Guest guest Posted May 11, 2009 Report Share Posted May 11, 2009 Namaste dear Nina. . . hope you are feeling better and this day has been beautiful for you. . . (sorry this is too long and too much about me. . . and too ramblings. . ..and hesitate to share. . . but i am going to push the send button none the less dear friends. . . ) Nina i went to sleep thinking about your questions last night. . .and woke up this morning with the question continuing to bring in many pieces from different planes of times and experiences. . .often times with this being one of them i allowed the pieces and different levels to emerge and when they present themselves there comes the synthesis. . .. it is always difficult for me to find the language to express the process and synthesis. . . i have absolutely no inkling or projection that what emerged fits you are not. . .for the revealing directly related to what Kundalini Ma has along the way. . .but i will share a small bit of the journey your questions took me into and with its challenge to attempt communicate the synthesis. . . a bit of background. . . on the Child of Matter. . . . my birth mother left at birth due to illness. . . i was a failure to thrive baby for the first 10 months and was force fed for the first ten months. . .the caretakers where seven older siblings and our elderly rural neighbors. . . one day around ten months an older sister set me down outside of a coral. . .psychologist would probably dispute the ability to have recall at this age, but there is full recall of the experience. . . first memory was looking into two huge eyes of a big red horse. . .and in that moment i came alive as a cord of energy zipped up from the stomach into the heart of the lead mare, Filly. . . felt the energetic pull and was mesmerized with attempt to reach for her. . .my sister pulled me back and i threw a tantrum. . .because of the reaction the family started placing me on Filly's back for feeding . . . i started thriving and Filly became the psychological mother. . .by two years old had learned to climb a wood rail fence and Filly would come up from the pasture and lean close so i could climb on her back. . .she would take me down into the pastures with the rest of the herd and that is where i learned first language. . .my Mother tongue was the energetic world. . .as a baby had been touch phobic so there had not been regular body bonding. . .i was swallowed whole by Mother Nature and bonded with her and she takes in everything and extends without boundary. . .because of this early bonding i knew early separation is an illusion. . . sometimes i wonder about Shakti. . . is She a gift of evolution or is She something precious we have de-evolved away from?. .. .Is She our original birthright, the part of us that is Nature? I think so. . .Shakti has taught i am a Child of Matter as well as a Child of Spirit. . . and Her teachings have been a process of gradually bringing to awareness the Oneness of our beingness, in both the world of Matter and the world of Spirit. . . Shakti taught the child through Filly the heart is not bound by distance or separation. . .i would go sit on the fence and she would be down in the pasture, the heart would open up with love and longing for her " mother " . . .and up from the pasture with the herd following behind she would come to get me. . . learned early we live in an energetic world and Mother Earth holds the energetic history just like our bodies hold the energetic history . . .for we are one with Mother Earth as her children . . . for many years there was suffering because i thought everything being taken in was my own personal energetic. . . i was buried in an ache that did not make sense. . . although i coped well in the world underneath i hurt. . . then in the mid eighties was a practicing psychotherapist. . .and a phenomena began to occur in the offices all across the Western world. . ..you probably remember the sensational phenomena of ritual abuse. . . . predominately women where flooding the offices of therapist with horrendous stories of Satanic ritual abuse. . .As a young therapist i had many questions. . . had specialized in trauma therapy and had been taught the importance of believing the stories of abuse, and at the same time therapist where being accused of instigating false memories in clients. . . it was a bit like walking on egg shells. . .for about three years i heard many horrendous stories. . . then began to have terrible nightmares of my own. . .knew i had not gone through spiritual abuse, and also knew i was open to the collective unconscious realms because of the childhood bonding with the Great Mother. . .so made a conscious decision to claim it and take it on as my own. . . i plunged into the darkness for seven years . . . do not have words to describe the darkness of those years and the depth of anguish. . . a year during that period became very suicidal and truly by the grace of Kundalini Ma there was the allowance of survival. . . for seven years i was immersed in the collective unconscious memory of the feminine soul, Native lineage history, and the degradation of Mother Earth in the hands of the patriarchal " spirit of domination " for thousands of years. . . ..Without knowing what it was i lived within it for years. . . now know i had opened to the what Eckhart Tolle calls the " pain body " . . . he states suggest we do not need to go into it. . .but i did. . . for did not know any better. . .in every cell of the body was the ancient story. . . the personal