Guest guest Posted June 11, 2009 Report Share Posted June 11, 2009 I find this sound fascinating. I posted a little while back mentioning I could hear it. Now I've latched onto it I can hear it if I close my eyes and just listen. There's often a main sound, and then a smaller sound with a different pitch in the background. I tried doing what you mentioned chrism and harmonising with it heh, but the success of that was somewhat diminished by my inability to sing in tune... Thankfully I was home alone. Its reassuring to hear that it is almost a precursor for an OBE, as Ive never managed to actually 'leave my body' despite a few years of attempts, but I have got as far as hearing that sound and feeling very light. Unofrtunately at that point it goes away and thats usually the end of my attempt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 11, 2009 Report Share Posted June 11, 2009 Always, in times of intense emotion I have taken myself off somewhere to be alone, quiet and think. I usually go somewhere outside where it is green and untouched by human hand, eg. not a household garden or park. At these times I can hear the sound which is rhythmic and constant. I always imagined it as the earths 'heart beat'. If I can, I go bare foot and I can feel the earth vibrating slowly. I described this feeling to a friend once as if I was standing over the London Underground and trains were running through. It was like their vibrations would feel. Very interesting topic Chrism, which takes me back to many childhood memories and emotions. Blessings, Skydancer x , " andyrpreston " <andyrpreston wrote: > > I find this sound fascinating. I posted a little while back mentioning I could hear it. Now I've latched onto it I can hear it if I close my eyes and just listen. > There's often a main sound, and then a smaller sound with a different pitch in the background. I tried doing what you mentioned chrism and harmonising with it heh, but the success of that was somewhat diminished by my inability to sing in tune... Thankfully I was home alone. > > Its reassuring to hear that it is almost a precursor for an OBE, as Ive never managed to actually 'leave my body' despite a few years of attempts, but I have got as far as hearing that sound and feeling very light. Unofrtunately at that point it goes away and thats usually the end of my attempt. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 11, 2009 Report Share Posted June 11, 2009 Chrism There is another interesting interpretation. If all is light compressed to some density (and it is), then to decrease density (to go OBE), a certain amount of light energy has to be radiated. We see this in comets approaching the earth. The heat up and give off clouds of ice / vapor. The generate sound is a form of light energy too - scientifically called phonons. If we generally had a proper understanding of gravity, we would call this OBE process a gravitational adjustment of light density. There must be a corresponding consumption of ambient light energy to slide the ephemeral body into the dense one.I have no idea of phenomena associated with that, but someone may have had a related experience. Love. Thanks Dell ---Chrism wrote .... This force of sound I feel is the change in the position not of the source of the sound but of the person sensing it. As we exit the body and inhabit for a time both physical and the external or astral body we are quickly thrust into areas of densities that are similar and far different than what we know to be as high or low or thick or thin at the same time, and even though we carry familiar concepts with us and sculpt our experiences with in them it doesn't change the dynamics of the densities that are there merely our interaction or perceptions within them. Nothing is wrong and no damage is being done. It is the equivalent of the sound of a lock being turned by a key or the hinges of a door being heard to move. My opinion of it anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 11, 2009 Report Share Posted June 11, 2009 This isn't really Kundalini related but I've been curious about this for the past week. In the OBE state, can one travel to the center of our galaxy and enter into the black hole and see whats on the other side, or any black hole? For some reason I've been really curious about this. craig , " chrism " <> wrote: > > Some OBE phenomena as the precursor condition towards the Kundalini. > > Some people who are drawn to interests such as the OBE already hear certain high pitched frequencies in their daily awake life. I know I do and have for many years. Sometimes the frequencies can be so loud and annoying as to come under the diagnosis of tinnitus. An uncontrolled and non localized quality of loud sounds coming into the hearing centers of the brain. Sometimes as loud as a passing locomotive or a jet aircraft taking off. This isn't about tinnitus though. > > It is about the very high in pitch sometimes changing sometimes unchanging extremely high sounds that can be heard if one stills the conscious self enough to listen. The frequencies are always there for me and I consciously send out my own frequencies to harmonize with them. > > Sometimes when I have OBEd in slow motion, like some here will do i.e. when I have lifted out of the body slowly and one section of the body at a time I have heard these frequencies become extremely loud and increased in volume. I hear multiple frequencies and they almost become as a scream of sound at different pitches all at once as I continue to lift out or roll out. Typically when from a sleep paralyzed position going into the OBE following the vibrations. This would occur for me back