Be as you are - Deb and Mr Carride- Edgar

July 8, 2009

Hi ya Edgar,

I mean Mr. Desireless...wait...

not undesirable but desireless! (Just so we get that straight - I know the long

line of creatures desiring you...could you ask them to move out of the street

please? )

You know what Mr. Edgar Desireless; " What? " say you...

Can we just laugh our way to enlightenment? I did the serious thing and that

didn't work out so great...(spent some time hiding under the covers!ha) so do

you know anyone that has laughed their way there? Anyone??? I know they talk

about the laughing buddha but I suppose that was after he became

self-realized... was it?

When I was all serious - I mean when hard times came a callin' and I stopped

laughing - it wasn't so pleasant for me - now I try to laugh about it,

sometimes it takes some doing - it may not change things that much - although

actually it really may have but anyway I seem to move through it quicker and its

a lot more fun - so I wish to laugh through this life - this is a desire - i

have many more - what is the difference between liking something and desiring? I

mean if you desire something - like for example jetpacks to strap on to go

flying about town - yes I'd like to see everyone with one - its a sorta fun

desire but if it doesnt happen I'm okay with it - but on the other hand if I

have to be really serious and disciplined so that it takes the joy out of living

to attain enlightenment - well thats one desire that would be hard for me being

that I'd probably end up just back hiding under the covers-

Which leads me to my next question...I know when I'm in that stillness I'm not

laughing - I'm happy though of course - so does that mean God/the

divine/yourhigherself/ whatever you call it...does that mean there is no sense

of humor there? Is laughing just an ego thing?

I ponder this much - yes I should leave it for my Saturday night live ramblings

and only touch lightly here but without ego (you know what I mean) is anyone

laughing?

Although the desire for happiness is probably the desire for enlightenment - so

if I let go of the desire to be happy - shoot I'm back under my covers again!

Or maybe the next step would be that of just peace. Right? I'm just

being...thinking to devoting one day a week to just that! And actually I'm quite

content just being - don't you wish I'd go off and just " be " right now???

Honestly right now I'm in my head tooooo much! haha I can be rather annoying,

yes? EDGAR DONT YOU AGREE or I'll send Linda over to your place and have her do

her n*ked cartwheels on your front lawn with a sign reading " Edgar made me do

it! " Then all your neighbors will be really wondering about you Mr. Edgar

Desireless...(:

Okay really I just wanted to say thanks for the crazy complement - got kinda

carried away again! And a shout out to my friend MrCarride if its who I think it

is! See what we started here?? hahaha

So Is there Joy without Desire? Is there happiness without desire? Is there

motivation without desire? Is there the will to live without desire?

You know just some light questions here! (:

Oh and I love my big bellied Smiling Buddha sitting next to my laptop btw! (:

In case you were wondering...

Deb

July 8, 2009

deb, please dont stop laghing.. I mean, stop when it's necessary, but not as a

forever thing..

I dont feel it is requred, how can it be?

maybe there doesent have to be " one thing " ?

maybe it's just the desire to be happy that goes away? you are just happy or

whatever it is and dont have the part when you are down and thinking oh why am i

so down I want to be happy and feel connection and what is wrong with me? that

feel more like ego to me.

laghter is light, it tickels, it doesent even need a reason to be.. why would it

be of the ego?

but then, I dont know anything at all, and am very much full of ego; and dont

even know what is it really, so I really dont know..

and see, your Big Bellied Budda is smiling isn't he! that is comforting isn't it

love,

lu

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>

> So Is there Joy without Desire? Is there happiness without desire? Is there

motivation without desire? Is there the will to live without desire?

>

> You know just some light questions here! (:

>

> Oh and I love my big bellied Smiling Buddha sitting next to my laptop btw! (:

> In case you were wondering...

>

> Deb

>

July 8, 2009

Hahaha hey Deb,

I might be mr desireless but im not without a sense of humor..no..being

desireless for me is detachment from all things. i laugh at all ur crazy ideas

too..hehe. of course i desire somethings but the attachment is not there, like

u said..if its not there i can still live without it. and living without desires

does not mean being so serious all the time, actually it is the opposite, since

we are not slaves to it we are so free that it is so much more fun to pursue

enlightenment. without the attachments we become empty, there is a void in us

that God would fill up. in the process of filling up, we experience love and

bliss and ecstasy and peace...so there is never a dull moment. so we can have

our fun even while striving for perfection in a serious manner..just my take on

it..

love and bliss,

edgar

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Wednesday, July 8, 2009 12:50:22 PM

Re: Be as you are - Deb and Mr Carride-

Edgar

Hi ya Edgar,

I mean Mr. Desireless.. .wait...

not undesirable but desireless! (Just so we get that straight - I know the long

line of creatures desiring you...could you ask them to move out of the street

please? )

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July 8, 2009

Hello our smiling Edgar!