as well as collective. . . .the memories where trapped in the body and i spent a lot of time curled up in a contracted fetal position releasing the memories through the body. . . ended up going inpatient to Denver Colorado to a specialist that worked with trauma and for seven weeks was placed in physical constraints for several hours each day so the body would not curl up and go into convulsion because of the depth of contraction and i released the blocks through the expression of feelings, there where layer upon layer of ancient fear. . .and looking back i suspect this was all stored in the tribal reservoir of the root chakra? during those years lessons emerged and where synthesized into seven major lessons . . .after the seventh lesson came forth there was a wonderful sense of release and clearing. . .then a couple of weeks after the final lesson something beautiful occurred. . . i had been going out and sitting each day with a herd of Holstein cattle and was playing. . .i would breath love through the heart to each one of them, and they would one by one come up and lick the hand, then they would be given a sacred name. . .with Bessie, cow number 99, while breathing love through the heart, all the sudden the love i had been sending them each day came bouncing back into the heart and was magnified many fold. .. .it was such a tender beautiful experience and then felt the gentle weaving of the ida and pingala up from the root to the sixth chakra. . . that is when i say i began the internal kundalini awakening but the energetic was present since first memory, but at the time i did not have a language for it and was not aware of the chakras or Eastern spirituality. . .that day in November of 1991 was deep transformation and was released from the past and a whole new world opened. . .once i opened to Eastern spirituality it was obvious the lessons where release of the collective unconscious of the blocks in each of the seven chakras. . .another thing that happened with the release is not only was there individual release but the women and therapist i had traveled the psychological journey with for those years also received significant release at the occurrence. . i hesitate to share this for it seems grandiose. . .but it was validated by the healers and i chose to share it for i want to share, in the realm of Kundalini Ma she shows we are connected to the greater whole and when we heal we also become a vessel of healing that impacts and brings healing for the whole. . ..Amma, my teacher has said when we go through deep spiritual transformation (aka kundalini awakening) our healing effects three generations before us and four generations after us. . .many times that awareness keeps me motivated. . .in this life there has always been a sense this life was not for me at a personal level but was for something greater . . .do others of you feel that way sometimes?. . .. this is a bit of how i have synthesized this period of the journey. . ..the " pain body " the immersion into the collective was a trip into the world of maya. . .matter also has its " oneness " . . .everything thing is there and we can open to it. . .for me that is the karmic world. . .the world of cause and effect. . . it is an illusionary world that has experience but it can never truly define who we truly are, even though it is an intense world of material experience. . . .real but Unreal. . . the Child of Spirit. . . after the immersion in the oneness of Matter. . . Kundalini Ma began to show i was also a Child of Spirit. . .and in the realm of Spirit the bonds of karma are dissolved by the Oneness of Spirit which i experience as grace and divine love. . . after years of delving into the psychological realized i needed to move from karma to grace. . .and for me grace is not found in the past, but rather the present. . . my past belongs to the Child of Matter whereas the Child of Spirit lives fully in the present. . . there is a growing realization i cannot serve two Masters. . . .Kundalini Ma has shown instead of identifying with the action found in duality such as the polarity found in yin/yang, light/dark, me/not me. . . .and on and on. . .my identification needs to be with the circle that contains all polarities. . . i entered Kundalini Ma by way the past and the karmic and did deep clearing and cleansing work and it was the hard way. . .and it came so close to killing me. . . nowadays i sometimes visit the past to harvest the lessons , but i no longer live there. . . the patterns of the past will always be imprinted in my karmic world and they can be brought to awareness and there is some healing but in truth the past will never be truly healed or erased. . .but can only be transcended. . . it seems to be a dance each of us must figure out when it is time to let go of the unreal world and move to the real world. . . Nina for me it truly has been a pilgrimage that leads to the world that transcends karma. . .i did it the hard way and believe wisely shows the more gentle path. . . one does not have to swim in the karmic world as i did in my unknowing. . . the karmic world can only be transcended by love, light, forgiveness, and gratitude such as Chrism illuminates with the safeties i believe this is the realm of the Child of Spirit. . .every moment we dwell in love and light we share the Oneness of Truth and in that holding space love and light enters creation through us. . . i have found one short cut that is profound and simple. . . this one i can testify with certainity. . .it is impossible