in 1987. > > This force of sound I feel is the change in the position not of the source of the sound but of the person sensing it. As we exit the body and inhabit for a time both physical and the external or astral body we are quickly thrust into areas of densities that are similar and far different than what we know to be as high or low or thick or thin at the same time, and even though we carry familiar concepts with us and sculpt our experiences with in them it doesn't change the dynamics of the densities that are there merely our interaction or perceptions within them. Nothing is wrong and no damage is being done. It is the equivalent of the sound of a lock being turned by a key or the hinges of a door being heard to move. My opinion of it anyway. > > The first time I heard this it scared me badly as I was rolling out of my body towards the left I could literally hear what felt like the fabric of sound tearing and screaming out its pain at my incursion. In my fear I snapped back into the body with no apparent damage done. I learned from this and other similar experiences that when we leave the body sometimes our physical senses will pick up and process phenomena that is and isn't of the physical at the same time. As the consciousness is in the body and outside of it at the same time a blending of stimulus can be experienced. Like when one sits up in the body while the rest of the body is still reclined. > > Much depends on where the consciousness is predisposed to experience and everyone is unique in that area. This could be a slow motion version of the " Whoosh " or the " thunderclap " or the " pops " and many of the other " sudden " sounds one experiences at the point of separation. When the consciousness leaves quickly these sounds and the dynamics of them can pass so fast as to barely be noticed as the person can exit the physical and causal bodies so fast as to exclude them. Or their own guidance is helping to dampen these phenomena. > > These are merely my experiences and conclusions and no attempt to explain anybody else's experiences with it is being given. Just some thoughts on some slow OBE separations I have had and the phenomena associated with them. - > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 11, 2009 Report Share Posted June 11, 2009 Hi Craig, >This isn't really Kundalini related but I've been curious about this for the past week. In the OBE state, can one travel to the center of our galaxy and enter into the black hole and see whats on the other side, or any black hole? For some reason I've been really curious about this.< Sounds interesting! Why don't you try it and let us know what you find out. Best, Angelina , " kundaflame " <kundaflame wrote: > > This isn't really Kundalini related but I've been curious about this for the past week. In the OBE state, can one travel to the center of our galaxy and enter into the black hole and see whats on the other side, or any black hole? For some reason I've been really curious about this. > > craig > > > > , " chrism " <@> wrote: > > > > Some OBE phenomena as the precursor condition towards the Kundalini. > > > > Some people who are drawn to interests such as the OBE already hear certain high pitched frequencies in their daily awake life. I know I do and have for many years. Sometimes the frequencies can be so loud and annoying as to come under the diagnosis of tinnitus. An uncontrolled and non localized quality of loud sounds coming into the hearing centers of the brain. Sometimes as loud as a passing locomotive or a jet aircraft taking off. This isn't about tinnitus though. > > > > It is about the very high in pitch sometimes changing sometimes unchanging extremely high sounds that can be heard if one stills the conscious self enough to listen. The frequencies are always there for me and I consciously send out my own frequencies to harmonize with them. > > > > Sometimes when I have OBEd in slow motion, like some here will do i.e. when I have lifted out of the body slowly and one section of the body at a time I have heard these frequencies become extremely loud and increased in volume. I hear multiple frequencies and they almost become as a scream of sound at different pitches all at once as I continue to lift out or roll out. Typically when from a sleep paralyzed position going into the OBE following the vibrations. This would occur for me back in 1987. > > > > This force of sound I feel is the change in the position not of the source of the sound but of the person sensing it. As we exit the body and inhabit for a time both physical and the external or astral body we are quickly thrust into areas of densities that are similar and far different than what we know to be as high or low or thick or thin at the same time, and even though we carry familiar concepts with us and sculpt our experiences with in them it doesn't change the dynamics of the densities that are there merely our interaction or perceptions within them. Nothing is wrong and no damage is being done. It is the equivalent of the sound of a lock being turned by a key or the hinges of a door being heard to move. My opinion of it anyway. > > > > The first time I heard this it scared me badly as I was rolling out of my body towards the left I could literally hear what felt like the fabric of sound tearing and screaming out its pain at my incursion. In my fear I snapped back into the body with no apparent damage done. I learned from this and other similar experiences that when we leave the body sometimes our physical senses will pick up and process phenomena that is and isn't of the physical at the same time. As the consciousness is in the body and outside of