over come by anger

[Guest guest]

prays for you..love..ali

 

On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 11:13 AM, Elektra Fire <elektra.firewrote:

 

>

>

> Dear Family,

>

> Please pray for my peace of mind to return, I had something bother me

> recently, the business partner of my husband returned from holiday to start

> making slanderous remarks about my husband and basically attack him in every

> which way he could. I don't mind people attacking me but when its my baby I

> just see red like a bull, I actually felt quite violent , pictured myself

> punching the guy square on and if I'd seen him that day it may well have

> occured. So not like me, and the event just keeps on playing in my mind, I

> try to forgive and let go but the anger wells up and the insults begin to

> form in my mind against him almost automatically.

> I am really trying hard but it is difficult, I want to find my peace and

> love for this guy once more instead of wanting to punch his lights out !!!!

> Its like my ego is roaring like a lion.

>

> Thanks in advance

> love and angry vibes that need to be released

> elektra x x x

>

>

[Guest guest]

Beautiful Lekky Lion,

 

Isn't it the truth that its easier to forgive and let go when its something

someone has done to us personally than to someone we love...But we know your

heart and we know the beauty in you and I know that in no time you will be

sending loving thoughts and forgiving him...for he does not know what you

do...he is not in that place yet, who knows what life experiences he has had

that makes him dump all over your husband, probably feelings of jealousy. I so

much appreciate your honesty because we've all been there and will be there and

yes our beloved Lekky I am sending you so much love and I know all the others

are too, for you are so much the light that shines out here. Actually its a

little fun to see the lion in you that protects the one she loves! I will

happily in any way I can support you and yours and send that guy some too so he

softens and by the time we are all done here hopefully he'll turn around into

Mother Theresa! ha

This actually reminds me of a story. I had this College Algebra teacher that was

SOOOO cranky!!!! He would just insult everyone and embarrass everyone in every

moment he could. He clearly hated his job and couldn't stand any of us. Anyway I

started every night just appreciating him. I would think who knew what was going

on in his life that he would be so crabby...well thats how I started to make it

easier to get in that place...anyway then I would start thinking of things I

could appreciate him....the silly way he rubbed his belly when speaking, the way

he would just spit out anything that came to his mind like a child, and then I

would think how funny it was and start appreciating him for that. One time he

insulted the whole class how stupid everyone was and honestly I just lost it...I

was cracking up laughing (been doing my appreciating of him now for awhile)

loudly in class...and everyone started laughing and he started laughing...and we

all started joking around a lot...and I'd joke with him...when he called on me

I'd make sure I said first that I knew he thought we were all stupid but I'm

okay with that so prepare yourself for a stupid answer...and I said it lovingly

and really started to have fun. The weird thing was we all did. And by the end

of the semester this crabby guy who clearly couldnt stand any of us...was going

OUT of his way to try to help everyone...staying late...helping at breaks...and

best of all...laughing with us! It turned out to be one of the best times I ever

had in class!

 

So my friend, if you could just remind me of this story the next time I am upset

with someone because I'm sure it will come...I'd appreciate it! (: And remind me

of your story and I'll remember you and smile at this moment...because we know

your good wishes are endless!

 

Love you Lekky,

Deb

 

 

, Elektra Fire

<elektra.fire wrote:

>

> Dear Family,

>

> Please pray for my peace of mind to return, I had something bother

[Guest guest]

Thanks so much for the heart warming story, it really helped a lot.

Even though I know the truth of searching for the good in people its easily

forgotten when the ego goes in to overdrive and the lioness takes over!

