About my leaving-Tiffany S

[Guest guest]

I am sorry if anyone felt responsible. I wasn't going to go anywhere, but simply

wanted to stop getting messages until my emotions settled. I have been really

ill the past few days. Pressure headaches in the front of my head, sinus issues,

and a weird case of hives spreading all over my body (Huh?). That left me an

emotional mess since being sick does not work well with me. I cry at the drop of

a hat when I am sick.

 

still sent me all the group messages regardless and when I got notice of

people losing sleep I felt really bad. I didn't know that was going to

notify everyone but I should have given him the heads up first.

 

Also to note, to me this =) is a smiley face, not a wink (To the person that

decided this meant a mockery of their faith). This is what I use as a wink

 

I know how Christians are when it comes to their faith. They are very protective

of it so in the future I will simply not comment. Even though I was simply

stating something I found thought provoking, I didn't see it in the eyes that

someone could possible be offended by it. If I was in a Christian group I never

would have posted that. I guess I thought Kundalini Christians were different,

but I guess I will treat this the same as a Christian forum from now on. Simply

keep remembering how Christians are and step carefully.

 

Anyways, I apologize and will not even comment of anything else regarding

Christian Gnosticism. Even though that is what led me back to respect Jesus and

his teachings, I will appease the masses and keep my comments to myself. I

really don't want to go through this again for something I didn't mean to do. I

don't think that way, I am not a jerk. I see no point in fighting an uphill

battle regarding faith and I learned this lesson years ago. So yeah, truly it

was not my intention to seem like I was making a mockery of anyones faith.

 

As far as those that said what I pointed out was full of s#it, I find it

strangely ironic that they are doing exactly what they are accusing me of doing.

Pointing out how the texts are FOS and mocked me by mentioning the Holocaust,

aliens and everything else.... WOW. My comment was unintentionally offensive,

but theirs weren't.

 

But hey, what can I do ya know. The splitting occurs when someone thinks their

beliefs are right, and they will do all that they accused you of doing, to prove

their point.

 

Now... if I would have said, " Hey that comment about the crucifixion was full of

s#it, Your bible is full of s#it " then you would have a right to be angry. Now

reverse that situation and see where I am coming from. This is the exact

situation.

 

Anyways, I may change my approach here, as well as my openness and honesty from

this point on. My view has changed and I don't feel the same here anymore. I do

still wish to have as a teacher so I will remain a lurker for the time

being.

 

I do appreciate everyone that has shown me love here. Thank you all for your

kind words and wisdom.

 

 

Love, butterflies, kittens and puppies to all.

 

-Tiffany S

[Guest guest]

Dear Tiffany..... I want to post again agter reading all the 145 emails... I

have returned to this post and I am sad to hear that you are sick.

 

I said last week that I thought you were a gift, I certainly have felt gifted to

have met you and to have read your posts and to have listened to your questions

and your journey.... I can't imagne that you could possibly be anything except

your own authentic self andI can't imagne how you could be here and not be so.

For you to choose to not comment on christian gnostisim or whatever would surely

be very painful for you? It would be like not being your true self.....For

myself, I can't be here if we can't speak what is in our hearts and minds,

spirits and souls. So that said I am going to say something that I hope you can

hear that it is said with respect and love.. I make this comment from my

authentic self, for not make it would be to dishonour us both....

 

I am Julia, an individual who was born into a christian family... However when

you start thinking of people as having one way of being or one way of behaving

you disregard the uniqueness of each of us... you say " I thought Kundalini

christians were different "

Tiffany that statement says more about you than it does about Christians,

Kundalini ones or not.

 

Ok you are possibly really mad at me now, or you are not?

 

Why would you want to " step carefully " .... we serve no body when we do that. I

actuallly was not angry at all and I never intended you any disrespect,and I

still don't tiffany... I hope that you can believe that and know that I love you

and have felt privilaged to have know you here. I also know that you never

intended any disrespect. I choose to know that.

Please please please, as soon as you feel well enough again or even while you

are feeling ill, please be here... perfect and authentic with all the questions

and comments you want to make.... and can I be like wise.... feelings and hurt

and pain can be resolved and sent into the ether if we wish it to be so. I would

love it if we can accept each other as we are and be part of this family in an

authentic way. Much love Julia.

