Guest guest Posted March 27, 2009 Report Share Posted March 27, 2009 This may be a weird question but, as my K was spontanously activated without really seeking it, does one still experience physical/emotional purification symptoms regardless of the preparation for or balance aspect of the body through practices beforehand? would it just be a matter of degree?? As for myself, I had been practicing yoga for 14 years prior to K erupting and I tried to continue on but it became more & more activated to the point I couldn't relax, sleep, etc. so now I take long walks & do very little yoga other than some gentle or restive poses as I feel drawn to do. blessings, Jan , " kundaflame " <kundaflame wrote: > > > , " chrism " > <@> wrote: > > > > Definitely overkill. What is the rush? Storming the gates of heaven > can bring retribution from those very gates. The ego consciousness > cannot understand why time is needed in order to have and to hold what > it wants. All it knows is that it wants it now! > > > > I will suggest slow and deliberate progress towards the Kundalini. > This will act as a conditioning of the emotional and mental and > psychological(ego) and physical expressions. > > > > You are not alone in this my friend. There are those here who feel > that all of their problems will " go away " if only they can awaken the > Kundalini. This is not my experience with the Kundalini. Only when > balance has been prepared for and is as close as it can held can this > " idea " be given merit. > > > > Kundalini syndrome (google it) is a real and viable danger for those > who rush into the Kundalini. It can be stunning in its ability to turn > your life and your reality inside out and outside in. Phantom pain > without known source is a common experience. Every day of the week and > month and year for the rest of the life a person can merely strive to > pick up where they left off before forcing the Kundalini in and upon > themselves. Ego is not always ready for the sudden death of its known > reality. > > I stormed the gates of Heaven and it's taken me almost a year to get > back to where I was before the Kundalini. And this was only an > activation not an awakening. Before the activation I was a champion at > mindfulness, I actually found it quite easy. I also had good control of > my thoughts and just felt grateful for everything in my life even though > my life had failed in the outer circumstances. Then I became activated > and kept doing what I was doing to rouse more and more of the Shakti > energy because there were no visions nor lights nor any indescribable > bliss. And so my plunge into hell began. It became really hard to even > be mindful of 3 breaths! I lost any since of gratitude and had a very > hard time (and most of the time I couldn't) look on the brightside of > things. I finally found this group and started practcing the safeties > which brought me to a higher vibrational frequency but then my mind came > in and said that this is to simple, I don't know how to forgive, I must > find out how. And thus I wasted a lot of time searching for 'methods' to > forgive someone and my current situation. I started to sink back into > hell but not too far. And so about 3 weeks ago I finally went back to my > routine of morning and night practicing of forgiveness and gratitude and > periodically throughout the day (and trusting the simplicity of it), > realizing that my mind loves to search and doesn't want to find what > it's looking for because that means the end of the search. And now I > feel grateful for even the so called bad in my life for taking me deeper > into the mystery and for it's teachings. I find for myself that I first > need to be in a forgiving frequency before I can be grateful and see the > brighter side of things. And then once I'm grateful, inner joy arises > from deep within and I begin to feel free of the past pain and future > worry. Well just wanted to share that. Storming the gates of Heaven for > me created a just as intense opposing force that has been a slow climb > back up. But I feel like I'm almost back to the frequency I was at > before with more wisdom. > craig > > > Today I moved five thousand honey bees with my hands. If I move > quickly they are agitated and they will sting. If I move slowly they are > able to adjust and they do not sting. I moved slowly. > > > > Kundalini can be seen in this light. > > > > Please be careful my friend in how you perceive and devise ways to > attain your " desires " . Let yourself be changed inside of a process that > allows your five bodies of expression the ability to be first > consciously transformed into vessels able to carry the intensity of the > Holy Fire. Let your understandings be increased via your meditations. > Let your emotions be balanced via forgiveness and tolerance. Let your > body be conditioned by diligence within the practice and patience. Go > " out of body " and consult with your guidance there. > > > > Kundalini can burn as well as give bliss. It is my hope that you will > have the best of experiences! Not saying that breath of fire mixed with > the Tibetans is the sure way to have the Kundalini expression. It is > not. It can damage the endocrine system by