Guest guest Posted April 14, 2009 Report Share Posted April 14, 2009 Hello everyone, its nice to see the group cruising along so well I had a few specific thoughts/ideas and would appreciate anyone's feedback. I have been thinking heavily for a while now as to how the spiritual plane of consciousness intersects the mundane physical reality. It is clear to me that scientific materialism is near completely ignorant about consciousness so I have tried thinking about it on my own. I have determined for myself that there must be a bio-energetic field of some sort that life forms generate, and which operates on the spiritual plane. With this general fact (fact to me anyway I have then moved on to thinking about how such a bio-energy would manifest itself in this physical reality. My best answer so far is that consciousness is able to warp space-time. Being able to warp space-time would allow for generation of energy and would be a scientific gateway outside the known universe. Now, couple this space-time warping effect with the concept of multiple universes and we have a recipe for strange things happening. All the spiritual phenomena would be fair game. Levitation would be the easiest thing since pie! My biggest worry is the idea of multiple universes. If we can tune into and out of such universes, is it possible that we might " warp " ourselves into a drastically new/different universe? Or perhaps just subtly different? Could you at one point be sitting in your home meditating, and the next find yourself in the middle of a city and no one knows who you are? Perhaps you never existed in this new reality? I don't know how much to worry about such a phenomena, but from a recent experience I had I would suggest that love is the force to guide you " home " . With " home " being whatever version of reality you want to be in -Gabriel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 16, 2009 Report Share Posted April 16, 2009 I did see on divinecosmos.com an article about the pineal gland being a miniture star gate in your brain and that the ancients may have known about this and used its technology to travel instantly through time and space. (very startrek!)I do believe in instant travel through out the universe , probably between dimensions but only in to dimensions your frequency aligns with.Love elektra x x x Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 16, 2009 Report Share Posted April 16, 2009 I did see on divinecosmos.com an article about the pineal gland being a miniture star gate in your brain and that the ancients may have known about this and used its technology to travel instantly through time and space. (very startrek!)I do believe in instant travel through out the universe , probably between dimensions but only in to dimensions your frequency aligns with.Love elektra x x x Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 16, 2009 Report Share Posted April 16, 2009 Very cool! I searched some info on the pineal gland and came up with something disturbing... apparently most pineal glands are calcified due to the flouride put in water. That seems a little crazy! Anyone know anything about that? Elektra, I do hope we can travel that way -Gabriel , Elektra Fire <elektra.fire wrote: > > I did see on divinecosmos.com an article about the pineal gland being a miniture star gate in your brain and that the ancients may have known about this and used its technology to travel instantly through time and space. (very startrek!) > I do believe in instant travel through out the universe , probably between dimensions but only in to dimensions your frequency aligns with. > > Love elektra x x x > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 17, 2009 Report Share Posted April 17, 2009 Sleep cycles are modulated with melatonin which is produced by this gland. So if you you can sleep then perhaps it is ok. Not sure if Kundalini cares whether it is calcified or not - lol! Nice to read you Gabriel. - chrism , " strider200142 " <gabriel wrote: > > Very cool! I searched some info on the pineal gland and came up with something disturbing... apparently most pineal glands are calcified due to the flouride put in water. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 17, 2009 Report Share Posted April 17, 2009 I did a report on the endocrine system for my human anatomy and physiology class, the one thing that stuck out to me was that it was in the spot where the ancients called the 3rd eye. I found that most interesting. I also found out how delicate it is. I talked to our local coroner about it for the report and he was telling me that it is not uncommon for people to distroy the pineal gland. Most do so by banging their heads against something. Flouride would have to make it through the blood brain barrier. I have never heard of this happening and I have seen quite a few autopsies. I will double check with the coroner and see. He would know more than I on that subject. strider200142 <gabriel Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 11:41:03 PM Re: Thoughts from a scientific viewpoint Very cool! I searched some info on the pineal gland and came up with something disturbing.. . apparently most pineal glands are calcified due to the flouride put in water. That seems a little crazy! Anyone know anything about that? Elektra, I do hope we can travel that way -GabrielKundalini-Awakening -Systems- 1 , Elektra Fire <elektra.fire@ ...> wrote:>> I did see on divinecosmos. com an article about the pineal gland being a miniture star gate in your brain and that the ancients may have known about this and used its technology to travel instantly through time and space. (very startrek!)