5 Tibetans w/ Breath of Fire

[Guest guest]

Would it be a good idea to incorporate the Kundalini yoga breath of fire

technique into my regular 5 Tibetans routine?

While I do all the 5 Tibetans I would be simulateneously doing the breath of

fire non-stop until I'm done.(I tried it several times, its very difficult but

it is doable.)

Would that maximize the effect of the 5 Tibetans or is this overkill?

[Guest guest]

Definitely overkill. What is the rush? Storming the gates of heaven can bring

retribution from those very gates. The ego consciousness cannot understand why

time is needed in order to have and to hold what it wants. All it knows is that

it wants it now!

 

I will suggest slow and deliberate progress towards the Kundalini. This will act

as a conditioning of the emotional and mental and psychological(ego) and

physical expressions.

 

You are not alone in this my friend. There are those here who feel that all of

their problems will " go away " if only they can awaken the Kundalini. This is not

my experience with the Kundalini. Only when balance has been prepared for and is

as close as it can held can this " idea " be given merit.

 

Kundalini syndrome (google it) is a real and viable danger for those who rush

into the Kundalini. It can be stunning in its ability to turn your life and your

reality inside out and outside in. Phantom pain without known source is a common

experience. Every day of the week and month and year for the rest of the life a

person can merely strive to pick up where they left off before forcing the

Kundalini in and upon themselves. Ego is not always ready for the sudden death

of its known reality.

 

Today I moved five thousand honey bees with my hands. If I move quickly they are

agitated and they will sting. If I move slowly they are able to adjust and they

do not sting. I moved slowly.

 

Kundalini can be seen in this light.

 

Please be careful my friend in how you perceive and devise ways to attain your

" desires " . Let yourself be changed inside of a process that allows your five

bodies of expression the ability to be first consciously transformed into

vessels able to carry the intensity of the Holy Fire. Let your understandings be

increased via your meditations. Let your emotions be balanced via forgiveness

and tolerance. Let your body be conditioned by diligence within the practice and

patience. Go " out of body " and consult with your guidance there.

 

Kundalini can burn as well as give bliss. It is my hope that you will have the

best of experiences! Not saying that breath of fire mixed with the Tibetans is

the sure way to have the Kundalini expression. It is not. It can damage the

endocrine system by forcing it to hold a charge it is not yet ready to hold. Chi

being the energetic particle involved. The last time I checked endocrine systems

are hard to come by.

 

I am merely saying that there is more to learn and understand about impatience

and conditioning before one walks into a fire. But the choice is yours and there

is no guarantee of success or failure in this regard. - blessings to you however

you decide. - chrism

 

 

, " astraltraveler1984 "

<mjf84 wrote:

>Would that maximize the effect of the 5 Tibetans or is this overkill?

>

[Guest guest]

Wow,

Ok, oops. Yea I actually thought this would be reducing any blockages or

obstacles for the Kundalini. I was under the impression that the fire breathing

was done for the soul purpose to allow the Kundalini to run smoothly by clearing

blockages. I guess at the same time that might be the same as breaking a levy

and releasing a flood of holy power before I am ready to work with it properly!

 

I guess I need to chill a little bit before I get myself into trouble. I will

take your advice though. Its a good thing I asked... Thanks.

 

love,

 

Matt

 

, " chrism " <>

wrote:

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> Definitely overkill. What is the rush? Storming the gates of heaven can bring

retribution from those very gates. The ego consciousness cannot understand why

time is needed in order to have and to hold what it wants. All it knows is that

it wants it now!

[Guest guest]

Or you may wish to see it also as the holy power being able to work with you

before the temple is ready to hold it.

 

Reducing blockages comes from balancing them before the Kundalini gets there.

This is what forgiveness and tolerance to for the emotional conditioning. Also

the five Tibetans and yoga and many of the other practices that people work with

for physical conditioning before the Kundalini.

