Guest guest Posted March 22, 2009 Report Share Posted March 22, 2009 Hello KarmaBurn and a warm welcome to our group. You make some insightful and fascinating observations. According to Jungian philosophy the idea of entities within the individuation process is an interesting way to interpret ourselves and although an often relevant tool for accessing our progress within our spiritual pursuits does not refer to how we interpret entities in this instance. Entities (as we refer to them) are indeed " another vibration of consciousness playing its sound " . Repressed aspects of our consciousness manifest as Jung's " shadow " self and will often be interpreted as something outside oneself. Therapy or careful discernment should be used to determine the origin of a perceived entity in this instance. Total honesty within ones personal appraisal should yield the answer. Insofar as " energy patterns floating about in other dimensions that are attracted to us through natural laws and manifest themselves as distortions in our behavior due to over or under active energy centers " this is an interesting premise and (as far as i know) one that has yet to be sufficiently investigated. I believe that the possibility exists for other dimensional energies to filter through but without consciousness (choice) existing to direct their intentions these energies are unable to interact or influence anything physical. The difference with entities though is they are conscious and therefore have choice and freewill and will attempt to influence our choice and freewill to attach and draw energy. Thank you again for your thoughts. Love, glen. , " karmaburn8 " <karmaburn8 wrote: > > Greetings everyone, > > This is my first post, so I would like to introduce myself and announce my support to this group and its members. My name is Zack, and I've been experiencing the kundalini for about five years now. It is an ever changing process, moving through all the dimensions of my being. I join this group with an intention to share my own experiences, ideas, dreams, and fears, and be here to support others in their own journey with the kundalini. > > The idea of entities is an interesting way to interpret ourselves and out interactions with the world. Entities in the astral plane is not something I completely understand. If anyone has some information on that end, I'd enjoy reading it. > > The primal forces of our being will create feelings of lust or sexual attraction. This is a powerful energy that both men and women experience. I've read about tantra and energy dynamics, they seem to allow this energy to express itself so the energy will recede and then rise into the next energy center, allowing the essence of the next energy to be free from the previous or lower center. When this impulse influences the mind and body, do we seperate it from our consciousness and call it an entity or is it another vibration of consciousness playing its sound? Do we refer to such a perspective arising in the mind as " entity " when we cannot connect it to ourselves? Is this the case when a repressed aspect of our consciousness manifests? > > Is the idea of entity employed because there are energy patterns floating about in other dimensions that are attracted to us through natural laws and manifest themselves as disortions in our behavior due to over or under active energy centers? Are these entites in their own right, or are they pieces of information which change the sum total expression of our consciousness when they are factored into our energy system? > > Grateful to be apart of this group. Blessings to everyone. > KB > > > > , Elektra Fire <elektra.fire@> wrote: > > > > To get rid of sexual entities, just focus on being as pure in mind and body as possible, train your dreams to address the entity , never have s3x within the dream, when it realises it cant get you to agree to have s3x anymore it loses interest and goes away. > > > > I told mine to go and it tried a few more times in the dream until success and off it scarpered. > > > > hope this helps > > elektra x x x > > > > ps also a circle of protection when u sleep say " only that which is of shakti may enter the circle. " > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 22, 2009 Report Share Posted March 22, 2009 What is the nature of such entities, that cling to the action of our intent? Another way to ask this question is, in what mode of survival are they in, what is their path or journey? In the case of the shadow, an entity (individual person) may be colored, expanded, or narrowed by their own energy patterns, but in the case of an entity attaching itself to an individual, where do they come from? These questions pertain to aspects of reality which are very subtle and ephemeral, so I realize there may not be an definitive answers. What I'm trying to contemplate is how they survive, and for what purpose? What stake do they have in what we are experiencing in our human based perception of reality? The psychological entities that individuals carry around, that present themselves in some circumstances and withdrawal in others, are more easily identified. The entities as you describe seem to be apart of a world I've yet to understand or visualize. How can one identify such entities, and if there are various types, which I imagine is probable in a universe made of life, how can one discern between them in order to appropriately respond? Thanks for the welcome, and I apologize if this question is in anyway a disruption to the shaktipat that is occurring at the moment. It is my assumption that dialogues may continue separately. I'm new to this group and am not grounded in the safeties, which I'm going to study and implement immediately. Because of this fact, I'm certain that I will not partake in the shaktipat, in light of the nature it was given. I offer my blessings to the group. KB , " gleno " <gleno wrote: > > Hello KarmaBurn and a warm welcome to our group. > > You make some insightful and fascinating observations. According