Thanks for your wise and gentle words dear k sis Debs. Love you loads and I'm

feeling better already, I promise if I see the guy I won't attack him with my

stilletto!!!! LOL

love the new photo of you also x x x beautiful like your soul.

hugs

love lekky x x x

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Hi Deb and all,

 

Thank you for posting this reminder. I do this sometimes but in a flash of anger

or frustration can tend to forget! I am so thankful for your story too! I'm

going to remind myself of it whenever I can so it can help me get into that

place again when/if something comes up. Thank you Electra for posting this! We

are all going through the ups and downs, flare ups, and challenges. We're

getting there in good time and your post helped others bring forward their ideas

and it's helping us all! I love reading the posts and everyone is so awesome in

this group. I'm so grateful to have joined in finally.

 

Bliss,

Maggie

 

, " flowerpowers7777 "

<flowerpowers7777 wrote:

>

> Beautiful Lekky Lion,

>

> Isn't it the truth

> This actually reminds me of a story. I had this College Algebra teacher that

was SOOOO cranky!!!! He would just >

> Love you Lekky,

> Deb

[Guest guest]

Dear Elektra Three Stars,

 

I'm sorry you and your husband are having to go through this. It hurts

to have your trust betrayed and to be treated unkindly, and it is

outrageous to be treated unjustly.

 

I would encourage you to take your time, though, before you try to shoo

anger out the door. I think anger is important. It jumps up when our

boundaries have been crossed, and it gives us the surge of energy we

need to shoo the cattle out of the garden, right the fence and restring

the wire.

 

So, I hope you'll give yourself the opportunity to honor your friend

Anger and allow her to help you set things right.

 

I also think it is important also to honor our body, the level of

expression where the fight/flight/freeze comes from. We aren't simply

spirit, after all. We came to Earth and took on these bodies for a

reason. Our bodies hold a lot of wisdom. I think in listening to our

bodies and learning to honor our No, we learn to respect ourselves, one

another, our bodies, and the Earth. Without a No, how can we have a

Yes?

 

Just some thoughts, sorry for all the wind.

 

Peace, Shaz

 

 

> I am really trying hard but it is difficult, I want to find my peace

and love for this guy once more instead of wanting to punch his lights

out !!!! Its like my ego is roaring like a lion.

>

> Thanks in advance

> love and angry vibes that need to be released

> elektra x x x

[Guest guest]

I agee with you completely shaz, thanks for putting it so well

 

lucia

 

, " shaktiaz " <shaktiaz

wrote:

>

 

> So, I hope you'll give yourself the opportunity to honor your friend

> Anger and allow her to help you set things right.

>

> I also think it is important also to honor our body, the level of

> expression where the fight/flight/freeze comes from. We aren't simply

> spirit, after all. We came to Earth and took on these bodies for a

> reason. Our bodies hold a lot of wisdom. I think in listening to our

> bodies and learning to honor our No, we learn to respect ourselves, one

> another, our bodies, and the Earth. Without a No, how can we have a

> Yes?

[Guest guest]

Yes love this group! You are so awesome too and I am very grateful that you are

posting too!! I wish I could have had that teacher and class filmed and put on

youtube....it really was quite funny...

Thank you Maggie! So happy you'll be sending all that good energy of yours!

Deb

 

, " Maggie Anderson "

<a216024 wrote:

>

> Hi Deb and all,

>

[Guest guest]

Namaste

 

dear Electra. . .

 

hoping that all is cleared for you and your husband this day. . .let me

state upfront i really do not know and you have a beautiful ongoing way

of delving into and surfacing the truth that will bring you into sacred

resonance. . .but will share some thoughts that come and an experience

that i remembered. . .

 

i would ask myself what are the buttons that are being pushed here?. .

..what in the past has reinforced the strength of the feelings ? How

does your anima and animus feel about this situation and each other? i

know from my own experience that it is never comfortable to be in places

of intense anger, but also find those times to be really rich in

uprooting shadow aspects. . .

 

when i read of the situation thought of a dynamic between my ex-husband

a number of years ago and will share it. . .

 

before John and i married we had lots of interaction with his mom. .

..overall i had a very loving easy going connection with her. Whereas

John had a conflicted relationship with both of them expressing a low

grade bickering towards each other.. . .

