Guest guest Posted June 2, 2009 Report Share Posted June 2, 2009 I woke up this morning to lots of thunder and lightening. It was so bad I decided I better get up and shut down my computer and unplug it to be on the safe side. Then I went to the living room and turned one the TV to see what was happening. The weather showed clear sky with poosible thunder storms this afternoon. By then it was dawning on me that there was not any more thunder and lightening going on outside. Hehe! I went and looked anyways. Not a cloud in the sky. Blessings & love, Linda Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 3, 2009 Report Share Posted June 3, 2009 Wow, Linda, that sounds freaky! I cant believe it was so real you ran to turn your computer off, thats real funny. Lets hope the next dream is of the best massage ever and that you wakie up feeling refreshed , smelling of aroma therapy oils and ache free :-)) heehee elektra x x x Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 3, 2009 Report Share Posted June 3, 2009 Hi Elektra, I think the abyss dream and this one is tied in together some how and they are about this illness I'm having. I had the abyss dream the morning of the day I began feeling ill. That morning there was a bad thunderstorm and after the storm was over it was so nice out I went for a long walk on a new nature trail that is being built right here in the middle of Victoria. It begans on the main road right back of my house. I was having so much fun I walk the whole thing...there and back which was about 5 miles. On the last part back they did not have the lights working yet and I had to walk that part in the dark, nothing but a little crested moon to light the way. I enjoyed the walking in the dark though, it was fun. My chest was beginning to wheeze by the time I got home and I woke up real sick that night. The days between then and now all went together. I did not realize so much time had past until my daughter pointed it out to me yesterday and told me I needed to get to a doctor. The thing is though, when I woke up after the thunderstorm dream yesterday I am feeling better and am on the mends. I even did the Tibetans yesterday for the first time in a month or so. The whole last months seems a blur to me, with the headaches, the falling down and the neck, shoulder and arm pain and the funerals and everything. Today, even though there is still a litte rattle in my chest, I am finally feel like myself again. I don't remember any dream from last night, but I slept sound and hard. I did use some aroma theray oils yesterday. hehe! I am wondering if it is kundalini that making my dreams so real like. It is a little freaky. The pressure in my back was strong yesterday, doing the Tibetans relieved that somewhat. I do remember now waking up sometime in the night with a headache and my 6th chakra pulsing. Blessings & love, Linda , Elektra Fire <elektra.fire wrote: > > Wow, Linda, that sounds freaky! I cant believe it was so real you ran to turn your computer off, thats real funny. > Lets hope the next dream is of the best massage ever and that you wakie up feeling refreshed , smelling of aroma therapy oils and ache free :-)) > heehee > elektra x x x > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 3, 2009 Report Share Posted June 3, 2009 Namaste dear Linda. . . interesting dream. . . sure there are a number of interpetations for lighting, but i was told by a Hindu priest that the dream of lighting is most auspicious, because the lightening symbolizes Shiva. And of course Shiva is the Cohort of (Parashakti, Durga, Kali) Here is a bit of a definition of Shiva and was just going to relate the image of the lightening but after reading it myself thought of your previous post from this last weekend and the abyss the lightening with Shiva seems to be an apt dream symbol for you at this time in your journey, so am going to post the complete description of Shiva. Shiva: Shiva is the original unwashed, cannabis-smoking, aimlessly-wandering flower-child of Hindu Mythology. No other God of Hindu Myths has attracted as much controversy as Shiva. Shiva has retained some of the characteristics of the preVedic fertility God who was also deemed the Lord of the Beasts. His power lies in not initiating sacrifice but in performing unimaginable austerities by which He can quell the entire universe including all the Gods. Thus he is called Mahadeva or " The Greatest God " . His representation as a yogi is a man with a snow-white face dressed in a tiger-skin and with matted hair. At once Shiva is both the destroyer as well as the creator. His greatest rivalry is not with Vishnu, the preserver, but with Brahma, the creator, whom He often rivals. His supreme creative powers are celebrated in the worship of the Lingam or phallus just as His consorts