to call on the Holy Spirit (which i believe is another name for Kundalini Ma) and not receive assistance. . .it is the function and purpose of the Holy Spirit to guide and be there for us in the fullest and most loving manner. . ..always She has our highest good. . . we are given free will so we have to give permission and ask for guidance. . .there has never been a time when i asked for assistance that a transformation has not occured. . ..often times times the external situation looks the same, but the mind and heart will be lifted and transformed to a place of peace, acceptance and a fresh perspective. . . i believe in the Course of Miracles this is the ever present miracle that is waiting for us in every situation. . ..the Child of Spirit has learned to transcend the karmic world by calling on the grace which is greater than the egoic mind that wants to figure it out. . . and this is something that can quickly take us from fear to love. . .the most powerful words i know are " Come Holy Spirt " or " Come Holy Mother " lift me to your heart and to your mind. . .it is that simple. .. . .from fear to love. . . thanks to the ones that have tried to follow this ramble . . .and for the allowance of revealing and sharing of the experiential . . . this is an attempt frame a bit of the journey and others may have very different ways of conceptualizing their own experience. . .and as always honor to each and all. . .in our unity and uniqueness.. . . may your day be blessed with goodness ordinary sparrow , " framestone68 " <framestone68 wrote: > > Hi Kundalini Peoples. > > My K works much in my mind and emotional body the last few weeks. She gave me some flu to stay in bed one week. It is much easier to get some attention from me when I am still. (She knows all about you). I got some very old scares on my neck in my astral body. I think it is from previous lifetime, maybe I get killed by a knife or hanged, something like that... Now K is stuck there and I do not know how to release her. I do yoga, meditate and trying to look at my thoughts, but I think it is something deeper to look at. Now it is start to hurt in my physical body. Any suggestions how to release the K-flow? > > And I have another issue, when I am at the subway or work or anywhere I am in contact with people sometimes my third eye start to ache, it get very active. I wonder what happens, what will the third eye tell me, a warning? Is it bad or god? Do I miss something important? > I f someone has any thoughts about I will be grateful. > > > Let you all be safe and get prosperity, love and bliss… and thanks for this beautiful world as pulsating under our feet… and Chrism…and thanks for the sky and the air we breathe… > > > Love & Life > Nina R > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 11, 2009 Report Share Posted May 11, 2009 ordinary sparrow- you are not ordinary at all- you are a glorious testament to the wonders of the human soul transformed by Kundalini into an illuminous being- thank you for sharing your experiences- i marvel at the complexities you have encountered and mastered. - we all have different paths yet the sharing allows us to see the totality of the journey - i have been fortunate to date my journey has been one of ease and no trauma- finding chrism has saved me much pain and doubt. we all enter the journey with different baggage or knowledge- your journey reads like a book and would make a beautiful movie - one day perhaps - thank you again - i am happy you are here to offer assistance to others who may benefit from your events .. Namaste e Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 11, 2009 Report Share Posted May 11, 2009 Hello Dear Ordinary Sparrow, sister of Kundalini. Thank you my day is perfect, and I feel fine today. Hope your day is in peace and harmony. I will thank you for your devotion to share and to bring an important issue abroad. I am glad that the question carried out such a lovely and beautiful story. I do remember the dark 1980-19991. In Sweden we had the collective child abuse going on here, everybody where suddenly victims of child abuse. I also remember when the light come and released us from the collective mind going on thing. I remember the youngster started to talk about themselves as me ¡V ego me and that me shall have, the collective was over and the ego come out from the closet. These days everybody talking about to free the soul, but most of the people I meet do not have the courage to leave the safe world of illusion ¡V as we know in here, the freedom from maya have a price in suffering and aloneness. I have read Eckhart Tolle and I understand collective unconscious memory of the feminine soul. A friend of mine have problems to be open about her spiritual travel because of the witch hunting , I understand that her DNA remember to be accused as a witch when trying to help people. Some blocks Kundalini try to open is from the collective thought system and is not always depending on me as a person, but also the community I live in. Is that what you try to tell me Ordinary Sparrow? The thought systems we get when we are child and that follows from past life is something to be conscious about but not to identify with. Tricky one. I think it is important to recognize all your belief system and tell them adios. Kundalini, the loving one, continue to breath gracefulness, count every leaf, bless every living thing she sees and touch. Sometimes I got the feeling that GOD is a child growing up and start to realize what it is. Sometimes