 

 

 

, " angelikdementia "

<angelikdementia wrote:

>

> I am sorry if anyone felt responsible. I wasn't going to go anywhere, but

simply wanted to stop getting messages until my emotions settled. I have been

really ill the past few days. Pressure headaches in the front of my head, sinus

issues, and a weird case of hives spreading all over my body (Huh?). That left

me an emotional mess since being sick does not work well with me. I cry at the

drop of a hat when I am sick.

>

> still sent me all the group messages regardless and when I got notice of

people losing sleep I felt really bad. I didn't know that was going to

notify everyone but I should have given him the heads up first.

>

> Also to note, to me this =) is a smiley face, not a wink (To the person that

decided this meant a mockery of their faith). This is what I use as a wink

>

> I know how Christians are when it comes to their faith. They are very

protective of it so in the future I will simply not comment. Even though I was

simply stating something I found thought provoking, I didn't see it in the eyes

that someone could possible be offended by it. If I was in a Christian group I

never would have posted that. I guess I thought Kundalini Christians were

different, but I guess I will treat this the same as a Christian forum from now

on. Simply keep remembering how Christians are and step carefully.

>

> Anyways, I apologize and will not even comment of anything else regarding

Christian Gnosticism. Even though that is what led me back to respect Jesus and

his teachings, I will appease the masses and keep my comments to myself. I

really don't want to go through this again for something I didn't mean to do. I

don't think that way, I am not a jerk. I see no point in fighting an uphill

battle regarding faith and I learned this lesson years ago. So yeah, truly it

was not my intention to seem like I was making a mockery of anyones faith.

>

> As far as those that said what I pointed out was full of s#it, I find it

strangely ironic that they are doing exactly what they are accusing me of doing.

Pointing out how the texts are FOS and mocked me by mentioning the Holocaust,

aliens and everything else.... WOW. My comment was unintentionally offensive,

but theirs weren't.

>

> But hey, what can I do ya know. The splitting occurs when someone thinks their

beliefs are right, and they will do all that they accused you of doing, to prove

their point.

>

> Now... if I would have said, " Hey that comment about the crucifixion was full

of s#it, Your bible is full of s#it " then you would have a right to be angry.

Now reverse that situation and see where I am coming from. This is the exact

situation.

>

> Anyways, I may change my approach here, as well as my openness and honesty

from this point on. My view has changed and I don't feel the same here anymore.

I do still wish to have as a teacher so I will remain a lurker for the

time being.

>

> I do appreciate everyone that has shown me love here. Thank you all for your

kind words and wisdom.

>

>

> Love, butterflies, kittens and puppies to all.

>

> -Tiffany S

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Tiffany,

 

weclome back..

 

I hope you will keep commenting on whats important to you, and if its truly the

voice of your higher self and born of love and respect, not hold back for fear

of upsetting others. A committment to the truth is the only place to begin..

 

love

Bruce

 

, " angelikdementia "

<angelikdementia wrote:

>

> I am sorry if anyone felt responsible. I wasn't going to go anywhere, but

simply wanted to stop getting messages until my emotions settled. I have been

really ill the past few days. Pressure headaches in the front of my head, sinus

issues, and a weird case of hives spreading all over my body (Huh?). That left

me an emotional mess since being sick does not work well with me. I cry at the

drop of a hat when I am sick.

>

> still sent me all the group messages regardless and when I got notice of

people losing sleep I felt really bad. I didn't know that was going to

notify everyone but I should have given him the heads up first.

>

> Also to note, to me this =) is a smiley face, not a wink (To the person that

decided this meant a mockery of their faith). This is what I use as a wink

>

> I know how Christians are when it comes to their faith. They are very

protective of it so in the future I will simply not comment. Even though I was

simply stating something I found thought provoking, I didn't see it in the eyes

that someone could possible be offended by it. If I was in a Christian group I

never would have posted that. I guess I thought Kundalini Christians were

different, but I guess I will treat this the same as a Christian forum from now

on. Simply keep remembering how Christians are and step carefully.