forcing it to hold a charge > it is not yet ready to hold. Chi being the energetic particle involved. > The last time I checked endocrine systems are hard to come by. > > > > I am merely saying that there is more to learn and understand about > impatience and conditioning before one walks into a fire. But the choice > is yours and there is no guarantee of success or failure in this regard. > - blessings to you however you decide. - chrism > > > > > > , > " astraltraveler1984 " mjf84@ wrote: > > >Would that maximize the effect of the 5 Tibetans or is this overkill? > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 27, 2009 Report Share Posted March 27, 2009 Yes Jan. We all come with different Karma and this will also need to be factored into the Kundalini equation for an individual. We can do as much purification as the conscious intending mind can do and this will balance some of the elements of our awakening and help us with tools to navigate some of those that come through Karma. We are more than the total of our current existence. Yes Jan there will be more balancing and purification needed whether or not one has purified themselves through yoga or the safeties or a lifetime of goodness. Kundalini is a gift to the bodies of expression and yet to hold that gift a certain level of divine frequency must be held by all of these bodies. This will involve changing the bodies through transformation into vessels that can complete this task. Often with transformation comes severe change. This change can feel as if a great purging is being committed upon the body. And this may indeed be the fact. Yet in the purging of qualities out of harmony with the Kundalini imperative do we establish that imperative within us. In the physical body within this incarnation we will continue to adjust to the " new reality " of our awakened self/selves. We will continuously be changing and balancing the Kundalini agenda with the outer societal agenda. Society and the customs and expectations that we are raised inside of come with certain factors that need balancing. A working balance will be found and from that balance will a greater expression be experienced from the Kundalini. So yes Jan there is more to do and farther to go. We can practice activities that will smooth the way and that will make certain aspects of the change easier to accomplish for the conscious mind and yet we do not remove the needed changes from our experience because of these practices. - , " Jan " <drjandean wrote: > > This may be a weird question but, as my K was spontanously activated without really seeking it, does one still experience physical/emotional purification symptoms regardless of the preparation for or balance aspect of the body through practices beforehand? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 27, 2009 Report Share Posted March 27, 2009 Thanks Chrism I really appreciate your thoughtful response and all you do here. Love & blessings, Jan , " chrism " <> wrote: > > Yes Jan. > We all come with different Karma and this will also need to be factored into the Kundalini equation for an individual. We can do as much purification as the conscious intending mind can do and this will balance some of the elements of our awakening and help us with tools to navigate some of those that come through Karma. > > We are more than the total of our current existence. > > Yes Jan there will be more balancing and purification needed whether or not one has purified themselves through yoga or the safeties or a lifetime of goodness. Kundalini is a gift to the bodies of expression and yet to hold that gift a certain level of divine frequency must be held by all of these bodies. This will involve changing the bodies through transformation into vessels that can complete this task. > > Often with transformation comes severe change. This change can feel as if a great purging is being committed upon the body. And this may indeed be the fact. Yet in the purging of qualities out of harmony with the Kundalini imperative do we establish that imperative within us. > > In the physical body within this incarnation we will continue to adjust to the " new reality " of our awakened self/selves. We will continuously be changing and balancing the Kundalini agenda with the outer societal agenda. Society and the customs and expectations that we are raised inside of come with certain factors that need balancing. A working balance will be found and from that balance will a greater expression be experienced from the Kundalini. > > So yes Jan there is more to do and farther to go. We can practice activities that will smooth the way and that will make certain aspects of the change easier to accomplish for the conscious mind and yet we do not remove the needed changes from our experience because of these practices. - > > > , " Jan " <drjandean@> wrote: > > > > This may be a weird question but, as my K was spontanously activated without really seeking it, does one still experience physical/emotional purification symptoms regardless of the preparation for or balance aspect of the body through practices beforehand? > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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