Guest guest Posted February 20, 2009 Report Share Posted February 20, 2009 Hi everyone, I'm wondering what celibacy is for. I assume it is because sex causes us to lose energy through the second chakra instead of it rising up the spine am I right? The reason I'm asking is because I recently seem to have lost interest in sex (im 25), things don't get me horny like they used to, even when I accidentally get an erection it's like it's no longer a sexual thing. Basically I don't get aroused. I'm not complaining it's much better than how I was before it kinda feels like I've matured in a way or grown out of it, I have just naturally " fallen " into celibacy. Or is there something wrong with me ? Thanks Cal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 20, 2009 Report Share Posted February 20, 2009 Celibacy??? Who in the world wants to do that?????? Well, bless your heart if that is what you want. If I meditate and astral surf for an hour, 3 times a week, by the end of the second week, I am crawling up the wall- this makes me so super horny. I dont know what it does. I think it increases the Serotoni and some other things. I dont do it that much any more. Ive done it with a woman who I knew we were going to make love, and we meditated and went out of body for an hour, and our 7,6,5,4th chakra melted together and we literally became one person. It was really amazingly wonderful, and then we we did make love, it made the angels stand up and shout with joy. She was married, and we didnt do it again. It scared her, it was that good. I cant wait until I do it again though. Robert from columbus ohio , " Cal " <awakeandaware wrote: > > Hi everyone, I'm wondering what celibacy is for. > > I assume it is because sex causes us to lose energy through the second > chakra instead of it rising up the spine am I right? > > The reason I'm asking is because I recently seem to have lost interest > in sex (im 25), things don't get me horny like they used to, even when > I accidentally get an erection it's like it's no longer a sexual > thing. Basically I don't get aroused. > > I'm not complaining it's much better than how I was before it kinda > feels like I've matured in a way or grown out of it, I have just > naturally " fallen " into celibacy. > > Or is there something wrong with me ? > > Thanks > Cal > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 20, 2009 Report Share Posted February 20, 2009 As it is suggested here Kundalini awakening makes use of the genital systems of reproduction for the purpose of transformation and the continuing evolution of the physical systems inside of a Kundalini awakening. It is used by the Kundalini as a locus of a " meta infusion " after the first areas of the activation have been achieved. It isnt forced or made as a hard and fast rule. It is merely suggested. S & xual expressions are indeed tremendously increased with the Kundalini and as we see and experience with many of the symptoms of the Kundalini there is more than a single obvious agenda for most of the physical systems of the body. There are levels of function and expression that go far beyond the mere physical. When Kundalini is added into the matrix many expressions get bumped into another level. Celibacy is as great as the greatest temporary org & sm that one can imagine as when it happens with Kundalini the ecstasy is bliss for hours and days rather than seconds. It isnt for everyone though Kundalini or not. It is a personal choice and I respect yours Robert. - , " Robert " <robertfeb wrote: > > Celibacy??? Who in the world wants to do that?????? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 20, 2009 Report Share Posted February 20, 2009 A detailed article on the importance of celibacy written by Swami Sivananda.http://www.dlshq.org/download/brahma_nopic.htmCheersSkoogle Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Invite them now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 21, 2009 Report Share Posted February 21, 2009 Cal: I searched the archives and came up with these two notes from chrism regarding celibacy. There are many other threads that discuss this topic. There is nothing wrong with not feeling s & xual or feeling overly s & xual within a Kundalni process both are often experienced. To me to be celibate one needs to make an intention to be so. Just because there are no S & xual feelings does not imply celibacy. I have been looking at this issue and my take is that once one reaches a level of Kundalini where one is at one with the " All that is " there is a melding of consciousness resulting in " pure " love. At that stage one feels a union with everything - the rocks, the wind, the trees, the animals and all humans. At this stage there is no need for a physical expression of that love, however many choose to continue the expression within their marriage or within their significant other relationship. And some are directed by their Kundalini to become celibate. I am aware that Kundalini may demand celibacy of me and if I reach the level of " pure " love I may not have any interest in the physical expression. I was raised Catholic and in the Catholic tradition and in other religious traditions there are those who enter a community or devote their life to their Divine and they do take a vow of celibacy. This to me is done to keep one's focus on the Divine and secondly because it is a total surrender to one's Divine. That is not to say you can not