I am feeling much better about things! So you can desire but not be attached!!!

I can do that now!!!!

I like also what you wrote about how as we empty God fills us with experiences

of love, bliss, ecstasy and peace! You know what...this is all really great for

me to hear... Thank you Laughing Blissing Edgar - wish I had a statue of you

laughing and blissing next to my buddha! Actually would like a little statue of

everyone here in their bliss all lined up on my shelf! There are 800 members now

someone said...can you imagine 800 laughing blissin statues all lined up around

your house!!! hahaha Edgar...this may be one of my crazy ideas again...but come

on...you know you want 'em too!(you know in a non-attached way!)

Thank you Edgar!! It is a pleasure talking with you my friend!

Deb

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July 8, 2009

Hahaha..ur really crazy Debs..800 laughing statues???

about ur question on hungering for aheeemm? u can have that too..but remember in

a non-attached way hehe no pun intended..like what chrism said..just do it!!!

laughing & blissing with u,

edgar

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Wednesday, July 8, 2009 1:44:27 PM

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July 8, 2009

To me I seeing " desire " as a God (I Am) given gift, that was given to the

animal-human so that it would produce activity/movement. Without it we would not

have evolved to this next stage of becoming a spiritual being. You could really

look at the serpent in the garden as representing/a symbol for " desire " . It

was/is a neccessary thing to move us into becoming. Without it we would have

stayed animal living only by instincts rather than changing to living by aware

choices. It is because of it though, that we were removed from the garden and

banned from the Tree of life (full kundalini awakening) until we grew into the

next stage in our growth.

Hehe! I am getting this from a K book I was reading on just yesterday.

Coincidence?

Adam symbolized subconscious mind and Eve represnted conscious mind.

The conscious mind (Eve) was stimulated by desire for knowledge and wisdom

(serpent or kundalini energy). This partaking of knowledge and wisdom caused the

expression of indiviual desire to grow, creating ego. The ego's function is to

motivate the conscious mind into action.

I don't exactly agree with all this woman wrote. To me it seems it should be

vice-verse. With Adam represnting the conscious mind and Eve the subconscious,

for desire and creativity begans in the subconscious first (doesn't it?) and

then goes to the conscious mind and into action. I don't get that part.

Anyways, I just wrote this much of it to help with understanding of how desire

plays in the scheme of things. As we grow spiritually the need/desire for

physical outward things gradually lessens, so does the ego. That is the way I

see it.

My greatest desire is to become one with God, but I still have plenty of desires

for earthly things, like creature comforts of a house to live in and food to

eat, a car to drive me here and there, even though I do like walking too. Some

places I desire to go are just way to far for walking. I have desire to have

relationships and to help others in what ever way I can. I LOVE my family and

friends and I do LOVE my computer! LOL! I am not so attached that I would not

give them all up for the pearl of great price (the Kingdom of Heaven). I just

see them as things and peoples that are necessary for living here in this

physical earth world right now.

I just don't see how anyone can do away with all desires while still living in

the physical and continue physical living or have the ego to completely done

away with. Until we evolved into the spiritual godman, we will continue to have

need of the outward physical things and the ego for motivation. That is the way

I see it.

I do think we can come to the realization of knowing we are that god being, but

we have to pass from this earthly world in complete purity to actually become.

After all Jesus did, he died to the physical first and the spiritual before

becoming Godman. I do believe he was a fully awakened spiritual being before his

death and also was borned fully awakened. He was pure from birth to death, he

was without sin. If not, his lying down his life as a final sacrifice, in an act

of Pure LOVE for mankind would have been for naught.

Linda

, " flowerpowers7777 "

<flowerpowers7777 wrote:

>

> Hi ya Edgar,

>

> I mean Mr. Desireless...wait...

> not undesirable but desireless! (Just so we get that straight - I know the

long line of creatures desiring you...could you ask them to move out of the

street please? )

>

> You know what Mr. Edgar Desireless; " What? " say you...

>

> Can we just laugh our way to enlightenment? I did the serious thing and that

didn't work out so great...(spent some time hiding under the covers!ha) so do

you know anyone that has laughed their way there? Anyone??? I know they talk

about the laughing buddha but I suppose that was after he became

self-realized... was it?

> When I was all serious - I mean when hard times came a callin' and I stopped