Guest guest Posted June 15, 2009 Report Share Posted June 15, 2009 As above so below. As inside so it is outside. Honor that which is " already there " as well as that which is already " out there. " Divinity doesnt always need to come " outside in. " Kundalini is proof that divinity is within us already " right now " this moment. And in that position can the understanding be given that having divinity " descend " or " come down " or " flow down " into an individual is not the only expression of divine interaction. And perhaps not even a divine expression but merely an energetic expression of attachment from an astral group of entities. Metaphors aside this can become a real experience and for the Kundalini seeker it is advised to first recognize " that which is within " first and from that recognition will " that which is without " be experienced. If the recognition is without interference the divine circuit can be completed. - blessings all - chrism Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 15, 2009 Report Share Posted June 15, 2009 Wow! that is why the Kundalini rises up from the bottom to the crown! Now I get it!! blessings to you too.. Chrism.. Metaphors aside this can become a real experience and for the Kundalini seeker it is advised to first recognize " that which is within " first and from that recognition will " that which is without " be experienced. If the recognition is without interference the divine circuit can be completed. - blessings all - chrism ________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 15, 2009 Report Share Posted June 15, 2009 by " bottom " , you are referring to the base of the spine, right? Julie --- On Mon, 6/15/09, Edok Ananda <edok.ananda wrote: Edok Ananda <edok.ananda Re: Always Looking Outside Monday, June 15, 2009, 5:23 PM Wow! that is why the Kundalini rises up from the bottom to the crown! Now I get it!! blessings to you too.. Chrism.. Metaphors aside this can become a real experience and for the Kundalini seeker it is advised to first recognize " that which is within " first and from that recognition will " that which is without " be experienced. If the recognition is without interference the divine circuit can be completed. - blessings all - chrism ____________ _________ _________ __ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 15, 2009 Report Share Posted June 15, 2009 Yes, julie ...that is what i meant. i need to recognize Shakti within me before i can experience Shiva the divinity without. edgar ________________________________ Julie <jewelport Monday, June 15, 2009 6:12:00 PM Re: Always Looking Outside by " bottom " , you are referring to the base of the spine, right? Julie - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 15, 2009 Report Share Posted June 15, 2009 Would Shiva be outside of you? I was thinking of Shiva as the male positive counter part of the feminine negative Shakti part. I thought the divinity outside would represent all that is in creation that seems separate apart from you. Linda , Edok Ananda <edok.ananda wrote: > > Yes, julie ...that is what i meant. i need to recognize Shakti within me before i can experience Shiva the divinity without. > > edgar > > > > > > ________________________________ > Julie <jewelport > > Monday, June 15, 2009 6:12:00 PM > Re: Always Looking Outside > > > > > > by " bottom " , you are referring to the base of the spine, right? > > Julie > > - > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 15, 2009 Report Share Posted June 15, 2009 Hi Linda, i might be wrong but that's my understanding of it...shiva from the cosmic consciousness will unite with shakti to complete the divine circuit then enlightenment will follow..but i will defer to chrism to elaborate on this further.. namaste, edgar ________________________________ Linda <crazycats711 Monday, June 15, 2009 8:04:00 PM Re: Always Looking Outside Would Shiva be outside of you? I was thinking of Shiva as the male positive counter part of the feminine negative Shakti part. I thought the divinity outside would represent all that is in creation that seems separate apart from you. Linda Kundalini-Awakening -Systems- 1 , Edok Ananda <edok.ananda@ ...> wrote: > > Yes, julie ...that is what i meant. i need to recognize Shakti within me before i can experience Shiva the divinity without. > > edgar > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > Julie <jewelport@. ..> > Kundalini-Awakening -Systems- 1 > Monday, June 15, 2009 6:12:00 PM > Re: [Kundalini-Awakenin g-Systems- 1] Always Looking Outside > > > > > > by " bottom " , you are referring to the base of the spine, right? > > Julie > > - > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 15, 2009 Report Share Posted June 15, 2009 > If the recognition is without interference the divine circuit can be completed. - blessings all - chrism Amen! , " chrism " <> wrote: > > As above so below. As inside so it is outside. Honor that which is " already there " as well as that which is already " out there. " Divinity doesnt always need to come " outside in. " Kundalini is proof that divinity is within us already " right now " this moment. > > And in that position can the understanding be given that having divinity " descend " or " come down " or " flow down " into an individual is not the only expression of divine interaction. And perhaps not even a divine expression but merely an energetic expression of attachment from an astral group of entities. > > Metaphors aside this can become a real experience and for the Kundalini seeker it is advised to first recognize " that which is within " first and from that recognition will " that which is without " be experienced. If the recognition is without interference the divine circuit can be completed. - blessings all - chrism > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 15, 2009 Report Share Posted June 15, 2009 If i may put this in christian terminology..shakti is the bride and shiva/christ the bridegroom..the bride is our soul/spirit within waiting for the union with the christ also called the spiritual marriage. if the recognition of the spirit within is without interference/blockade then the union will be complete. namaste, edgar ________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 15, 2009 Report Share Posted June 15, 2009 This is exactly how my thinking goes. I believe any and all divinity/enlightenment is already inside of us. We are already God, Buddha, etc etc, and we need just realization to reach that level. Realizations comes through meditation/yoga/kundalini awakening/etc etc etc. This is why I have trouble with praying since for me, and Im sorry I am not trying to be ignorant or disrespectful, praying is