Crucifixion/birth of new -

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Hi everyone,

 

hope you are all well.. just a quick note, if anyone is interested..

 

http://integrallife.com/

 

on this site, on the community section, there is a thread on 'possible

interpretations of christs resurrection'...

 

love

Bruce

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In regards to this discussion, I feel the need to speak freely. It is apparent

that one can outright repose the thoughts of another in this group by calling it

s#it so let me be honest. I do not intend to create dissent or start a

theological debate, but my feelings were hurt. This is the point of my

discussion. Not the statement in my post. I feel I have just as much of a right

to talk about my feelings here.

 

I do not intend for the original author to feel guilty by any means

what-so-ever. You merely relayed your interpretation on the crucifixion and I

thought it a beautiful interpretation. I respect and love your views. They are

perfect! That said--

 

I am cerebral by nature and Theology is a fascination for me. I love Christians,

Hindus, Mormons, Jewish, Atheists and Satanists (Even the theistic ones) the

same. When I posted that it was merely me, bringing up an interesting topic. I

like to think, ponder, philosophize. I see good in every religion and idea. It

is inspiring and thought provoking. It is the melting pot of humanity. I thought

I was in an open-minded group and I could be free here. I simply wanted to share

a thought. It was not an opposing view of the authors post. Please understand

this. I figured that since we can so freely discuss Shakti and animal totems...

Why not ponder the particular thought I posted? I mean I even posted a smiley

face in the post!!!!

 

Now about the history of the bible and calling the Dead Sea scrolls and the Nag

Hammadi, etc s#it. According to historical evidence, Constantine is responsible

for the canon as it is today. He set up an organization of priests and bishops

and they picked and chose what books would fit into their bible and disposed of

the rest as they did not serve the canon for whatever reason. They were hidden

in caves and in dust, until they could be uncovered again one day. This is fact.

The truth of these texts are to be interpreted as one sees fit.

 

Now I am not theistic in any way. I love the Gnostic view even though I do not

take it literal.

 

I am offended and at a point where I want to cry. What does the Holocaust have

to do with anything? That is a horrible way to prove a point. I have been

persecuted by Christians all of my life. Called the Devil for thinking freely. I

never even offended anyone then. Simply asked questions. I may be seen as rash

with this post, but that is fine. I am not in control of anyone's perception of

me.

 

I just had to say this. This is upsetting to me and not what I came here for.

 

I don't want anyone feeling sorry for me. I am simply stating how I feel. I am

not trying to create dissent.

 

Thank you.

 

-Tiffany

[Guest guest]

Deaqr Tiffany... I have a new computer...lap top..... and I am not sure if some

of my post was sent as it dissappeared from my screen???... the keys are very

responsive to touch...I am going to repsond to this post and then no more as

there are 145 unread in my in box....

 

I am sorry that you have been offended by my post... I though that this was an

open minded forum too, and I find it difficult to understand why my saying some

books are full of sh7t would cause you offence.  I probably should have left the

holocost out of it... I was trying to make the point.... in a quick way and

obviously missed the mark by a mile... that there are books written stating

thatt the holocost did not happen... in the same way as a book written suggests

that Jesus was not cruiicified... I was attempting to say that historical fact

is fact and some books are full of sh7t... simple as that... nothing to be

offended I would have thought.

My response was about the book not about you.

 It is as you say a historical fact thast constantine was responsible fo

cannon,, picking and choosing ect ect....  the gnostic gospels are wonderful and

texts are to be read and interpereted as one wishes......I am not trying

to defend christian or catholic teaching.....  I am just stating my own opinion

that some books are full of sh7t.... I did not mean for you to think that you

could not write what ever you want... If some one wanted to mention a book that

suggested Jesus was never really born, I have no problem with them doing that...

I actually think that you are perfect also Tiffany... I am sorry that you have

been persecuted by christians all your life.... I support free thinking and free

speech for everyone.....and I hold that view for myself too.......I am also

entitled to state my opinion about the view a book takes... or is that not ok? 

 

 

 

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angelikdementia <angelikdementia

 

Friday, July 10, 2009 6:07:35 AM

Re: Crucifixion/birth of new -

 

 

 

 

 

In regards to this discussion, I feel the need to speak freely. It is apparent

that one can outright repose the thoughts of another in this group by calling it

s#it so let me be honest. I do not intend to create dissent or start a

theological debate, but my feelings were hurt. This is the point of my

discussion. Not the statement in my post. I feel I have just as much of a right

to talk about my feelings here.

 

I do not intend for the original author to feel guilty by any means

what-so-ever. You merely relayed your interpretation on the crucifixion and I

thought it a beautiful interpretation. I respect and love your views. They are

perfect! That said--

 

I am cerebral by nature and Theology is a fascination for me. I love Christians,

Hindus, Mormons, Jewish, Atheists and Satanists (Even the theistic ones) the

same. When I posted that it was merely me, bringing up an interesting topic. I

like to think, ponder, philosophize. I see good in every religion and idea. It

is inspiring and thought provoking. It is the melting pot of humanity. I thought

I was in an open-minded group and I could be free here. I simply wanted to share

a thought. It was not an opposing view of the authors post. Please understand

this. I figured that since we can so freely discuss Shakti and animal totems...

Why not ponder the particular thought I posted? I mean I even posted a smiley

face in the post!!!!

 

Now about the history of the bible and calling the Dead Sea scrolls and the Nag

Hammadi, etc s#it. According to historical evidence, Constantine is responsible

for the canon as it is today. He set up an organization of priests and bishops

and they picked and chose what books would fit into their bible and disposed of

the rest as they did not serve the canon for whatever reason. They were hidden

in caves and in dust, until they could be uncovered again one day. This is fact.

The truth of these texts are to be interpreted as one sees fit.

 

Now I am not theistic in any way. I love the Gnostic view even though I do not

take it literal.

 

I am offended and at a point where I want to cry. What does the Holocaust have

to do with anything? That is a horrible way to prove a point. I have been

persecuted by Christians all of my life. Called the Devil for thinking freely. I

never even offended anyone then. Simply asked questions. I may be seen as rash

with this post, but that is fine. I am not in control of anyone's perception of

me.

 

I just had to say this. This is upsetting to me and not what I came here for.

 

I don't want anyone feeling sorry for me. I am simply stating how I feel. I am

not trying to create dissent.

 

Thank you.

 

-Tiffany