 

we married and began to look for a house to buy. . .after about a year

into the marriage i found that his mom was making me bonkers. . .i

experienced her as very interfering, and intrustive in our lives and the

plans John and i where making for the future. .being a therapist it

really bothered me for i felt so much anger towards her. . .i could not

understand why i was letting the issues turn into such annoance and

anger. . .

 

i took the issue to my family therapy supervisor. . . she asked me how

John was concerning his mom these days, and i told her, John and his mom

are being really great with one another and told her how much their

relationship had improved since we had married. . . she made the

suggestion: " tonight when you get home stay in the same room as John

and make a phone call to his mom. . .tell his mom that you appreciate

her, and see her interest as evidence of her love, and end the

converstation with a just wanted to tell you i love you. "

 

so sure enough i made the call, and less than three minutes after i got

off the phone John called his Mom and started yelling at her about her

interference into our lives and once again their relationship was back

to the normal mother/son they had formed. . .

 

in the bond of marriage and intimacy i had taken in the anger that he

did not want to hold, and had started expressing it for him. . .as soon

as i cleared the relationship then once again John had to take

responsibility of his own unwanted feelings. . .in working with couples

this became something that i often found that women have a tendency to

express feelings that a man at times would rather avoid. . .

 

dear elekra thought to share this for your consideration. . .to see if

there is a possibility you might be trying to contain both your own and

your husbands strong feelings of anger in this situation. . .and the

intensity might be like walking around with a double barrel?

 

 

my heart and prayers are with you and your husband in this situation and

may the highest good soon reveal. . .and sending you a big hug. . .and

so trust your heart and the integrity of your goodness in this

stituation and all the ones to follow. .. you have much goodness. . . .

 

just a note to the rest of the group. . .i have been only checking in

and reading the forum once every few days.. . .the sitepat and

scatterfield energy is quite strong and since i am engaged in an active

process energetic process with my teachers thought it would be wise to

pull back until after the shaktipat. . .love, honor and prayer for each

of you. . .will return soon. . .

 

 

 

love and light

ordinary sparrow

 

 

 

, Elektra Fire

<elektra.fire wrote:

 

> I am really trying hard but it is difficult, I want to find my peace

and love for this guy once more instead of wanting to punch his lights

out !!!! Its like my ego is roaring like a lion.

>

> Thanks in advance

> love and angry vibes that need to be released

> elektra x x x

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

YES! Your " ego is roaring like a lion " !!! lol!

Remember the singing technique we used? Only one

thing at a time can occupy the mind. We choose

what that will be, or we let the ego choose.

 

Loving you,

dhyana

 

, Elektra Fire

<elektra.fire wrote:

>

> Dear Family,

>

> Please pray for my peace of mind to return, I had something bother me

recently, the business partner of my husband returned from holiday to start

making slanderous remarks about my husband and basically attack him in every

which way he could. I don't mind people attacking me but when its my baby I just

see red like a bull, I actually felt quite violent , pictured myself punching

the guy square on and if I'd seen him that day it may well have occured. So not

like me, and the event just keeps on playing in my mind, I try to forgive and

let go but the anger wells up and the insults begin to form in my mind against

him almost automatically.

> I am really trying hard but it is difficult, I want to find my peace and love

for this guy once more instead of wanting to punch his lights out !!!! Its like

my ego is roaring like a lion.

>

> Thanks in advance

> love and angry vibes that need to be released

> elektra x x x

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

That's so beautiful, Deb! Thank you! One person sure

can make a difference! You chose a different way, and

there is no limits to creativity! I love it! We are

no slaves to the ego. Time to take up the victory

cry and leave it in the dust! lol!

 

Love.

 

 

, " flowerpowers7777 "

<flowerpowers7777 wrote:

>

The weird thing was we all did. And by the end of the semester this crabby guy

who clearly couldnt stand any of us...was going OUT of his way to try to help

everyone...staying late...helping at breaks...and best of all...laughing with

us! It turned out to be one of the best times I ever had in class!

