the finish line, the grand finally, the holy grail of experiences, -Angelina

[Guest guest]

Angelina,

 

To me the Holy Grail is the opening of the crown chakra, that then becomes a

like cup, or a crown of flames as the liquid light the Shekhinah, the Holy

Spirt, Shakti and Shiva uniting, flows down into the pillar of Light, the

Antahkarana. This is shown symbolically in the Rider Waite tarot as the ace of

cups. This is the Holy Grail in my experience, illusionary or not, real or

unreal as the case may be.

 

Still I may be wrong and confused, as this is not the end of the journey, (that

had no beginning)as I believe so we have been led to believe by some schools of

thought such as Zen and also in Hinduism Advaita Vedanta, that Nirvana is

nothingness, emptyness... and Samadhi, Cosmic Consciouisness, Christ and Buddhic

consciousness, call it what name one will, this too is to be transcended, as the

bliss states experienced from these levels of consciousness can be the hardest

thing to let go of..... There must be no attachments, not even to God, and then

the Self is realized, and duality ends, no beginning and no end,

nothing............

 

I am only too happy to be told and guided otherwise, if my belief's are wrong or

incorrect. I am only a student, and still learning, thank you.

 

loving kindness~jeremy

 

 

 

What is the Holy Grail to you? ~ Angelina

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<gypsyeyes_101@> wrote:

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> > > When all ego is gone and no more duality, when all you are is God

consciousness is that the I hit bingo!!!!! You made it to the end of the

journey achievement?

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> > The journey is for infinity elektra . . .

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> > , Elektra Fire

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> > > I don't think infinity has an end to it, that of which you speak would be

merely the beginning of our next point of existance. It certainly is an

achievement but if you think about it all you are doing is seeing the truth,

then off you can go and exist within an expanded awareness.

> > > love and blessings

> > > elektra x x x

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> > > When all ego is gone and no more duality, when all you are is God

consciousness is that the I hit bingo!!!!!  You made it to the end of the

journey achievement?

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[Guest guest]

Hello all,

 

The image I have of the enlightened state is a system that is pulled into order by a flow of high frequency vibration. The different aspects of the system, its various structures, align with and are shaped by the flow. The pain of purification seems to be the breaking up of old structures by the pull into a higher order. Cycles of high energy and rest help us reach a point where the structures become drawn in and safely absorbed into a sustained flow. Is enlightenment the ultimate induction, whereby our structures fall or stack into a perfect hierarchy of consciousness, or does it just appear that way from our current perspectives? I've read about 5th, 6th, 7th dimensional consciousness, different octaves of existence, and so on.

 

Mechanics of the mind and the activity of the emotional body, what new behavior do they take on after enlightenment? Many people feel that enlightenment occurs and you rise above to a new vibrational sheath where a higher awareness allows a purer manifestation of will. The behavior of the lower bodies continue, but the self is no longer entangled in their on goings. The life of the lower bodies are offered up to the light, used as a point of operation, sacrificed or transmuted. The other common idea I've come across is a total absorption. The energy is absolutely encompassing, everything becomes still, the bodies become dead to the old world, the maya, lila, karmic journeys, and the shell of the system come to embody a new world.

 

The first idea of enlightenment is easier to relate to because we are familiar with human qualities. Thoughts and emotions are there, but beyond their duality exists a life of consciousness. The second idea is something I cannot put my mind around. How does such a mind and body behave? In order to know or understand such a way of being, does something in our DNA or chakras have to activate? Just as a child cannot fathom abstract reasoning, how can I envision the wondrous perspectives and abilities of an enlightened soul?

 

The post above is a communication of information. We experience it both as a message from one to all but also as a manifestation of oneness. It is two sides of a river, but also the bridge. I make no strong conclusions about enlightenment, and entertain them playfully with joy. For all I know, the reality I am experiencing is a manifestation of enlightened consciousness, held together by perfect will power. Within the enlightened consciousness could be mirror aspects interacting amongst themselves, and because the self is in everything, all of the aspects feel they are alive and real. We are having a dream, and within that dream wake up to another dream, from that dream we are lucid dreaming. From the shock of the lucid dream, consciousness rises to a dream of waking reality. I mention this in closing because no matter what, there is a wonderful peace no matter where we are. As we have read many times, we are already THAT. However we

qualify our selves, no matter where we go there we are.

 

Many thanks to the group, for the warm welcome and for being there to share this journey.

KB