Losing energy from relating experience

[Guest guest]

For myself I do not have these concerns of loosing the " power " of a situation

due to the telling of it. I do know that it is a valid concern for people who do

have the concern. For me I do not feel that silence is " always " golden.

 

Communication of experience can also empower the the owner of that experience by

exposing certain scenarios for others to help them understand. The more

knowledge the less fear. Certainly not all of the time and perhaps excluding

certain personal information in the relating of an exalted experience does not

require a loss of meaning or virtues or validation of the experience. Nothing

can drain it of substance for me.

 

I have heard through out my life this concern about loosing the " effect " or

power or validity of an experience for the telling of it. I feel authentic

experience cannot be changed. It has happened. This includes the dream life and

Kundalini expressive life.

 

No force of nature is going to change the outcome due to the communication of

the experience.imho.

 

Sharing of experience is very important for the understandings of such a

personal experience as the Kundalini. I invite everyone to participate and work

through any fears or any issues that would add to the preference of remaining

silent about exalted or personal experiences. We learn from eachother.

 

This is the place.

 

Do it anonymously and make up some web name and only show that name and state

your experience and feelings and understandings.

 

This communication of experience does not agree with everyone though and so

there is no pressure. It is good to also read and learn. Silence is sometimes

golden!

 

We are all walking the similar path. The Kundalini path. Shakti gives freely and

so will I continue to give of my experience for the benefit of those who may

receive it. -

[Guest guest]

The only knowledge that I trust is derived through the spirit, in that the world

moves, and through this process, the soul journeys through experiences shaped by

karma. It all goes pretty deep, and my conscious mind only has access to so

much information. It is easier to recognize the truth within and beyond change,

and allow it, through its myriad of ways, to present itself.

 

I agree that relating one's experiences are empowering to one's self and others,

there is no superstitious reason to think that speaking diminishes a power over

something. What I mean is, in some cases, speaking on something is akin to an

author revealing the meaning of a story without giving the reader an opportunity

to thoroughly examine the tale. In this example, silence allows for new

insights to emerge as individuals are free to draw their own conclusions.

 

Maybe there are others who can relate to what I am sharing, I do not know.

There is an element in my kundalini experiences which are extremely personal,

and these elements are for the benefit of my own self reflection. Yet, I'm

fully aware that I do not have dominion over the world, and what transpires in

it is shared. Any one's experience, in a way, is every one's experience, and so

many elements exist for other's to reflect on.

 

There is a quality that appears more and more in my relationships and daily

experience, and that is assuming a certain type of role. I consciously step

into various roles, determined by the context of the moment, and when I step out

of the role a dishabituation results for whomever I am interacting with. The

dishabituation happens for me, as well. This is something we all do as humans,

but I've become much more conscious of it over time. Obviously, this mechanism

of consciousness bares all sorts of fruit. Timing and awareness are of the

essence. The fire and brimstone of the ego may voice itself, or the dancing tit

for tat interaction of the personality, and many times it is the voice of god

that says exactly the right thing for that moment.

 

The kundalini is very powerful, I do not understand it. It is familiar, of

course, but its effects and applications are something I am actively learning

about everyday through trial and error. Sometimes it feels like my perspective

is spinning in circles around a mental object, other times it feels like I am

being perfectly still, and things are revolving around me. Both are probably

true, depending on what and how consciousness tunes into the moment. An object

has a set of characteristics, so I wonder what it means to say that when you

observe some 'thing', you change 'it' somehow. It might depend on the 'thing',

which could be an idea, biological process, possibly an individual or collective

pain body.

 

I am a divine spiritual being, for that I am eternally blessed. My journey or

path is unfolding out of my karmic dept, and for that I am also eternally

blessed. Both of these reasons give me strength to move forward and overcome,

and they give some explanation as to why there is a love that overflows from my

heart and into the world.

 

KB

 

 

 

 

, " chrism " <>

wrote:

>

> For myself I do not have these concerns of loosing the " power " of a situation

due to the telling of it. I do know that it is a valid concern for people who do

have the concern. For me I do not feel that silence is " always " golden.

>

> Communication of experience can also empower the the owner of that experience

by exposing certain scenarios for others to help them understand. The more

knowledge the less fear. Certainly not all of the time and perhaps excluding

certain personal information in the relating of an exalted experience does not

require a loss of meaning or virtues or validation of the experience. Nothing

can drain it of substance for me.