I feel the loving touch, joy and coziness from the spirit like it is a child, a very intelligent and humorous spirit child. My problems in my neck are released after two weeks, at last, maybe because I asked the question. Who knows? ƒº God spirit, prosperity, love and bless the sharing. Love & life Nina Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 11, 2009 Report Share Posted May 11, 2009 Dear Ordinary Sparrow, thank you for sharing your story so beautifully and honestly. Your words continue to illuminate many aspects of experience and consciousness for me and I am grateful for that. love Bruce Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 12, 2009 Report Share Posted May 12, 2009 Namaste dear Nina. . . " Some blocks Kundalini try to open is from the collective thought system and is not always depending on me as a person, but also the community I live in. Is that what you try to tell me Ordinary Sparrow? " yes, i was trying to suggest. . . in the world of K Ma i have found in the journey of realizing our Oneness we are challenged to shed many layers both in the personal reality and the collective realms. . . thanks for sharing about those years in your country it was validating dear sister. . .also because the blocks you where experiencing where above the heart and, it seemed to me it was the High Heart area and that is the space where i really began to experience the interconnectedness and Oneness in increasing degrees. . .and with the awareness that much of the pain was not personal it was much easier for me to contain it and hold it rather than it clutching me. . . dear Nina. . .you said in a few words exactly what took me too many. . . I love your words God is a growing child. . . i so agree. . . .and we are all His/Her One child. . . . love and light ordinary sparrow , " framestone68 " <framestone68 wrote: > > Hello Dear Ordinary Sparrow, sister of Kundalini. > Thank you my day is perfect, and I feel fine today. Hope your day is in peace and harmony. > > I will thank you for your devotion to share and to bring an important issue abroad. I am glad that the question carried out such a lovely and beautiful story. I do remember the dark 1980-19991. In Sweden we had the collective child abuse going on here, everybody where suddenly victims of child abuse. I also remember when the light come and released us from the collective mind going on thing. I remember the youngster started to talk about themselves as me ¡V ego me and that me shall have, the collective was over and the ego come out from the closet. > > These days everybody talking about to free the soul, but most of the people I meet do not have the courage to leave the safe world of illusion ¡V as we know in here, the freedom from maya have a price in suffering and aloneness. I have read Eckhart Tolle and I understand collective unconscious memory of the feminine soul. A friend of mine have problems to be open about her spiritual travel because of the witch hunting , I understand that her DNA remember to be accused as a witch when trying to help people. Some blocks Kundalini try to open is from the collective thought system and is not always depending on me as a person, but also the community I live in. Is that what you try to tell me Ordinary Sparrow? The thought systems we get when we are child and that follows from past life is something to be conscious about but not to identify with. Tricky one. I think it is important to recognize all your belief system and tell them adios. > Kundalini, the loving one, continue to breath gracefulness, count every leaf, bless every living thing she sees and touch. Sometimes I got the feeling that GOD is a child growing up and start to realize what it is. Sometimes I feel the loving touch, joy and coziness from the spirit like it is a child, a very intelligent and humorous spirit child. > > My problems in my neck are released after two weeks, at last, maybe because I asked the question. Who knows? ƒº > God spirit, prosperity, love and bless the sharing. > > Love & life > Nina > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 12, 2009 Report Share Posted May 12, 2009 Such a lovely and beautiful path Sparrow. Truly breath taking in its depth and breadth of experience and karma. All I can do is nod in agreement. We share many similarities of paths dear friend. Your integrity and honesty reveal the teachings of Kundalini and of your karma as a child of Kundalini in such blessed clarity that I honor these teachings you offer as a staple resevoir of information for those who may come to explore or to interpret their interest and experience of the Kundalini with in themselves. - blessings and love to you Sparrow! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 12, 2009 Report Share Posted May 12, 2009 > i have found one short cut that is profound and simple. . . this one i > can testify with certainity. . .it is impossible to call on the Holy > Spirit (which i believe is another name for Kundalini Ma) and not > receive assistance. . .it is the function and purpose of the Holy Spirit > to guide and be there for us in the fullest and most loving manner. . > .always She has our highest good. . . we are given free will so we have > to give permission and ask for guidance. . .there has never been a time > when i asked for assistance that a transformation has not occured. . > .often times times the external situation looks the same, but the mind > and heart will be lifted and transformed to a place of peace, acceptance > and a fresh perspective. . . i