re: Entities & OBE's

[Guest guest]

Hello. It has been quite a while since I typed to the group. You probably don't

remember (as it has been a while) but I first joined to find out more about the

attacks I have experienced while sleeping. Thank you for suggesting some

things that I could try to make the events less traumatic.

 

I have had two more encounters since I last typed. I tried very hard to

surrender and control my fear. The attacks this time were much milder and almost

tolerable! It has been several months since the last one (which was much better)

and I hope they have now stopped completely.

 

Two nights ago I experienced what I think is an OBE. I felt my body leave my

sleeping form while I slept. There was much noise like loud rushing water

running past my ears. I felt my body hover over my sleeping form about three

feet. When I turned to look below me, my breathing changed, I was back in my

real body and the noise stopped. I managed to do this about 5 times, never

getting more than about 3 feet above my real body because I would start to freak

out and try to look back?. Does this sound like an OBE? I doubt I could ever do

this again because I don't know why it happened in the first place!

[Guest guest]

Hello gillianbunny,

Yes these are OBE's. Congratulations! Nice going. Keep doing

them and you will relax at the sight of your sleeping form. This is a normal

reaction and you can see how fast you return to the body as the fear comes. Soon

the fear will not come at all and you can fly to many places or where you wish

or can think of as you are having the OBE. - Keep going gillianbunny! - chrism

 

 

, " gillianbunny "

<Gillibunny wrote:

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> Hello. It has been quite a while since I typed to the group.

[Guest guest]

Hey there, girly girl, do not be afraid. the body you see is yourself. Pogo, a

Sunday Paper Cartoon Character used to say, " we have met the enemy and he is

us " .

 

Sometimes when we, or at least I do, when I go out of body, I can see myself

floating over me, sometimes I can see a cord and sometimes not..Ive written

about it alot, I write my OBE experinces. I thnk it is not uncommon to hear the

noise, no big deal, just go with the flow, just do it. I go over through zazen

meditation or with hemisync music and headphones. Below is one of my latest

journeys, and you can see I recorded seeing my astral body floating above me. I

think most of the time I do notice it and I write about it. This is my lastest,

go with it, dont resist.

 

2012 Is coming, its time to change and change is coming to lots of people,

weather they like it or not. This man who shot up 3 towns and killed his family

and a total of 10 people had his sixth and seventh chakra open and this freaked

him out, to say the least. It will be good to understand these things to help

yourself and to help others. By voluntarily crossing over you are learning the

fundelmentals which are the essentials. Randy Hastings says everyone will have

their 6th and 7th chakras open between now and 10 years after 2012.Be perpared

and you will be okay. Changes are coming, almost everyone I know is having an

upheaval in their lives today, of some sort, the old and weak is crumbling and

being replaced with something new. No doubt the Watchers are moving people

around to have them in place.

 

I dont know if what you discribed is an OBE, but it is on the path to having

one. Dont stop, and do not be afraid. Become the unknown. Get with a friend and

do this. Practice grasshopper and do not stop. Robert from Columbus Ohio

 

022209 Sunday, February 22, 2009

I prepared myself, and settled down a few minutes before ten. I had given up

hope of trying to find a suitable room mate, so I began to turn the upstairs

room into a spiritual haven. It has hardwood floors, and is rather empty so it

has a good vibrational effect for sound. I put a couple of lounge chairs up

there to lie on, and a few other pieces of furniture, to put a candle and some

place to burn incense on, and so forth. I turned on my portable CD player and

did this without using headphones to see how this would be with a small group up

there doing the same thing.

 

I said my prayers and called my guides, and loved ones, and soon I saw my body

floating above me. Sometimes I can see the attached cord and sometimes not.

Almost immediately I felt the small of my back `tingle', and it came upward

towards the area between my shoulder blades. That is the kundalini. I did the

zazen meditation making my mind a blank slate, unplugging from this world, and

giving all of my attention to my higher self, my inner being, my blue body.

 

I had a feeling of falling backwards, and it continued. I could see myself and I

was in a tube, a dark tube or a pipe, and the end was far away, and I could see

the light at the end of the tunnel and it looked very far away, and I was

falling but I was going horizontally, or it seemed that way. I don't remember

when I stopped.

