Guest guest Posted May 8, 2009 Report Share Posted May 8, 2009 When I have pain is this the K working through an issue, or stopping because of an issue? When the pain comes is it blocked completely until I " release the valve " and forgive an unknown past problem? Is it working through the problem behind the scenes, or waiting for me to figure it out and " open the valve " so to speak. What good is the pain accomplishing? Why does it come more often now and stronger? Is there a way to throttle it back ANY? Will just " surrendering " take the pain away? I worked through some issues a few hours ago and felt great! Now it is back pretty strong again. I am heading down to do some more work on it. What am I doing wrong? Love, Bill , " chrism " <> wrote: > > Well certainly go to the ER if that is what you feel is best or is called for. - > > > P.S.Surrender is the term I am suggesting that you partake of to its fullest meaning. Kundalini is giving you directions about what and where and why the issue you have is expressing. > > > > > , " astronutski " <astronutski@> wrote: > > > > <@> wrote: > > > > > > These are emotional blockages Bill and please continue to go deep inside and review your entire life story to find where the imbalance is residing > > > > ** Will do, will search everything, will meditate and open up, something has got to burst. > > > > > and particularly pay attention to what the Kundalini itself is giving you in regards to what the issue is about or pertaining to. > > > > ** I don't understand what this means. > > > > > > > > Nice to read of your enlightening experience! > > > > > > Keep going my friend dont lose your focus due to the stresses and strains and pains of your process. > > > > ** This is very hard to do when the " attacks " happen. I clamp up and try to stop/resist the pain. I feel as though if I give in and surrender to the pain it will make life unbearable. > > > > > These are only in your direct control to a certain degree. In other ways the Kundalini is in complete control > > > > ** I will continue to do my part, I wouldn't mind the K speeding up and quit hurting me. > > > > > and your surrender in the fullest expression of that term will work wonders for your pain Bill. - > > > > > > > ** " your surrender in the fullest expression of that term " - what? What term, Kundalini? Are you saying for me to surrender to Kundalini? That I understand and will work on, I just don't want anymore pain. I am considering going to the ER Sunday. > > Love, > > Bill > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 8, 2009 Report Share Posted May 8, 2009 You are being shown the way by virtue of what you have just written! There is more to do. There is more to go into and to come into balance with. Pain is a teacher that few people can refuse. A typical scenario is when the student does it right give them pleasure. When the student isnt studying or doing the work enough or with clarity and diligent repetition give them pain. This is why pain is being used because given the opportunity most people would rather not try and balance these inner issues. Kundalini is demanding this of you and it will help you and continue to hurt you until you take a very sincere interest in continuously looking into these areas that require the balance to be given. You are not alone with this as many people come into this stage. It is a stage and it will pass when you do the work. You can go to the ER and get treated and tested for heart conditions receive pain meds and stress tests and really jump into the medical industry. You can try many ways to avoid doing this work or you can " do the work " everyday as stated in the safeties and get through this stage by embracing it with clarity and diligence, action and comfort. - my thoughts about this situation with you Bill. - blessings and balance my friend! - chrism Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 8, 2009 Report Share Posted May 8, 2009 Namaste dear Bill i read your message and thought about your questions. . . once again just my 2 cents worth. . .if you have not had this checked out by a M.D. that is the safest place to start. . .i do not write this because of any concern of liability. . .but rather as a rule of thumb it is always best to make sure that something like this is not physical. . ..so if your wife thinks you need to have it checked out, please do. . . concerning the kundalini and blocks. . . . Bill i notice each of these questions are intellectual questions. . ..and wonder if you are more comfortable with processing intellectually rather than the feelings?. . . What is your capacity with expressing feelings? Feelings are powerful energetics and blocks are created by not allowing the feelings to move through, this is what leads to suppression and repression. . .. last week when you talked about the dream and linking the pain to your Father. . .i suspected you had only began to touch the depth of that wound. . .in my experience it is much more than just remembering. . ..remembering is often just opening the door. . .the further exploration of feelings. . . and then a process of going deeper and allowing the feelings to be expressed layer upon layer. . .often times depending on the depth of the wound it can takes months to really bring the layers of a critical issue to healing. . .often with deep wounds such as a parent child abandonment many concepts of self are based on the child not feeling valued, loved, protected and guided to name a few. . .and you have probably spent much of your life covering up its depth. . . Bill abandonment is deep wound. . .i am sensing if you knew how to go deeper you would. . . .i would like to suggest something that might help you moved deeper into the issue with your Father. . .In Taoism there is a saying, " if one wants to extinguish a issue, then allow it to flourish " . . . . suggestion; find a quite private space, and allow yourself to remember what it was like as a child without your Dad. . .then allow the body to take the posture of the child. . .be aware of what the child's body is saying and what the child is feeling. . .after you have done this for awhile imagine speaking to your Dad and telling him your feelings and memories. . .after you have expressed this i would suggest you get down on your knees and imagine your Dad standing above you, then reach out with both arms to your Dad (as the child that you where) and say, Dad i really need you, and i really need a Dad to love me and a Dad to receive my love. " Then allow yourself to just be with yourself and that which surfaces. . . Bill the emotional pain can become physical for some people, each person is different. . .but the pain in kundalini comes from the blocks that do not allow the energetic to flow. . .these are places we went into contraction because as children it was not safe to feel the enormosity of those feelings. . . abandoment to a young child is annilation and the child's ego is not mature enough to be able to process those feelings so defenses and blocks occur. . . As a child the defenses where a protection but now they do not serve you. . . Kundalini Ma is bringing those old blocks to surface. . .it is a process to remove the blocks. . . .