like stealing a watch from your own pocket and selling it to myself. Hmmm... maybe im not using that correctly, lol, but you know what I mean. Much love to you all! Mike On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 1:19 PM, chrism <> wrote: > > > As above so below. As inside so it is outside. Honor that which is " already > there " as well as that which is already " out there. " Divinity doesnt always > need to come " outside in. " Kundalini is proof that divinity is within us > already " right now " this moment. > > And in that position can the understanding be given that having divinity > " descend " or " come down " or " flow down " into an individual is not the only > expression of divine interaction. And perhaps not even a divine expression > but merely an energetic expression of attachment from an astral group of > entities. > > Metaphors aside this can become a real experience and for the Kundalini > seeker it is advised to first recognize " that which is within " first and > from that recognition will " that which is without " be experienced. If the > recognition is without interference the divine circuit can be completed. - > blessings all - chrism > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 15, 2009 Report Share Posted June 15, 2009 Hi Mike, Good to read you, as always. To me, following your analogy, I am the watch, I am the pocket, I am the thief, I am the buyer, I am the dollar, I am the security camera watching the entire transaction, and I am the transaction. Prayer/meditation/yoga/running puts me back into that perspective so that the dramas of daily life no longer cling. After all, I am the drama, too : ) Peace, Shaz > This is why I have trouble with praying since for me... praying is like stealing a watch from your own pocket and > selling it to myself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 15, 2009 Report Share Posted June 15, 2009 blessings, dear edgar.......i am a woman of few words.......... namaste.......... Julie --- On Mon, 6/15/09, Edok Ananda <edok.ananda wrote: Edok Ananda <edok.ananda Re: Always Looking Outside Monday, June 15, 2009, 9:55 PM Yes, julie ...that is what i meant. i need to recognize Shakti within me before i can experience Shiva the divinity without. edgar ____________ _________ _________ __ Julie <jewelport > Kundalini-Awakening -Systems- 1 Monday, June 15, 2009 6:12:00 PM Re: [Kundalini-Awakenin g-Systems- 1] Always Looking Outside by " bottom " , you are referring to the base of the spine, right? Julie - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 15, 2009 Report Share Posted June 15, 2009 May we all complete this union in this lifetime...beautiful, Thank you Edgar!!! Deb , Edok Ananda <edok.ananda wrote: > > If i may put this in christian terminology..shakti is the bride and shiva/christ the bridegroom..the bride is our soul/spirit within Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 15, 2009 Report Share Posted June 15, 2009 For me to pray it is to communicate/talk with the God, the big " I " that is within. Do you ever talk to yourself, the little " i " . I do that too. I also talk to the Holy Spirit and the Christ that is within me. Linda , JiNN <jinnproduction wrote: > > This is exactly how my thinking goes. > I believe any and all divinity/enlightenment is already inside of us. We are > already > God, Buddha, etc etc, and we need just realization to reach that level. > Realizations comes through meditation/yoga/kundalini awakening/etc etc etc. > > This is why I have trouble with praying since for me, and Im sorry I am not > trying to be ignorant > or disrespectful, praying is like stealing a watch from your own pocket and > selling it > to myself. Hmmm... maybe im not using that correctly, lol, but you know > what I mean. > > Much love to you all! > Mike > > > On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 1:19 PM, chrism <> wrote: > > > > > > > As above so below. As inside so it is outside. Honor that which is " already > > there " as well as that which is already " out there. " Divinity doesnt always > > need to come " outside in. " Kundalini is proof that divinity is within us > > already " right now " this moment. > > > > And in that position can the understanding be given that having divinity > > " descend " or " come down " or " flow down " into an individual is not the only > > expression of divine interaction. And perhaps not even a divine expression > > but merely an energetic expression of attachment from an astral group of > > entities. > > > > Metaphors aside this can become a real experience and for the Kundalini > > seeker it is advised to first recognize " that which is within " first and > > from that recognition will " that which is without " be experienced. If the > > recognition is without interference the divine circuit can be completed. - > > blessings all - chrism > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 16, 2009 Report Share Posted June 16, 2009 I am so sorry, I forgot to trim the post. I will tried extra hard to remember to do that. Linda Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 16, 2009 Report Share Posted June 16, 2009 Hi Mike, just a thought as i read this? did you read Craig (kundaflame's) post a few weeks back on different perspectives on God? The frame which is use is that there is 1st person God , ie we are God in our esence) and there is also 2nd person relationship to a divine higher intelligence which desires our highest good. I didnt used to pray much, and used to be very much 'I am' in relation to God, now I also like the relational aspect. which takes the form of a prayer.. I just find that this adds more dimensions to god love Bruce --- > > This is why I have trouble with praying since for me, and Im sorry I am not > trying to be ignorant > or disrespectful, praying is like stealing a watch from your own pocket and > selling it > to myself. Hmmm... maybe im not using that correctly, lol, but you know > what I mean. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 16, 2009 Report Share Posted June 16, 2009 Perfect way to look at it Edgar. It's the Sacred Marriage between God and Goddess in Wicca. Blessings, Skydancer x , Edok Ananda <edok.ananda wrote: > > If i may put this in christian terminology..shakti is the bride and shiva/christ the bridegroom..the bride is our soul/spirit within waiting for the union with the christ also called the spiritual marriage. if the recognition of the spirit within is without interference/blockade then the union will be complete. > > namaste, > edgar > > > > > ________________________________ > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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