>

> I have heard through out my life this concern about loosing the " effect " or

power or validity of an experience for the telling of it. I feel authentic

experience cannot be changed. It has happened. This includes the dream life and

Kundalini expressive life.

>

> No force of nature is going to change the outcome due to the communication of

the experience.imho.

>

> Sharing of experience is very important for the understandings of such a

personal experience as the Kundalini. I invite everyone to participate and work

through any fears or any issues that would add to the preference of remaining

silent about exalted or personal experiences. We learn from eachother.

>

> This is the place.

>

> Do it anonymously and make up some web name and only show that name and state

your experience and feelings and understandings.

>

> This communication of experience does not agree with everyone though and so

there is no pressure. It is good to also read and learn. Silence is sometimes

golden!

>

> We are all walking the similar path. The Kundalini path. Shakti gives freely

and so will I continue to give of my experience for the benefit of those who may

receive it. -

>

[Guest guest]

It is a point of discernment really. Some things are for the person only. Others

can be shared. I wrote to let people know that it is OK to share here. That

nothing will be taken away from them for the act of sharing. Not that they must

share all or everything. - lol! - blessings to you KB! Your articulate and in my

opinion accurate response is an excellent sharing of what many may look forward

to. Love is our connective tissue. - chrism

 

 

 

, " karmaburn8 "

<karmaburn8 wrote:

they give some explanation as to why there is a love that overflows from my

heart and into the world.

>

> KB

[Guest guest]

A very beautiful post, KB. Thank you for sharing

it with us.

 

Love, dhyana

 

 

, " karmaburn8 "

<karmaburn8 wrote:

>

> The only knowledge that I trust is derived through the spirit, in that the

world moves, and through this process, the soul journeys through experiences

shaped by karma. It all goes pretty deep, and my conscious mind only has access

to so much information. It is easier to recognize the truth within and beyond

change, and allow it, through its myriad of ways, to present itself.

>

> I agree that relating one's experiences are empowering to one's self and

others, there is no superstitious reason to think that speaking diminishes a

power over something. What I mean is, in some cases, speaking on something is

akin to an author revealing the meaning of a story without giving the reader an

opportunity to thoroughly examine the tale. In this example, silence allows for

new insights to emerge as individuals are free to draw their own conclusions.

>

> Maybe there are others who can relate to what I am sharing, I do not know.

There is an element in my kundalini experiences which are extremely personal,

and these elements are for the benefit of my own self reflection. Yet, I'm

fully aware that I do not have dominion over the world, and what transpires in

it is shared. Any one's experience, in a way, is every one's experience, and so

many elements exist for other's to reflect on.

>

> There is a quality that appears more and more in my relationships and daily

experience, and that is assuming a certain type of role. I consciously step

into various roles, determined by the context of the moment, and when I step out

of the role a dishabituation results for whomever I am interacting with. The

dishabituation happens for me, as well. This is something we all do as humans,

but I've become much more conscious of it over time. Obviously, this mechanism

of consciousness bares all sorts of fruit. Timing and awareness are of the

essence. The fire and brimstone of the ego may voice itself, or the dancing tit

for tat interaction of the personality, and many times it is the voice of god

that says exactly the right thing for that moment.

>

> The kundalini is very powerful, I do not understand it. It is familiar, of

course, but its effects and applications are something I am actively learning

about everyday through trial and error. Sometimes it feels like my perspective

is spinning in circles around a mental object, other times it feels like I am

being perfectly still, and things are revolving around me. Both are probably

true, depending on what and how consciousness tunes into the moment. An object

has a set of characteristics, so I wonder what it means to say that when you

observe some 'thing', you change 'it' somehow. It might depend on the 'thing',

which could be an idea, biological process, possibly an individual or collective

pain body.

>

> I am a divine spiritual being, for that I am eternally blessed. My journey or

path is unfolding out of my karmic dept, and for that I am also eternally

blessed. Both of these reasons give me strength to move forward and overcome,

and they give some explanation as to why there is a love that overflows from my

heart and into the world.

>

> KB

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

This is a very interesting topic.