#1 Awareness. . . .#2 Expression with means- feelings and sharing not just once but however long it takes for the clearing and cleansing process. . .#3 Containment. . .very often people want to go from Awareness to Containment without doing the work of Expression. . . Bill do you have a good massage therapist?. . .now might be a good time to incorporate massage and healing touch??? Also concerning the pain. . .kundalini is very powerful. . .it is spiritual life force energy that has been stored and fueled for uncountable lifetimes. . .and much like a compression engine it is stored until it is time for release. . .She knows when it is time for each of us. . .that is where trust comes in. . .Along the way we learn that what ever She brings to lean into it rather than to oppose it or analyse it to shreds. . .Bill do you have children?. . .Did you go through birthing class with your wife? Now the tables have changed and you are the one that is giving birth. . . . to yourself. . . . To ask why the pain? That is like asking why women have pain with birthing. . .. .dear One you are pregnant with God. . .and this is the way of being fully human. . .male and female joined together as one bringing forth the Christ child. . .this birthing is also an invitation to open your heart to the feminine that birthed you and birthed your children. . ..Bill you are becoming a complete whole human being. . .and on the other side of it you will be both a radiant mom that forgets the pain as soon as the smiling golden child of grace and love looks up into your eyes. . ..You are the birther and you are being birthed. . .so if you went through birthing classes with your wife. . .breathe into whatever comes up concerning the pain. . .the more you move into the pain rather than jumping to the head and creating all kinds of stories as to why it is not suppose to be there, and then reaching for whatever kind of external remendy. . .just acknowledge the pain, and move deeper and see if you can find the part of you in the center of your being that is not the body. . .Bill one of the biggest lessons Kundalini Ma has taught is; i am not the body. . . She taught that by way of pain and she showed time and time again the surffering i created by trying to avoid the pain rather than just be with it and embrace it. . .and of course the paradox of fully embracing pain is that when we hold it, it cannot clutch us and soon dissolves to something that is much more manageable . .. . .. . .i had put the lap top away for the evening . . .but decided to come back share a few thoughts. . .my thoughts and prayers are with you. . ..may there be release and the flow of who you truly are soon. . . love and light ordinary sparrow , " astronutski " <astronutski wrote: > > When I have pain is this the K working through an issue, or stopping because of an issue? > > When the pain comes is it blocked completely until I " release the valve " and forgive an unknown past problem? > > Is it working through the problem behind the scenes, or waiting for me to figure it out and " open the valve " so to speak. > > What good is the pain accomplishing? > > Why does it come more often now and stronger? > > Is there a way to throttle it back ANY? > > Will just " surrendering " take the pain away? > > I worked through some issues a few hours ago and felt great! Now it is back pretty strong again. I am heading down to do some more work on it. What am I doing wrong? > > Love, > Bill > > > > > , " chrism " @ wrote: > > > > Well certainly go to the ER if that is what you feel is best or is called for. - > > > > > > P.S.Surrender is the term I am suggesting that you partake of to its fullest meaning. Kundalini is giving you directions about what and where and why the issue you have is expressing. > > > > > > > > > > , " astronutski " <astronutski@> wrote: > > > > > > <@> wrote: > > > > > > > > These are emotional blockages Bill and please continue to go deep inside and review your entire life story to find where the imbalance is residing > > > > > > ** Will do, will search everything, will meditate and open up, something has got to burst. > > > > > > > and particularly pay attention to what the Kundalini itself is giving you in regards to what the issue is about or pertaining to. > > > > > > ** I don't understand what this means. > > > > > > > > > > > Nice to read of your enlightening experience! > > > > > > > > Keep going my friend dont lose your focus due to the stresses and strains and pains of your process. > > > > > > ** This is very hard to do when the " attacks " happen. I clamp up and try to stop/resist the pain. I feel as though if I give in and surrender to the pain it will make life unbearable. > > > > > > > These are only in your direct control to a certain degree. In other ways the Kundalini is in complete control > > > > > > ** I will continue to do my part, I wouldn't mind the K speeding up and quit hurting me. > > > > > > > and your surrender in the fullest expression of that term will work wonders for your pain Bill. - > > > > > > > > > > ** " your surrender in the fullest expression of that term " - what? What term, Kundalini? Are you saying for me to surrender to Kundalini? That I understand and will work on, I just don't want anymore pain. I am considering going to the ER Sunday. > > > Love, > > > Bill > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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