are worshipped through the female genital or Yoni, which is the source of female energy and always associated with Him. In this aspect as the Lord of feminine energy – Shakti - Shiva utilizes His consorts to slay demons. Shiva's Unmanifest Masculine Shakti is what the Shakta Hindus seek to achieve through worship of the Shakti Goddesses. Shiva's boons are always positive and He is said to be the giver of long life and the God of medicine. His help is also indispensable for warriors and other traders of violent craft like robbers, of whom He is the patron God. In a measure, Shiva's boons are sometimes as indiscriminate as Brahma's and cause as much trouble because He is reputed to be so easily pleased that He will satisfy anyone at all who will care to show any empathy towards Him. Shiva is also the god to whom all the Gods turn to whenever there is something unpleasant to be done. Thus, at the time of the churning of the ocean, when poison welled out of the mouth of Vasuki the snake it was Shiva who saved the universe from its venom by trapping the poison in His throat, which turned blue and earned Him the name of Nilkantha. It is also He who gifted to the earth the seven rivers that water the land and make life possible there. Apart from His blue throat, Shiva is represented as a fair man with five heads, four arms and three eyes. The third eye at the center of his forehead is a powerful weapon and He kills with it by turning it upon His enemies and turning them to ashes. It is this eye that He uses to periodically destroy the universe to cleanse it and prepare it for the next age. As the destroyer Shiva has many weapons: Pinaki, His trident, a symbol of lightening characterizing Shiva as the God of storms; a sword; a bow called Ajagava; and a club with a skull at the end, called Khatwanga. Shiva also has snakes twined round His neck and body and, of course, the moon caught in His hair to keep the Moon-God Soma out of mischief. Shiva is the Lord of dance and rhythm. As the Lord of Rhythms Shiva sustains the Universe which requires a certain rhythm to remain existent. The God dances with His associates the ghosts and other creatures of the nether regions, often in cemeteries. Shiva's steed is Nandi, the bull, another potent symbol of fertility. Shiva's tandava dance, the most famous, often found portrayed in statuary and pictures, is a dance of destruction. When destroying Shiva's principal aspect is that of time and when creating it is that of light, which His Lingam is reputed to emanate. The symmetry of the Hindu conept is best manifest through Shiva. What is evil is ultimately destroyed by time. What is innately good survives all time and is eternal. Thus, Shiva is also named Mahakaleswar - Lord of Eternal Time. He survives all time and destroys all that is evil either Himself or through His Female Shakti Consorts. Shiva's aloofness from the world with His smoking cannabis (to aid His Yogic concentration) in contrast to His reputation as a Supreme Male Procreator in association with His Shakti Consorts makes Him an exemplary male who performs the worldly duty of procreation but withdraws thereafter to keep Himself pure from the iniquity of worldly affairs. " love and light ordinary sparrow , " Linda " <crazycats711 wrote: > > I woke up this morning to lots of thunder and lightening. It was so bad I decided I better get up and shut down my computer and unplug it to be on the safe side. Then I went to the living room and turned one the TV to see what was happening. The weather showed clear sky with poosible thunder storms this afternoon. By then it was dawning on me that there was not any more thunder and lightening going on outside. Hehe! I went and looked anyways. Not a cloud in the sky. > > Blessings & love, > Linda > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 3, 2009 Report Share Posted June 3, 2009 Namaste dear Linda interesting dream experience. . .i tried to send a similar response before but guess it got lost in ether land. . .as i read your dream i thought of something a Hindu priest once told me; he said that to dream of lightening was very auspicious, for the lightening represents Shiva. .. ..i have often had flashes of lightening in meditation and gave come to associate those with the Shiva aspect. . . i will copy a bit about Shiva and lightening symbol. . .it seems to me that the lightening really relates with the topic you brought up last week. . . and have also placed song lyrics about Shiva and lightening. . .. Shiva: Shiva is the original unwashed, cannabis-smoking, aimlessly-wandering flower-child of Hindu Mythology. No other God of Hindu Myths has attracted as much controversy as Shiva. Shiva has retained some of the characteristics of the preVedic fertility God who was also deemed the Lord of the