>

> Anyways, I apologize and will not even comment of anything else regarding

Christian Gnosticism. Even though that is what led me back to respect Jesus and

his teachings, I will appease the masses and keep my comments to myself. I

really don't want to go through this again for something I didn't mean to do. I

don't think that way, I am not a jerk. I see no point in fighting an uphill

battle regarding faith and I learned this lesson years ago. So yeah, truly it

was not my intention to seem like I was making a mockery of anyones faith.

>

> As far as those that said what I pointed out was full of s#it, I find it

strangely ironic that they are doing exactly what they are accusing me of doing.

Pointing out how the texts are FOS and mocked me by mentioning the Holocaust,

aliens and everything else.... WOW. My comment was unintentionally offensive,

but theirs weren't.

>

> But hey, what can I do ya know. The splitting occurs when someone thinks their

beliefs are right, and they will do all that they accused you of doing, to prove

their point.

>

> Now... if I would have said, " Hey that comment about the crucifixion was full

of s#it, Your bible is full of s#it " then you would have a right to be angry.

Now reverse that situation and see where I am coming from. This is the exact

situation.

>

> Anyways, I may change my approach here, as well as my openness and honesty

from this point on. My view has changed and I don't feel the same here anymore.

I do still wish to have as a teacher so I will remain a lurker for the

time being.

>

> I do appreciate everyone that has shown me love here. Thank you all for your

kind words and wisdom.

>

>

> Love, butterflies, kittens and puppies to all.

>

> -Tiffany S

>

[Guest guest]

Namaste

 

dear Tiffany

 

am glad you are back. . .

 

i looked up a word because it would have your picture beside it in my

mind. . .

 

" Authenticity is a technical term in existentialist philosophy

<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Existentialism> , and is also used in the

philosophy of art <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philosophy_of_art> and

psychology <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychology> . In philosophy,

the conscious <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conscious> self

<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Self> is seen as coming to terms with

being in a material world and with encountering external forces,

pressures and influences which are very different

<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Other> from, and other

<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Other> than, itself. Authenticity is the

degree to which one is true to one's own personality, spirit, or

character, despite these pressures. "

 

this is the first word that comes to me when thinking of you and have

great respect for your ability to speak from what is true for you. .

..Tiffany i have not doubt that in the claiming of " i am that i am " is

the short-cut to I Am that I Am. . .and please take off any messages

that you have told yourself internally that you messed up or should of

been any other way. . .people hear what they want to hear, don't we

all.. . .the content of this past weeks discussion is minute, but the

ability to come back, speak your truth along with your feelings, is

huge. . .

 

honor

ordinary sparrow

 

 

, " angelikdementia "

<angelikdementia wrote:

>

> I am sorry if anyone felt responsible. I wasn't going to go anywhere,

but simply wanted to stop getting messages until my emotions settled. I

have been really ill the past few days. Pressure headaches in the front

of my head, sinus issues, and a weird case of hives spreading all over

my body (Huh?). That left me an emotional mess since being sick does not

work well with me. I cry at the drop of a hat when I am sick.

>

> still sent me all the group messages regardless and when I got

notice of people losing sleep I felt really bad. I didn't know that

Chrism was going to notify everyone but I should have given him the

heads up first.

>

> Also to note, to me this =) is a smiley face, not a wink (To the

person that decided this meant a mockery of their faith). This is what I

use as a wink

>

> I know how Christians are when it comes to their faith. They are very

protective of it so in the future I will simply not comment. Even though

I was simply stating something I found thought provoking, I didn't see

it in the eyes that someone could possible be offended by it. If I was

in a Christian group I never would have posted that. I guess I thought

Kundalini Christians were different, but I guess I will treat this the

same as a Christian forum from now on. Simply keep remembering how

Christians are and step carefully.

>

> Anyways, I apologize and will not even comment of anything else

regarding Christian Gnosticism. Even though that is what led me back to

respect Jesus and his teachings, I will appease the masses and keep my

comments to myself. I really don't want to go through this again for

something I didn't mean to do. I don't think that way, I am not a jerk.

I see no point in fighting an uphill battle regarding faith and I

learned this lesson years ago. So yeah, truly it was not my intention to

seem like I was making a mockery of anyones faith.