 

A little while ago I thought about this myself. I forget what triggered it but I

was in a phase where I just started to learn how to astral project, and I was

very excited about it, and was openly sharing my progress, and experiences with

the few people I still stay in contact with. Then I read something saying that

it was an expression of the ego, reduces the power of the experience, no one is

going to believe you anyway so just keep it to yourself. Then I thought about it

and realized that this is probably true. Also I noticed the type of reaction I

got from certain people like my family so I am learning to limit how much I talk

about certain things and who I mention these things to. I feel like the audience

that I am relating these experiences to does not really have any prior interest

in the subjects I was talking about anyway. I usually just get " oh, that's cool "

and a blank look. The other thing is, in this stage of my life, my life

completely revolves around my spiritual pursuits. I don't watch much TV anymore,

I don't care about pop culture, I avoid the news, I stopped using drugs, I cut

back on my social life, I rarely go out, and I work from home, so for the rest

of the time I am mostly meditating, reading about things that have to do with

meditation, kundalini, ascension, etc..., it doesn't leave a whole lot else to

talk about (exercising, detoxing, gardening, music, and not so recent movies).

 

So I try to just focus on what is going on in the other person's lives and try

to make a conversation out of that. I prefer sharing my experiences online in

places like this. At least its some kind of outlet and by sharing your

experiences here it usually helps someone else or you can relate it in a way

that would directly help someone else going through a similar situation.

 

love

 

-Matt

 

, " novalees " <dhyana

wrote:

[Guest guest]

Matt,There is a reason we are to "go into our closet and pray". Your motives were probably like mine. "Wow, I've had this amazing experience, and You should have it too." Wouldn't everyone want this. What an eye-opener. Just as you and I probably weren't ready for this at some point in our lives, we would have felt the person sharing was a bit daft. Anyway, when I align with the infinite, I find that people are drawn to me. Opportunities to share come at the right moment when I am not rushing out to "save the world". So to avoid the blank stares, giggles, and even "yeah rights", I have learned to stay internal until approached by someone with questions. As I continue to peel of layers of onion skin-like ego, I do not feel so compelled, as I know it is not mine to pick these

times.Blessings,Julie--- On Fri, 3/27/09, astraltraveler1984 <mjf84 wrote:astraltraveler1984 <mjf84 Re: Losing energy from relating experience Date: Friday, March 27, 2009, 1:28 AM

 

This is a very interesting topic.

 

A little while ago I thought about this myself. I forget what triggered it but I was in a phase where I just started to learn how to astral project, and I was very excited about it, and was openly sharing my progress, and experiences with the few people I still stay in contact with. Then I read something saying that it was an expression of the ego, reduces the power of the experience, no one is going to believe you anyway so just keep it to yourself. Then I thought about it and realized that this is probably true. Also I noticed the type of reaction I got from certain people like my family so I am learning to limit how much I talk about certain things and who I mention these things to. I feel like the audience that I am relating these experiences to does not really have any prior interest in the subjects I was talking about anyway. I usually just get "oh, that's cool" and a blank look. The other thing is, in this stage of my life, my life completely

revolves around my spiritual pursuits. I don't watch much TV anymore, I don't care about pop culture, I avoid the news, I stopped using drugs, I cut back on my social life, I rarely go out, and I work from home, so for the rest of the time I am mostly meditating, reading about things that have to do with meditation, kundalini, ascension, etc..., it doesn't leave a whole lot else to talk about (exercising, detoxing, gardening, music, and not so recent movies).

 

So I try to just focus on what is going on in the other person's lives and try to make a conversation out of that. I prefer sharing my experiences online in places like this. At least its some kind of outlet and by sharing your experiences here it usually helps someone else or you can relate it in a way that would directly help someone else going through a similar situation.

 

love

 

-Matt

 

Kundalini-Awakening -Systems- 1 , "novalees" <dhyana wrote:

[Guest guest]

Greetings KB and welcome,

 

What a fine eloquent post. Please continue sharing with us whatever your soul

urges you to. Nothing was lost to you in this post and I am sure so much was

gained by this group by your participation.

 

Blessings,

Skydancer x

 

 

, " chrism " <>

wrote:

>

> It is a point of discernment really. Some things are for the person only.

Others can be shared. I wrote to let people know that it is OK to share here.