believe in the Course of Miracles this is > the ever present miracle that is waiting for us in every situation. . > .the Child of Spirit has learned to transcend the karmic world by > calling on the grace which is greater than the egoic mind that wants to > figure it out. . . and this is something that can quickly take us from > fear to love. . .the most powerful words i know are " Come Holy Spirt " > or " Come Holy Mother " lift me to your heart and to your mind. . .it is > that simple. .. . .from fear to love. . . I have asked for help many times, for answers, for help, for transformation, and the only thing I've come to is: do you (Shakti) really love me? and the ultimate: who am i? I've received nothing, I've begged and pleaded to Her, and I don't even think She's listening. I'm actually really wondering if she's even here to help me. before I received the K, I was having deep spiritual experiences where I actually felt the truth of the power of now. and this was less than a year of starting meditation. And I felt joy for no reason. Since She has activated in me it's been lonely, extremely lonely. For the first time in my life, before K activated, I actually really enjoyed the company of my family, I was actually becoming friends with them. then I move away, have my K activate and loose my best friend in the process, come back home to regroup and it seems I've already lost any sense of deep relationship with my family. I don't know, I sometimes wonder if this is even a blessing... craig Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 12, 2009 Report Share Posted May 12, 2009 Thank you Chrism. . . .and i have sensed we have many similarities from the path. . . ordinary sparrow , " chrism " <> wrote: > > Such a lovely and beautiful path Sparrow. Truly breath taking in its depth and breadth of experience and karma. All I can do is nod in agreement. > > We share many similarities of paths dear friend. > > Your integrity and honesty reveal the teachings of Kundalini and of your karma as a child of Kundalini in such blessed clarity that I honor these teachings you offer as a staple resevoir of information for those who may come to explore or to interpret their interest and experience of the Kundalini with in themselves. - blessings and love to you Sparrow! > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 12, 2009 Report Share Posted May 12, 2009 Namaste Craig sorry you are having a dry spell. . .just a sharing of a few thoughts. . . hope soon you will be open to that gifting of knowing She is ALWAYS with you and ALWAYS working for your highest good. . . listen carefully once you call on the Holy Spirit/Kundalini Ma. . .calm the mind and listen. . . Craig. . .is there anyone in your life that you have not forgiven? including your self? Sometimes the transformation is the embrace of " and this too " . . .and there will not be the bliss and the " feel good " because a deep cleansing is going on and bringing one into deep layers of acceptance and surrender. . . i have learned with Kundalini Ma to be open to anything, but do not expect anything. . .as soon as i start putting expectations that Kundalini is suppose to express a certain way then i have made the mistake of turning Ma into another egoic graspment. . .She is here to teach us to let go of attachments and grasping. . .i believe. . . another very important factor to insure the awareness of the inner connection with the Divine is service. . .no matter what. . . find one place to serve everyday. . . if one keeps the door open to service. . . ..it will bring the communion with Her to a more immediate and accessible relationship. . . .love and service without expectation of any return. . .. service keeps us from living in a box that is too small. . .and will truly bless you as much as the ones that are served. . . just some thoughts. . .have faith. . .and trust dear brother. . . .She will not fail you. . .you are her beloved son. . .and like one of my teachers said, " adversity is just the shadow of the Mother's hand coming to caress you. " . . . keep calling on Her. . . . You are One with Her. . . love and light ordinary sparrow , " kundaflame " <kundaflame wrote: > > > > > > > i have found one short cut that is profound and simple. . . this one i > > can testify with certainity. . .it is impossible to call on the Holy > > Spirit (which i believe is another name for Kundalini Ma) and not > > receive assistance. . .it is the function and purpose of the Holy Spirit > > to guide and be there for us in the fullest and most loving manner. .. > > .always She has our highest good. . . we are given free will so we have > > to give permission and ask for guidance. . .there has never been a time > > when i asked for assistance that a transformation has not occured. . > > .often times times the external situation looks the same, but the mind > > and heart will be lifted and transformed to a place of peace, acceptance > > and a fresh perspective. . . i believe in the Course of Miracles this is > > the ever present miracle that is waiting for us in every situation. .. > > .the Child of Spirit has learned to transcend the karmic world by > > calling on the grace which is greater than the egoic mind that wants to > > figure it out. . . and this is something that can quickly take us from > > fear to love. . .the most powerful words i know are " Come Holy Spirt " > > or " Come Holy Mother " lift me to your heart and to your mind. . .it is > > that simple. .. . .from fear to love. . . > > > > > I have asked