to Jungian philosophy the idea of entities within the individuation process is an interesting way to interpret ourselves and although an often relevant tool for accessing our progress within our spiritual pursuits does not refer to how we interpret entities in this instance. Entities (as we refer to them) are indeed " another vibration of consciousness playing its sound " . > > Repressed aspects of our consciousness manifest as Jung's " shadow " self and will often be interpreted as something outside oneself. Therapy or careful discernment should be used to determine the origin of a perceived entity in this instance. Total honesty within ones personal appraisal should yield the answer. > > Insofar as " energy patterns floating about in other dimensions that are attracted to us through natural laws and manifest themselves as distortions in our behavior due to over or under active energy centers " this is an interesting premise and (as far as i know) one that has yet to be sufficiently investigated. I believe that the possibility exists for other dimensional energies to filter through but without consciousness (choice) existing to direct their intentions these energies are unable to interact or influence anything physical. The difference with entities though is they are conscious and therefore have choice and freewill and will attempt to influence our choice and freewill to attach and draw energy. > > Thank you again for your thoughts. > > Love, glen. > > > , " karmaburn8 " <karmaburn8@> wrote: > > > > Greetings everyone, > > > > This is my first post, so I would like to introduce myself and announce my support to this group and its members. My name is Zack, and I've been experiencing the kundalini for about five years now. It is an ever changing process, moving through all the dimensions of my being. I join this group with an intention to share my own experiences, ideas, dreams, and fears, and be here to support others in their own journey with the kundalini. > > > > The idea of entities is an interesting way to interpret ourselves and out interactions with the world. Entities in the astral plane is not something I completely understand. If anyone has some information on that end, I'd enjoy reading it. > > > > The primal forces of our being will create feelings of lust or sexual attraction. This is a powerful energy that both men and women experience. I've read about tantra and energy dynamics, they seem to allow this energy to express itself so the energy will recede and then rise into the next energy center, allowing the essence of the next energy to be free from the previous or lower center. When this impulse influences the mind and body, do we seperate it from our consciousness and call it an entity or is it another vibration of consciousness playing its sound? Do we refer to such a perspective arising in the mind as " entity " when we cannot connect it to ourselves? Is this the case when a repressed aspect of our consciousness manifests? > > > > Is the idea of entity employed because there are energy patterns floating about in other dimensions that are attracted to us through natural laws and manifest themselves as disortions in our behavior due to over or under active energy centers? Are these entites in their own right, or are they pieces of information which change the sum total expression of our consciousness when they are factored into our energy system? > > > > Grateful to be apart of this group. Blessings to everyone. > > KB > > > > > > > > , Elektra Fire <elektra.fire@> wrote: > > > > > > To get rid of sexual entities, just focus on being as pure in mind and body as possible, train your dreams to address the entity , never have s3x within the dream, when it realises it cant get you to agree to have s3x anymore it loses interest and goes away. > > > > > > I told mine to go and it tried a few more times in the dream until success and off it scarpered. > > > > > > hope this helps > > > elektra x x x > > > > > > ps also a circle of protection when u sleep say " only that which is of shakti may enter the circle. " > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 22, 2009 Report Share Posted March 22, 2009 As you say KB (and I paraphrase) contemplation of most of these questions can only be at best objective guesses. Having said that, their interactions within this world can be mapped out via my own experiences and those of others which generally concur (though with minor perceptive differences brought about by societal and religious upbringing). According to Oxfords an entity is " a thing with distinct and independent existence. " For our purposes we will limit the interpretation to " other dimensional being. " There are many different types of these entities. Some have good intentions, some not so good whilst others are indifferent. Many are at a point in their evolution where the higher emotions are unknown to them so in actuality a lack of good intent could be considered indifference. Our interpretation of good/bad is probably limited to our physical perception of duality. As a species we can be extremely judgmental. An unseen entity attaches and we perceive a clandestine life energy thief! Yet a mosquito will attempt to go unnoticed to suck our blood. It is much the same thing. There are entities with limited intelligence who can easily be compared to the humble mossie. I believe they are almost as common and usually feed whilst we sleep. They even use an anesthetic of sorts to hide their presence at the point of attachment. Other more advanced types get into our heads. I will stop short of saying they read our mind but rather they make us use our personal fears as a method of attack. Also our thoughts can influence their actions. For example if I (even subconsciously) intend to leave the room they might jump off me. I am certain they don't understand our language or even what a room is but they do have a primal understanding of intent and action. Keep in mind the astral world is all about thought. There are