Kundalini and enlightenment - Venugopal

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Hello Venugopal,

The great Indian legacy of yoga and the influence of

the Sanskriti peoples as you have mentioned before, are clearly

indicative of the positive contributions of knowledge and experience

with regard to the Kundalini that we have been blessed to receive from

the Indian culture. Even though most contemporary Indians know very

little of these experiences and conditions it is of that heritage that

many understand the condition even to the point of the use of the

word itself " Kundalini " as a way of understanding.

 

Not all that has been lost has been found and we may yet read of a

discovery that mentions the Kundalini. In my opinion the " Rig Veda " is

a compendium of Kundalini information that only those with awakened

Kundalini are meant to read. Yes I know this will not be accepted by

academia and that is fine.

 

There has been great mention of other conditions and substances that

do have the qualities of moving an individual into enlightened states

of being and these are documented in the ancient literature one

example being that of SOMA the short path.

 

By even having the idea of exalted states of enlightenment being

possible they begin to tread into the fertile ground of the Kundalini.

Even though it may not have been written or the writings may not have

yet been found it is my feeling and belief that the sutras of yoga

were designed by those who had a direct observation of a person going

into the kriyas of the Kundalini.

 

That kriyas resemble the yoga sutras is no accident in my humble

opinion and I will state that Kundalini in the human being far

predates any example of yoga written anywhere as it is contiguous with

our physical being.

 

Once again of course this will not be accepted by anyone in

" authority " on these subjects but that it as it is.

 

Venugopal I know your are a person of facts as concrete explanations

of what is and what isnt and I do greatly appreciate your views on

these subjects. Your posts and views are always a breath of India and

of the many cultures that comprise her. Thank you for your presence

and for putting up with my opinions! -

 

, Venugopal AK

<akvenugopal wrote:

>Dear chrism and Bruce,I write from India.

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chism and Venugopal

the first sutra asks what is yoga

the second sutra tells about preparation of this yoga and that other yogas should be practiced/mastered first.

raja yoga is laid out in four stages and or chapters, the last chapter incorporates bija samadhi of the perfected soul

I believe before one can understand the process of raja yoga the ground work concerning the kundalini must be activated.

My teacher would always tell me it is not time yet for people in general to tread the path of raja yoga; raja yoga is a state of mental activity and disciplined control and if forced would blow to many minds

Satyananda would say that raja yoga was for those who are mystics.

Kriya yoga is sold by the Satyananda Mob, though satyanada himself says that it is a mixture of hatha and raja yogas and is designed in such away for householders.

John

 

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Saturday, February 21, 2009 5:55 PM

Re: Kundalini and enlightenment - Venugopal

 

 

Hello Venugopal,The great Indian legacy of yoga and the influence ofthe Sanskriti peoples as you have mentioned before, are clearlyindicative of the positive contributions of knowledge and experiencewith regard to the Kundalini that we have been blessed to receive fromthe Indian culture. Even though most contemporary Indians know verylittle of these experiences and conditions it is of that heritage thatmany understand the condition even to the point of the use of theword itself "Kundalini" as a way of understanding. Not all that has been lost has been found and we may yet read of adiscovery that mentions the Kundalini. In my opinion the "Rig Veda" isa compendium of Kundalini information that only those with awakenedKundalini are meant to read. Yes I know this will not be accepted byacademia and that is fine.There has been great mention of other conditions and substances thatdo have the qualities of moving an individual into enlightened statesof being and these are documented in the ancient literature oneexample being that of SOMA the short path.By even having the idea of exalted states of enlightenment beingpossible they begin to tread into the fertile ground of the Kundalini.Even though it may not have been written or the writings may not haveyet been found it is my feeling and belief that the sutras of yogawere designed by those who had a direct observation of a person goinginto the kriyas of the Kundalini. That kriyas resemble the yoga sutras is no accident in my humbleopinion and I will state that Kundalini in the human being farpredates any example of yoga written anywhere as it is contiguous withour physical being.Once again of course this will not be accepted by anyone in"authority" on these subjects but that it as it is. Venugopal I know your are a person of facts as concrete explanationsof what is and what isnt and I do greatly appreciate your views onthese subjects. Your posts and views are always a breath of India andof the many cultures that comprise her. Thank you for your presenceand for putting up with my opinions! - , Venugopal AK<akvenugopal wrote:>Dear chrism and Bruce,I write from India.