 

I do see its expression for you in the not distant future Matt. So yes a good

time to start on the blockages is now. The safeties themselves are a stand alone

process of Kundalini activation. And they work for very similar reasons that you

were considering the breath of fire to cover. - blessings Matt - chrism

 

 

, " astraltraveler1984 "

<mjf84 wrote:

>

Wow,Ok, oops. Yea I actually thought this would be reducing any blockages

[Guest guest]

, "chrism" <> wrote:>> Definitely overkill. What is the rush? Storming the gates of heaven can bring retribution from those very gates. The ego consciousness cannot understand why time is needed in order to have and to hold what it wants. All it knows is that it wants it now!> > I will suggest slow and deliberate progress towards the Kundalini. This will act as a conditioning of the emotional and mental and psychological(ego) and physical expressions. > > You are not alone in this my friend. There are those here who feel that all of their problems will "go away" if only they can awaken the Kundalini. This is not my experience with the Kundalini. Only when balance has been prepared for and is as close as it can held can this "idea" be given merit.> > Kundalini syndrome (google it) is a real and viable danger for those who rush into the Kundalini. It can be stunning in its ability to turn your life and your reality inside out and outside in. Phantom pain without known source is a common experience. Every day of the week and month and year for the rest of the life a person can merely strive to pick up where they left off before forcing the Kundalini in and upon themselves. Ego is not always ready for the sudden death of its known reality. I stormed the gates of Heaven and it's taken me almost a year to get back to where I was before the Kundalini. And this was only an activation not an awakening. Before the activation I was a champion at mindfulness, I actually found it quite easy. I also had good control of my thoughts and just felt grateful for everything in my life even though my life had failed in the outer circumstances. Then I became activated and kept doing what I was doing to rouse more and more of the Shakti energy because there were no visions nor lights nor any indescribable bliss. And so my plunge into hell began. It became really hard to even be mindful of 3 breaths! I lost any since of gratitude and had a very hard time (and most of the time I couldn't) look on the brightside of things. I finally found this group and started practcing the safeties which brought me to a higher vibrational frequency but then my mind came in and said that this is to simple, I don't know how to forgive, I must find out how. And thus I wasted a lot of time searching for 'methods' to forgive someone and my current situation. I started to sink back into hell but not too far. And so about 3 weeks ago I finally went back to my routine of morning and night practicing of forgiveness and gratitude and periodically throughout the day (and trusting the simplicity of it), realizing that my mind loves to search and doesn't want to find what it's looking for because that means the end of the search. And now I feel grateful for even the so called bad in my life for taking me deeper into the mystery and for it's teachings. I find for myself that I first need to be in a forgiving frequency before I can be grateful and see the brighter side of things. And then once I'm grateful, inner joy arises from deep within and I begin to feel free of the past pain and future worry. Well just wanted to share that. Storming the gates of Heaven for me created a just as intense opposing force that has been a slow climb back up. But I feel like I'm almost back to the frequency I was at before with more wisdom.craig> Today I moved five thousand honey bees with my hands. If I move quickly they are agitated and they will sting. If I move slowly they are able to adjust and they do not sting. I moved slowly.> > Kundalini can be seen in this light.> > Please be careful my friend in how you perceive and devise ways to attain your "desires". Let yourself be changed inside of a process that allows your five bodies of expression the ability to be first consciously transformed into vessels able to carry the intensity of the Holy Fire. Let your understandings be increased via your meditations. Let your emotions be balanced via forgiveness and tolerance. Let your body be conditioned by diligence within the practice and patience. Go "out of body" and consult with your guidance there.> > Kundalini can burn as well as give bliss. It is my hope that you will have the best of experiences! Not saying that breath of fire mixed with the Tibetans is the sure way to have the Kundalini expression. It is not. It can damage the endocrine system by forcing it to hold a charge it is not yet ready to hold. Chi being the energetic particle involved. The last time I checked endocrine systems are hard to come by.> > I am merely saying that there is more to learn and understand about impatience and conditioning before one walks into a fire. But the choice is yours and there is no guarantee of success or failure in this regard. - blessings to you however you decide. - chrism> > > , "astraltraveler1984" mjf84@ wrote:> >Would that maximize the effect of the 5 Tibetans or is this overkill?> >>