many other varieties (including the sexual predator types). The common thread is that they are all of astral origin and therefore limited in their interactions within the physical domain. Consequently despite their differences they all use similar methods of attachment and attack. There are a few good psychic self defense books available although in a kundalini scenario I would probably suggest the advice available through this group will be sufficient to assist one through their entity plight. All my best, glen. , " karmaburn8 " <karmaburn8 wrote: > > What is the nature of such entities, that cling to the action of our intent? Another way to ask this question is, in what mode of survival are they in, what is their path or journey? > > In the case of the shadow, an entity (individual person) may be colored, expanded, or narrowed by their own energy patterns, but in the case of an entity attaching itself to an individual, where do they come from? These questions pertain to aspects of reality which are very subtle and ephemeral, so I realize there may not be an definitive answers. What I'm trying to contemplate is how they survive, and for what purpose? What stake do they have in what we are experiencing in our human based perception of reality? > > The psychological entities that individuals carry around, that present themselves in some circumstances and withdrawal in others, are more easily identified. The entities as you describe seem to be apart of a world I've yet to understand or visualize. How can one identify such entities, and if there are various types, which I imagine is probable in a universe made of life, how can one discern between them in order to appropriately respond? > > Thanks for the welcome, and I apologize if this question is in anyway a disruption to the shaktipat that is occurring at the moment. It is my assumption that dialogues may continue separately. I'm new to this group and am not grounded in the safeties, which I'm going to study and implement immediately. Because of this fact, I'm certain that I will not partake in the shaktipat, in light of the nature it was given. I offer my blessings to the group. > > KB > > > > > , " gleno " <gleno@> wrote: > > > > Hello KarmaBurn and a warm welcome to our group. > > > > You make some insightful and fascinating observations. According to Jungian philosophy the idea of entities within the individuation process is an interesting way to interpret ourselves and although an often relevant tool for accessing our progress within our spiritual pursuits does not refer to how we interpret entities in this instance. Entities (as we refer to them) are indeed " another vibration of consciousness playing its sound " . > > > > Repressed aspects of our consciousness manifest as Jung's " shadow " self and will often be interpreted as something outside oneself. Therapy or careful discernment should be used to determine the origin of a perceived entity in this instance. Total honesty within ones personal appraisal should yield the answer. > > > > Insofar as " energy patterns floating about in other dimensions that are attracted to us through natural laws and manifest themselves as distortions in our behavior due to over or under active energy centers " this is an interesting premise and (as far as i know) one that has yet to be sufficiently investigated. I believe that the possibility exists for other dimensional energies to filter through but without consciousness (choice) existing to direct their intentions these energies are unable to interact or influence anything physical. The difference with entities though is they are conscious and therefore have choice and freewill and will attempt to influence our choice and freewill to attach and draw energy. > > > > Thank you again for your thoughts. > > > > Love, glen. > > > > > > , " karmaburn8 " <karmaburn8@> wrote: > > > > > > Greetings everyone, > > > > > > This is my first post, so I would like to introduce myself and announce my support to this group and its members. My name is Zack, and I've been experiencing the kundalini for about five years now. It is an ever changing process, moving through all the dimensions of my being. I join this group with an intention to share my own experiences, ideas, dreams, and fears, and be here to support others in their own journey with the kundalini. > > > > > > The idea of entities is an interesting way to interpret ourselves and out interactions with the world. Entities in the astral plane is not something I completely understand. If anyone has some information on that end, I'd enjoy reading it. > > > > > > The primal forces of our being will create feelings of lust or sexual attraction. This is a powerful energy that both men and women experience. I've read about tantra and energy dynamics, they seem to allow this energy to express itself so the energy will recede and then rise into the next energy center, allowing the essence of the next energy to be free from the previous or lower center. When this impulse influences the mind and body, do we seperate it from our consciousness and call it an entity or is it another vibration of consciousness playing its sound? Do we refer to such a perspective arising in the mind as " entity " when we cannot connect it to ourselves? Is this the case when a repressed aspect of our consciousness manifests? > > > > > > Is the idea of entity employed because there are energy patterns floating about in other dimensions that are attracted to us through natural laws and manifest themselves as disortions in our behavior due to over or under active energy centers? Are these entites in their own right, or are they pieces of information which change the sum total expression of our consciousness when they are factored into our energy system? > > > > > > Grateful to be apart of this group. Blessings to everyone. > > > KB > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 22, 2009 Report Share Posted March 22, 2009 Greetings chrism and glen, The windows operating system