Guest guest Posted June 30, 2009 Report Share Posted June 30, 2009 Hello Shoaib, Please see below separated by @@ , " shoaibdotcom " <shoaibdotcom wrote: > > Dear Chrism, > > Thank you so much for great shaktipat. It was really Nice. As I've posted some of my experience of 4 days on 4 chakras. It was wonderful. @@ You are welcome Shoaib. @@ I felt K fire while chakra breathing on second chakra. It went up to my head and I felt lil pain in my head. In fact I felt this type of fire in my childhood but I was not aware of this fire at that time that this is Kundalini:) And on the 6th day os shaktipat while breathing on 3rd eye, I felt the same fire/heat all over my body but most in my hands, feet, ears and back of my head. And the strange thing was this that I didnt feel it in my crown. I felt it cool while the back of my head, ears and the rest of body felt heated..... So what would be that Dear Chrism? @@ A cool feeling at the crown is also a symptom of the Kundalini being present and activated. Its not just a fire and a heat that is a discriptor for the Kundalini. Shakti is often as a cool breeze. The Sacred Femimine can be cool, the Sacred Male can be hot. So it will be patterns of both temps being felt and experienced.@@ > I read your post for last day of shaktipat .... But I was not confirm whether we should chakra breath for crown or not........ I tried chakra breath for crown but it didnt worked well....So I got the clue that I should not breath on crown. It gave me idea that Kundalini guides you in very good way... @@ Yes do " not " chakra breathe into the crown. @@ > And yesturday While I was half awake and half sleep in morning, I felt too much strong waves coming out of my root chakra and it came whole of my body.... but it was not heat it was strong current type of sensation.. So what would it be dear Chrism? Because it was not heat but strong current. So is K have different form like heat, current etc? or is it spinal sweep or what? @@ Yes Kundalini has many different manifestations of appearance and presence within the body. A strong " current " is one of them. Doesnt have to accompany a Spinal Sweep these are extremely self describing and one " knows " when this has occurred. @@ > I already feel strong current in my whole of body and I can generate these currents by my will at any time. Its been from many years. And when this current is generated, I feel my body hair eracted and this current goes from my head to toe. Sometimes I feel this current generated from back of my heart chakra and sometimes I feel it generation from back of my solar plexus. (The location of generation of current is not confirm to me) But the current I told you before which I felt while sleeping, was much different from the current I can generate by myself. This new current was much stronger but I observed it only once.... Any word from your side dear chrism on this regard! @@ Begin to do good things for others consistently Shoaib. @@ > And another thing i am feeling right now is anger and my loose temper. I feel instent loose temper now a days and I try to control it but my intentions and control doesnt work very well. So any advice on that? @@ Force yourself to be forgiving for yourself and towards others. As well as Tolerant and patient and giving of kindness even in the face of persecution. Please understand that you are no longer the child screaming and striking out at others with his emotions. Now is the time for your emotional maturity to be exercised. Kundalini will demand this and you must begin to change your response to your temper. This can bring Pain to you if you do not Shoaib. Others around you may be as the child slaves to their ego emotions but you Shoaib cannot indulge in this further. Understand? This can cause an extreme backlash of pain within and around you so please understand this and take heed of this warning for you. - blessings Shoaib - chrism @@ > > Hope to hear you soon! > > Salam! > > Shoaib > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 1, 2009 Report Share Posted July 1, 2009 Dear Chrism, Thank you so much for your kind reply. I am learning many things here under your guidance. And yes you are right that I must control my anger and temper. And as the shaktpat week is ended, can we do chakra breathing after some days? If yes then what would be the time gap. I tried to do it after shaktipat week but I couldnt focused on my breath and could not do it well as i used to do in shaktipat week. So I got the clue that there should be gap between each chakra breathing.. And an other things which I wanted to ask. That is Kundalini Reiki developed by Mr. Ole Gebliensen. I've got its mastership. And on my second level I felt the Kundalini rising upto my head and it was safe with no pain or any other -ve effect. So where does that K Reiki takes a person in Kundalini awakening? Any expert opinion on it? Salam! Shoaib , " chrism " <> wrote: > > Hello Shoaib, > Please see below separated by @@ > > > , " shoaibdotcom " <shoaibdotcom@> wrote: > > > > Dear Chrism, > > > > Thank you so much for great shaktipat. It was really Nice. As I've posted some of my experience of 4 days on 4 chakras. It was wonderful. > > @@ You are welcome Shoaib. @@ > > > I felt K fire while chakra breathing on second chakra. It went up to my head and I felt lil pain in my head. In fact I felt this type of fire in my childhood but I was not aware of this fire at that time that this is Kundalini:) And on the 6th day os shaktipat while breathing on 3rd eye, I felt the same fire/heat all over my body but most in my hands, feet, ears and back of my head. And the strange thing was this that I didnt feel it in my crown. I felt it cool while the back of my head, ears and the rest of body felt heated..... So what would be that Dear Chrism? > > @@ A cool feeling at the crown is also a symptom of the Kundalini being present and activated. Its not just a fire and a heat that is a discriptor for the Kundalini. Shakti is often as a cool breeze. The Sacred Femimine can be cool, the Sacred Male can be hot. So it will be patterns of both temps being felt and experienced.