> I do believe in instant travel through out the universe , probably between dimensions but only in to dimensions your frequency aligns with.> > Love elektra x x x> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 17, 2009 Report Share Posted April 17, 2009 So I called the coroners office. I got one of the assistants and talked to him. He is going to have the doc call me back. But he did tell me something interesting in our short conversation. Did you know that Colorado has fluroride naturally in its water? I didn't know that. It seems that is how they discovered it was great for fixing teeth. I will get back to you when one of the doctors there have time to call me back. goldencougarwolf <nlring80962 Sent: Friday, April 17, 2009 1:24:50 PMRe: Re: Thoughts from a scientific viewpoint I did a report on the endocrine system for my human anatomy and physiology class, the one thing that stuck out to me was that it was in the spot where the ancients called the 3rd eye. I found that most interesting. I also found out how delicate it is. I talked to our local coroner about it for the report and he was telling me that it is not uncommon for people to distroy the pineal gland. Most do so by banging their heads against something. Flouride would have to make it through the blood brain barrier. I have never heard of this happening and I have seen quite a few autopsies. I will double check with the coroner and see. He would know more than I on that subject. strider200142 <gabriel (AT) sf42 (DOT) com>Kundalini-Awakening -Systems- 1 Thursday, April 16, 2009 11:41:03 PM[Kundalini-Awakenin g-Systems- 1] Re: Thoughts from a scientific viewpoint Very cool! I searched some info on the pineal gland and came up with something disturbing.. . apparently most pineal glands are calcified due to the flouride put in water. That seems a little crazy! Anyone know anything about that? Elektra, I do hope we can travel that way -GabrielKundalini-Awakening -Systems- 1 , Elektra Fire <elektra.fire@ ...> wrote:>> I did see on divinecosmos. com an article about the pineal gland being a miniture star gate in your brain and that the ancients may have known about this and used its technology to travel instantly through time and space. (very startrek!)> I do believe in instant travel through out the universe , probably between dimensions but only in to dimensions your frequency aligns with.> > Love elektra x x x> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 17, 2009 Report Share Posted April 17, 2009 Found something. It is all about the brown staining teeth, which since moving here I have been fighting on my teeth and fluoride. It is about how they discovered fluoride in the first place. http://www.nidcr.nih.gov/OralHealth/Topics/Fluoride/TheStoryofFluoridation.htm goldencougarwolf <nlring80962 Sent: Friday, April 17, 2009 1:43:03 PMRe: Re: Thoughts from a scientific viewpoint So I called the coroners office. I got one of the assistants and talked to him. He is going to have the doc call me back. But he did tell me something interesting in our short conversation. Did you know that Colorado has fluroride naturally in its water? I didn't know that. It seems that is how they discovered it was great for fixing teeth. I will get back to you when one of the doctors there have time to call me back. goldencougarwolf <nlring80962@ >Kundalini-Awakening -Systems- 1 Friday, April 17, 2009 1:24:50 PMRe: [Kundalini-Awakenin g-Systems- 1] Re: Thoughts from a scientific viewpoint I did a report on the endocrine system for my human anatomy and physiology class, the one thing that stuck out to me was that it was in the spot where the ancients called the 3rd eye. I found that most interesting. I also found out how delicate it is. I talked to our local coroner about it for the report and he was telling me that it is not uncommon for people to distroy the pineal gland. Most do so by banging their heads against something. Flouride would have to make it through the blood brain barrier. I have never heard of this happening and I have seen quite a few autopsies. I will double check with the coroner and see. He would know more than I on that subject. strider200142 <gabriel (AT) sf42 (DOT) com>Kundalini-Awakening -Systems- 1 Thursday, April 16, 2009 11:41:03 PM[Kundalini-Awakenin g-Systems- 1] Re: Thoughts from a scientific viewpoint Very cool! I searched some info on the pineal gland and came up with something disturbing.. . apparently most pineal glands are calcified due to the flouride put in water. That seems a little crazy! Anyone know anything about that? Elektra, I do hope we can travel that way -GabrielKundalini-Awakening -Systems- 1 , Elektra Fire <elektra.fire@ ...> wrote:>> I did see on divinecosmos. com an article about the pineal gland being a miniture star gate in your brain and that the ancients may have known about this and used its technology to travel instantly through time and space. (very startrek!)> I do believe in instant travel through out the universe , probably between dimensions but only in to dimensions your frequency aligns with.