Emapthetic Praying

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As I go to bed, I pray a length prayer which includes friends and relatives that

have passed on. As I pray their names, I image them standing beside me, touching

my arm/shoulder, saying something to me, and even smell their fragerance that I

recall- I use all the modalities that are associated with the person. I do the

same for God, Jesus, Saints, Archangels, etc. I really get into a deep, deep

state of prayer/meditation.

One night in particular, I was praying for Rita, who passed on @ 35 from a large

brain tumour. She left a husband and 3 children behind (the youngest 2).

For a long moment (15 mins), I felt her pain, both physically and emotionally. I

instantly got a headache, and my heart chakra grew so large with the emotional

state that she was faced with before her passing. She knew she was passing and

was only a matter of time. I started to cry her helpless tears.

Was this only a manifestation of my prayer or do you think that Rita actually

was there, passing the experience onto me to learn, or both.

It was such a real empathetic emotional state that I felt and the headache

lasted for about a week. I cleared my chakras about a week later and the

physical feeling dissolved.

Was I flying into unchartered territory that could have been dangerous? I am an

empathetic person, and have known to take on other's physical pain. But where

does the energy go? Any takers?

 

On another note of lately. I've noticed that my breathing has become more

'silky' (best way of describling it). At times, my breathing was rigid or cold

or warm or hot or just airy. Now it's like it really fills my body, mind and my

soul.

 

Be Well and Peace to Your Heart

Ernie

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Hello,

 

I think that our system is an impersonal vessel. Depending on the level of concentration and how open our energy is to express itself, it would seem that we could reproduce the experience of another person quite easily. has mentioned before that removing the influence of our own ego is important, so it doesn't filter its own processes into the experience. You very well could have, through the unity of love, and the knowledge of her life, resurrected her consciousness in a way. Do she speak to you while you were in that state? During the peak of her suffering could you feel her go over the edge and fall into an abyss of wisdom and joy? Was there any message that she communicated to you in either thought or word that you could share with her family or the world? My take on this is, whenever you spend time around her family and hug her children and watch over them, a part of her will be too.

 

This reminds me of the Native Americans, Shamans, Mediums, and the like, who seem to already process energy on some level in a very pure way. As if some area of there being there is a house, with no one's personal pictures or life story impressions. It is just a space where others are welcome..

 

We use this email as a forum for consciousness to connect and commune, but there is no reason why we can't, through the use of will power, create a forum in our own minds where two or more points of consciousness can commune. It probably happens now already, but the process is sort of mucky and unclear. The dream world or astral plane is probably the most effective place for these interactions, but that doesn't mean we can't establish such a connection in our waking state. If one could imagine and sustain an environment of there choosing, why couldn't it be a space in which we could host a gathering. If others could connect to that space, through the innate wisdom of nature, and sustain the environment in their own mind, they could participate. One could even have access to all of the sense perceptions in the experience.

 

Because of this, I would say that she very well could have been there, communing with you in whatever way she could. She could be some where else, another realm or plane, perhaps in the womb of her new mother, yet her higher self was able to establish the connection through distance and time by the unlimited power of love.

 

Thank you for your thought-provoking questions.

 

KB

 

 

 

boltonben111 <erniebeneventi Sent: Thursday, April 9, 2009 12:55:39 PM Emapthetic Praying

 

As I go to bed, I pray a length prayer which includes friends and relatives that have passed on. As I pray their names, I image them standing beside me, touching my arm/shoulder, saying something to me, and even smell their fragerance that I recall- I use all the modalities that are associated with the person. I do the same for God, Jesus, Saints, Archangels, etc. I really get into a deep, deep state of prayer/meditation.One night in particular, I was praying for Rita, who passed on @ 35 from a large brain tumour. She left a husband and 3 children behind (the youngest 2). For a long moment (15 mins), I felt her pain, both physically and emotionally. I instantly got a headache, and my heart chakra grew so large with the emotional state that she was faced with before her passing. She knew she was passing and was only a matter of time. I started to cry her helpless tears.Was this only a manifestation of my prayer or do you think that Rita

actually was there, passing the experience onto me to learn, or both.It was such a real empathetic emotional state that I felt and the headache lasted for about a week. I cleared my chakras about a week later and the physical feeling dissolved.Was I flying into unchartered territory that could have been dangerous? I am an empathetic person, and have known to take on other's physical pain. But where does the energy go? Any takers?On another note of lately. I've noticed that my breathing has become more 'silky' (best way of describling it). At times, my breathing was rigid or cold or warm or hot or just airy. Now it's like it really fills my body, mind and my soul. Be Well and Peace to Your HeartErnie

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Zack,

 

Thanks for your words of true wisdom and knowledge. You wrote it quite poetically- thanks.