for help many times, for answers, for help, for transformation, and the only thing I've come to is: do you (Shakti) really love me? and the ultimate: who am i? I've received nothing, I've begged and pleaded to Her, and I don't even think She's listening. I'm actually really wondering if she's even here to help me. before I received the K, I was having deep spiritual experiences where I actually felt the truth of the power of now. and this was less than a year of starting meditation. And I felt joy for no reason. Since She has activated in me it's been lonely, extremely lonely. For the first time in my life, before K activated, I actually really enjoyed the company of my family, I was actually becoming friends with them. then I move away, have my K activate and loose my best friend in the process, come back home to regroup and it seems I've already lost any sense of deep relationship with my family. I don't know, I sometimes wonder if this is even a blessing... > craig > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 13, 2009 Report Share Posted May 13, 2009 Dear Craig, If we are to recieve the Holy Fire, we are going to be tested by fire..when i was activated, circumstances and events conspired to take me away from my family...the most precious for me..i had to come here in the USA to work..its been four years since the last time i was with my 6 beautiful sons. All we can do is to trust and have faith in the love of God because i believe that this union this oneness with the ALL will lead to much greater love to all that we hold dear in this world.. your brother in the path, edgar kundaflame <kundaflame Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2009 7:50:17 PM Re: 2 Questions. . .sparrow synthesis. . . > i have found one short cut that is profound and simple. . . this one i> can testify with certainity. . .it is impossible to call on the Holy> Spirit (which i believe is another name for Kundalini Ma) and not> receive assistance. . .it is the function and purpose of the Holy Spirit> to guide and be there for us in the fullest and most loving manner. .> .always She has our highest good. . . we are given free will so we have> to give permission and ask for guidance. . .there has never been a time > when i asked for assistance that a transformation has not occured. .> .often times times the external situation looks the same, but the mind> and heart will be lifted and transformed to a place of peace, acceptance> and a fresh perspective. . . i believe in the Course of Miracles this is> the ever present miracle that is waiting for us in every situation. .> .the Child of Spirit has learned to transcend the karmic world by> calling on the grace which is greater than the egoic mind that wants to> figure it out. . . and this is something that can quickly take us from> fear to love. . .the most powerful words i know are "Come Holy Spirt"> or "Come Holy Mother" lift me to your heart and to your mind. . .it is> that simple. .. . .from fear to love. . .I have asked for help many times, for answers, for help, for transformation, and the only thing I've come to is: do you (Shakti) really love me? and the ultimate: who am i? I've received nothing, I've begged and pleaded to Her, and I don't even think She's listening. I'm actually really wondering if she's even here to help me. before I received the K, I was having deep spiritual experiences where I actually felt the truth of the power of now. and this was less than a year of starting meditation. And I felt joy for no reason. Since She has activated in me it's been lonely, extremely lonely. For the first time in my life, before K activated, I actually really enjoyed the company of my family, I was actually becoming friends with them. then I move away, have my K activate and loose my best friend in the process, come back home to regroup and it seems I've already lost any sense of deep relationship with my family. I don't know, I sometimes wonder if this is even a blessing...craig Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 13, 2009 Report Share Posted May 13, 2009 thank you dear Edgar, it's weird, to finally know what it feels like to miss my family after so many years of trying to get away from them (don't have kids of my own, only siblings and parents), it was remarkable. I finally felt connection with the person that gave birth to me and to a brother that I for so long shunned. But now my feelings of connectedness have gone not only with them but with Spirit as well. I'm trying to restore my connection with Spirit but don't exactly know how yet. Right now I'm trying to see God in all of nature and beings, I figured that's a good place to start... craig , Edgar Alan Elango <Edgar_BNP wrote: > > Dear Craig, > > If we are to recieve the Holy Fire, we are going to be tested by fire..when i was activated, circumstances and events conspired to take me away from my family...the most precious for me..i had to come here in the USA to work..its been four years since the last time i was with my 6 beautiful sons. All we can do is to trust and have faith in the love of God because i believe that this union this oneness with the ALL will lead to much greater love to all that we hold dear in this world.. > > your brother in the path, > edgar > > > > ________________________________ > kundaflame <kundaflame > > Tuesday, May 12, 2009 7:50:17 PM > Re: 2 Questions. . .sparrow synthesis. . . > > i have found one short cut that is profound and simple. . . this one i > > can testify with certainity. . .it is impossible