> > Love elektra x x x> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 18, 2009 Report Share Posted April 18, 2009 My ex and her father had noticeable stains on their teeth. When they lived in Denmark the water, at the time, was fluoridated. Love, Jake--- On Fri, 4/17/09, goldencougarwolf <nlring80962 wrote:goldencougarwolf <nlring80962Re: Re: Thoughts from a scientific viewpoint Date: Friday, April 17, 2009, 7:53 PM Found something. It is all about the brown staining teeth, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 18, 2009 Report Share Posted April 18, 2009 Hmmm... This doesn't sound right. I grew up taking fluoride tablets, still fluoridize my teeth once a week, and drink fluoridized tap water. My teeth really like it, and my pineal doesn't seem to mind. If anything, it's a little on the overactive side. Perhaps I should increase my fluoride intake. Sel , " strider200142 " <gabriel wrote: > > Very cool! I searched some info on the pineal gland and came up with something disturbing... apparently most pineal glands are calcified due to the flouride put in water. That seems a little crazy! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 18, 2009 Report Share Posted April 18, 2009 We avoid fluoride in our family. We have been drinking purified water that eliminates fluoride and chlorine (among other things) for 12 years. I have never let the dentists apply fluoride to the kids' teeth, nor have we used fluoridated toothpaste. My three oldest kids (20, 18 & 15) have no cavities, nor have I had any in all those years. For anyone who's interested, here is a link from an MD that discusses the harm of fluoride: http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2000/09/24/fluoride-kills-cells.aspx Carolyn --- On Sat, 4/18/09, selena255 <selena wrote: Hmmm... This doesn't sound right. I grew up taking fluoride tablets, still fluoridize my teeth once a week, and drink fluoridized tap water. My teeth really like it, and my pineal doesn't seem to mind. If anything, it's a little on the overactive side. Perhaps I should increase my fluoride intake.SelKundalini-Awakening -Systems- 1 , "strider200142" <gabriel > wrote:>> Very cool! I searched some info on the pineal gland and came up with something disturbing.. . apparently most pineal glands are calcified due to the flouride put in water. That seems a little crazy! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 21, 2009 Report Share Posted April 21, 2009 Thanks for the great info everyone! While fluoride doesn't look like the best thing, I don't think I'll lose any sleep over it -Gabriel , ReikiHands2004 <reikihands2004 wrote: > > We avoid fluoride in our family. We have been drinking purified water that eliminates fluoride and chlorine (among other things) for 12 years. I have never let the dentists apply fluoride to the kids' teeth, nor have we used fluoridated toothpaste. My three oldest kids (20, 18 & 15) have no cavities, nor have I had any in all those years. > > For anyone who's interested, here is a link from an MD that discusses the harm of fluoride: > > http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2000/09/24/fluoride-kills-cel\ ls.aspx > > Carolyn > > > --- On Sat, 4/18/09, selena255 <selena wrote: Hmmm... This doesn't sound right. I grew up taking fluoride tablets, still fluoridize my teeth once a week, and drink fluoridized tap water. > > My teeth really like it, and my pineal doesn't seem to mind. If anything, it's a little on the overactive side. Perhaps I should increase my fluoride intake. > > Sel > > Kundalini-Awakening -Systems- 1 , " strider200142 " <gabriel@ > wrote: > > > > Very cool! I searched some info on the pineal gland and came up with something disturbing.. . apparently most pineal glands are calcified due to the flouride put in water. That seems a little crazy! > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 22, 2009 Report Share Posted April 22, 2009 The research I have done is that the experiments to prove that flouride is OK for you and that it helps the teeth use laboratory grade fluride, ie pure. The actual fluride that they use in bulk to add to drinking water in not pure industrial grade and not so good for you and harder for your body to dispose of. Much, I am afraid, like lots of chemicals in our everyday use. Hugs , " strider200142 " <gabriel wrote: > > Thanks for the great info everyone! While fluoride doesn't look like the best thing, I don't think I'll lose any sleep over it > > -Gabriel > > , ReikiHands2004 <reikihands2004@> wrote: > > > > We avoid fluoride in our family. We have been drinking purified water that eliminates fluoride and chlorine (among other things) for 12 years. I have never let the dentists apply fluoride to the kids' teeth, nor have we used fluoridated toothpaste. My three oldest kids (20, 18 & 15) have no cavities, nor have I had any in all those years. > > > > For anyone who's interested, here is a link from an MD that discusses the harm of fluoride: > > > > http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2000/09/24/fluoride-kills-cel\ ls.aspx > > > > Carolyn > > > > > > --- On Sat, 4/18/09, selena255 <selena@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hmmm... This doesn't sound right. I grew up taking fluoride tablets, still fluoridize my teeth once a week, and drink fluoridized tap water. > > > > My teeth really like it, and my pineal doesn't seem to mind. If anything, it's a little on the overactive side. Perhaps I should increase my fluoride intake. > > > > Sel > > > > Kundalini-Awakening -Systems- 1 , " strider200142 " <gabriel@ > wrote: > > > > > > Very cool! I searched some info on the pineal gland and came up with something disturbing.. . apparently most pineal glands are calcified due to the flouride put in water. That seems a little crazy! > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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