[Guest guest]

Something magical happened, after talking about my anger with the group, it just

evaporated, I begged God to help me release it and He/She and all of you

certainly helped a lot, all this love and compassion just flooded in, now I just

pray for Eric to be able to release his pain and anger, its such a horrid

emotion to get stuck in .....icky on the inside and mentally deranging.

I had written him a mean email the other day to put him right on a few points,

but it was unneccessarily mean as I spoke from anger not love, then I just HAD

to write and beg his forgiveness, I humbly offered my heart felt apologies to

him. It made me feel so good and I think the whole process occured so I could

show Eric how to release his anger and resentment, my seed has been sown to help

him. I understand why I was a part of it all now. I had to show him how to

release overwhelming anger.

 

Thank you all so much

You blessed me in such a profound way

elektra x x x

[Guest guest]

Shaz the fire starter,

 

You are quite right, all emotions are justified as they are natural and a part

of our being, it was more the fact that I was not incontrol of myself anymore,

the anger had taken over my faculties and I was not feeling good.

I do not wish to lower my standards to another, I want to be the example of

righteousness to show the way to those who are lost.

I was having very childish and uncivilised thoughts about someone who is a

brother at the end of the day as we are all one family.

 

But I cherish your thoughts and opinion dearly and thank you for your support.

Much love, a very much more serene elektra x x x

[Guest guest]

Wow Lekky! So happy and may I say Goddess Lekky...that was quick! You may need

to grab a stone or some sort when it comes over me...hows your throwing arm

Lekky? (:

So happy for you! I knew the sunshine inside couldnt be blocked up too long...

And so happy about Sunday too - Be sending you lots more sunshine girl!

Love to you and yours!

Deb

 

, Elektra Fire

<elektra.fire wrote:

>

[Guest guest]

Hi everyone,

 

its being interesting reading these posts and thank you for all your voices. I

have a different take on this (gonno play devils advocate here), so just gonno

throw out my perspective.

 

I sometimes wonder if it is an egoic notion that non-anger is idealized and we

should only act from love. Are we caught up in ideas of self that anger is not

ok? Is the ego hijacking the 'love-ideal'? For me, anger arises when something I

value is threatened, and it shows me what I value.

 

Since my K. process, I feel anger much more powerfully and more raw than ever

before. Before expressing, I go through a process of trying to understand the

root of my anger. Is it my own neurosis playing out? Or is it my Higher Self

acting to defend a higher way? Didnt Jesus get angry in the temple?

 

And so, sometimes I act from it, and it can be a powerful force. The first step

is to stay present to anger, and not push it away and not get overwhelmed from

it (lost in it). From being present to anger, and being able to 'hold it', I can

then act, if I choose.

 

Being present to it is the Higher Self witnessing it, and that which is aware of

anger, is free of anger. My experience has been to rest in anger, and then it

self liberates, like all other emotions...

 

love

Bruce

[Guest guest]

Hi Bruce,

 

I've really learned so much from your last posts including this one that I

wanted to say thank you! Especially the self-love thing(otherpost?) and its all

just hitting home for me. Really appreciate that you wrote all that - and am

seeing myself in much of what you've said. I'm short in time right now - but

know that its been something I needed, so thank you.

Thank you!!!

Deb

 

, " bruce_oom "

<bruce_oom wrote:

>

> Hi everyone,

>

> its being interesting reading these posts and thank you for all

[Guest guest]

I guess the waves of anger are rippling through the group. My turn. My

previous landlord hadn't returned my security deposit or sent a letter as per

the tenant agreement so yesterday I sent him a friendly email reminder, even

though I was angry that I had to take the action. Interesting, I was having all

sorts of body fluttering/sensations as I wrote the short and concise email.