it at the same time a blending of stimulus can be experienced. Like when one sits up in the body while the rest of the body is still reclined. > > > > Much depends on where the consciousness is predisposed to experience and everyone is unique in that area. This could be a slow motion version of the " Whoosh " or the " thunderclap " or the " pops " and many of the other " sudden " sounds one experiences at the point of separation. When the consciousness leaves quickly these sounds and the dynamics of them can pass so fast as to barely be noticed as the person can exit the physical and causal bodies so fast as to exclude them. Or their own guidance is helping to dampen these phenomena. > > > > These are merely my experiences and conclusions and no attempt to explain anybody else's experiences with it is being given. Just some thoughts on some slow OBE separations I have had and the phenomena associated with them. - > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 11, 2009 Report Share Posted June 11, 2009 I would, but never had a conscious OBE. But I'll tell you, if I ever do, that's the first place I have to check out craig , " gypsyeyes_101 " <gypsyeyes_101 wrote: > > Hi Craig, > > >This isn't really Kundalini related but I've been curious about this for the > past week. In the OBE state, can one travel to the center of our galaxy and > enter into the black hole and see whats on the other side, or any black hole? > For some reason I've been really curious about this.< > > Sounds interesting! Why don't you try it and let us know > what you find out. > > Best, Angelina > > , " kundaflame " <kundaflame@> wrote: > > > > This isn't really Kundalini related but I've been curious about this for the past week. In the OBE state, can one travel to the center of our galaxy and enter into the black hole and see whats on the other side, or any black hole? For some reason I've been really curious about this. > > > > craig > > > > > > > > , " chrism " <@> wrote: > > > > > > Some OBE phenomena as the precursor condition towards the Kundalini. > > > > > > Some people who are drawn to interests such as the OBE already hear certain high pitched frequencies in their daily awake life. I know I do and have for many years. Sometimes the frequencies can be so loud and annoying as to come under the diagnosis of tinnitus. An uncontrolled and non localized quality of loud sounds coming into the hearing centers of the brain. Sometimes as loud as a passing locomotive or a jet aircraft taking off. This isn't about tinnitus though. > > > > > > It is about the very high in pitch sometimes changing sometimes unchanging extremely high sounds that can be heard if one stills the conscious self enough to listen. The frequencies are always there for me and I consciously send out my own frequencies to harmonize with them. > > > > > > Sometimes when I have OBEd in slow motion, like some here will do i.e. when I have lifted out of the body slowly and one section of the body at a time I have heard these frequencies become extremely loud and increased in volume. I hear multiple frequencies and they almost become as a scream of sound at different pitches all at once as I continue to lift out or roll out. Typically when from a sleep paralyzed position going into the OBE following the vibrations. This would occur for me back in 1987. > > > > > > This force of sound I feel is the change in the position not of the source of the sound but of the person sensing it. As we exit the body and inhabit for a time both physical and the external or astral body we are quickly thrust into areas of densities that are similar and far different than what we know to be as high or low or thick or thin at the same time, and even though we carry familiar concepts with us and sculpt our experiences with in them it doesn't change the dynamics of the densities that are there merely our interaction or perceptions within them. Nothing is wrong and no damage is being done. It is the equivalent of the sound of a lock being turned by a key or the hinges of a door being heard to move. My opinion of it anyway. > > > > > > The first time I heard this it scared me badly as I was rolling out of my body towards the left I could literally hear what felt like the fabric of sound tearing and screaming out its pain at my incursion. In my fear I snapped back into the body with no apparent damage done. I learned from this and other similar experiences that when we leave the body sometimes our physical senses will pick up and process phenomena that is and isn't of the physical at the same time. As the consciousness is in the body and outside of it at the same time a blending of stimulus can be experienced. Like when one sits up in the body while the rest of the body is still reclined. > > > > > > Much depends on where the consciousness is predisposed to experience and everyone is unique in that area. This could be a slow motion version of the " Whoosh " or the " thunderclap " or the " pops " and many of the other " sudden " sounds one experiences at the point of separation. When the consciousness leaves quickly these sounds and the dynamics of them can pass so fast as to barely be noticed as the person can exit the physical and causal bodies so fast as to exclude them. Or their own guidance is helping to dampen these phenomena. > > > > > > These are merely my experiences and conclusions and no attempt to explain anybody else's experiences with it is being given. Just some thoughts on some slow OBE separations I have had and the phenomena associated with them. - > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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