When the 'connection' of the consciousness occurred, she was standing near my bed and communicating through her heart to mine- no words were exchanged. I did feel her pain as she was preparing for her fate, and it was an extremely amplified feeling- one that I cannot ever forget in my lifetime.

 

Eddie (husband) has become distant since she past, as he has been in and out of various relationships- God Bless, has his hands filled, playing the two roles. I knew Eddie from a hockey team I played on, and Rita would come out to watch; I met the kids at the funeral, and bless them, they were so understanding of the situation at that time (I don't think the little one knew exactly what was going on, but, knowing Eddie, I'm sure he made every effort). The only message I received from Rita, was to contact Eddie and have lunch or do something like that- he'd like that. I'm unsure if this was my own manifestation or Rita- something to ponder.

 

When I go into a meditative state, I go down really, really deep. Nothing around me exists, except for the manifestations that I create or want to work on. As I am trained in hypnosis, for me, I find easy go into this state of (un) consciousness. I assure you that I am not 'yet' at Nirvana-LOL.

 

As far as meditation goes, and when I bring in all the modalities, I find each time becomes very unique and almost symbolic, like there's a message for me. I want to wonder where my mind wants to take me, versus no thought at all, as I find that my Ego gets involved. I truly surrender it all to the universe, to God, to K, the source, etc. If I had it my way, I would meditate all day long, in a 'Zen' room, filled with plants, water features, the gentle warmth of the sun on the soft natural tile. With the windows open, I could only hear the wind and the birds, singing their song. OOOmmmmm.

 

Be Well,

Ernie

 

P.S. Could you please clear up the "KB" for me?

 

 

 

 

 

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Zack Nemeth

Thursday, April 09, 2009 2:39 PM

Re: Emapthetic Praying

 

 

 

 

Hello,

 

I think that our system is an impersonal vessel. Depending on the level of concentration and how open our energy is to express itself, it would seem

[Guest guest]

Ernie,

 

You are most welcome, and I'm privaliged to be able to participate in such discussions. Thanks for your great share.

 

In regards to "KB", I assume you are asking what it means or why it's signed at the end of a post. It is just my email address in short, karmaburn. I chose karmaburn as my address because it is a great way to convey my experience of the kundalini, and what the kundalini experience probably is like in general. I will include a sketch (or try to), as it is a very simple yet intuitive expression of what my awakening experience has been like.

 

http://i568.photobucket.com/albums/ss130/karmaburn8/l_2d9992633f30771faa2c61772636b4f2.jpg

 

 

Warm Regards

KB (karmaburn)

 

P.S. Don't know why, but my emails came up previously as karmaburn8 but out of nowhere listed as Zack Nemeth.

 

 

 

ERNIE BENEVENTI <erniebeneventi Sent: Thursday, April 9, 2009 3:52:56 PMRe: Emapthetic Praying

 

 

 

Zack,

 

Thanks for your words of true wisdom and knowledge. You wrote it quite poetically- thanks.

When the 'connection' of the consciousness occurred, she was standing near my bed and communicating through her heart to mine- no words were exchanged. I did feel her pain as she was preparing for her fate, and it was an extremely amplified feeling- one that I cannot ever forget in my lifetime.

 

Eddie (husband) has become distant since she past, as he has been in and out of various relationships- God Bless, has his hands filled, playing the two roles. I knew Eddie from a hockey team I played on, and Rita would come out to watch; I met the kids at the funeral, and bless them, they were so understanding of the situation at that time (I don't think the little one knew exactly what was going on, but, knowing Eddie, I'm sure he made every effort). The only message I received from Rita, was to contact Eddie and have lunch or do something like that- he'd like that. I'm unsure if this was my own manifestation or Rita- something to ponder.

 

When I go into a meditative state, I go down really, really deep. Nothing around me exists, except for the manifestations that I create or want to work on. As I am trained in hypnosis, for me, I find easy go into this state of (un) consciousness. I assure you that I am not 'yet' at Nirvana-LOL.

 

As far as meditation goes, and when I bring in all the modalities, I find each time becomes very unique and almost symbolic, like there's a message for me. I want to wonder where my mind wants to take me, versus no thought at all, as I find that my Ego gets involved. I truly surrender it all to the universe, to God, to K, the source, etc. If I had it my way, I would meditate all day long, in a 'Zen' room, filled with plants, water features, the gentle warmth of the sun on the soft natural tile. With the windows open, I could only hear the wind and the birds, singing their song. OOOmmmmm.

 

Be Well,

Ernie

 

P.S. Could you please clear up the "KB" for me?

 

 

 

 

 

-

Zack Nemeth

Kundalini-Awakening -Systems- 1

Thursday, April 09, 2009 2:39 PM

Re: [Kundalini-Awakenin g-Systems- 1] Emapthetic Praying

 

 

 

 

Hello,

 

I think that our system is an impersonal vessel. Depending on the level of concentration and how open our energy is to express itself, it would seem