Guest guest Posted June 17, 2009 Report Share Posted June 17, 2009 No problem Keith, Twin hearts is no longer part of my daily core. As far as ACIM , I am doing one exercise per day ,and not very involved with it , I started because was recommended by Eckhart Tolle. What was valuable for me about ACIM so far is that it helped me realized that external situations are consequence of my internal state , otherwise , I'm not fanatical about it blessings Miguel On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 5:48 PM, chrism <> wrote: > Are you still doing the twin hearts practice as well as the course in > miracles? If so please see how you feel in setting them aside. Both make > assumptions that can come into conflict if the Kundalini doesnt give the > experience the way " they say " an experience should be. Consider this and > please send your question and response to the group site if you are > comfortable doing so. I prefer to answer these questions there as they serve > a far broader purpose. - > > --- On *Wed, 6/17/09, Miguel Robles <roblesmiguel* wrote: > > > Miguel Robles <roblesmiguel > Re: Email from KAS-1 Contact-Us > " chrism " <> > Wednesday, June 17, 2009, 2:42 PM > > > Hello again Chrism, > I just finished my first practice of 5 tibetans and compression prayer. You > are right about my waiting to start the practice . The reason I usually wait > to start a new practice is that I usually pick a day carefully , because > what happened In the past when I started with spiritual practices was I did > a meditation a couple of weeks, then another a couple of weeks,then > another... so forth... there was no consistency of practice overall .So now > , when I start a practice that I will repeat daily , I first carefully > select such practice , then decide the moment of the day in which I will do > it , then I pick the day , etc and this way I incorporate into a daily core > , to insure continuity. but your response seemed to be a catalyst for it > anyways. In respect of the compensation , I probably did not express myself > well, I had some karmic dust and didn't know if what I have been doing so > far was enough to " clean the system " to prepare for Kundalini , in other > words , to gently remove such dust with a sweeper, instead of waiting for > Kundalini to pass a rough vacum to the dust , or worse, gather more dust . > The way I see it , the spiritual practice would give me the clarity that I > need to take the proper action (karma) .The fastest way would be doing the > " right " action inmediately , straight, but this is what I'been doing my whole > life ,proved not effective. so what I expect from spiritual practice, > including kundalini, is to bring me the clarity to " act properly " ( by > properly I don't mean comparing it to a set of external values , morals , > measurements,etc , rather , proper in this context for me means that the > action will not generate stress for me , and by action I mean also > a thought ,a " non-action " ,etc) .Don't want to get philosophical,but just > want to make clear that I don't expect kundalini to do " any work " (karma) > for me . > in respect to the ways in which I think I've been doing the safeties > (except 5 t & compression): > Tongue up = I generally do this in meditation , was adviced in practices > that I do (Chi kung , and twin hearts meditation from master Choa Kok Sui). > Eyes up = also been adviced and incorporate it in meditation sometime ago > Food choices= I'm leaning much more towards vegetarianism. Bought some > vegetarians books ,etc because I've never cooked anything in my life (always > heating food or boiling pasta , so the change now also means that I have to > learn how to cook , which is taking more time. ) I'm doing fasting many > days of the month (basically water with lemon, which is supposed to have > most of the nutrients that we need, I've been told) > Programing = probably more than a year that I don't watch tv. I used to go > the movie theater frequently ,now, rarely . > Forgiveness = been working . I examined past actions , and found ways to > fit them in overall scheme of my life , instead of lingering on hypothetical > things that I could have done differently. > Recapitulation = A lot of this . I don't react very often now. Sometimes , > in for instance, as you mention, a freeway , there some anger " organic " > ,automatic, that arises, but when arises, I generally observe it , and don't > allow my mind to keep building and building over the situation , I stop it > instead . Also doing work with Course in Miracles, that help with this , and > a hawaian huna meditation targeted specifically at this. > Gratitude = Ok . With ups and downs . To be honest when a few thing start > to go wrong gratitude evaporates , but overall , I'm consciously working on > increasing it , and been able to perceive that mother earth is constantly > giving , and if I don't have something is either that I don't really need > that something , or that I have to remove a block in myself to receive > (instead of blaming the external source for my