Beasts. His power lies in not initiating sacrifice but in performing unimaginable austerities by which He can quell the entire universe including all the Gods. Thus he is called Mahadeva or " The Greatest God " . His representation as a yogi is a man with a snow-white face dressed in a tiger-skin and with matted hair. At once Shiva is both the destroyer as well as the creator. His greatest rivalry is not with Vishnu, the preserver, but with Brahma, the creator, whom He often rivals. His supreme creative powers are celebrated in the worship of the Lingam or phallus just as His consorts are worshipped through the female genital or Yoni, which is the source of female energy and always associated with Him. In this aspect as the Lord of feminine energy – Shakti - Shiva utilizes His consorts to slay demons. Shiva's Unmanifest Masculine Shakti is what the Shakta Hindus seek to achieve through worship of the Shakti Goddesses. Shiva's boons are always positive and He is said to be the giver of long life and the God of medicine. His help is also indispensable for warriors and other traders of violent craft like robbers, of whom He is the patron God. In a measure, Shiva's boons are sometimes as indiscriminate as Brahma's and cause as much trouble because He is reputed to be so easily pleased that He will satisfy anyone at all who will care to show any empathy towards Him. Shiva is also the god to whom all the Gods turn to whenever there is something unpleasant to be done. Thus, at the time of the churning of the ocean, when poison welled out of the mouth of Vasuki the snake it was Shiva who saved the universe from its venom by trapping the poison in His throat, which turned blue and earned Him the name of Nilkantha. It is also He who gifted to the earth the seven rivers that water the land and make life possible there. Apart from His blue throat, Shiva is represented as a fair man with five heads, four arms and three eyes. The third eye at the center of his forehead is a powerful weapon and He kills with it by turning it upon His enemies and turning them to ashes. It is this eye that He uses to periodically destroy the universe to cleanse it and prepare it for the next age. As the destroyer Shiva has many weapons: Pinaki, His trident, a symbol of lightening characterizing Shiva as the God of storms; a sword; a bow called Ajagava; and a club with a skull at the end, called Khatwanga. Shiva also has snakes twined round His neck and body and, of course, the moon caught in His hair to keep the Moon-God Soma out of mischief. Shiva is the Lord of dance and rhythm. As the Lord of Rhythms Shiva sustains the Universe which requires a certain rhythm to remain existent. The God dances with His associates the ghosts and other creatures of the nether regions, often in cemeteries. Shiva's steed is Nandi, the bull, another potent symbol of fertility. Shiva's tandava dance, the most famous, often found portrayed in statuary and pictures, is a dance of destruction. When destroying Shiva's principal aspect is that of time and when creating it is that of light, which His Lingam is reputed to emanate. The symmetry of the Hindu conept is best manifest through Shiva. What is evil is ultimately destroyed by time. What is innately good survives all time and is eternal. Thus, Shiva is also named Mahakaleswar - Lord of Eternal Time. He survives all time and destroys all that is evil either Himself or through His Female Shakti Consorts. Shiva's aloofness from the world with His smoking cannabis (to aid His Yogic concentration) in contrast to His reputation as a Supreme Male Procreator in association with His Shakti Consorts makes Him an exemplary male who performs the worldly duty of procreation but withdraws thereafter to keep Himself pure from the iniquity of worldly affairs. Please note that the ancients did not know that cannabis is an extremely harmful narcotic and should not be used under any circumstances. This is a song called Eye of Shiva that you might also find interesting? Triunity of the space, inside the sacred maze. Shiva in the cosmic dance, the divine eye gaze. Eye of Shiva, Dance the world! Lightening flashes from your eye, destroy the illusion. All destruction by a glance, set the world in a trance. Inside the sacred maze, Shivas cosmic dance Bom Bom Shiva Bom Shankara Bom Bom Shiva Bom Rudra Bom Bom Shiva Vama Chara Kala Tattwa Great Eye of Shiva, thunderbolt Rudra, unveil Lady Maya. Great Eye of Shiva, dance the world into the cosmic maze of outer space. unveil Lady Maya. love and light ordinary sparrow , " Linda " <crazycats711 wrote: > > I woke up this morning to lots of thunder and lightening. It was so bad I decided I better get up and shut down my computer and unplug it to be on the safe side. Then I went to the living room and turned one the TV to see