That nothing will be taken away from them for the act of sharing. Not that they

must share all or everything. - lol! - blessings to you KB! Your articulate and

in my opinion accurate response is an excellent sharing of what many may look

forward to. Love is our connective tissue. - chrism

>

>

>

> , " karmaburn8 "

<karmaburn8@> wrote:

> they give some explanation as to why there is a love that overflows from my

heart and into the world.

> >

> > KB

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks Julie,

Yup. heheh I think you nailed it right on the head. Thanks for sharing.

love

- Matt

 

, Julie <jewelport

wrote:

>

> " Wow, I've had this amazing experience, and You should have it too. "  

Wouldn't everyone want this.  What an eye-opener. 

[Guest guest]

Matt,

 

I have to agree with Julie, and well said. I was and I guess still am in that same boat which set sail to Nirvana, and I was the only passenger. My spontaneous awakening (which I'm blessed that I had) was tremendously joyous and uplifting, that it shed all limitations and opened the door to possibilities, consciously, unconsciously, and beyond.

 

Even when speaking to some 'New Agers', they looked at me in such an envious way, like, "do you know how long I've been trying to get there and you just get it- it's just not fair!" The funny thing is that I had no idea what I had until I researched it. I started noticing and really feeling their limitations from a whole new perspective- their knowledge was based on a few books they read, the pop culture scene of "Law of Attraction", etc.

 

I cut off ties with them, took a close inventory of my friends and family, and really minimized it. I also started spending more time alone, meditating on my mountain top, looking at the clouds go by, noticing every leaf on a tree, and how gracefully birds can really fly. Oooommmm. Have you ever looked closely at a colony of ants and wondered, "how do they do what they do and how is it told to them that they have to do it and what do they do when their not doing it?" (LOL- that could be hypnotic). There's beauty everywhere you look, how a stream knows to flow to open water it such a grand way, swaying back and forth as it meanders down to open waters. And the sound, I could just sit relaxed there for days.

 

Anyway, I felt that I just had to get the word out, and yes, I too felt this urge to 'save the world.' I was speaking to family, friends, even the lady who owns the mystical shop. It took me some time to reconnect to the 'real' world as we live in it each day, with the paradox of bliss and love tugging me on the other side.

 

My recommendation: Speak only when asked to speak. It's and old one, and fits in perfectly with my experience. I have profound respect to those who are willing to share and offer advice on their experiences to guide someone down a more gentle path (my path was a little rocky). And this is the best group out there. Blessings to and the others to offer their support.

Just my two 'sense' worth.

 

Be Well and Good Night.

Ernie

 

 

 

-

Julie

Friday, March 27, 2009 6:38 AM

Re: Re: Losing energy from relating experience

 

 

 

 

 

 

Matt,There is a reason we are to "go into our closet and pray". Your motives were probably like mine. "Wow, I've had this amazing experience, and You should have it too." Wouldn't everyone want this. What an eye-opener. Just as you and I probably weren't ready for this at some point in our lives, we would have felt the person sharing was a bit daft. Anyway, when I align with the infinite, I find that people are drawn to me. Opportunities to share come at the right moment when I am not rushing out to "save the world". So to avoid the blank stares, giggles, and even "yeah rights", I have learned to stay internal until approached by someone with questions. As I continue to peel of layers of onion skin-like ego, I do not feel so compelled, as I know it is not mine to pick these times.Blessings,

Julie--- On Fri, 3/27/09, astraltraveler1984 <mjf84 (AT) comcast (DOT) net> wrote:

astraltraveler1984 <mjf84 (AT) comcast (DOT) net> Re: Losing energy from relating experience Date: Friday, March 27, 2009, 1:28 AM

 

 