is a visual way of interacting with information, and the reality of form is pretty much the same. Could you reflect at all on the way in which astral entities interface with each other and with our earthly realm? For example, can an entity experience a version of our reality, and through its action in that reality, manifest changes that correlate with our own? Perhaps, is there is parallel between an astral entity's experience and a person's experience through the mechanism of symbolism? By this I mean, could a person or person's energy signature manifest in the conscious of an entity as a symbol, which they may then react to or incorporate into their own intention, just as we may see a monster or fairy, and then incorporate into our own? Can symbolism be a thread that ties different worlds or dimensions together? This would make sense in our dream world, which can be so crafted with purpose and structure, but I wonder if their is a parallel experience being created for any other entities that may be attached to us? Can an individual's energy break off into the astral plane, can an individual's energy leave an impact on the astral plane? Can an person create things in this dimension which can be used to assist our material world? In chrism's response, he said the astral plane is the world of thought, does that mean the astral plane is a place or medium through information is communicated psychically? Please forgive the onslaught of questions, I'm just trying to bring shape to my idea of the astral sheath or body and the plane in which it operates? A good way to know something's shape is to be aware of its boundaries, limits, possibilities. Hopefully, with more understanding, I can incorporate such interactions, which are either cloudy or unconscious, into my spiritual approach into the light. Thank you for sharing your thoughts. KB , " gleno " <gleno wrote: > > As you say KB (and I paraphrase) contemplation of most of these questions can only be at best objective guesses. Having said that, their interactions within this world can be mapped out via my own experiences and those of others which generally concur (though with minor perceptive differences brought about by societal and religious upbringing). > > According to Oxfords an entity is " a thing with distinct and independent existence. " For our purposes we will limit the interpretation to " other dimensional being. " There are many different types of these entities. Some have good intentions, some not so good whilst others are indifferent. Many are at a point in their evolution where the higher emotions are unknown to them so in actuality a lack of good intent could be considered indifference. Our interpretation of good/bad is probably limited to our physical perception of duality. > > As a species we can be extremely judgmental. An unseen entity attaches and we perceive a clandestine life energy thief! Yet a mosquito will attempt to go unnoticed to suck our blood. It is much the same thing. There are entities with limited intelligence who can easily be compared to the humble mossie. I believe they are almost as common and usually feed whilst we sleep. They even use an anesthetic of sorts to hide their presence at the point of attachment. > > Other more advanced types get into our heads. I will stop short of saying they read our mind but rather they make us use our personal fears as a method of attack. Also our thoughts can influence their actions. For example if I (even subconsciously) intend to leave the room they might jump off me. I am certain they don't understand our language or even what a room is but they do have a primal understanding of intent and action. Keep in mind the astral world is all about thought. > > There are many other varieties (including the sexual predator types). The common thread is that they are all of astral origin and therefore limited in their interactions within the physical domain. Consequently despite their differences they all use similar methods of attachment and attack. There are a few good psychic self defense books available although in a kundalini scenario I would probably suggest the advice available through this group will be sufficient to assist one through their entity plight. > > All my best, glen. > > > , " karmaburn8 " <karmaburn8@> wrote: > > > > What is the nature of such entities, that cling to the action of our intent? Another way to ask this question is, in what mode of survival are they in, what is their path or journey? > > > > In the case of the shadow, an entity (individual person) may be colored, expanded, or narrowed by their own energy patterns, but in the case of an entity attaching itself to an individual, where do they come from? These questions pertain to aspects of reality which are very subtle and ephemeral, so I realize there may not be an definitive answers. What I'm trying to contemplate is how they survive, and for what purpose? What stake do they have in what we are experiencing in our human based perception of reality? > > > > The psychological entities that individuals carry around, that present themselves in some circumstances and withdrawal in others, are more easily identified. The entities as you describe seem to be apart of a world I've yet to understand or visualize. How can one identify such entities, and if there are various types, which I imagine is probable in a universe made of life, how can one discern between them in order to appropriately respond? > > > > Thanks for the welcome, and I apologize if this question is in anyway a disruption to the shaktipat that is occurring at the moment. It is my assumption that dialogues may continue separately. I'm new to this group and am not grounded in the safeties, which I'm going to study and implement immediately. Because of this fact, I'm certain that I will not partake in the shaktipat, in light of the nature it was given. I offer my blessings to the group. > > > > KB > > > > > > > > > > , " gleno " <gleno@> wrote: > > > > > > Hello KarmaBurn and a