perceived lack) > Inner joy = working on this in twin hearts meditation , a guided meditation > that starts by evoking joyful moments > Prayer = hindu, budhist mantras , and other prayers , a lot > movement = I either run or lately walk in the park , do exercises mostly > for base chakra > Single nostril breathing = doing something similar , nadhi shodana > (alternate breathing , or compression exercise without the prayer.) Not > daily , but frequently > warm regards and blessings, > Miguel > > On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 2:47 PM, chrism <<http://mc/compose?to= > > > wrote: > >> Hello Miguel, >> Please start the Tibetans now. They are a conditioning >> for the body that allows it to be ever more active and expressive during the >> Shaktipat. Please give me examples of how you are in practice of all the >> safeties minus the Tibetans and the compression prayer. Please send your >> response to this mail to the group as others can learn from our >> conversation. >> >> I see your need for compensation to be an aspect of self forgiveness that >> you may wish to give some attention to. Why are you compensating? For what? >> What is beyond your ability to forgive yourself for. Answer these questions >> and give yourself forgiveness and your path will quicken. >> >> Kundalini will not allow for compensation. It will give for the practice >> that is being done in regards to the Karma that has been developed. If you >> feel you have Karma that you can balance then I do suggest that this be done >> by you. When ever possible. >> >> I find you waiting for some reason to start the Tibetans. In this way I >> see you waiting to start your practice towards Kundalini. So please have a >> look at this and search your inner self for any reason you may have for not >> just doing it. >> >> Please be prepared to practice the safeties in every way they are >> suggested. Watch out for getting overly attracted to certain forms of >> spiritual practice that your ego feels is conducive to Kundalini or other >> exalted states. Watch out for the " desire " for Siddhis. >> >> Work hard and be pathient and know that by even being here you have placed >> yourself inside of a very rapid and expressive school of Kundalini. - >> blessings Miguel. - chrism >> >> >> >> >> --- On *Wed, 6/17/09, Miguel Robles <roblesmiguel<http://mc/compose?to=roblesmiguel > >> >* wrote: >> >> >> Miguel Robles <roblesmiguel<http://mc/compose?to=roblesmiguel > >> > >> Re: Email from KAS-1 Contact-Us >> " chrism " <<http://mc/compose?to= > >> > >> Wednesday, June 17, 2009, 11:04 AM >> >> >> Hi , >> Thank you very much for your response. So I guess I'll have to wait for >> the next equinox. but I wanted to check with you , I might be in condition >> to receive this time , I have been doing heavy spiritual work lately , and I >> have all the safeties covered except 5 tibetans and compression prayer. I >> studied the 5 tibetans, so I'd be able to start both the same day that you >> would eventually tell me that is possible to receive it this coming >> solstice. I had some turbulent situations in my past , represented in >> energy blockages, but I have been doing lots of spiritual work lately, so >> it might compensate. I wanted to ask you if it is possible for you , to >> check at a distance my energetic condition, I don't know if this kind of >> sidhis manifest for all the people with kundalini fully active, but in case >> is possible ... >> I really don't want to abuse your generosity, truly you ask very little >> for all you give, but I'm excited to take the next step , and I think I'm >> ready. >> And if not , I'll give you my most sincere thank you for offering us this >> possiblity , and I'll mark my calendar to start the tibetans on time for >> september >> Blessings, >> Miguel >> >> >> >> On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 2:29 PM, chrism <<http://mc/compose?to= > >> > wrote: >> >>> About a month Miguel. This gives you the opportunity to begin the >>> conditioning process and to become comfortable with the safeties as a daily >>> practice. - blessings to you Miguel and welcome to the ! - chrism >>> >>> --- On *Tue, 6/16/09, roblesmiguel<http://mc/compose?to=roblesmiguel > >>> <roblesmiguel <http://mc/compose?to=roblesmiguel >>*wrote: >>> >>> >>> roblesmiguel<http://mc/compose?to=roblesmiguel >< >>> roblesmiguel <http://mc/compose?to=roblesmiguel >> >>> Email from KAS-1 Contact-Us >>> <http://mc/compose?to= > >>> Tuesday, June 16, 2009, 6:27 AM >>> >>> *recipient* gleno<http://mc/compose?to=gleno (AT) kundalini-mail (DOT) com> >>> *Name* Miguel Angel Robles *Email* roblesmiguel<http://mc/compose?to=roblesmiguel > >>> *Subject* Question about the Safeties *Comments* Hi Chris, >>> I wanted to ask you how long in advance of the shaktipat should we start >>> practicing the safeties? . Or is it at the moment of shaktipat onwards? >>> warm regards, >>> Miguel *reply_to_field* Email *Sender IP* 207.38.232.85 >>> >>> >> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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