This is a very interesting topic.A little while ago I thought about this myself. I forget what triggered it but I was in a phase where I just started to learn how to astral project, and I was very excited about it, and was openly sharing my progress, and experiences with the few people I still stay in contact with. Then I read something saying that it was an expression of the ego, reduces the power of the experience, no one is going to believe you anyway so just keep it to yourself. Then I thought about it and realized that this is probably true. Also I noticed the type of reaction I got from certain people like my family so I am learning to limit how much I talk about certain things and who I mention these things to. I feel like the audience that I am relating these experiences to does not really have any prior interest in the subjects I was talking about anyway. I usually just get "oh, that's cool" and a blank look. The other thing is, in this stage of my life, my life completely revolves around my spiritual pursuits. I don't watch much TV anymore, I don't care about pop culture, I avoid the news, I stopped using drugs, I cut back on my social life, I rarely go out, and I work from home, so for the rest of the time I am mostly meditating, reading about things that have to do with meditation, kundalini, ascension, etc..., it doesn't leave a whole lot else to talk about (exercising, detoxing, gardening, music, and not so recent movies).So I try to just focus on what is going on in the other person's lives and try to make a conversation out of that. I prefer sharing my experiences online in places like this. At least its some kind of outlet and by sharing your experiences here it usually helps someone else or you can relate it in a way that would directly help someone else going through a similar situation.love-MattKundalini-Awakening -Systems- 1 , "novalees" <dhyana wrote:

[Guest guest]

Thank you, Ernie. This is so beautifully written. My quirky sense of humor keeps thinking about a Kundalini Televangelist with a booming voice and great hair having thousands of people march down the aisle to ACCEPT the KUNDALINI!!! I'm a bit strange, as you all know.Blessings,Julie--- On Sat, 3/28/09, ERNIE BENEVENTI <erniebeneventi wrote:ERNIE BENEVENTI <erniebeneventiRe: Re: Losing energy from relating experience Date: Saturday,

March 28, 2009, 12:49 AM

 

 

 

Matt,

 

I have to agree with Julie, and well said. I was and I guess still am in that same boat which set sail to Nirvana, and I was the only passenger. My spontaneous awakening (which I'm blessed that I had) was tremendously joyous and uplifting, that it shed all limitations and opened the door to possibilities, consciously, unconsciously, and beyond.

 

Even when speaking to some 'New Agers', they looked at me in such an envious way, like, "do you know how long I've been trying to get there and you just get it- it's just not fair!" The funny thing is that I had no idea what I had until I researched it. I started noticing and really feeling their limitations from a whole new perspective- their knowledge was based on a few books they read, the pop culture scene of "Law of Attraction", etc.

 

I cut off ties with them, took a close inventory of my friends and family, and really minimized it. I also started spending more time alone, meditating on my mountain top, looking at the clouds go by, noticing every leaf on a tree, and how gracefully birds can really fly. Oooommmm. Have you ever looked closely at a colony of ants and wondered, "how do they do what they do and how is it told to them that they have to do it and what do they do when their not doing it?" (LOL- that could be hypnotic). There's beauty everywhere you look, how a stream knows to flow to open water it such a grand way, swaying back and forth as it meanders down to open waters. And the sound, I could just sit relaxed there for days.

 

Anyway, I felt that I just had to get the word out, and yes, I too felt this urge to 'save the world.' I was speaking to family, friends, even the lady who owns the mystical shop. It took me some time to reconnect to the 'real' world as we live in it each day, with the paradox of bliss and love tugging me on the other side.

 

My recommendation: Speak only when asked to speak. It's and old one, and fits in perfectly with my experience. I have profound respect to those who are willing to share and offer advice on their experiences to guide someone down a more gentle path (my path was a little rocky). And this is the best group out there. Blessings to and the others to offer their support.

Just my two 'sense' worth.

 

Be Well and Good Night.

Ernie

 

 

 

-

Julie

Kundalini-Awakening -Systems- 1

Friday, March 27, 2009 6:38 AM

Re: [Kundalini-Awakenin g-Systems- 1] Re: Losing energy from relating experience

 

 

 

 

 

 

Matt,There is a reason we are to "go into our closet and pray". Your motives were probably like mine. "Wow, I've had this amazing experience, and You should have it too." Wouldn't everyone want this. What an eye-opener. Just as you and I probably weren't ready for this at some point in our lives, we would have felt the person sharing was a bit daft. Anyway, when I align with the infinite, I find that people are drawn to me. Opportunities to share come at the right moment when I am not rushing out to "save the world". So to avoid the blank stares, giggles, and even "yeah rights", I have learned to stay internal until approached by someone with questions. As I continue to peel of layers of onion skin-like ego, I do not feel so compelled, as I know it is not mine to pick these times.Blessings,