what was happening. The weather showed clear sky with poosible thunder storms this afternoon. By then it was dawning on me that there was not any more thunder and lightening going on outside. Hehe! I went and looked anyways. Not a cloud in the sky. > > Blessings & love, > Linda > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 4, 2009 Report Share Posted June 4, 2009 Thanks you, Ordinaraysparrow, for the great information about Shiva and for your time in the double posting when you thought the first one was lost. The more I read about the Hindu religion the more similarities I am seeing in it and the christian religion. From your descriptions of Shiva I see much the same as the christian's Jesus. It is like they are one and the same being. The Hindu religion is a bit more colorful and descriptive, I must say. Hearing that wonderful voice agian in my dream has brought me much peace. Also, after watching a Hindu video Tuesday that I just happened upon on Youtube. I have a whole different view/understanding about the abyss/void/darkness. Going by this Hindu person on the video the abyss/darkness is were we go each night when we are in deep sleep rejuvenating ourselves. It goes into a lot more than that of course. Anyone interesting in the video, below is the link. He talks about Kala and how she relates to the darkness. When first posted about Kala a way back, I didn't even want to think about that Hindu goddess with a sword, cutting off peoples heads. hehe! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B676PfadDsM & feature=related Thanks for the Eye of Shiva song, I did find it interesting and meaningful. Blessings and love to you ordinarysparrow. I have read all you post to everyone and had gained much from them and I am very glad you have joined us here in this wonderful K family. Namaste Linda , " ordinarysparrow " <ordinarysparrow wrote: > > Namaste > > dear Linda > > interesting dream experience. . .i tried to send a similar response > before but guess it got lost in ether land. . .as i read your dream i > thought of something a Hindu priest once told me; he said that to dream > of lightening was very auspicious, for the lightening represents Shiva. > . ..i have often had flashes of lightening in meditation and gave come > to associate those with the Shiva aspect. . . > > i will copy a bit about Shiva and lightening symbol. . .it seems to me > that the lightening really relates with the topic you brought up last > week. . . and have also placed song lyrics about Shiva and lightening. . > . > > > > Shiva: > > Shiva is the original unwashed, cannabis-smoking, aimlessly-wandering > flower-child of Hindu Mythology. No other God of Hindu Myths has > attracted as much controversy as Shiva. > > Shiva has retained some of the characteristics of the preVedic fertility > God who was also deemed the Lord of the Beasts. His power lies in not > initiating sacrifice but in performing unimaginable austerities by which > He can quell the entire universe including all the Gods. Thus he is > called Mahadeva or " The Greatest God " . His representation as a > yogi is a man with a snow-white face dressed in a tiger-skin and with > matted hair. > > At once Shiva is both the destroyer as well as the creator. His greatest > rivalry is not with Vishnu, the preserver, but with Brahma, the creator, > whom He often rivals. His supreme creative powers are celebrated in the > worship of the Lingam or phallus just as His consorts are worshipped > through the female genital or Yoni, which is the source of female energy > and always associated with Him. In this aspect as the Lord of feminine > energy – Shakti - Shiva utilizes His consorts to slay demons. > Shiva's Unmanifest Masculine Shakti is what the Shakta Hindus seek to > achieve through worship of the Shakti Goddesses. > > Shiva's boons are always positive and He is said to be the giver of > long life and the God of medicine. His help is also indispensable for > warriors and other traders of violent craft like robbers, of whom He is > the patron God. In a measure, Shiva's boons are sometimes as > indiscriminate as Brahma's and cause as much trouble because He is > reputed to be so easily pleased that He will satisfy anyone at all who > will care to show any empathy towards Him. > > Shiva is also the god to whom all the Gods turn to whenever there is > something unpleasant to be done. Thus, at the time of the churning of > the ocean, when poison welled out of the mouth of Vasuki the snake it > was Shiva who saved the universe from its venom by trapping the poison > in His throat, which turned blue and earned Him the name of Nilkantha. > It is also He who gifted to the earth the seven rivers that water the > land and make life possible there. > > Apart from His blue throat, Shiva is represented