to call on the Holy > > Spirit (which i believe is another name for Kundalini Ma) and not > > receive assistance. . .it is the function and purpose of the Holy Spirit > > to guide and be there for us in the fullest and most loving manner. . > > .always She has our highest good. . . we are given free will so we have > > to give permission and ask for guidance. . .there has never been a time > > when i asked for assistance that a transformation has not occured. . > > .often times times the external situation looks the same, but the mind > > and heart will be lifted and transformed to a place of peace, acceptance > > and a fresh perspective. . . i believe in the Course of Miracles this is > > the ever present miracle that is waiting for us in every situation. . > > .the Child of Spirit has learned to transcend the karmic world by > > calling on the grace which is greater than the egoic mind that wants to > > figure it out. . . and this is something that can quickly take us from > > fear to love. . .the most powerful words i know are " Come Holy Spirt " > > or " Come Holy Mother " lift me to your heart and to your mind. . .it is > > that simple. .. . .from fear to love. . . > > I have asked for help many times, for answers, for help, for transformation, and the only thing I've come to is: do you (Shakti) really love me? and the ultimate: who am i? I've received nothing, I've begged and pleaded to Her, and I don't even think She's listening. I'm actually really wondering if she's even here to help me. before I received the K, I was having deep spiritual experiences where I actually felt the truth of the power of now. and this was less than a year of starting meditation. And I felt joy for no reason. Since She has activated in me it's been lonely, extremely lonely. For the first time in my life, before K activated, I actually really enjoyed the company of my family, I was actually becoming friends with them. then I move away, have my K activate and loose my best friend in the process, come back home to regroup and it seems I've already lost any sense of deep relationship with my family. I don't know, I sometimes wonder if this is > even a blessing... > craig > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 13, 2009 Report Share Posted May 13, 2009 I must say its not only a good place to start...but it is THE place we all start.... blessings to all... edgar kundaflame <kundaflame Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2009 9:03:49 AM Re: 2 Questions. . .sparrow synthesis. . . thank you dear Edgar, it's weird, to finally know what it feels like to miss my family after so many years of trying to get away from them (don't have kids of my own, only siblings and parents), it was remarkable. I finally felt connection with the person that gave birth to me and to a brother that I for so long shunned. But now my feelings of connectedness have gone not only with them but with Spirit as well. I'm trying to restore my connection with Spirit but don't exactly know how yet. Right now I'm trying to see God in all of nature and beings, I figured that's a good place to start...craig Recent Activity 13 New Members 81 New PhotosVisit Your Group Give Back for Good Get inspired by a good cause. Y! Toolbar Get it Free! easy 1-click access to your groups. Start a group in 3 easy steps. Connect with others. .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 13, 2009 Report Share Posted May 13, 2009 Craig, I too have had some very rough moments in this process where I question why it ever started. Growth is not easy by any means. I have come to realize that although we don't understand the "why" as we are going through certain stages, it is all for our higher good. Sometimes what is needed is faith and surrender even though we might not be "seeing" progress or understanding where we are headed. I have been in the midst of one of these cycles myself. I kept fighting against it, but finally broke down and surrendered to it. I have no idea where I am headed right now, but I am ok with that for the first time. I started feeling better as soon as I gave in and accepted that I don't know where this is leading but am trusting that it is for my highest good. I have made peace with it. We can't demand answers or the way we receive them (though I have tried this, lol). We are always receiving guidance and answers but don't always recognize them, especially if they are not what we wanted/expected to hear. Sometimes silence IS an answer. Wishing you peaceful acceptance. Hugs, Sarita , "kundaflame" <kundaflame wrote:> > I have asked for help many times, for answers, for help, for transformation, and the only thing I've come to is: do you (Shakti) really love me? and the ultimate: who am i? I've received nothing, I've begged and pleaded to Her, and I don't even think She's listening. I'm actually really wondering if she's even here to help me. before I received the K, I was having deep spiritual experiences where I actually felt the truth of the power of now. and this was less than a year of starting meditation. And I felt joy for no reason. Since She has activated in me it's been lonely, extremely lonely. For the first time in my life, before K activated, I actually really enjoyed the company of my family, I was actually becoming friends with them. then I move away, have my K activate and loose my best friend in the process, come back home to regroup and it seems I've already lost any sense of deep relationship with my family. I don't know, I sometimes wonder if this is even a blessing...> craig> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 13, 2009 Report Share Posted May 13, 2009 Hello kundaflame, It is impossible to be separated from our source/spirit. Each person is like a stream of consciousness that has pooled from a flood of joyous light. I have suffered a great deal in the past because I couldn't remake the world as I wanted it. There was much I would've have wanted to change in regards to my family. As I surrender and accept my powerlessness I see something that is more than I ever could have hoped for or conceived. Spirit is the reality I know and it is in all things, and as real and fulfilling my journey is I know that others around me are having just as rich an experience. I can feel and see my own spirit in my family and all life. It is beautiful. It may be that we are so finely connected, so intricately woven, so embedded within the other, that the journey creates experiences of feeling disconnected. We are so connected we don't even realize we are completely immersed in the oneness of love . As they say, like a fish swimming in water. You are so fortunate to have perspective on your connections. As with anything, the mystery of life makes things very interesting. There are so many levels and relationships. Such is the case with family. I appreciate your share. It helps me to reflect on my own family. I'm so grateful for my ordinary life. I see through my eyes, my family's eyes, and I have my journey and my family's journey. Then there is our relationship with the world, the excitement of how everything unfolds. Blessings to you KB , " kundaflame " <kundaflame wrote: > > thank you dear Edgar, > it's weird, to finally know what it feels like to miss my family after so many years of trying to get away from them (don't have kids of my own, only siblings and parents), it was remarkable. I finally felt connection with the person that gave birth to me and to a brother that I for so long shunned. But now my feelings of connectedness have gone not only with them but with Spirit as well. I'm trying to restore my connection with Spirit but don't exactly know how yet. Right now I'm trying to see God in all of nature and beings, I figured that's a good place to start... > craig > > > > > , Edgar Alan Elango <Edgar_BNP@> wrote: > > > > Dear Craig, > > > > If we are to recieve the Holy Fire, we are going to be tested by fire..when i was activated, circumstances and events conspired to take me away from my family...the most precious for me..i had to come here in the USA to work..its been four years since the last time i was with my 6 beautiful sons. All we can do is to trust and have faith in the love of God because i believe that this union this oneness with the ALL will lead to much greater love to all that we hold dear in this world.. > > > > your brother in the path, > > edgar > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > kundaflame <kundaflame@> > > > > Tuesday, May 12, 2009 7:50:17 PM > > Re: 2 Questions. . .sparrow synthesis. . . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > i have found one short cut that is profound and simple. . . this one i > > > can testify with certainity. . .it is impossible to call on the Holy > > > Spirit (which i believe is another name for Kundalini Ma) and not > > > receive assistance. . .it is the function and purpose of the Holy Spirit > > > to guide and be there for us in the fullest and most loving manner. . > > > .always She has our highest good. . . we are given free will so we have > > > to give permission and ask for guidance. . .there has never been a time > > > when i asked for assistance that a transformation has not occured. . > > > .often times times the external situation looks the same, but the mind > > > and heart will be lifted and transformed to a place of peace, acceptance > > > and a fresh perspective. . . i believe in the Course of Miracles this is > > > the ever present miracle that is waiting for us in every situation. . > > > .the Child of Spirit has learned to transcend the karmic world by > > > calling on the grace which is greater than the egoic mind that wants to > > > figure it out. . . and this is something that can quickly take us from > > > fear to love. . .the most powerful words i know are " Come Holy Spirt " > > > or " Come Holy Mother " lift me to your heart and to your mind. . .it is > > > that simple. .. . .from fear to love. . . > > > > I have asked for help many times, for answers, for help, for transformation, and the only thing I've come to is: do you (Shakti) really love me? and the ultimate: who am i? I've received nothing, I've begged and pleaded to Her, and I don't even think She's listening. I'm actually really wondering if she's even here to help me. before I received the K, I was having deep spiritual experiences where I actually felt the truth of the power of now. and this was less than a year of starting meditation. And I felt joy for no reason. Since She has activated in me it's been lonely, extremely lonely. For the first time in my life, before K activated, I actually really enjoyed the company of my family, I was actually becoming friends with them. then I move away, have my K activate and loose my best friend in the process, come back home to regroup and it seems I've already lost any sense of deep relationship with my family. I don't know, I sometimes wonder if this is > > even a blessing... > > craig > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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