Julie--- On Fri, 3/27/09, astraltraveler1984 <mjf84 (AT) comcast (DOT) net> wrote:

astraltraveler1984 <mjf84 (AT) comcast (DOT) net>[Kundalini-Awakenin g-Systems- 1] Re: Losing energy from relating experienceKundalini-Awakening -Systems- 1 Friday, March 27, 2009, 1:28 AM

 

 

This is a very interesting topic.A little while ago I thought about this myself. I forget what triggered it but I was in a phase where I just started to learn how to astral project, and I was very excited about it, and was openly sharing my progress, and experiences with the few people I still stay in contact with. Then I read something saying that it was an expression of the ego, reduces the power of the experience, no one is going to believe you anyway so just keep it to yourself. Then I thought about it and realized that this is probably true. Also I noticed the type of reaction I got from certain people like my family so I am learning to limit how much I talk about certain things and who I mention these things to. I feel like the audience that I am relating these experiences to does not really have any prior interest in the subjects I was talking about anyway. I usually just get "oh, that's cool" and a blank look. The other thing is, in this stage of my life, my life completely revolves around my spiritual pursuits. I don't watch much TV anymore, I don't care about pop culture, I avoid the news, I stopped using drugs, I cut back on my social life, I rarely go out, and I work from home, so for the rest of the time I am mostly meditating, reading about things that have to do with meditation, kundalini, ascension, etc..., it doesn't leave a whole lot else to talk about (exercising, detoxing, gardening, music, and not so recent movies).So I try to just focus on what is going on in the other person's lives and try to make a conversation out of that. I prefer sharing my experiences online in places like this. At least its some kind of outlet and by sharing your experiences here it usually helps someone else or you can relate it in a way that would directly help someone else going through a similar situation.love-MattKundalini-Awakening -Systems- 1 , "novalees" <dhyana wrote:

[Guest guest]

LOL! Julie, that was quite the image. Hehe! But not so hard for me to imagine

though, since I just watched a video yesterday of a Televangelist doing just

that very thing! He was tranfering the Holy Spirit onto these teenagers and they

were all ending up on the floor doing kriyas. When I recieved the Holy Spirit, I

do not recall doing any of that threshing about on the floor bit, but I was

taking really out there to no mind land in bliss and peace, so there is no

telling what my physical body could have been doing at the time..I was not even

aware of my physical body for a long while afterward.

 

Linda

 

, Julie <jewelport

wrote:

>

> Thank you, Ernie.  This is so beautifully written.  My quirky sense of humor

keeps thinking about a Kundalini Televangelist with a booming voice and great

hair having thousands of people march down the aisle to ACCEPT the KUNDALINI!!!

I'm a bit strange, as you all know.

>

> Blessings,

>

> Julie

>

> --- On Sat, 3/28/09, ERNIE BENEVENTI <erniebeneventi wrote:

> ERNIE BENEVENTI <erniebeneventi

> Re: Re: Losing energy from relating

experience

>

> Saturday, March 28, 2009, 12:49 AM

[Guest guest]

Thanks Julie.

Strange....that's all about perspective....let's go for unique. LOL

 

Blessings,

Ernie

 

-

Julie

Saturday, March 28, 2009 8:53 AM

Re: Re: Losing energy from relating experience

 

 

 

 

 

 

Thank you, Ernie. This is so beautifully written. My quirky sense of humor keeps thinking about a Kundalini Televangelist with a booming voice and great hair having thousands of people march down the aisle to ACCEPT the KUNDALINI!!! I'm a bit strange, as you all know.Blessings,

Julie--- On Sat, 3/28/09, ERNIE BENEVENTI <erniebeneventi (AT) sympatico (DOT) ca> wrote:

ERNIE BENEVENTI <erniebeneventi (AT) sympatico (DOT) ca>Re: Re: Losing energy from relating experience Date: Saturday, March 28, 2009, 12:49 AM

 

 

 

 

Matt,

 

I have to agree with Julie, and well said. I was and I guess still am in that same boat which set sail to Nirvana, and I was the only passenger. My spontaneous awakening (which I'm blessed that I had) was tremendously joyous and uplifting, that it shed all limitations and opened the door to possibilities, consciously, unconsciously, and beyond.