as a fair man with five > heads, four arms and three eyes. The third eye at the center of his > forehead is a powerful weapon and He kills with it by turning it upon > His enemies and turning them to ashes. It is this eye that He uses to > periodically destroy the universe to cleanse it and prepare it for the > next age. > > As the destroyer Shiva has many weapons: Pinaki, His trident, a symbol > of lightening characterizing Shiva as the God of storms; a sword; a bow > called Ajagava; and a club with a skull at the end, called Khatwanga. > Shiva also has snakes twined round His neck and body and, of course, the > moon caught in His hair to keep the Moon-God Soma out of mischief. > > Shiva is the Lord of dance and rhythm. As the Lord of Rhythms Shiva > sustains the Universe which requires a certain rhythm to remain > existent. The God dances with His associates the ghosts and other > creatures of the nether regions, often in cemeteries. Shiva's steed > is Nandi, the bull, another potent symbol of fertility. Shiva's > tandava dance, the most famous, often found portrayed in statuary and > pictures, is a dance of destruction. > > When destroying Shiva's principal aspect is that of time and when > creating it is that of light, which His Lingam is reputed to emanate. > The symmetry of the Hindu conept is best manifest through Shiva. What is > evil is ultimately destroyed by time. What is innately good survives all > time and is eternal. Thus, Shiva is also named Mahakaleswar - Lord of > Eternal Time. He survives all time and destroys all that is evil either > Himself or through His Female Shakti Consorts. > > Shiva's aloofness from the world with His smoking cannabis (to aid > His Yogic concentration) in contrast to His reputation as a Supreme Male > Procreator in association with His Shakti Consorts makes Him an > exemplary male who performs the worldly duty of procreation but > withdraws thereafter to keep Himself pure from the iniquity of worldly > affairs. > > Please note that the ancients did not know that cannabis is an extremely > harmful narcotic and should not be used under any circumstances. > > > > > This is a song called Eye of Shiva that you might also find interesting? > > Triunity of the space, inside the sacred maze. > Shiva in the cosmic dance, the divine eye gaze. > > Eye of Shiva, Dance the world! > > Lightening flashes from your eye, > destroy the illusion. > > All destruction by a glance, set the world in a trance. > Inside the sacred maze, Shivas cosmic dance > > Bom Bom Shiva Bom Shankara > Bom Bom Shiva Bom Rudra > Bom Bom Shiva Vama Chara > Kala Tattwa > > Great Eye of Shiva, > thunderbolt Rudra, unveil Lady Maya. > Great Eye of Shiva, > dance the world into the cosmic maze of outer space. > unveil Lady Maya. > > love and light > ordinary sparrow > > > , " Linda " > <crazycats711@> wrote: > > > > I woke up this morning to lots of thunder and lightening. It was so > bad I decided I better get up and shut down my computer and unplug it to > be on the safe side. Then I went to the living room and turned one the > TV to see what was happening. The weather showed clear sky with poosible > thunder storms this afternoon. By then it was dawning on me that there > was not any more thunder and lightening going on outside. Hehe! I went > and looked anyways. Not a cloud in the sky. > > > > Blessings & love, > > Linda > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 4, 2009 Report Share Posted June 4, 2009 I think you are correct in thinking that the kundalini brings much more life and depth to your dreams, and also lucidity. My dreams are so epic and real seeming , depending on the moon cycle and my own cycle they become more or less pronounced. Sorry to hear you've been so under the weather recently, everyone is going through a lot of bodily issues, I really think that its the new energy coming in affecting us all. My friends sister's husband just dropped dead out of the blue the other day, in his 40's. God rest his soul, shocking how often these things are happening. Crazee days but exciting times. Wishing you the very best of everything dear Linda, blessings elektra x x x Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 4, 2009 Report Share Posted June 4, 2009 @@@ My friends sister's husband just dropped dead out of the blue the other day, in his 40's.