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When I have pain is this the K working through an issue, or stopping because of

an issue?

 

When the pain comes is it blocked completely until I " release the valve " and

forgive an unknown past problem?

 

Is it working through the problem behind the scenes, or waiting for me to figure

it out and " open the valve " so to speak.

 

What good is the pain accomplishing?

 

Why does it come more often now and stronger?

 

Is there a way to throttle it back ANY?

 

Will just " surrendering " take the pain away?

 

I worked through some issues a few hours ago and felt great! Now it is back

pretty strong again. I am heading down to do some more work on it. What am I

doing wrong?

 

Love,

Bill

 

 

 

 

, " chrism " <>

wrote:

>

> Well certainly go to the ER if that is what you feel is best or is called for.

-

>

>

> P.S.Surrender is the term I am suggesting that you partake of to its fullest

meaning. Kundalini is giving you directions about what and where and why the

issue you have is expressing.

>

>

>

>

> , " astronutski "

<astronutski@> wrote:

> >

> > <@> wrote:

> > >

> > > These are emotional blockages Bill and please continue to go deep inside

and review your entire life story to find where the imbalance is residing

> >

> > ** Will do, will search everything, will meditate and open up, something has

got to burst.

> >

> > > and particularly pay attention to what the Kundalini itself is giving you

in regards to what the issue is about or pertaining to.

> >

> > ** I don't understand what this means.

> >

> > >

> > > Nice to read of your enlightening experience!

> > >

> > > Keep going my friend dont lose your focus due to the stresses and strains

and pains of your process.

> >

> > ** This is very hard to do when the " attacks " happen. I clamp up and try to

stop/resist the pain. I feel as though if I give in and surrender to the pain

it will make life unbearable.

> >

> > > These are only in your direct control to a certain degree. In other ways

the Kundalini is in complete control

> >

> > ** I will continue to do my part, I wouldn't mind the K speeding up and quit

hurting me.

> >

> > > and your surrender in the fullest expression of that term will work

wonders for your pain Bill. -

> > >

> >

> > ** " your surrender in the fullest expression of that term " - what? What

term, Kundalini? Are you saying for me to surrender to Kundalini? That I

understand and will work on, I just don't want anymore pain. I am considering

going to the ER Sunday.

> > Love,

> > Bill

> >

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You are being shown the way by virtue of what you have just written! There is

more to do. There is more to go into and to come into balance with. Pain is a

teacher that few people can refuse.

 

A typical scenario is when the student does it right give them pleasure. When

the student isnt studying or doing the work enough or with clarity and diligent

repetition give them pain.

 

This is why pain is being used because given the opportunity most people would

rather not try and balance these inner issues. Kundalini is demanding this of

you and it will help you and continue to hurt you until you take a very sincere

interest in continuously looking into these areas that require the balance to be

given. You are not alone with this as many people come into this stage. It is a

stage and it will pass when you do the work.

 

You can go to the ER and get treated and tested for heart conditions receive

pain meds and stress tests and really jump into the medical industry. You can

try many ways to avoid doing this work or you can " do the work " everyday as

stated in the safeties and get through this stage by embracing it with clarity

and diligence, action and comfort. - my thoughts about this situation with you

Bill. - blessings and balance my friend! - chrism

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Namaste

 

dear Bill

 

i read your message and thought about your questions. . .

 

once again just my 2 cents worth. . .if you have not had this checked

out by a M.D. that is the safest place to start. . .i do not write this

because of any concern of liability. . .but rather as a rule of thumb it

is always best to make sure that something like this is not physical. .

..so if your wife thinks you need to have it checked out, please do. . .

 

concerning the kundalini and blocks. . . .

 

Bill i notice each of these questions are intellectual questions. .

..and wonder if you are more comfortable with processing intellectually

rather than the feelings?. . .

 

What is your capacity with expressing feelings? Feelings are powerful

energetics and blocks are created by not allowing the feelings to move

through, this is what leads to suppression and repression. . .. last

week when you talked about the dream and linking the pain to your

Father. . .i suspected you had only began to touch the depth of that

wound. . .in my experience it is much more than just remembering. .

..remembering is often just opening the door. . .the further exploration

of feelings. . . and then a process of going deeper and allowing the

feelings to be expressed layer upon layer. . .often times depending on

the depth of the wound it can takes months to really bring the layers of

a critical issue to healing. . .often with deep wounds such as a parent

child abandonment many concepts of self are based on the child not

feeling valued, loved, protected and guided to name a few. . .and you

have probably spent much of your life covering up its depth. . .

 

Bill abandonment is deep wound. . .i am sensing if you knew how to go

deeper you would. . . .i would like to suggest something that might help

you moved deeper into the issue with your Father. . .In Taoism there is

a saying, " if one wants to extinguish a issue, then allow it to

flourish " . . . .

 

suggestion; find a quite private space, and allow yourself to remember

what it was like as a child without your Dad. . .then allow the body to

take the posture of the child. . .be aware of what the child's body is

saying and what the child is feeling. . .after you have done this for

awhile imagine speaking to your Dad and telling him your feelings and

memories. . .after you have expressed this i would suggest you get down

on your knees and imagine your Dad standing above you, then reach out

with both arms to your Dad (as the child that you where) and say, Dad i

really need you, and i really need a Dad to love me and a Dad to receive

my love. " Then allow yourself to just be with yourself and that which

surfaces. . .