@@ > > > I read your post for last day of shaktipat .... But I was not confirm whether we should chakra breath for crown or not........ I tried chakra breath for crown but it didnt worked well....So I got the clue that I should not breath on crown. It gave me idea that Kundalini guides you in very good way... > > @@ Yes do " not " chakra breathe into the crown. @@ > > > > > And yesturday While I was half awake and half sleep in morning, I felt too much strong waves coming out of my root chakra and it came whole of my body.... but it was not heat it was strong current type of sensation.. So what would it be dear Chrism? Because it was not heat but strong current. So is K have different form like heat, current etc? or is it spinal sweep or what? > > @@ Yes Kundalini has many different manifestations of appearance and presence within the body. A strong " current " is one of them. Doesnt have to accompany a Spinal Sweep these are extremely self describing and one " knows " when this has occurred. @@ > > > > I already feel strong current in my whole of body and I can generate these currents by my will at any time. Its been from many years. And when this current is generated, I feel my body hair eracted and this current goes from my head to toe. Sometimes I feel this current generated from back of my heart chakra and sometimes I feel it generation from back of my solar plexus. (The location of generation of current is not confirm to me) But the current I told you before which I felt while sleeping, was much different from the current I can generate by myself. This new current was much stronger but I observed it only once.... Any word from your side dear chrism on this regard! > > @@ Begin to do good things for others consistently Shoaib. @@ > > > And another thing i am feeling right now is anger and my loose temper. I feel instent loose temper now a days and I try to control it but my intentions and control doesnt work very well. So any advice on that? > > @@ Force yourself to be forgiving for yourself and towards others. As well as Tolerant and patient and giving of kindness even in the face of persecution. > > Please understand that you are no longer the child screaming and striking out at others with his emotions. Now is the time for your emotional maturity to be exercised. Kundalini will demand this and you must begin to change your response to your temper. This can bring Pain to you if you do not Shoaib. > > Others around you may be as the child slaves to their ego emotions but you Shoaib cannot indulge in this further. Understand? This can cause an extreme backlash of pain within and around you so please understand this and take heed of this warning for you. - blessings Shoaib - chrism @@ > > > > Hope to hear you soon! > > > > Salam! > > > > Shoaib > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 1, 2009 Report Share Posted July 1, 2009 No chakra breathing until you are able to have control over the emotional body which is under restructuring at this time. Give it about three months with consistency in developing your conscious control over ego emotional manifestations. I do not have an opinion about Mr Ole. Kundalini Reiki is in most cases - though not all - fraudulent in my humble opinion. It is used as a cash producing New Age device in many cases. Not all are this way but many are this way. Same with Kundalini teachers! - lol! One issue is that the Children of the Ego - us - we do not have the information or knowledge or wisdom to discern energetic patterns. We do not have the ability through experience or teachers with the ability or experience to discern between what an entity coursing through the body can feel like or the different qualities of energetic surges that can be given from different sources into the body. There is a tendency to feel that: " Ohhhhhmygod!!! Since I am like in this reiki Kundalini class and I am like doing the master deal and have like paid my money I am like sooo feeling the energy! " The association with a class or a seminar can be in the absence of anything else the only reference point a person can have inside of a universe of opportunity and a universe that can become opportunistic. Meaning entities. Little is known in the New Age masses of energetic discernment. Many of the reiki programs and practitioners have no clue about what they are bringing into people via the permission for " universal healing masters " or " lords of this or that divine ray " or this ascended master or another one. No discernment is given or technique of discernment that can distinguish between entity incursion and Kundalini as in many cases the practitioner themselves have not awakened Kundalini and there fore once again have no clue. They are making money and being seen as the " Master " and that is all that matters. Not all are in this category to be sure. I am taking the worst for use as examples. So as you can see - lol! My opinion of Reiki in general leaves much to be improved upon. At this point I feel it is a dangerous and often harmful approach to exalted states with limited success. There are some who have been awakened. We have members here who have been here from the beginning with positive reiki experiences so I am not speaking in absolutes! I am writing of what is given for me to write about in regards to the Reiki movement in general and the areas of danger and weakness that is given to the innocent through promise of one thing with the reception of another different thing for a price. If you must do reiki get a track record of positive and negative experiences and then at least make some kind of an informed choice. Many " things " can swim the spine Shoaib and how would you know to differentiate?. - , " shoaibdotcom " <shoaibdotcom wrote: Dear Chrism, Thank you so much for your kind reply. I am learning many things here under your guidance. And yes you are right that I must control my anger and temper. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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