@@@ I have been getting news of a lot of these types death lately. Lots of people leaving the earth. Linda --- Elektra Fire <elektra.fire wrote: > > I think you are correct in thinking that the kundalini brings much more life and depth to your dreams, and also lucidity. > My dreams are so epic and real seeming , depending on the moon cycle and my own cycle they become more or less pronounced. > > Sorry to hear you've been so under the weather recently, everyone is going through a lot of bodily issues, I really think that its the new energy coming in affecting us all. > My friends sister's husband just dropped dead out of the blue the other day, in his 40's. > God rest his soul, shocking how often these things are happening. > > Crazee days but exciting times. > > Wishing you the very best of everything dear Linda, > blessings > elektra x x x > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 4, 2009 Report Share Posted June 4, 2009 dear Linda there are many similarities, my teacher from India says the Shiva energetic is more like the energetic of the God in the Old testament, and Krishna is more like the Christ energetic. . . I personally energetically feel two very separate God energetics in the writing of the Old Testament and even the New Testament, and for me that explains the often contradictions. . . .I started out as a fundamentalist Southern Baptist and it was a process of peeling that programming before i could approach the world of spirituality and K Ma with encountering some layers of the old fear programming. . . but through the years K Ma's allowance of Eastern spirituality has only brought a much deeper love and understanding for the Christ and his teachings. Nowadays when i read the parables i sense the K Ma teachings time and time again. . .but then i think the Holy Spirit is K Ma. . . I remember the first time i deeply grasped that this awesome/at times awful force was actually the Holy Spirit of God, and i was amazed in holy tremble. . . i had said it before but to really let it sink in. . . .. my teachers from India have each made the comment that in Indian spirituality there is only One Supreme Source, even thought many in the Western world believe they have millions of separate Gods. . . the way i have come to see it is that the Christians have a three sided Trinity and the East has a huge multifaceted disco like sphere where each deity reflects an aspect of the One orb. . . Linda this last weekend when you where speaking of the void, i considered writing several times, but i find that when i think of the void there is a tendency to enter the void. . .the void has been an ongoing experience for me. . .starting in child hood i would have dreams and be taken in the void. . .It would start of with me thinking i was going to a movie theater in a large complex that resembled a Los Vegas casino with flashing lights and would get on the elevator and the bottom would drop out and i would find myself in a underworld that expanded without limit. . .in the dream i would be instructed to walk a path and on the left and on the right was the most horrific vile degradation known to human. . .i would be shown that i must keep walking and not be snared by the darkness, to fully see its reality, but to hold to the light on the small narrow path up the middle. . .for years i would wake up screaming with the images and would go back to sleep and be given another beautiful dream of a sublime beautiful setting in nature with wild animals near and dear friends and would sit by a crystal waterfall and release through love and forgiveness anything that had been found in the underworld. . .like you the dreams where so very intense and real. Those where the beginning of what i called the abyss or void dreams. . ..everything was there. . . then in 95 when K Ma went to the crown, there it was like the crystal waterfall opened at the crown and i was bathed in the sweet spring of nectar. i entred the Void for forty days. . .for three days i was blind and could only see blackness and at times a cross would come floating through. . . .whatever the mind focused on was revealed in its fullness. .. .without edges. . .the universal mind was shown and allowed during those days, twenty days in the light and twenty days in the dark. . . the one that went in was not the one that emerged dripping with after birth. . . . While in the Void there were many teachers that gathered and gave instructions. . .there where teachers from all religions and many of them i did not know until later i began to explore Eastern spirituality and recognized them as Gurus from India that have made transition. . .and once again the prominent instruction had to do with walking the middle path up the middle and not becoming snared by either the right or the left, but to see them fully and to keep the focus on love and light. I began to realize that Jesus teaches the same thing, Love God, Love Self, and Love and Serve one another. . . There was continuous testing of holding to the middle path, and when i would allow the mind to get snared would be given a physical electrical shock. . ..and each time i failed the test the shock would become stronger. . .I think Ma was training me and knew that at times this child needed a bit of behavior