Guest guest Posted June 22, 2009 Report Share Posted June 22, 2009 Namaste just for a bit of clarification. . .from my understanding and work with Eastern teachers there are two different path of Tantra that is practiced from Hinduism and Buddhism. . .one is more like the left hand path that is written about with LaVey or Crowley, but the right hand path of tantra is based on high standards of purity and it is called the white path. . .for it is an inner process not based on couples physically joining. . . here is a quick link that might help make the distinction: http://www.indopedia.org/Tantra.html <http://www.indopedia.org/Tantra.html> hope you do not mind this clarification. . . .for i do not think it is in the same arena as LaVey's teachings. . . peace and honor sparrow , " chrism " <> wrote: > > Tantra is another left hand path and goes against many of the conservative and acceptable understandings of Hinduism. Really the Shamanic is also in this area but due to its antiquity in suffused throughout all belief systems of humanity. > > Zoroastrianism and the worship of Ahura Mazda. > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zoroastrianism > > The early Egyptian religions were quite unique and very old as well. > > These serve as precursors to how we view spirituality. We are as a society still strongly influenced by these ancient belief systems. In some cases only the names have been changed or manipulated. > > The pre Sumerian Kings had their own belief systems and would be considered as of the Left hand path. Just to show you how far back we go and of the different life expectancies and governing structures here is a listing of the early dynastic Sumerian Kings. They would also be considered to be of a " left hand path " in our current society. > > > Early Dynastic I > Ante-diluvian kings, legendary, or earlier than ca. the 26th century BC. Their rules are measured in sars - periods of 3600 years - the next unit up after 60 in Sumerian counting (3600 = 60x60), and in ners - units of 600. > " After the kingship descended from heaven, the kingship was in Eridug. In Eridug, Alulim became king; he ruled for 28800 years. " > • Alulim of Eridug: 8 sars (28800 years) > • Alalgar of Eridug: 10 sars (36000 years) > • En-Men-Lu-Ana of Bad-Tibira: 12 sars (43200 years) > • En-Men-Ana 1, 2 > • En-Men-Gal-Ana of Bad-Tibira: 8 sars (28800 years) > • Dumuzi of Bad-Tibira, the shepherd: 10 sars (36000 years) > • En-Sipad-Zid-Ana of Larag: 8 sars (28800 years) > • En-Men-Dur-Ana of Zimbir: 5 sars and 5 ners (21000 years) > • Ubara-Tutu of Shuruppag: 5 sars and 1 ner (18600 years) > • Zin-Suddu 1 > 1:These two names are present on slightly over half of the versions of the sumerian king lists, but not on others. > 2:In the place of En-Men-Ana in some versions of the list is the name Kichu-Ana > [edit] > Early Dynastic II > ca. 26th century BC. Many rulers known from contemporary inscriptions are not found in the King Lists. > " After the flood had swept over, and the kingship had descended from heaven, the kingship was in Kish. " > [edit] > First Dynasty of Kish > • Jushur of Kish: 1200 years > • Kullassina-bel of Kish: 960 years > • Nangishlishma of Kish: 670 years > • En-Tarah-Ana of Kish: 420 years > • Babum of Kish: 300 years > • Puannum of Kish: 840 years > • Kalibum of Kish: 960 years > • Kalumum of Kish: 840 years > • Zuqaqip of Kish: 900 years > • Atab of Kish: 600 years > • Mashda of Kish: 840 years > • Arwium of Kish: 720 years > • Etana of Kish, the shepherd, who ascended to heaven and consolidated all the foreign countries: 1500 years > • Balih of Kish: 400 years > • En-Me-Nuna of Kish: 660 years > • Melem-Kish of Kish: 900 years > • Barsal-Nuna of Kish: 1200 years > • Zamug of Kish: 140 years > • Tizqar of Kish: 305 years > • Ilku of Kish: 900 years > • Iltasadum of Kish: 1200 years > • En-Men-Barage-Si of Kish, who conquered Elam: 900 years (this is the earliest ruler in the list who is confirmed independently from epigraphical evidence) > • Aga of Kish: 625 years > Then Kish was defeated and the kingship was taken to E-ana. > [edit] > First Dynasty of Uruk > • Mesh-ki-ang-gasher of E-ana, son of Utu: 324 years. > Mesh-ki-ang-gasher went into the Sea and disappeared. > • Enmerkar, who built Unug: 420 years > • Lugalbanda of Unug, the shepherd: 1200 years > • Dumuzid of Unug, the fisherman: 100 years. Captured