>

> As far as those that said what I pointed out was full of s#it, I find

it strangely ironic that they are doing exactly what they are accusing

me of doing. Pointing out how the texts are FOS and mocked me by

mentioning the Holocaust, aliens and everything else.... WOW. My comment

was unintentionally offensive, but theirs weren't.

>

> But hey, what can I do ya know. The splitting occurs when someone

thinks their beliefs are right, and they will do all that they accused

you of doing, to prove their point.

>

> Now... if I would have said, " Hey that comment about the crucifixion

was full of s#it, Your bible is full of s#it " then you would have a

right to be angry. Now reverse that situation and see where I am coming

from. This is the exact situation.

>

> Anyways, I may change my approach here, as well as my openness and

honesty from this point on. My view has changed and I don't feel the

same here anymore. I do still wish to have as a teacher so I will

remain a lurker for the time being.

>

> I do appreciate everyone that has shown me love here. Thank you all

for your kind words and wisdom.

>

>

> Love, butterflies, kittens and puppies to all.

>

> -Tiffany S

>

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Eh no worries. It was a great misunderstanding (myself being included in this)

and I know nobody really meant to do anything wrong. Perhaps this is a great

lesson for us all.... To truly listen to one another without judgement and with

intuition =)

 

I see this as a blessing. I have learned how to definitely think before every

response I give another. I had no idea that I would offend, and I am sure

everyone else felt the same. I mean, nobody is perfect right?

 

I love all of you guys and you truly are a gift for me personally. We don't live

in each others bodies, so to error is human. I take responsibility for my part

in this. Perhaps we will all take something from this. It is hard to relay what

you mean when we are dealing with such an unbiased and unemotional entity such

as text in a forum. Confusion is inevitable. That being said, lets let bygones

be bygones lol.

 

I love you all!!! Cheers!

 

-Tiffany S

 

, " jajahern " <jajahern

wrote:

>

> Dear Tiffany..... I want to post again agter reading all the 145 emails... I

hav

[Guest guest]

Welcome back Tiffany,

 It is important to note that everyones ideas should be treated with respect,

not just christians and not just hindu or any other faith in particular, but all

inclusively, even if its the polar opposite of what your personal belief is, we

should all remember just because someone has a different point of view doesnt

mean its an attack agianst your point of veiw. I like the fact that this has

always been an open space for all ways of thinking. =)  (smiley face!)

No one should have to edit their thoughts, except to make sure they are kindly

put forward and not offensive. Blessings.<3 <3 <3

 

Love and peaceful thougths

elektra x x x

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Hi Tiffany S,

 

I am a little behind on reading my posts but I have been following this thread.

I am sorry you were upset by comments made and wrong references made to your

post and others. But I must emphasise that this is NOT a Christian site, if it

was, I would not be here. We do have some strong Christian believers posting

here but they are among many other religions and non-religious views here.

 

You sound as if you have been through the wars with your health, so I will send

you some cool Kundalini Healinig when I meditate today.

 

Take care and we will hear from you again when you feel better.

 

Blessings, Skydancer x

 

, " angelikdementia "

<angelikdementia wrote:

>

> I am sorry if anyone felt responsible. I wasn't going to go anywhere, but

simply wanted to stop getting messages until my emotions settled. I have been

really ill the past few days. Pressure headaches in the front of my head, sinus

issues, and a weird case of hives spreading all over my body (Huh?). That left

me an emotional mess since being sick does not work well with me. I cry at the

drop of a hat when I am sick.

>

> still sent me all the group messages regardless and when I got notice of

people losing sleep I felt really bad. I didn't know that was going to

notify everyone but I should have given him the heads up first.

>

> Also to note, to me this =) is a smiley face, not a wink (To the person that

decided this meant a mockery of their faith). This is what I use as a wink

>

> I know how Christians are when it comes to their faith. They are very

protective of it so in the future I will simply not comment. Even though I was

simply stating something I found thought provoking, I didn't see it in the eyes

that someone could possible be offended by it. If I was in a Christian group I

never would have posted that. I guess I thought Kundalini Christians were

different, but I guess I will treat this the same as a Christian forum from now

on. Simply keep remembering how Christians are and step carefully.