Then I received an email back today saying that the letter re: the security

deposit is in the mail, sent today no doubt. so many feelings are coming up

about this, anger (that he has treated me so badly), fear (of his anger), shame

(I was a bad tenant so I'm not getting my security deposit back) etc. I've been

sending him forgiveness, myself forgiveness, seeing if there is some legitimate

recourse I might take if I receive no money although the money isn't going to

make or break me because it isn't a huge sum. Sitting with it all. When I was

meditating yesterday, I got the clear sense that his anger is his projection

onto me of his own stuff/karma/etc. and I didn't have to take it on. I was also

aware of how many <angry> people's projections I had taken on, including my

fathers. Now, I'm a little back in the mire. I remember that all emotions are

heightened from K so am being gentle with myself and not acting out. And my

guess there are deep roots here to something. Anyway, thats for listening.

there seems to be something to writing what is going on with me to you all that

helps clear it.

love and blessings to you all on this friday evening,

Jan

[Guest guest]

Yes anger and increased emotional response is normal. Please have a look at the

fear aspect of them and begin to release yourself from its influence over the

emotional body.

 

Fear of loss and want of gain are common roots for emotional response.

 

Take a step back and mentally come into the realization that everything is going

well. These issues are coming up to be given a treatment of the safety

protocols. They are being highlighted for becoming balanced.

 

Take a walk or a swim or both and let the natural processes of the Kundalini

Consciousness do its work upon and within you. -

 

, " Jan " <drjandean

wrote:

>

> I guess the waves of anger are rippling through the group.

[Guest guest]

I sure understand what your going through, Jan. It seems people try hard to get

out of paying these days. We are still struggling with Workman's comp trying to

get out of paying for the hospital bill last year and our medical insurance

won't pay it because the accident happened while on the job in the company

vehicle. It looks like we are going to have to go through the hazzle of going to

court with this. My husband was out of work for 6 months last year because of

these people's scew-ups. I think they should not only pay the hospital bill, but

pay his 6 months of lost salary as well.

 

Do these insurance companies think we give them a huge hunk of our salary each

month out of the kindness of our heart or what? We should not have to fight

tooth and nail when it's time for them to pay up.

 

I have keep my cool about it when talking to them, but something is going to

have to give. I wonder if they would like to have a huge sample of my anger.

Hehe! This is a huge sum of money for us, about $40,000.

 

And life goes on.....

 

Blessings,

Linda

 

, " Jan " <drjandean

wrote:

>

> I guess the waves of anger are rippling through the group. My turn.

> Jan

>

[Guest guest]

Jan,

 

 

 

Before you judge your Landlord too harshly put yourself in his place and try

to see what it is he may have to do to bring the unit back to the same

condition as when you moved in. Being a RE Broker with some LL rep

experience I can assure most LL's don't arbitrarily keep security deposits.

If when you moved in there was fresh paint then the next person will most

likely expect fresh paint as well. I know that many things are simply the

result of life but remember, especially now, everyone including LL's are

struggling to keep from losing what little bit they have and can ill afford

to come up with money out of pocket to make those small repairs like door

dings, cabinet scars, etc while still making their mortgage payments.

 

 

 

Just some thoughts that might put you on to a different track of thinking.

 

 

 

Peace.

 

 

 

Brother Asa

 

 

 

 

On Behalf Of Jan

06/19/2009 3:11 PM

 

Re: over come by anger

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I guess the waves of anger are rippling through the group. My turn. My

previous landlord hadn't returned my security deposit or sent a letter as

per the tenant agreement so yesterday I sent him a friendly email reminder,

even though I was angry that I had to take the action. Interesting, I was

having all sorts of body fluttering/sensations as I wrote the short and

concise email. Then I received an email back today saying that the letter

re: the security deposit is in the mail, sent today no doubt. so many

feelings are coming up about this, anger (that he has treated me so badly),

fear (of his anger), shame (I was a bad tenant so I'm not getting my

security deposit back) etc. I've been sending him forgiveness, myself

forgiveness, seeing if there is some legitimate recourse I might take if I

receive no money although the money isn't going to make or break me because

it isn't a huge sum. Sitting with it all. When I was meditating yesterday, I

got the clear sense that his anger is his projection onto me of his own

stuff/karma/etc. and I didn't have to take it on. I was also aware of how

many <angry> people's projections I had taken on, including my fathers. Now,

I'm a little back in the mire. I remember that all emotions are heightened

from K so am being gentle with myself and not acting out. And my guess there

are deep roots here to something. Anyway, thats for listening. there seems

to be something to writing what is going on with me to you all that helps

clear it.