totally surrender within a physical expression. It is just another path. One is not better than another one is not more than another. And now I understand the GFA event within the Kundalini that does occur and that adds to the reason to be celibate. In my view we in the west are overly engaged with the aspect of s & x because the religious fathers decided it was a way to control the masses by attempting to control their basic functions. There is still today that same attempt to control by saying one s & xual expression is better than another and who and when one can express. Kundalini will guide us in what is needed for our individual path. It may not be what you prefer but it will always be what you need. I encourage all NEW MEMBERS to use the archives and to read chrism's articles on the main site. He does write on s & xual aspects within Kundalini. And if you truly want to explore the s & xual then ask to join the tantra group. There one can talk openly and in depth about this aspect of Kundalini. A reminder to ALL: PLEASE disguise any reference to s & x in posts - we like being a group that can house all ages. ANd do be careful when referencing old archived posts - the S word is not disguised often. so going thru and changing it is a good idea. THANK YOU by chrism... #19452 Celibacy can be helpful for the infusion. A recirculation of the s & xual fluids in men and women can infuse the body with a mixture of Kundalini and these fluids - these creative fluids - Kind of a Kundalini type plasma. It goes into the spine and the nervous system and can really take a person into another area of learning. So there are good reasons for it. Much of what has been written about the Kundalini comes from those who haven't activated it. Re interpretations of ancient manuscripts like the " Vedas " or other ancient kundalini materials can cause a form of mis-representation. S & xual expression must come first in many if not most scenarios. The Tibetan Lamas however do not have s & x. From the age of children they are taught that celibacy is the goal. So the GFA in them works from the activation and continues towards the awakening. They will typically go quite far. We in the west must do as we are meant and or called to do on a personal level. Having s & x is good. Being celibate is good. Options are good. - blessings – chrism #18445 Celibacy and the divine balance Celibacy isn't required by the Kundalini. In fact an extreme version of s & xual libido volatility can ensue due to the early infusion of the second chakra. As the activation gives way to an awakening though and the infusion continues upon its path, the option of a celibate lifestyle can present itself. It is indeed a reflection of the higher state and yes can show a balance between the dynamics of the human condition. It isn't the sole reflection of that state though. As much can be had inside of an awakening with a man and woman in the relationship of husband and wife or another similar partnering. As this can also reflect balance and a oneness from plurality. This would be another reflection of the " two that are one " . There is more than one way to the top of the mountain. S & xual orgasm is an experience of the divine but with the caveat of other factors such as emotion and the level of love inside the reason for the orgasm. The orgasm can be flat and not as pleasurable when it is procured for the sole reason of self gratification as opposed to when it is inspired by the qualities of love and mutual resonance. But these are the dynamics of personal choice and what we as individuals and couples bring to the experience and there are many variations upon that theme. Not a single path but many paths. To no longer seek this expression of s & xual experience by virtue of celibacy is an honored path but not to the exclusion of those who continue to partake of it. - my take - chrism Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 22, 2009 Report Share Posted February 22, 2009 When the Eastern ancients talked about celibacy, they meant basically, not to ejaculate, which wastes energy and life force, but to pull the energy up the spine and build a reservoir of that energy in the body. This can be done solo or with a partner. They understood that it was unnatural to deny urges, and to use the force in a way that neither denied the body nor expelled the energy unnecessarily. When one's sexual urges wanes several things could be happening, but the bottom line is as long as you are comfortable and " happy " , don't think too much about it. In due time, it either changes or becomes more clearer. Many terms like celibacy, etc. may not have direct translations or could mean several things, so many writings have been misunderstood and misinterpreted by well meaning authors. , " " . wrote: > > > Cal: > I searched the archives and came up with these two notes from chrism > regarding celibacy. There are many other threads that discuss this topic. > There is nothing wrong with not feeling s & xual or feeling overly > s & xual within a Kundalni process both are often experienced. To me to > be celibate one needs to make an intention to be so. Just because > there are no S & xual feelings does not imply celibacy. > > I have been looking at this issue and my take is that once one > reaches a level of Kundalini where one is at one with the " All that is > " there is a melding of consciousness resulting in " pure " love. At > that stage