>

> Anyways, I apologize and will not even comment of anything else regarding

Christian Gnosticism. Even though that is what led me back to respect Jesus and

his teachings, I will appease the masses and keep my comments to myself. I

really don't want to go through this again for something I didn't mean to do. I

don't think that way, I am not a jerk. I see no point in fighting an uphill

battle regarding faith and I learned this lesson years ago. So yeah, truly it

was not my intention to seem like I was making a mockery of anyones faith.

>

> As far as those that said what I pointed out was full of s#it, I find it

strangely ironic that they are doing exactly what they are accusing me of doing.

Pointing out how the texts are FOS and mocked me by mentioning the Holocaust,

aliens and everything else.... WOW. My comment was unintentionally offensive,

but theirs weren't.

>

> But hey, what can I do ya know. The splitting occurs when someone thinks their

beliefs are right, and they will do all that they accused you of doing, to prove

their point.

>

> Now... if I would have said, " Hey that comment about the crucifixion was full

of s#it, Your bible is full of s#it " then you would have a right to be angry.

Now reverse that situation and see where I am coming from. This is the exact

situation.

>

> Anyways, I may change my approach here, as well as my openness and honesty

from this point on. My view has changed and I don't feel the same here anymore.

I do still wish to have as a teacher so I will remain a lurker for the

time being.

>

> I do appreciate everyone that has shown me love here. Thank you all for your

kind words and wisdom.

>

>

> Love, butterflies, kittens and puppies to all.

>

> -Tiffany S

>

[Guest guest]

I am 100% with you on your post Skydancer.

 

Mike

 

On Sun, Jul 12, 2009 at 10:28 AM, Skydancer <ionaskydancerwrote:

 

>

>

> Hi Tiffany S,

>

> I am a little behind on reading my posts but I have been following this

> thread. I am sorry you were upset by comments made and wrong references made

> to your post and others. But I must emphasise that this is NOT a Christian

> site, if it was, I would not be here. We do have some strong Christian

> believers posting here but they are among many other religions and

> non-religious views here.

>

> You sound as if you have been through the wars with your health, so I will

> send you some cool Kundalini Healinig when I meditate today.

>

> Take care and we will hear from you again when you feel better.

>

> Blessings, Skydancer x

>

>

> --- In

<%40ya\

hoogroups.com>,

> " angelikdementia " <angelikdementia wrote:

> >

> > I am sorry if anyone felt responsible. I wasn't going to go anywhere, but

> simply wanted to stop getting messages until my emotions settled. I have

> been really ill the past few days. Pressure headaches in the front of my

> head, sinus issues, and a weird case of hives spreading all over my body

> (Huh?). That left me an emotional mess since being sick does not work well

> with me. I cry at the drop of a hat when I am sick.

> >

> > still sent me all the group messages regardless and when I got

> notice of people losing sleep I felt really bad. I didn't know that Chrism

> was going to notify everyone but I should have given him the heads up first.

> >

> > Also to note, to me this =) is a smiley face, not a wink (To the person

> that decided this meant a mockery of their faith). This is what I use as a

> wink

> >

> > I know how Christians are when it comes to their faith. They are very

> protective of it so in the future I will simply not comment. Even though I

> was simply stating something I found thought provoking, I didn't see it in

> the eyes that someone could possible be offended by it. If I was in a

> Christian group I never would have posted that. I guess I thought Kundalini

> Christians were different, but I guess I will treat this the same as a

> Christian forum from now on. Simply keep remembering how Christians are and

> step carefully.

> >

> > Anyways, I apologize and will not even comment of anything else regarding

> Christian Gnosticism. Even though that is what led me back to respect Jesus

> and his teachings, I will appease the masses and keep my comments to myself.

> I really don't want to go through this again for something I didn't mean to

> do. I don't think that way, I am not a jerk. I see no point in fighting an

> uphill battle regarding faith and I learned this lesson years ago. So yeah,

> truly it was not my intention to seem like I was making a mockery of anyones

> faith.

> >

> > As far as those that said what I pointed out was full of s#it, I find it

> strangely ironic that they are doing exactly what they are accusing me of

> doing. Pointing out how the texts are FOS and mocked me by mentioning the

> Holocaust, aliens and everything else.... WOW. My comment was

> unintentionally offensive, but theirs weren't.