love and blessings to you all on this friday evening,

Jan

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Chrism,

Thanks, your words help me shift gears. Just took a long walk that was rather

like a swim as its near 100 degrees and very humid. I'll let Kundalini

consciousness sweat the fear away.

Love and blessings to you, Jan

 

, " chrism " <>

wrote:

>

> Yes anger and increased emotional response is normal.

[Guest guest]

Linda,

 

 

 

I will send you some prayers and extra energy as you may need it. Depending

on where you reside it can be quite daunting to have to deal with the

worker's comp system. I received a work related injury in 1982 that

eventually caused me to have to change careers but that was small stuff

compared to the worker's comp system.

 

 

 

Love, prayers, and lots of staying energy.

 

 

 

Brother Asa

 

 

 

 

On Behalf Of Linda

06/19/2009 4:44 PM

 

Re: over come by anger

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I sure understand what your going through, Jan. It seems people try hard to

get out of paying these days. We are still struggling with Workman's comp

trying to get out of paying for the hospital bill last year and our medical

insurance won't pay it because the accident happened while on the job in the

company vehicle. It looks like we are going to have to go through the hazzle

of going to court with this. My husband was out of work for 6 months last

year because of these people's scew-ups. I think they should not only pay

the hospital bill, but pay his 6 months of lost salary as well.

 

Do these insurance companies think we give them a huge hunk of our salary

each month out of the kindness of our heart or what? We should not have to

fight tooth and nail when it's time for them to pay up.

 

I have keep my cool about it when talking to them, but something is going to

have to give. I wonder if they would like to have a huge sample of my

anger. Hehe! This is a huge sum of money for us, about $40,000.

 

And life goes on.....

 

Blessings,

Linda

 

 

<%40> , " Jan "

<drjandean wrote:

>

> I guess the waves of anger are rippling through the group. My turn.

> Jan

>

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Hey Bruce, I read this and it sparked up a question in me. I wonder if the

feeling that anger is bad is the reason that feminine compassion is so easily

embraced but not masculine?

 

It seems that the power of anger, to sit in that fire and fully embrace it and

honor it and to use it to if action is required (it seems anger is only

dysfunctional when repressed or disowned), gives one the power of masculine

compassion. Sometimes yes, someone in suffering needs feminine compassion with

nurturing and embracing but at other times they need a good kick in the rear or

a smack in the face when they need to be woken up. Without the negativity about

feeling angry, I think anger can mature into masculine compassion...one doesn't

have to be a doormat and plus it has the power of brutal honesty.

Those are my thoughts about anger, and I agree with you Bruce.

Anger is as natural as being natural in nature imho. It's only when we bring

negativity toward it that turns it into something really ugly.

 

love

craig

 

 

 

 

, " bruce_oom "

<bruce_oom wrote:

>

> Hi everyone,

>

> its being interesting reading these posts and thank you for all your voices. I

have a different take on this (gonno play devils advocate here), so just gonno

throw out my perspective.

>

> I sometimes wonder if it is an egoic notion that non-anger is idealized and we

should only act from love. Are we caught up in ideas of self that anger is not

ok? Is the ego hijacking the 'love-ideal'? For me, anger arises when something I

value is threatened, and it shows me what I value.

>

> Since my K. process, I feel anger much more powerfully and more raw than ever

before. Before expressing, I go through a process of trying to understand the

root of my anger. Is it my own neurosis playing out? Or is it my Higher Self

acting to defend a higher way? Didnt Jesus get angry in the temple?

