Guest guest Posted June 14, 2009 Report Share Posted June 14, 2009 I second or third or fourth (lost count) (: thanking you both for posting about this! I think about self-realization or enlightenment alot and wonder so many things. I wonder if everyone has their kundalini awakened to attain this or if you can be self-realized without the kundalini ...I wonder if perhaps some have become self-realized just activating lets say the male aspect? I don't know if thats possible. I enjoy watching Sri Ramana Mahar...(ok I'm gonna spell it wrong) and I know he became self-realized at a very early age. He faced like a death - facing himself and he realized or became self-realized so quickly. (just for the record Shakti if you're listening no need to put me on turbo charge) So I wonder about his kundalini. I remember Chrism once posting that there are many ways up the mountain - so I wonder if that means that some do not attain self-realization through the kundalini? I've been asking myself " who am I? " alot - I've had many dreams lately where I become each character in my dream and look out from their eyes and become an object, like a chair. But of course this is only in my dreams. Although I am happy about it because at least my subconsious knows I would love to have this experience - I feel a love for everyone/thing but have not experienced the real " oneness " of experience...if that makes sense. Sometimes deep in mediation I can become like the sky and feel like I'm floating but I know I'm not at that place of oneness or self-realization. But of course this is my highest hope. I also have seen so many videos where they speak of self-realization and say that you can have no desires...so I suppose according to this? I will never become self-realized as long as I am WANTING it? I have come to the point of seeing the illusionary aspect of this reality. You know when the air is blinking in and out and the light that everything gives off is sometimes brighter than the object and well that tunnel on the wall makes the wall not look solid, and the cool breeze blowing right through the body makes the body not feel solid...so the illusion is strong to me. Sometimes this has given me such feelings of aloneness thinking everything IS such an illusion. I remember reading a past post where someone a long time ago was writing about this. They (and thank you whoever you are!) were saying that until you go farther past this illusion that it can feel very lonely but when you become the " one " and go beyond as a friend likes to say....well that is when you can experience this - this oneness - this self-realization. So if any of you have " oneness stories " or self-realization experiences and such I would be so very happy to hear about it! My ego still doesnt get it ... yeah that means me...ha So heres to all reaching self-realization in this lifetime...woops - think my desire is shining out (: Deb , " Igor Alphus " <Alphu-s wrote: > > These are great posts yes there is no-where to hide. You are monitored 24/7. > Shakti can sure let you know. > Richard > Sent from my BlackBerry device on the Rogers Wireless Network > > > selena255 <selena > > Sat, 13 Jun 2009 11:08:05 > > Re: Rapid Format Awakening: Nowhere > to Hide > > > Hi Sparrow, > > What you say is right on! Poor teachers take a lot of bashing from their own students during the process, LOL! Patience and forgiveness of a supernatural kind is what makes the difference between a bogus guru and the real deal. > > Yes, the RFA is excruciating. The ego is challenged in all sorts of ways, in all the places where it hurts the most. The pitfalls are tailored on each individual in such a way that no stone is left unturned, and you have to confront all of your own demons one by one, all the time. > > The most painful part is that your own conscience keeps assessing your performance 24/7 and is aware of all your failures. The ultimate challenge is that of being able to forgive oneself in the face of such glaring flaws, even as you lose the ability to fool yourself into self-complacency. Long periods of self-loathing and moral torture are to be expected--what they call the dark night of the soul, perhaps. > > Once the process begins, there is no hiding. > > Sel > > Kundalini-Awakening <%40> -Systems-1 , " ordinarysparrow " <ordinarysparrow@> wrote: > > > > Namaste > > > > dear Chrism > > > > This is so on target for me personally. . . will not go into it at > > length. . .but with one of the teachers from India this is such an apt > > description of what it can look like. . . > > > > i do not have words to describe the force and the drive of what this > > beloved teacher put me through for about seven years. . .it blew every > > conceivable frame or imagination of what a teacher was " suppose to be > > like " . . .the times i called him a brutal b_______ are not countable. . > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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