> >

> > But hey, what can I do ya know. The splitting occurs when someone thinks

> their beliefs are right, and they will do all that they accused you of

> doing, to prove their point.

> >

> > Now... if I would have said, " Hey that comment about the crucifixion was

> full of s#it, Your bible is full of s#it " then you would have a right to be

> angry. Now reverse that situation and see where I am coming from. This is

> the exact situation.

> >

> > Anyways, I may change my approach here, as well as my openness and

> honesty from this point on. My view has changed and I don't feel the same

> here anymore. I do still wish to have as a teacher so I will remain a

> lurker for the time being.

> >

> > I do appreciate everyone that has shown me love here. Thank you all for

> your kind words and wisdom.

> >

> >

> > Love, butterflies, kittens and puppies to all.

> >

> > -Tiffany S

> >

>

>

>

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

You are correct Skydancer, this is a kundalini website made of persons of all

religions and belief systems. We all have a right to speak our truths. It just

seems to me though, that when a christian speaks their truth once in a while it

seems to rattle many people's nerves to the negative.

 

I don't feel free to share my views and I don't really feel all that welcomed

here, but I stay....I need help with this kundalini. I am seriously considering

Lurksville...I know that will make many happy.

 

Blessings to all,

Linda

 

, " Skydancer "

<ionaskydancer wrote:

>

> Hi Tiffany S,

>

> I am a little behind on reading my posts but I have been following this

thread. I am sorry you were upset by comments made and wrong references made to

your post and others. But I must emphasise that this is NOT a Christian site, if

it was, I would not be here. We do have some strong Christian believers posting

here but they are among many other religions and non-religious views here.

>

> You sound as if you have been through the wars with your health, so I will

send you some cool Kundalini Healinig when I meditate today.

>

> Take care and we will hear from you again when you feel better.

>

> Blessings, Skydancer x

[Guest guest]

Dear Linda... just saw your post now....  It has been interesting watching all

this unfold..... I learned a long time ago that we are not responsible for how

people react to what we have to say... 

Parataxic distortion happens when people over react in the present but are

actually reacting to their past experience. 

When a parataxic distortion happens in present time it offers us  opportunities

for hooking into the same old tape, the same old cycle,and  it equally offers us

the opportunity to turn off that old tape for once and for all.....

Parataxic distortions can happen to a few people at the same time...... and then

the thingy hits the fan!......

we are in control of what we do but not in control of what the other chooses to

do.  Seriously Linda what do you choose to do?

I have learned to love my parataxic distortions now... what opportunity for

change..... when I recognise them as such of course ..lol!  

Wow... I can hear the milk man...he has just delivered milk outside my door....

it is almost 3 am here and I must go and meditate before sleep....

Good nighjt Linda and much love to you from my place to yours.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

________________________________

Linda <crazycats711@ detatching from.com>

 

Monday, July 13, 2009 12:43:50 AM

Re: About my leaving-Tiffany S

 

 

 

 

 

You are correct Skydancer, this is a kundalini website made of persons of all

religions and belief systems. We all have a right to speak our truths. It just

seems to me though, that when a christian speaks their truth once in a while it

seems to rattle many people's nerves to the negative.

 

I don't feel free to share my views and I don't really feel all that welcomed

here, but I stay.....I need help with this kundalini. I am seriously considering

Lurksville.. ..I know that will make many happy.

 

Blessings to all,

Linda

 

Kundalini-Awakening -Systems- 1 , " Skydancer "

<ionaskydancer@ ...> wrote:

>

> Hi Tiffany S,

>

> I am a little behind on reading my posts but I have been following this

thread. I am sorry you were upset by comments made and wrong references made to

your post and others. But I must emphasise that this is NOT a Christian site, if

it was, I would not be here. We do have some strong Christian believers posting

here but they are among many other religions and non-religious views here.

>

> You sound as if you have been through the wars with your health, so I will

send you some cool Kundalini Healinig when I meditate today.

>

> Take care and we will hear from you again when you feel better.

>

> Blessings, Skydancer x

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

dear linda,

I personally am finding the christian view very interesting...

