shaktipat expectations first timers

June 24, 2009

On my first shaktipat I felt nothing, not a thing, on the second and third,

nothing.

Most of the time thats completely normal.

The first thing I ever felt was my finger began to vibrate slightly and I got so

excited about it! I was telling everyone, my finger my finger!!! LOL

Its quite normal to think you will feel something during the shaktipat but

usually its the deep inner workings that are going on that are important, the

removing of blocks, the conditioning of the inner world and chakras. So much

needs to be done before we can hold this divine gift and if that work isn't done

you will probably end up in the nut house with a few blown circuits. Kundalini

is not a toy, it is not a joke, it is a seriously transformative intelligent

life force energy of the divine.

The way chrism gifts us this energy is actually the most beautiful and safe way,

but its not a quick fix or a jolt up the spine and viola ! Kundalini perfection

in an instant.

Imagine if I threw you 7 burning flaming sticks and just said, here juggle these

without getting burnt and without any training! OUCH!

Shakti wants you to learn discipline, self control, love, balance, forgiveness

etc or else this gift will become a curse and only years of pain may follow.

This is my 3rd year of practice, I have still had no spinal sweep, only little

mini energy bursts, but I am healing the many MANY blockages I had so that when

Shakti has seen I have completed my lessons, purified my self, she will let her

self be fully known to me, best allow her to do it on her terms.

Hope this helps.....

lots of love

elektra x x x

June 25, 2009

Hi Elektra,

yes it helps... ;-)

Thank you very much for your post. The right words at the right time... :-)

I must admit that I had these feelings: ohh, I don't feel anything... is there

something going wrong... something wrong with me...???

Of course I didn't expected the awakening of my kundalini, energy fountain out

off my head or something like that at this shaktipat. That's also not what I'm

really looking for at this moment. But feeling nothing? Hmmm...

I feel that I'm stuck on my way (I felt this before I came here). As long as I

can remember I feel that great inner emptyness, that drives me and that keeps me

away from finding long-lasting joy and peace. For that reason I got on my

spiritual path, learned yoga and qi gong and so on and finally came here. But

after all the years with exercises and meditation and focus on self-knowledge I

don't see that there would be an advance or progress.

I find it very difficult to keep patient and trust the progress if one can't see

any changes over years or any evidence, that there IS a progress. But I don't

want to be a pessimist: shaktipat is not over yet and I belief, that there is

something working in the " background " that I can't see with my conscious mind.

Do you feel the inner emptynes too?

Blessings, robert

> On my first shaktipat I felt nothing, not a thing, on the second and third,

nothing.

> Most of the time thats completely normal.

> The first thing I ever felt was my finger began to vibrate slightly and I got

so excited about it! I was telling everyone, my finger my finger!!! LOL

June 25, 2009

As usual dear Elektra you are right on the mark! Everything you have written

about this is true. Thank you for your concise and authentic experience based

gift of information for those who may not have the understanding of what is

really occurring here at this time. - many blessings and much gratitude Elektra!

- chrism

, Elektra Fire

<elektra.fire wrote:

>

> On my first shaktipat I felt nothing, not a thing, on the second and third,

nothing.

June 25, 2009

I hear you Robert, I feel that deep empty feeling too... that dissatisfaction

with samsara, that deep yearning for meaning and truth. in Buddhism it's called

your Buddha Nature, the inner jewel of enlightened potential.

I'm with you on wanting signs of progress. I've had like 5 or 6 long distance

shaktipats from Chrism, 1 before was in-person from a Hindu yogi. and I

still feel nothing. I'm just not very receptive. so the way I see it, is that

its just helping me out in ways I cannot know. I measure my own progress by

meditating. my ability to concentrate on the breath and how I handle my emotions

and deal with negativity. I think the only way to measure progress is your self,

one cannot rely on shaktipat alone. I very much think shaktipat helps as it

works in the background, but its up to you to progress and bring kundalini to

the foreground

mikael

, " robert_vergin "

<robert.vergin wrote:

>

> Hi Elektra,

>

> yes it helps... ;-)

>

> Thank you very much for your post. The right words at the right time... :-)

>

> I must admit that I had these feelings: ohh, I don't feel anything... is there

something going wrong... something wrong with me...???

>

> Of course I didn't expected the awakening of my kundalini, energy fountain out

off my head or something like that at this shaktipat. That's also not what I'm

really looking for at this moment. But feeling nothing? Hmmm...

>

> I feel that I'm stuck on my way (I felt this before I came here). As long as I

can remember I feel that great inner emptyness, that drives me and that keeps me

away from finding long-lasting joy and peace. For that reason I got on my

spiritual path, learned yoga and qi gong and so on and finally came here. But

after all the years with exercises and meditation and focus on self-knowledge I

don't see that there would be an advance or progress.

>

> I find it very difficult to keep patient and trust the progress if one can't

see any changes over years or any evidence, that there IS a progress. But I

don't want to be a pessimist: shaktipat is not over yet and I belief, that there

is something working in the " background " that I can't see with my conscious

mind.

>

> Do you feel the inner emptynes too?

>

> Blessings, robert

>

> > On my first shaktipat I felt nothing, not a thing, on the second and third,

nothing.

> > Most of the time thats completely normal.

> > The first thing I ever felt was my finger began to vibrate slightly and I

got so excited about it! I was telling everyone, my finger my finger!!! LOL

>

June 25, 2009

I want to correct myself when I said " i feel nothing " ... and say I do feel

vibrations very subtly in meditation and have of course progressed, but as for

shaktipat itself I can't really tell whether its on or off.

the progress that I made thus far can not be solely attributed to the shaktipat.

though I'm sure it is doing something very beneficial.. the only evidence of

this is the experience of others and my belief in those experiences and the

power of chrism's blessings

June 25, 2009

I am not sure exactly what inner emptyness is so I guess I dont feel it :-))

But one I do know for sure is this, nothing is ever wasted, nothing you do is

for nothing!