 

Bill the emotional pain can become physical for some people, each person

is different. . .but the pain in kundalini comes from the blocks that do

not allow the energetic to flow. . .these are places we went into

contraction because as children it was not safe to feel the enormosity

of those feelings. . . abandoment to a young child is annilation and

the child's ego is not mature enough to be able to process those

feelings so defenses and blocks occur. . . As a child the defenses where

a protection but now they do not serve you. . .

 

Kundalini Ma is bringing those old blocks to surface. . .it is a

process to remove the blocks. . . .#1 Awareness. . . .#2 Expression with

means- feelings and sharing not just once but however long it takes for

the clearing and cleansing process. . .#3 Containment. . .very often

people want to go from Awareness to Containment without doing the work

of Expression. . .

 

Bill do you have a good massage therapist?. . .now might be a good time

to incorporate massage and healing touch???

 

Also concerning the pain. . .kundalini is very powerful. . .it is

spiritual life force energy that has been stored and fueled for

uncountable lifetimes. . .and much like a compression engine it is

stored until it is time for release. . .She knows when it is time for

each of us. . .that is where trust comes in. . .Along the way we learn

that what ever She brings to lean into it rather than to oppose it or

analyse it to shreds. . .Bill do you have children?. . .Did you go

through birthing class with your wife? Now the tables have changed and

you are the one that is giving birth. . . . to yourself. . . . To ask

why the pain? That is like asking why women have pain with birthing. .

.. .dear One you are pregnant with God. . .and this is the way of being

fully human. . .male and female joined together as one bringing forth

the Christ child. . .this birthing is also an invitation to open your

heart to the feminine that birthed you and birthed your children. .

..Bill you are becoming a complete whole human being. . .and on the other

side of it you will be both a radiant mom that forgets the pain as soon

as the smiling golden child of grace and love looks up into your eyes. .

..You are the birther and you are being birthed. . .so if you went

through birthing classes with your wife. . .breathe into whatever comes

up concerning the pain. . .the more you move into the pain rather than

jumping to the head and creating all kinds of stories as to why it is

not suppose to be there, and then reaching for whatever kind of external

remendy. . .just acknowledge the pain, and move deeper and see if you

can find the part of you in the center of your being that is not the

body. . .Bill one of the biggest lessons Kundalini Ma has taught is; i

am not the body. . . She taught that by way of pain and she showed

time and time again the surffering i created by trying to avoid the

pain rather than just be with it and embrace it. . .and of course the

paradox of fully embracing pain is that when we hold it, it cannot

clutch us and soon dissolves to something that is much more manageable .

.. .

 

.. . .i had put the lap top away for the evening . . .but decided to come

back share a few thoughts. . .my thoughts and prayers are with you. .

..may there be release and the flow of who you truly are soon. . .

 

love and light

ordinary sparrow

 

 

 

 

 

, " astronutski "

<astronutski wrote:

>

> When I have pain is this the K working through an issue, or stopping

because of an issue?

>

> When the pain comes is it blocked completely until I " release the

valve " and forgive an unknown past problem?

>

> Is it working through the problem behind the scenes, or waiting for me

to figure it out and " open the valve " so to speak.

>

> What good is the pain accomplishing?

>

> Why does it come more often now and stronger?

>

> Is there a way to throttle it back ANY?

>

> Will just " surrendering " take the pain away?

>

> I worked through some issues a few hours ago and felt great! Now it

is back pretty strong again. I am heading down to do some more work on

it. What am I doing wrong?

>

> Love,

> Bill

>

>

>

>

> , " chrism "

@ wrote:

> >

> > Well certainly go to the ER if that is what you feel is best or is

called for. -

> >

> >

> > P.S.Surrender is the term I am suggesting that you partake of to its

fullest meaning. Kundalini is giving you directions about what and where

and why the issue you have is expressing.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > , " astronutski "

<astronutski@> wrote:

> > >

> > > <@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > These are emotional blockages Bill and please continue to go

deep inside and review your entire life story to find where the

imbalance is residing

> > >

> > > ** Will do, will search everything, will meditate and open up,

something has got to burst.

> > >

> > > > and particularly pay attention to what the Kundalini itself is

giving you in regards to what the issue is about or pertaining to.

> > >

> > > ** I don't understand what this means.

> > >

> > > >

> > > > Nice to read of your enlightening experience!

> > > >

> > > > Keep going my friend dont lose your focus due to the stresses

and strains and pains of your process.

> > >

> > > ** This is very hard to do when the " attacks " happen. I clamp up

and try to stop/resist the pain. I feel as though if I give in and

surrender to the pain it will make life unbearable.

> > >

> > > > These are only in your direct control to a certain degree. In

other ways the Kundalini is in complete control

> > >

> > > ** I will continue to do my part, I wouldn't mind the K speeding

up and quit hurting me.

> > >

> > > > and your surrender in the fullest expression of that term will

work wonders for your pain Bill. -

> > > >

> > >

> > > ** " your surrender in the fullest expression of that term " - what?

What term, Kundalini? Are you saying for me to surrender to Kundalini?

That I understand and will work on, I just don't want anymore pain. I

am considering going to the ER Sunday.

> > > Love,

> > > Bill

> > >

> >

>

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