I live in an extremely catholic country, but religion is very empty for many

here... I have always sort of ignored religion, found it empty in it's

dogmatism, just another for of domination over the masses.. I have never

thought myself as religious..

 

now, reading your view of things, and of others that have posted from the

christian view is helping me see more and more connections, how each piece is a

part of a whole, how there are so many roads leading through various landscapes

to the same destination.. no one road is better then the other, it's the way we

walk it that matters..

and what is beautiful and so teaching about this goup is that there are so many

different languages beong mixed.. the seeming contrasts often have me feeling..

see it's exactly the same thing... like the thread on to pray or not to pray..

like the one on reincarnation..

it is not clear to me exactly how it is the same lol but deep down I know it is.

so please please dont stop posting your cristian views, they are so teaching..

and if it rattles nerves, well then maybe those nerves need to be rattled a bit?

 

I dont really feel it's about cristian or kundalin or anything.. it's about our

personal selves, digging for truth.. and whatever puzzle piece that brings us

closer to understanding is important. or at least it is to me!

 

I hope what I wrote makes sense linda...

much love,

lucia

 

, " Linda " <crazycats711

wrote:

>

> You are correct Skydancer, this is a kundalini website made of persons of all

religions and belief systems. We all have a right to speak our truths. It just

seems to me though, that when a christian speaks their truth once in a while it

seems to rattle many people's nerves to the negative.

>

> I don't feel free to share my views and I don't really feel all that welcomed

here, but I stay....I need help with this kundalini. I am seriously considering

Lurksville...I know that will make many happy.

>

> Blessings to all,

> Linda

[Guest guest]

Hi Linda,

 

As a non-Christian I can understand how people react badly to statements made by

Christians on this site. It is not your fault if people react badly as the fault

is with them. They are in charge of how they react to any comments made here.

 

Looking at it objectively it makes no sense for them (and sometimes me), to

respond in this way. I am not a Hindu, or a Buddhist either, but for some reason

the comments made in favour of those beliefs does not garner the same negative

response in me and others as pro-Christian comments do.

 

In my case and probably many others we have been bought up in Christian

households where we were ruled by the 'rod' and fed continuous messages of

damnation for any slight mistake we made. Sadly Linda, this is a universal

problem and not a problem personal to you, so please dear Kundalini sister, do

not stop posting your views because of it. That would be a loss to us as well as

you.

 

You have taught me some positive Christian messages which I would not have

received anywhere else, and for that I am truly grateful. Remember your saviour

Jesus was persecuted for his message but he did not give up and stay in lurking

mode, and neither should you.

 

Blessings, Skydancer x

 

, " Linda " <crazycats711

wrote:

>

> You are correct Skydancer, this is a kundalini website made of persons of all

religions and belief systems. We all have a right to speak our truths. It just

seems to me though, that when a christian speaks their truth once in a while it

seems to rattle many people's nerves to the negative.

>

> I don't feel free to share my views and I don't really feel all that welcomed

here, but I stay....I need help with this kundalini. I am seriously considering

Lurksville...I know that will make many happy.

>

> Blessings to all,

> Linda

[Guest guest]

HAHA that's funny because I feel the opposite. It's like when I say something

about Christianity it never seems to be taken as I mean it. Whether in this

group or elsewhere. Perhaps it has something to do with the fact that I am not a

Christian and my questions seem heretical. Who knows...

 

What can ya do? I guess it's the same on both sides of the coin.

 

Don't go to lurksville. We're all adults here, we're all human here, and from

what I am getting, we're all loving nice people. You have every right to speak

your truths. Whether it's about God, Aliens, The flying Spaghetti monster, or

how to cook an egg.

 

But like a family, some bickering is in order hehe. I'm not worried about it

anymore. Everyone apologized and as far as I am concerned that is the end of

that! =)

 

You are more than welcome here. Trust me, I felt the same when I actually spoke

loudly about how offended I was. Old me would just sit back and shrug it off and

secretly seethe just to make everyone happy. I'm pretty proud of myself because

that is new for me. Although my stomach sank at how people would have to deal

with the situation in a major forum, I stuck to myself and spoke my truth.

 

You have all the rights to do the same. IF we don't talk about it, how does it

get resolved?

 

Just my opinion.

 

Much love to you Julia!