 

I saw Heather and I looked to see where she was, but I could only see `white'. I

couldn't tell if she was in a chair, or on a couch, or in bed. I do know, now,

when this occurs, I am seeing the aura, her aura and it was all white.

 

I heard a woman's voice asking me if I wanted to talk to Chuck. I said, I didn't

know any Chuck. I was asked this question again, and I gave the same reply.

Finally, I said, Sure I will talk with Chuck, but I don't remember what we

talked about.

 

I was wondering aimlessly around, with no purpose or direction, so I directed my

attention to the Front Porch Area, and the Train Station. This is where Robert

Monroe, calls the Departure Station. There I saw the old crew, and Betty and

Gracie and all the others. I also saw Allen, my brother. I asked him where he

has been, and we talked, but I don't remember our conversation. Allen Ray made

his crossover Memorial Day, of 2001, and just recently he has been showing up

regularly, and often.

 

Gracie said she was proud of me and liked the idea of me starting a Church and

using the name of her Church, and I don't remember the rest of the conversation.

 

I wanted to go to the Soul Forest and I smelt the abundance of the pure oxygen

there, and I don't remember much after that, but I do believe I arrived there

because of the smell. The smell of the purity of oxygen is unforgettable.

 

Eventually the CD ended, but I didn't want to get up. I had sat a timer to go

off an hour and a half, using it as my anchor. I was so peaceful and so totally

contented. This must be like what it is like when one crosses over permantely.

One doesn't want to come back. One doesn't want to wake up. It is so relaxing,

no aches, no wants, just being in that one moment which lasts a long long long

time. That one second of bliss, becomes stretched forever.

 

I can see there should not be any pain or turmoil in ones life; it is only there

because one has invited it. That time I spent there without sound, without the

CD playing, that was heaven. That was me being perfect with Grace, being one

with Creation, being one with the Universe. There should be nothing less than

perfection with us and with our lives, but somehow, someway, for some reason, we

invite it and give honor to it, we validate it – to the imperfection, to the

pain, and illness, and the dis-ease. For some reason it's there for a reason for

us to learn something. Those thirty minutes was blissful. I had no pain, no

arms, no body, no worries, no fears; I had no legs, no bank account, no bills to

pay, no nothing. My only existence was my consciousness, and that was `sharing

time and space' with the One Source, with Grace, with the Creator. I was Grace.

I was all there was.

 

I now think people want to return to the oxygen world after becoming a

Crossover, to experience pain and turmoil because it is a habit. They have

trouble owning the possibility of them being filled with God and perfection. For

some reason they can not accept that as easily as the other. For some reason.

 

Now I see I have to go forth and mingle with the `problem-matics', and continue

onward with my journey in the oxygen filled world, one day at a time. Waiting,

one day, for one day I will no longer have the requirement for oxygen, no longer

to have the need to mingle with `them' – the problem-matics, those who uses

oxygen wastefully, and it seems they live their lives with the desire and

purpose to increase their problems more and more, like stacking up bundles, and

they want to splash theirs over to the next person, whoever it is. They want to

infest, and to inflict as many as they can, like they are earning points in a

game, its like spreading the plague- a plague not of disease, but of problems,

anything to keep one from focusing on the true intent – on becoming one with

God., and being like God. The problem-matics are everywhere.

 

I feel so fortunate I have friends, like Allan, Betty, and Gracie, and the

others over there, to teach me and guide me with these wonderful lessons of life

and living in many different worlds and various dimensions. I feel very

fortunate, and feel I am very much loved. I think I am love.

 

My blessings to you and yours, your friend, Robert

 

 

 

 

 

, " gillianbunny "

<Gillibunny wrote:

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> Hello. It has been quite a while since I typed to the group. You probably

don't remember (as it has been a while) but I first joined to find out more

about the attacks I have experienced while sleeping. Thank you for

suggesting some things that I could try to make the events less traumatic.

>

> I have had two more encounters since I last typed. I tried very hard to

surrender and control my fear. The attacks this time were much milder and almost

tolerable! It has been several months since the last one (which was much better)

and I hope they have now stopped completely.

>

> Two nights ago I experienced what I think is an OBE. I felt my body leave my

sleeping form while I slept. There was much noise like loud rushing water

running past my ears. I felt my body hover over my sleeping form about three

feet. When I turned to look below me, my breathing changed, I was back in my

real body and the noise stopped. I managed to do this about 5 times, never

getting more than about 3 feet above my real body because I would start to freak

out and try to look back?. Does this sound like an OBE? I doubt I could ever do

this again because I don't know why it happened in the first place!

