage to find repeat customers. In this case, less is more. So if its mostly Shakti, just surrender but ask for these events not to happen in public and dont mention them in public in any case. Love Peace. Dell chrism wrote: > Yes. Many blessings to you Ernie, > You have a view of the past Kundalini involvement that > is in direct effect upon your present situation. This experiential > fear pattern can be brought into a finer balance and it is how you are > feeling about this balance that will determine its inception. > > The experience(s) that turned you towards the treatments of AMA based > modalities is a perhaps core issue with regards to your reticence in > bringing a Kundalini balance and expression into the picture. Yet the > eastern leanings will bring it back into the fore. > > A return to or of those particular difficult experiential models isnt > likely. Unless you re awaken the expressive aspects of the Kundalini > and then still continue to take drugs to suppress that expression. > > You have changed and your knowledge base has increased. So follow your > inner guidance Ernie. That excellent guidance which brought you into > this group. > > I do not suggest that you participate in Kundalini generative > practices until you have decided to surrender completely to the > Kundalini agenda. I feel you have a good idea about what that means > for you. > > These are mere suggestions. May blessings and much bliss for you in > abundance Ernie!. - chrism > > > > > , " ERNIE > BENEVENTI " <erniebeneventi wrote: > >> Chrism, >> >> > > > > --- > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 16, 2009 Report Share Posted February 16, 2009 Thanks for your message Dell. Much of the energy coined me to be 'delusional', especially when I publicly spoke about them. I would share them with most of my friends and coworkers. I would also tell them about my dreams which they started interpreting themselves. Accusations towards me, were so wrong on so many levels, that it had me crash and burn with a sense of feeling defenseless. That experience is now a small moment for me, and I am very careful what I say to people- the western world is slowly waking up to it. I am back on my feet and at a point where I am slowly weaning off some of the drugs. Again, I finally can feel the energy rushing back up my spine, as it was numbed for the past year. I really missed the blissful feelings, which have also returned. Much of symptoms described in 'Biology of Kundalini (which is on the recommended read list), were sooo bang on with my experience, and I just wish I knew about it before my journey began. Then again, it's the experience that counts. Thanks again and Peace to Your Heart. Ernie - PICO TECH Monday, February 16, 2009 5:08 PM Re: Re: Kundalini and western psychologic trauma ErnieChrism treads lightly around the medication issue. It is a pretty well documented fact that these dr^gs can makeyou psychotic and delusional. That's how they manage to find repeat customers. In this case, less is more.So if its mostly Shakti, just surrender but ask for these events not to happen in public and dont mention them in public in any case.Love Peace.Dellchrism wrote:> Yes. Many blessings to you Ernie,> You have a view of the past Kundalini involvement that> is in direct effect upon your present situation. This experiential> fear pattern can be brought into a finer balance and it is how you are> feeling about this balance that will determine its inception. >> The experience(s) that turned you towards the treatments of AMA based> modalities is a perhaps core issue with regards to your reticence in> bringing a Kundalini balance and expression into the picture. Yet the> eastern leanings will bring it back into the fore. >> A return to or of those particular difficult experiential models isnt> likely. Unless you re awaken the expressive aspects of the Kundalini> and then still continue to take drugs to suppress that expression. >> You have changed and your knowledge base has increased. So follow your> inner guidance Ernie. That excellent guidance which brought you into> this group. >> I do not suggest that you participate in Kundalini generative> practices until you have decided to surrender completely to the> Kundalini agenda. I feel you have a good idea about what that means> for you. >> These are mere suggestions. May blessings and much bliss for you in> abundance Ernie!. - chrism>>>>> , "ERNIE> BENEVENTI" <erniebeneventi wrote:> >> Chrism,>> >> >>>> --->> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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