Everything we do is moving us in a direction and spiritual developement is a

journey to an individual time frame per person, depending on the karma and

blockages/issues one has to face within this lifetime.

Perhaps a long journey with no sings is whats needed for one person, to develope

persaverance and faith with little reward, perhaps a path filled with signs and

miracles for another, some are brought through religion , some are brought

through their hatred or religion, the path is so many and varied and unique like

starts in the sky.

One thing I do know for sure, if you stick to the practice here and really stop

expecting things, the divine flows, it flows as a gentle river usually,

sometimes and waterfall, but it fills you up and cleans you out.

3 years in I can say I have never " seen " such rewards as I've seen with this

path. I have healed things I never thought possible and I cannot express the joy

and gratitude I have for Chrism, Shakti and everyone here on this group. Do the

work, you will get the rewards.

Also, I often find the real benefits of the shaktipat are felt once the 7 days

are completed, the first time I felt anything like a sweep was a few days after

the christmas shaktipat this year, almost 3 years in to my practice.

So, could be you feel things after and between the shaktipats, could be you feel

things during, maybe feel nothing at all until the energy has built up some

momentum within your chakras. And it is nice to feel " a little something " just

to confirm that you are not just wasting time , but the most peace comes after

that first sensation, and you learn to just lose yourself in the path itself,

and not the rewards. Shakti is amazing, if you let her she will take you on the

ride of your life and look after you like a loving mother.

Lots of love

elektra x x x

June 25, 2009

I felt absolutely nothing the first time, nothing I could substantially say was

attributed to the shaktipat. However, last two weeks, the one proceeding the

shaktipat and this one, I have had little mini spasms everywhere. Its happened

before but not so persistently.

Happens on a daily basis, like a muscle twitch. The same as if you have been

tickled too much and then someone touches your stomach and it involuntarily has

a little twitch.

Its been going on long enough for it not just to be the turkey dinner I had etc.

Plus my limbs are twitching too, tiny tiny amounts, but enough for me to notice

that my arm/head/hand/leg has just moved on its own slightly.

Also, the high pitched pure sound has started changing pitches. I get a high

one, then a lower one, then one that seems to come from more inside me. Hard to

explain?

Anyway, all is good!

Blessings to all and sundry!

Andy

x

June 25, 2009

Yes E-

I have been open to K for 1 1/2 years - many things have occurred yet often I do

not associate them with the K- I have had some subtel vibrations and once a good

full body flow of love - that was beautiful. Knowing that the sensations can be

dormant and remain quiet for a time and even after some interesting happenings

they can recede does help me to know it is all part of the process.

It can take years or a lifetime to fully feel the joyous oneness with the

divine- in our situation having protocols and a guide it can go faster as it is

for some. Others of us are on the slow path and that is OK.

Thank you for opening up this discussion. It is important for those who are not

" feeling " what others are to know that it is OK - we are all different.

AND I want to comment on the feelings that come thru from those who have

written in response to your post- I feel a loving and total acceptance of the K

process and of Shakti's ways. You all are amazing - it is not easy to convey

sentiments or thoughts in words at times but I have to say I love reading the

posts of the experiences and the acceptance of what is from all of you.

This is a unique path we are on - this is a unique group of seekers we are part

of and this is an unique individual journey with rewards unimaginable for the

ordinary mind -

You are blessed

You are unique

You are being held in the hands of Shakti

May you know that you are loved

May you love all around you...

e

June 25, 2009

I do know what inner emptiness is. I know that feeling of having a " hole in

your heart, on this day of the heart.. " I know what it is like to try to fill it

up with things, people, and places...I have been there. I have lived every

agonizing moment. For me, it first came from being an " it " child. I wasn't

wanted when I was born; and I was of little significance after that. I tried to

live being an " it " ; but at some point, I stood up and said, " I am ME, I am

alive, I am worthwhile. " So I took on the journey of becoming a " beautiful

woman. " I did everything in my power to make me " perfection " . And it worked.

I attracted men, the wrong types of men. But I had to learn; and I had to

live. And God, in his infinite wisdom, loved me all the time. I wasn't bad,

wrong, or even selfish. I wanted to be LOVED!!! So I had my time with men,

husbands and lovers. Then came the time when that did not work for me either;

and I was left alone

with " ME " ...........God brought me to Austin, then to yoga, then to kundalinii

yoga, then to this website..........and it has been an amazing journey. Yes, I

am not focused on phenomena today, whether anything is vibrating in my body that

is a " good " thing...i am alive. i am well. i see God in other people. I try

to help other people. I LIVE.. I BREATHE....I am ALIVE...........What more

could I ask........

Kundalini is REAL!!!! Kundalini lives and breathes.............It will awaken

and arise if you seek it with all your heart...........

Chris will guide you........Listen to him, read his words........Listen to him,

read his words............it is all you need..........everything else is

extraneous..........

Love to you all. I love you all. Peace to you all, most of all, blessings to

you all...

Namaste

Julie

--- On Thu, 6/25/09, Elektra Fire <elektra.fire wrote:

Elektra Fire <elektra.fire

Re: Re: shaktipat expectations first

timers

Thursday, June 25, 2009, 6:44 AM

I am not sure exactly what inner emptyness is so I guess I dont feel it

:-))