En-Me-Barage-Si of Kish. > • Gilgamesh, whose father was a " phantom " , lord of Kulaba: 126 years. > • Ur-Nungal of Unug: 30 years > • Udul-Kalama of Unug: 15 years > • La-Ba'shum of Unug: 9 years > • En-Nun-Tarah-Ana of Unug: 8 years > • Mesh-He of Unug: 36 years > • Melem-Ana of Unug: 6 years > • Lugal-Kitun of Unug: 36 years > Then Unug was defeated and the kingship was taken to Urim. > [edit] > First dynasty of Ur > ca. 25th century BC > • Mesh-Ane-Pada of Urim: 80 years > • Mesh-Ki-Ang-Nanna of Urim: 36 years > • Elulu of Urim: 25 years > • Balulu of Urim: 36 years > Then Urim was defeated and the kingship was taken to Awan. > [edit] > Early Dynastic III > [The 1st Dynasty of Lagash is not mentioned in the King List, though it is well known from inscriptions.] > [edit] > Awan > • Three kings of Awan, ruling for a total of 356 years. > Then Awan was defeated and the kingship was taken to Kish. > > [edit] > Second Dynasty Kish > • Susuda of Kish: 201 years > • Dadasig of Kish: 81 years > • Mamagal of Kish, the boatman: 360 years > • Kalbum of Kish: 195 years > • Tuge of Kish: 360 years > • Men-Nuna of Kish: 180 years > • ? of Kish: 290 years > • Lugalngu of Kish: 360 years > Then Kish was defeated and the kingship was taken to Hamazi. > [edit] > Hamazi > • Hadanish of Hamazi: 360 years > Then Hamazi was defeated and the kingship was taken to Unug. > [edit] > Second Dynasty of Uruk > • En-Shakansha-Ana of Unug: 60 years > • Lugal-Ure (or Lugal-Kinishe-Dudu) of Unug: 120 years > • Argandea of Unug: 7 years > Then Unug was defeated and the kingship was taken to Urim. > [edit] > Second Dynasty of Ur > • Nani of Urim: 120 years > • Mesh-Ki-Ang-Nanna of Urim: 48 years > • ? of Urim: 2 years > Then Urim was defeated and the kingship was taken to Adab. > [edit] > Adab > • Lugal-Anne-Mundu of Adab: 90 years > Then Adab was defeated and the kingship was taken to Mari. > [edit] > Mari > • Anbu of Mari: 30 years > • Anba of Mari: 17 years > • Bazi of Mari: 30 years > • Zizi of Mari: 20 years > • Limer of Mari, the gudu priest: 30 years > • Sharrum-Iter of Mari: 9 years > Then Mari was defeated and the kingship was taken to Kish. > [edit] > Third Dynasty of Kish > • Kug-Baba of Kish, the woman tavern-keeper, who made firm the foundations of Kish: 100 years > (the only woman in the King Lists) > Then Kish was defeated and the kingship was taken to Akshak. > [edit] > Akshak > • Unzi of Akshak: 30 years > • Undalulu of Akshak: 6 years > • Urur of Akshak: 6 years > • Puzur-Nirah of Akshak: 20 years > • Ishu-Il of Akshak: 24 years > • Shu-Sin of Akshak: 7 years > Then Akshak was defeated and the kingship was taken to Kish. > [edit] > Fourth Dynasty of Kish > • Puzur-Sin of Kish: 25 years > • Ur-Zababa of Kish: 400 (6?) years > • Zimudar of Kish: 30 years > • Ussi-Watar of Kish: 7 years > • Eshtar-Muti of Kish: 11 years > • Ishme-Shamash of Kish: 11 years > • Shu-Ilishu of Kish: 15 years > • Nanniya of Kish, the jeweller: 7 years. > Then Kish was defeated and the kingship was taken to Unug. > [edit] > Third Dynasty of Uruk > • Lugal-Zage-Si of Unug: 25 years > (2259 BC–2235 BC short chronology) defeated Lagash. > [edit] > Akkad > • Sargon, whose father was a gardener, the cupbearer of Ur-Zababa, the king (first emperor) of Agade, who built Agade: 56 years > (ca. 2235 BC short chronology) > • Rimush, younger son of Sargon: 9 years > • Man-Ishtishu, older son of Sargon: 15 years > • Naram-Sin, son of Man-Ishtishu: 56 years > • Shar-Kali-Sharri, son of Naram-Sin: 25 years > Then who was king? Who was the king? > • Irgigi, Imi, Nanum, Ilulu: four of them ruled for only 3 years > • Dudu: 21 years > • Shu-Durul, son of Dudu: 15 years > Then Agade was defeated and the kingship was taken to Unug. > [edit] > Fourth Dynasty of Uruk > (Possibly rulers of lower Mesopotamia contemporary with the dynasty of Akkad) > • Ur-Ningin of Unug: 7 years > • Ur-Gigir of Unug: 6 years > • Kuda of Unug: 6 years > • Puzur-Ili of Unug: 5 years > • Ur-Utu (or Lugal-Melem) of Unug: 25 years > Unug was defeated and the kingship was taken to the army of Gutium. > [edit] > Gutian period > In the army of Gutium, at first no king was famous; they were their own kings and ruled thus for 3 years > • Inkishush of Gutium: 6 years > • Zarlagab of Gutium: 6 years > • Shulme (or Yarlagash) of Gutium: 6 years > • Silulumesh (or Silulu) of Gutium: 6 years > • Inimabakesh (or Duga) of Gutium: 5 years > • Igeshaush (or Ilu-An) of Gutium: 6 years > • Yarlagab of Gutium: 3 years > • Ibate of Gutium: 3 years > • Yarla of Gutium: 3 years > • Kurum of Gutium: 1 year > • Apil-Kin of Gutium: 3 years > • La-Erabum of Gutium: 2 years > • Irarum of Gutium: 2 years > • Ibranum of Gutium: 1 year > • Hablum of Gutium: 2 years > • Puzur-Sin of Gutium: 7 years > • Yarlaganda of Gutium: 7 years > • ? of Gutium: 7 years > • Tiriga of Gutium: 40 days > [edit] > Uruk > • Utu-hengal of Unug: conflicting dates (427 years / 26 years / 7 years) > drives out the Gutians > [edit] > Third dynasty of Ur > " Sumerian Renaissance " > • Ur-Nammu of Urim: 18 years > ruled ca. 2065 BC–2047 BC short chronology. > • Shulgi: 46 years > ruled ca. 2047 BC–1999 BC short chronology. > • Amar-Sina of Urim: 9 years > • Shu-Sin of Urim: 9 years > • Ibbi-Sin of Urim: 24 years > Then Urim was defeated. The very foundation of Sumer was torn out (?). The kingship was taken to Isin. > [edit] > Dynasty of Isin > Independent Amorite states in lower Mesopotamia. The dynasty ends at ca. 1730 BC short chronology. > • Ishbi-Erra of Isin: 33 years > • Shu-ilishu of Isin: 20 years > • Iddin-Dagan of Isin: 20 years > • Ishme-Dagan of Isin: 20 years > • Lipit-Eshtar of Isin 11 years > • Ur-Ninurta of Isin (the son of Ishkur, may he have years of abundance, a good reign, and a sweet life): 28 years > • Bur-Sin of Isin: 5 years > • Lipit-Enlil of Isin: 5 years > • Erra-Imitti of Isin: 8 years > • Enlil-Bani of Isin: 24 years (the king's gardener, to celebrate the New Year was named 'king for a day' then sacrificed, the king died during the celebration. Enlil-Bani remained on the throne.) > • Zambiya of Isin: 3 years > • Iter-Pisha of Isin: 4 years > • Ur-Dul-Kuga of Isin: 4 years > • Suen-magir of Isin: 11 years > • Damiq-ilicu of Isin: 23 years > There are 11 cities, cities in which the kingship was exercised. A total of 134 kings, who altogether ruled for 28876 + X years. > [edit] > See also > • Kings of Assyria > • Chronology of the Ancient Orient > [edit] > External links and references > • List of a wide selection of variant copies of the antediluvian part of the list > • The Sumerian king list: translation, as of July 28, 2002 > • Another translation > • Vincente, Claudine-Adrienne, " The Tall Leilan Recension of the Sumerian King List " , Zeitschrift für Assyriologie 50 (1995), 234–270 > • Black, J.A., Cunningham, G., Fluckiger-Hawker, E, Robson, E., and Zólyomi, G., The Electronic Text Corpus of Sumerian Literature (http://www-etcsl.orient.ox.ac.uk/), Oxford 1998. > • The Sumerians and the Akkadians from The Encyclopedia of World History Sixth Edition, Peter N. Stearns (general editor), © 2001 The Houghton Mifflin Company, at Bartleby.com. > Retrieved from " http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sumerian_king_list " > Categories: Sumer | Sumerian rulers > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 22, 2009 Report Share Posted June 22, 2009 Ah! Yes of course the right hand path of a left hand path. Not to be confused as the " only " option of Tantra. Thank you for the clarification sparrow. - blessings! - chrism Kundalini-Awakening-Systems- , " ordinarysparrow " <ordinarysparrow wrote: Namaste >just for a bit of clarification. . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 22, 2009 Report Share Posted June 22, 2009 No offense here but I really hate how LaVey and Crowley are put in the same category lol. Crowley was a pervert and a theistic Satanist and LaVey uses satanism as the pure rule of carnal nature itself, the raw essence of nature with no actual deity (Satan is basically an avatar of a fear people have). LaVey had a high moral standard about not harming anyone or anything, and Crowley liked to have s3x with goats. Ugh. Just thought I would clarify. I am not being defensive or attacking, just want people to know the difference. Not that I am a Satanist myself and I apologize for going off topic. -Tiffany , " ordinarysparrow " <ordinarysparrow wrote: > > > path that is written about with LaVey or Crowley, but the right hand > path of tantra is based on high standards of purity and it is called > the white path. . .for it is an inner process not based on couples > physically joining. . . > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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