 

Even when speaking to some 'New Agers', they looked at me in such an envious way, like, "do you know how long I've been trying to get there and you just get it- it's just not fair!" The funny thing is that I had no idea what I had until I researched it. I started noticing and really feeling their limitations from a whole new perspective- their knowledge was based on a few books they read, the pop culture scene of "Law of Attraction", etc.

 

I cut off ties with them, took a close inventory of my friends and family, and really minimized it. I also started spending more time alone, meditating on my mountain top, looking at the clouds go by, noticing every leaf on a tree, and how gracefully birds can really fly. Oooommmm. Have you ever looked closely at a colony of ants and wondered, "how do they do what they do and how is it told to them that they have to do it and what do they do when their not doing it?" (LOL- that could be hypnotic). There's beauty everywhere you look, how a stream knows to flow to open water it such a grand way, swaying back and forth as it meanders down to open waters. And the sound, I could just sit relaxed there for days.

 

Anyway, I felt that I just had to get the word out, and yes, I too felt this urge to 'save the world.' I was speaking to family, friends, even the lady who owns the mystical shop. It took me some time to reconnect to the 'real' world as we live in it each day, with the paradox of bliss and love tugging me on the other side.

 

My recommendation: Speak only when asked to speak. It's and old one, and fits in perfectly with my experience. I have profound respect to those who are willing to share and offer advice on their experiences to guide someone down a more gentle path (my path was a little rocky). And this is the best group out there. Blessings to and the others to offer their support.

Just my two 'sense' worth.

 

Be Well and Good Night.

Ernie

 

 

 

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Julie

Kundalini-Awakening -Systems- 1

Friday, March 27, 2009 6:38 AM

Re: [Kundalini-Awakenin g-Systems- 1] Re: Losing energy from relating experience

 

 

 

 

 

 

Matt,There is a reason we are to "go into our closet and pray". Your motives were probably like mine. "Wow, I've had this amazing experience, and You should have it too." Wouldn't everyone want this. What an eye-opener. Just as you and I probably weren't ready for this at some point in our lives, we would have felt the person sharing was a bit daft. Anyway, when I align with the infinite, I find that people are drawn to me. Opportunities to share come at the right moment when I am not rushing out to "save the world". So to avoid the blank stares, giggles, and even "yeah rights", I have learned to stay internal until approached by someone with questions. As I continue to peel of layers of onion skin-like ego, I do not feel so compelled, as I know it is not mine to pick these times.Blessings,

Julie--- On Fri, 3/27/09, astraltraveler1984 <mjf84 (AT) comcast (DOT) net> wrote:

astraltraveler1984 <mjf84 (AT) comcast (DOT) net>[Kundalini-Awakenin g-Systems- 1] Re: Losing energy from relating experienceKundalini-Awakening -Systems- 1 Friday, March 27, 2009, 1:28 AM

 

 

This is a very interesting topic.A little while ago I thought about this myself. I forget what triggered it but I was in a phase where I just started to learn how to astral project, and I was very excited about it, and was openly sharing my progress, and experiences with the few people I still stay in contact with. Then I read something saying that it was an expression of the ego, reduces the power of the experience, no one is going to believe you anyway so just keep it to yourself. Then I thought about it and realized that this is probably true. Also I noticed the type of reaction I got from certain people like my family so I am learning to limit how much I talk about certain things and who I mention these things to. I feel like the audience that I am relating these experiences to does not really have any prior interest in the subjects I was talking about anyway. I usually just get "oh, that's cool" and a blank look. The other thing is, in this stage of my life, my life completely revolves around my spiritual pursuits. I don't watch much TV anymore, I don't care about pop culture, I avoid the news, I stopped using drugs, I cut back on my social life, I rarely go out, and I work from home, so for the rest of the time I am mostly meditating, reading about things that have to do with meditation, kundalini, ascension, etc..., it doesn't leave a whole lot else to talk about (exercising, detoxing, gardening, music, and not so recent movies).So I try to just focus on what is going on in the other person's lives and try to make a conversation out of that. I prefer sharing my experiences online in places like this. At least its some kind of outlet and by sharing your experiences here it usually helps someone else or you can relate it in a way that would directly help someone else going through a similar situation.love-MattKundalini-Awakening -Systems- 1 , "novalees" <dhyana wrote: