God or, a god?- 1-2-3 of God (correction)

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, " kundaflame "

<kundaflame wrote:

>

> Hey Andy,

> I was struggling with this as well especially with my rejection with

religion in high school. Then I came across a meditaion/contemplation

called the " 1-2-3 of God. " the 1-2-3 means all the known human

perspectives that we have and can relate to God. The " 3 " being third

person perspective as God as an It, for example out in nature, in the

environment, in the food, etc. Then there's the " 2 " being 2nd person

perspective of God as You, or Thou. This is where prayer, surrender and

humility sets in for me, to face the Infinite and a very intimate 2nd

person encounter. My heart breaks open and it feels like I can love to

infinity when I allow the light and love of God to shine on me in the

most intimate way. Then there's the " 1 " being first person perspective

of God as my own Witness and primordial Self. A deep realization the God

and I are not separate but one and the same. Each time I rest in this

awareness it gets deeper and deeper.

>

> I have learned that most religions emphasize the 2nd person

perspective of God and sometimes the 3rd person perspective, but it's

extremely taboo to identify with the 1st person perspective of God as I

AM. And...(this was my case) spiritual people, without religion, often

emphasize the 1st person perspective of God and 3rd person perspective

of God but totally negate and reject God in the 2nd person perspective,

throwing the baby out with the bath water. Too often (and this was my

case as well) when one doesn't have a 2nd person perspective

relationship with God, instead of going from the small self to the big

Self, one goes from the small ego to the big ego (which was my case as

well). Restoring my 2nd person perspective with God has been a really

humbling experience and each encounter with God as the infinite Thou, my

heart breaks open wider and wider and I realize how vast, how

unknowable, how intimate God really is.

>

> My point being that it's important to cultivate all 3 perspectives of

God and not say God is only 1 or 2 of these perspectives, that would be

trying to limit the Infinite, lol!

>

> Well I hope this has helped, coming across this for myself has been

truly a blessing and quite transforming.

>

> blessings

> craig

>

> Here's a short version of this meditation and you can contemplate it

for 1 minute or I like to meditate on it for 20 mintues to let it really

sink in.

>

> ***

> The 1-2-3 of God

>

> At any moment, you can experience God as a 3rd-person " It, " a

2nd-person " Thou, " or a 1st-person " I. " Simply repeat the following

sentences quietly to yourself, letting each perspective arise gently and

naturally.

>

> ---I contemplate God as all that is arising-the Great Perfection of

this and every moment.

> ---I behold and commune with God as an infinite Thou, who bestows all

blessings and complete forgiveness on me, and before whom I offer

infinite gratitude and devotion.

> ---I rest in God as my own Witness and primordial Self, the Big Mind

that is one with all.

> ---And in this ever-present, easy, and natural state, I go on about my

day.

>

> If you wish, you can replace the word " God " with any word of your

choice that evokes an Ultimate Being. It could be " Spirit, " " Jehovah, "

" Allah, " " the Lord, " or " the One. "

> *****

>

>

>

>

> , " andyrpreston "

andyrpreston@ wrote:

> >

> > Hey guys, been a while since I last posted but have been focusing on

a lot of personal changes. Hope everyone is well!

> >

> > I have been tussling with the idea of God in my mind of late. This

is the part of this process thats been the biggest change for me. I have

for many years " prided " myself on a very logcial and scientific approach

to life, shunning the idea of God and religion with a whole barrage of

well thought out arguments. Im sure you've met the type!

> >

> > Well, to find myself suddenly having such a u-turn in thoughts and

belief has resulted in me having to look closely again at my beliefs and

thoughts and to rethink everything I thought I knew.

> >

> > The problem it has left me with is identifying with God. I don't

know where to start. I feel false praying when I dont know who Im

praying to. I feel like Im writing to someone Ive never met before and I

feel like a fraud after so many years of rejecting the idea of prayer.

> >

> > This post isn't a question, nor is it me asking for an answer. Im

guessing I need to just open myself up and see where my own feelings

take me. But Im interested to see how other people feel and if they

encountered similar feelings when they were suddenly presented with the

concept of Kundalini in their lives?

> >

> > Love to you all and my best wishes

> >

> > Andy

> >

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