mod. to keep on track. . . Phew mercy! i can be such a slow learner. . . then after emerging there where a a few months of intense synthesizing of the experience, but nowadays i find the void is accessible with just bringing it to mind. I can visit it but i do not live within it continuously. . . Julie brought up the issue that the void and abyss seemed different, and i think i understood her reference for there is also the entrance of moving into the black hole void and just being suspended in the most awesome embrace. . . .and then when i read what had to say about the abyss could truly relate also. . ..so there seems to be different expressions and levels that characterize the experience. . .but the variables that are consitent is it is always a place that expands the limits of my known everyday reality, and at first it was the opening to the world of maya and with all of its illusions, and then as those are seen for what they are then Ma lifts us to the space of Universal mind and i think there are levels of access to the Universal Mind. . .with a conditioning of being able to contain the experience and not to allow the egoic to attach to it either. . . but rather the process of an every increasing clearning of channel for the expression of the Holy Spirit/K Ma. . . even though i have gone through what is called K Ma i do not say i am Kundalini Awakened, for to me it is such an ongoing process, and have never felt the word Attainment. . ..because each time i go into the void whatever has been acquired soon expands. . . just this week i came across a myth by Walfrom a 12th century mystic and poet and it was about the Holy Grail. . .and for the last four nights i have lay awake until sunrise moving through the Void with layer upon layer of puzzle pieces about the Grail and the Arc of the Covenant. . ..and then during the day i try to synthesis it, and there is a much more difficult challenge for me, for my left brain struggles with finding words and expressions that are clear and concise. The poem that i had heard of long ago with reading Joseph Campbell was one of the references that came forth while in the Void, and it spoke deeply and was consistent with the lesson that the Void continues to take me into ever deeping levels. . . a brief description of the mythology by Walfrom. . . He writes of the Holy Grail and at one place he says the Grail or what he also calls the Arc of the Covenant was brought down by the Neutral Angels. . .He describes the war in Heaven between Light and Dark, Good and Evil, God's angles and Lucifer's angels. . . and the myth goes that the Grail was brought down by heaven through the middle by the neutral angels. . . All of this opened for me this weekend after hearing of Dr. Tiller's the Kansas abortion doctor's murder, whom i have meet and he is not a monster, and i was trying to see clear the views of both the right and the left and to find the place that i could honor both the opposing groups. . .for as much as i am pro-life that is how much i am pro-choice. . .so in the Void i keep being shown the connection with the Holy Grail and Kundalini Ma and her process, and it seems Her teachings for me is that everyone has the opportunity for the quest of the Holy Grail within. And conception is like the Arc of the Covenant within the body. . . conception is so very sacred yet and the Quest for the Grail demands choice. And it seems to me that in order to attain the Holy Grail we must be allowed the freedom of choice and to know the consequences both positive and negative and that is how we are transformed ... the only way the Grail is possilbe is when people live their path from deep within through the direct guidance within and then are able to find the Holy Grail is within. . .So perhaps every person and every conception has the potential for the transformation of the Christ within and that that transformation can only occur when a person claims the responsibility for each and every choice?. . . i know that is a ramble but often times the Void will open for me when i have a question that i am trying to find balance and honor for others. . . .and it seems to me that time and time again the same lesson comes forth for me in this life time at various levels in the Void. . .over and over again. . .embrace all. . .and dissolve duality. . .and this i am still being taught from the Void and life. . . . Mercy! this is why i was not going to reply when it comes to the Void it opens the door to so much and i cannot express the synthesis. . ..lol! . . .sorry. . .but thanks for allowing me to share and ponder this great mystery. . . Linda I am curious if you or others have experiened lessons being taught from the Void experience and how you have synthesised them. . . ..always for me what is the lesson here?. . .and like