one feels a union with everything - the rocks, the wind, > the trees, the animals and all humans. At this stage there is no need > for a physical expression of that love, however many choose to > continue the expression within their marriage or within their > significant other relationship. And some are directed by their > Kundalini to become celibate. > > I am aware that Kundalini may demand celibacy of me and if I reach the > level of " pure " love I may not have any interest in the physical > expression. > > I was raised Catholic and in the Catholic tradition and in other > religious traditions there are those who enter a community or devote > their life to their Divine and they do take a vow of celibacy. This > to me is done to keep one's focus on the Divine and secondly because > it is a total surrender to one's Divine. That is not to say you can > not totally surrender within a physical expression. It is just > another path. One is not better than another one is not more than > another. And now I understand the GFA event within the Kundalini that > does occur and that adds to the reason to be celibate. > > In my view we in the west are overly engaged with the aspect of s & x > because the religious fathers decided it was a way to control the > masses by attempting to control their basic functions. There is still > today that same attempt to control by saying one s & xual expression is > better than another and who and when one can express. > Kundalini will guide us in what is needed for our individual path. > It may not be what you prefer but it will always be what you need. > > I encourage all NEW MEMBERS to use the archives and to read chrism's > articles on the main site. He does write on s & xual aspects within > Kundalini. And if you truly want to explore the s & xual then ask to > join the tantra group. There one can talk openly and in depth about > this aspect of Kundalini. > > A reminder to ALL: PLEASE disguise any reference to s & x in posts - we > like being a group that can house all ages. ANd do be careful when > referencing old archived posts - the S word is not disguised often. > so going thru and changing it is a good idea. THANK YOU > > > by chrism... > #19452 > Celibacy can be helpful for the infusion. A recirculation of the > s & xual fluids in men and women can infuse the body with a mixture of > Kundalini and these fluids - these creative fluids - Kind of a > Kundalini type plasma. It goes into the spine and the nervous system > and can really take a person into another area of learning. > > So there are good reasons for it. Much of what has been written > about the Kundalini comes from those who haven't activated it. Re > interpretations of ancient manuscripts like the " Vedas " or other > ancient kundalini materials can cause a form of mis-representation. > S & xual expression must come first in many if not most scenarios. > > The Tibetan Lamas however do not have s & x. From the age of children > they are taught that celibacy is the goal. So the GFA in them works > from the activation and continues towards the awakening. They will > typically go quite far. > > We in the west must do as we are meant and or called to do on a > personal level. Having s & x is good. Being celibate is good. Options > are good. - blessings � chrism > > #18445 Celibacy and the divine balance > Celibacy isn't required by the Kundalini. In fact an extreme > version of s & xual libido volatility can ensue due to the early > infusion of the second chakra. > > As the activation gives way to an awakening though and the infusion > continues upon its path, the option of a celibate lifestyle can > present itself. It is indeed a reflection of the higher state and > yes can show a balance between the dynamics of the human condition. > > It isn't the sole reflection of that state though. As much can be > had inside of an awakening with a man and woman in the relationship > of husband and wife or another similar partnering. As this can also > reflect balance and a oneness from plurality. This would be another > reflection of the " two that are one " . There is more than one way to > the top of the mountain. > > S & xual orgasm is an experience of the divine but with the caveat of > other factors such as emotion and the level of love inside the > reason for the orgasm. The orgasm can be flat and not as pleasurable > when it is procured for the sole reason of self gratification as > opposed to when it is inspired by the qualities of love and mutual > resonance. But these are the dynamics of personal choice and what we > as individuals and couples bring to the experience and there are > many variations upon that theme. Not a single path but many paths. > > To no longer seek this expression of s & xual experience by virtue of > celibacy is an honored path but not to the exclusion of those who > continue to partake of it. - my take - chrism > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 22, 2009 Report Share Posted February 22, 2009 Please in order to not be swept off into the " adult porno section " of when writing about " s & xual " issues please disguise the words that pertain to that activity. LOL. This we are forced to do by not because we are prudish about the discussion of these natural expressions. - in gratitude to all for this small task. - blessings - chrism Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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