>

> And so, sometimes I act from it, and it can be a powerful force. The first

step is to stay present to anger, and not push it away and not get overwhelmed

from it (lost in it). From being present to anger, and being able to 'hold it',

I can then act, if I choose.

>

> Being present to it is the Higher Self witnessing it, and that which is aware

of anger, is free of anger. My experience has been to rest in anger, and then it

self liberates, like all other emotions...

>

> love

> Bruce

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks for the ups on that Asa. James' employer is on his side with all this,

after all he doesn't pay workman's comp insurance just for the heck of it. They

are claiming the accident was caused from a pre-existing condition, but James

has to have a dot check up every year and he has never fail one or he would not

have been working. The hospital did not find any reason for his passing out and

they took every kind of test they could think of. He had to pass a medical

checkup to go back to work. He has not had any more passing out spells and he

never had one prior to the accident. Hehe! I think his passing out was K related

myself. Sometimes, I think James is farther along than I am with this K stuff

even though he doesn't want to know about. He had gone through about 5

near-death experiences already. I would think that could activate you.

 

If he has to go to court I hope James will get the same judge he had when he

went to court against the Texas Medical Board. That would be a hoot!

 

Thanks for your prayers and extra energy sent.

 

Blessing to you Asa,

Linda

 

, " Asa " <asa wrote:

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> Linda,

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> Love, prayers, and lots of staying energy.

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> Brother Asa

[Guest guest]

Me too, I went for my 5 mile walk again. Mine was rather like a swim too. Hehe!

My grandson went with me tonight though. I didn't know that boy could talk so

much. He talked all the way there and back non-stop.

We talked a little about everything, even kundalini.

 

I hope some fear got sweated out of me too. I feel great again! I planned to go

over the safeties really good tonight.

 

Linda

 

, " Jan " <drjandean

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> Chrism,

> Thanks, your words help me shift gears. Just took a long walk that was rather

like a swim as its near 100 degrees and very humid. I'll let Kundalini

consciousness sweat the fear away.

> Love and blessings to you, Jan

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> > Yes anger and increased emotional response is normal.

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hey Craig,

 

I was thinking about this today, and what you say makes sense to me in the

context of my anger exploration and figuring out this energy and its

expression.. and furthur explorations may change my viewpoint..lol..

 

i feel the first stage is to able to hold it and not express it, and until some

level of stabilization is gained in the Authentic Self, then it's better not to

express it. My understanding is that once the ego is sufficiently transcended,

then the enlightened mind is really not limited in what it can use to express

itself in teh world of form, depending on what the requirements of the moment

are (and Chrism, you know more than me on this, so please correct me if I get it

wrong)

 

Once the individual is confidant (after a thorough process of self

investigation, shadow and so on) that its not a shadow issue, then sometimes a

good kick up the ass is exactly what the masculine does. I like to frame it as

'Loving anger'.. haha.. so you both love the person, yet express anger to get a

point across.. kind of loving your enemies yet welcoming the battle..and

sometimes people gotto hear the truth.. so long as its not a projection, but the

truth..

 

I have found that in my shadow explorations.. (there was a lot down there. lol),

a once off authentic expression of the root anger in the world, having the

courage to act from the authentic feeling, has been a key to get past the

pattern..

 

I kind of have a three times rule..I am not a habitually angry person, so if I

get angry three times for a similiar reason, then I get very suspicious that

there may be a shadow issue surfacing..

 

yet if someone tries to attack someone I care about, I want to flatten him.. so

that would be an expression of anger in response to an immediate threat, as

compared to a pattern srufacing...

 

anyway, rambling on..

 

love

Bruce

 

 

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> Hey Bruce, I read this and it sparked up a question in me. I wonder if the

feeling that anger is bad is the reason that feminine compassion is so easily

embraced but not masculine?

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