>

[Guest guest]

I will try to keep it going, but I don't understand how or why it happened in

the first place. It wasn't as scary as the entities that is for SURE! The key

seemed to be the breathing? It was like when I wanted to leave my body again, I

held my breath and then slowly released it throughout my body?? I know it sounds

really strange, but it seemed to start things rolling?

 

 

 

 

 

> Hello gillianbunny,

> Yes these are OBE's. Congratulations! Nice going. Keep

doing them and you will relax at the sight of your sleeping form. This is a

normal reaction and you can see how fast you return to the body as the fear

comes. Soon the fear will not come at all and you can fly to many places or

where you wish or can think of as you are having the OBE. - Keep going

gillianbunny! - chrism

>

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> , " gillianbunny "

<Gillibunny@> wrote:

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> > Hello. It has been quite a while since I typed to the group.

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[Guest guest]

The hows and the whys will become clearer as you practice coming into these

areas more often. For the moment I will suggest that you merely enjoy and

explore. Look at your hands as you hold them in front of your face next time. Or

mentally say with force " Clarity Now! " Either of these methods can really

sharpen your focus and the conscious experience of the OBE.

 

As best you can Gillianbunny try to get used to both phenomena of entities and

the OBE. You are strong and fear isnt needed unless you deem it needed. Entities

are common so is astral projection or OBE's. Often these experiences are

preludes to the activation of Kundalini.

 

Follow the breath. This is a good technique and do not worry about explaining it

well. Some things can defy common explanation. Do the breathing as you have felt

yourself able to do so and become familiar with these beautiful states of

consciousness. - blessings Gillianbunny. - chrism

 

 

 

, " gillianbunny "

<Gillibunny wrote:

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> I will try to keep it going, but I don't understand how or why it happened in

the first place. It wasn't as scary as the entities that is for SURE! The key

seemed to be the breathing? It was like when I wanted to leave my body again, I

held my breath and then slowly released it throughout my body?? I know it sounds

really strange, but it seemed to start things rolling?

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> > Hello gillianbunny,

> > Yes these are OBE's. Congratulations! Nice going. Keep

doing them and you will relax at the sight of your sleeping form. This is a

normal reaction and you can see how fast you return to the body as the fear

comes. Soon the fear will not come at all and you can fly to many places or

where you wish or can think of as you are having the OBE. - Keep going

gillianbunny! - chrism

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> > , " gillianbunny "

<Gillibunny@> wrote:

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> > > Hello. It has been quite a while since I typed to the group.

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[Guest guest]

I don’t know if I am as

strong as you say Chrism, but I am interested in exploring the OBE’s

further. I will try the ‘Clarity Now!’ next time (if there is a

next time) and see if it clears the perception better.

 

What is really strange is that I somehow knew that the breathing

method would start the OBE!? I mean I have never done this before and yet my

body ‘knew’? Quite weird……

 

No more entities PLEASE! LOL!

 

 

 

The hows and the whys will become clearer as

you practice coming into these areas more often. For the moment I will suggest

that you merely enjoy and explore. Look at your hands as you hold them in front

of your face next time. Or mentally say with force " Clarity Now! "

Either of these methods can really sharpen your focus and the conscious

experience of the OBE.

 

As best you can Gillianbunny try to get used to both phenomena of entities and

the OBE. You are strong and fear isnt needed unless you deem it needed.

Entities are common so is astral projection or OBE's. Often these experiences

are preludes to the activation of Kundalini.

 

Follow the breath. This is a good technique and do not worry about explaining

it well. Some things can defy common explanation. Do the breathing as you have

felt yourself able to do so and become familiar with these beautiful states of

consciousness. - blessings Gillianbunny. - chrism

 

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" gillianbunny " <Gillibunny wrote:

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> I will try to keep it going, but I don't understand how or why it happened

in the first place. It wasn't as scary as the entities that is for SURE! The

key seemed to be the breathing? It was like when I wanted to leave my body

again, I held my breath and then slowly released it throughout my body?? I know

it sounds really strange, but it seemed to start things rolling?

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