Julie my favorite place in the Void is the suspension of deep peace and dissolving into no thing. . . .so the Void seems connected to Universal Mind sometimes, and other times the collective unconscious, and other times Samadhi????? I wander if their are millions and millions of ways of teaching the most basis Truths, Love and Serve?. . . . I have not listened to your video yet, but look forward to watching it this evening. . .thanks for pointing to it. . .i have not read anything from the Eastern view about the void. . . Thank you Linda for the allowance of pondering the Void experience with others and yourself dear Sister. love and light ordinary sparrow , " Linda " <crazycats711 wrote: > > Thanks you, Ordinaraysparrow, for the great information about Shiva and for your time in the double posting when you thought the first one was lost. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 4, 2009 Report Share Posted June 4, 2009 Thank you so very much agian, Ordinarysparrow. All your post blow me away! I have saved this one to read over several times..there is so much there. I think I have already have a little taste of both side of the void. I experienced a few of the hell realms in a long dream. I don't remember if it took place before I became christian or after...it was about 30 something years ago, but remember all the details as if it was just last night. That dream was burned into my momery forever. I woke up screaming and kicking with that one. I did not experience the worse areas of those realms going by what I have read here and there. I have no desire to have a repeat of that nor to know any farther grotesqueness of those realms. I think I would be more able to handle it now though, if that is something I need to experience for whatever reason. In an out of body experience I have experienced the void much like Julie stated. I have not had a lot of experiences with it as you have, but have had a lot of lttle glimspes into the black nothingness. I like the sound of the void/darkness from that video I posted. There is another one by the same person where he gives a meditation technique on darkness. I agree with you, the answer to everything is " love and service " . Did you know the Golden rules is in almost all the religions in some form, even some ancient ones? I do try to keep love and service formost in my thoughts when dealing with others and circumstances. I see those as the two most important teachings of Jesus. http://www.religioustolerance.org/reciproc.htm It was interesting for me to read each one. @@@ I personally energetically feel two very separate God energetics in the writing of the Old Testament and even the New Testament, and for me that explains the often contradictions. . . @@@ When I come upon what seems a contradiction in the bible, I see it as something I am not fully understanding and search farther to know more about it. I do not believe there are mistakes in the bible, maybe in some translations of it or when verses are taken out of context. JMHO But yes, I can sense what you are saying about the separate God energetics. Blessings & love, Linda , " ordinarysparrow " <ordinarysparrow wrote: > > dear Linda > > there are many similarities, my teacher from India says the Shiva > energetic is more like the energetic of the God in the Old testament, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 4, 2009 Report Share Posted June 4, 2009 Hi Linda, >I have been getting news of a lot of these types death lately. Lots of people leaving the earth. I have been noticing that as well and wonder what is going on with that ~ there seem to be a lot of deaths and the people are not that old. Best, Angelina , " Linda " <crazycats711 wrote: > > @@@ My friends sister's husband just dropped dead out of the blue the other day, in his 40's.@@@ > > I have been getting news of a lot of these types death lately. Lots of people leaving the earth. > > Linda > > , Elektra Fire <elektra.fire@> wrote: > > > > I think you are correct in thinking that the kundalini brings much more life and depth to your dreams, and also lucidity. > > My dreams are so epic and real seeming , depending on the moon cycle and my own cycle they become more or less pronounced. > > > > Sorry to hear you've been so under the weather recently, everyone is going through a lot of bodily issues, I really think that its the new energy coming in affecting us all. > > My friends sister's husband just dropped dead out of the blue the other day, in his 40's. > > God rest his soul, shocking how often these things are happening. > > > > Crazee days but exciting times. > > > > Wishing you the very best of everything dear Linda, > > blessings > > elektra x x x > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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