warm welcome to our group. > > > > > > You make some insightful and fascinating observations. According to Jungian philosophy the idea of entities within the individuation process is an interesting way to interpret ourselves and although an often relevant tool for accessing our progress within our spiritual pursuits does not refer to how we interpret entities in this instance. Entities (as we refer to them) are indeed " another vibration of consciousness playing its sound " . > > > > > > Repressed aspects of our consciousness manifest as Jung's " shadow " self and will often be interpreted as something outside oneself. Therapy or careful discernment should be used to determine the origin of a perceived entity in this instance. Total honesty within ones personal appraisal should yield the answer. > > > > > > Insofar as " energy patterns floating about in other dimensions that are attracted to us through natural laws and manifest themselves as distortions in our behavior due to over or under active energy centers " this is an interesting premise and (as far as i know) one that has yet to be sufficiently investigated. I believe that the possibility exists for other dimensional energies to filter through but without consciousness (choice) existing to direct their intentions these energies are unable to interact or influence anything physical. The difference with entities though is they are conscious and therefore have choice and freewill and will attempt to influence our choice and freewill to attach and draw energy. > > > > > > Thank you again for your thoughts. > > > > > > Love, glen. > > > > > > > > > , " karmaburn8 " <karmaburn8@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Greetings everyone, > > > > > > > > This is my first post, so I would like to introduce myself and announce my support to this group and its members. My name is Zack, and I've been experiencing the kundalini for about five years now. It is an ever changing process, moving through all the dimensions of my being. I join this group with an intention to share my own experiences, ideas, dreams, and fears, and be here to support others in their own journey with the kundalini. > > > > > > > > The idea of entities is an interesting way to interpret ourselves and out interactions with the world. Entities in the astral plane is not something I completely understand. If anyone has some information on that end, I'd enjoy reading it. > > > > > > > > The primal forces of our being will create feelings of lust or sexual attraction. This is a powerful energy that both men and women experience. I've read about tantra and energy dynamics, they seem to allow this energy to express itself so the energy will recede and then rise into the next energy center, allowing the essence of the next energy to be free from the previous or lower center. When this impulse influences the mind and body, do we seperate it from our consciousness and call it an entity or is it another vibration of consciousness playing its sound? Do we refer to such a perspective arising in the mind as " entity " when we cannot connect it to ourselves? Is this the case when a repressed aspect of our consciousness manifests? > > > > > > > > Is the idea of entity employed because there are energy patterns floating about in other dimensions that are attracted to us through natural laws and manifest themselves as disortions in our behavior due to over or under active energy centers? Are these entites in their own right, or are they pieces of information which change the sum total expression of our consciousness when they are factored into our energy system? > > > > > > > > Grateful to be apart of this group. Blessings to everyone. > > > > KB > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 22, 2009 Report Share Posted March 22, 2009 Yes KB in my opinion these are all possibilities that exist for interactions with entities. In my experience there are other reasons for the interactions as well. Shamans will use such and such an entity for helping in healing and other pursuits. There are types and classifications of entities that we are familiar with in regards to spiritual help. With regard to the Kundalini it isnt typically for the purpose of winning the lottery through entity interactions but for the purpose of spiritual refinement. Does the entity achieve a Kundalini charge through the interaction? They do in my opinion but not in the same way as we receive it. Does it speed their evolution? Perhaps if they have an evolutionary path that is in alignment with the Kundalini process. It can also merely be a food for them. Symbolism is the language of the Kundalini Shakti within a person in many ways. This communication can take many forms of symbolism and by doing so does the education of the person towards the balance within the Kundalini become known. Entities of certain evolved development may also communicate in such a way. Creation is vast. Yes thoughts are a medium of creation in the astral. Yes energy will radiate into the astral and does so continuously. Yes the energy of a person can leave an imprint in the astral. To understand the astral through the mental mind by observation and opinion of its characteristics may not be an approach that will serve so well. In the OBE state one can experience many of the answers to the questions you ask in a very personal and self educating way. I would suggest that you experience this KB if you havent already. If this is not a point of experience for you at this time then I and others will offer you experiences within this subject. But reading and doing are very different scenarios. Regardless thank you for your excellent questions. - many blessings to you KB! - chrism , " karmaburn8 " <karmaburn8 wrote: > > Greetings chrism and glen, > > The windows operating system is a visual way of interacting with information, and the reality of form is pretty much the same. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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