-Tiffany S

 

 

 

, " Linda " <crazycats711

wrote:

>

> You are correct Skydancer, this is a kundalini website made of persons of all

religions and belief systems. We all have a right to speak our truths. It just

seems to me though, that when a christian speaks their truth once in a while it

seems to rattle many people's nerves to the negative.

>

> I don't feel free to share my views and I don't really feel all that welcomed

here, but I stay....I need help with this kundalini. I am seriously considering

Lurksville...I know that will make many happy.

>

> Blessings to all,

> Linda

>

> , " Skydancer "

<ionaskydancer@> wrote:

> >

> > Hi Tiffany S,

> >

> > I am a little behind on reading my posts but I have been following this

thread. I am sorry you were upset by comments made and wrong references made to

your post and others. But I must emphasise that this is NOT a Christian site, if

it was, I would not be here. We do have some strong Christian believers posting

here but they are among many other religions and non-religious views here.

> >

> > You sound as if you have been through the wars with your health, so I will

send you some cool Kundalini Healinig when I meditate today.

> >

> > Take care and we will hear from you again when you feel better.

> >

> > Blessings, Skydancer x

>

[Guest guest]

OOPs I meant that last email to you, Linda. Sorry, there are so many messages

and I have all of 5 minutes in each day to respond. But yes, you are loved here.

Sorry for writing the wrong name in the email.

 

Much love to you LINDA!!!!

 

Hehe

 

-Tiffany S

 

 

, " Linda " <crazycats711

wrote:

>

> You are correct Skydancer, this is a kundalini website made of persons of all

religions and belief systems. We all have a right to speak our truths. It just

seems to me though, that when a christian speaks their truth once in a while it

seems to rattle many people's nerves to the negative.

>

> I don't feel free to share my views and I don't really feel all that welcomed

here, but I stay....I need help with this kundalini. I am seriously considering

Lurksville...I know that will make many happy.

>

> Blessings to all,

> Linda

>

> , " Skydancer "

<ionaskydancer@> wrote:

> >

> > Hi Tiffany S,

> >

> > I am a little behind on reading my posts but I have been following this

thread. I am sorry you were upset by comments made and wrong references made to

your post and others. But I must emphasise that this is NOT a Christian site, if

it was, I would not be here. We do have some strong Christian believers posting

here but they are among many other religions and non-religious views here.

> >

> > You sound as if you have been through the wars with your health, so I will

send you some cool Kundalini Healinig when I meditate today.

> >

> > Take care and we will hear from you again when you feel better.

> >

> > Blessings, Skydancer x

>

[Guest guest]

thank you Sky for articulating it so well. I went through a major depression

when I was in 3rd grade because of this, I was told that if the bible touched

the ground I would go to hell. Well I thought well if something that small can

land me in eternal damnation, what else has the same power? Took me a really

long time to get over that.

 

and yes Linda it's great to hear of a Christian perspective that has gone way

beyond this mentality and I too enjoy your positive Christian message. much love

to you Linda!

 

craig

 

 

 

, " Skydancer "

<ionaskydancer wrote:

>

>

> In my case and probably many others we have been bought up in Christian

households where we were ruled by the 'rod' and fed continuous messages of

damnation for any slight mistake we made. Sadly Linda, this is a universal

problem and not a problem personal to you, so please dear Kundalini sister, do

not stop posting your views because of it. That would be a loss to us as well as

you.

>

> You have taught me some positive Christian messages which I would not have

received anywhere else, and for that I am truly grateful. Remember your saviour

Jesus was persecuted for his message but he did not give up and stay in lurking

mode, and neither should you.

>

> Blessings, Skydancer x

>

[Guest guest]

Hehehe..I figured that. Much LOVE back to you Tiffany.

I know what you mean by those minutes flying by. Morning catches me off guard a

lot. I think I get swished away without being aware. Then I am back in the now

and I wonder where the h*ll did that time go.

 

Linda

Crazycatlady

 

, " angelikdementia "

<angelikdementia wrote:

>

> OOPs I meant that last email to you, Linda. Sorry, there are so many messages

and I have all of 5 minutes in each day to respond. But yes, you are loved here.

Sorry for writing the wrong name in the email.

>

> Much love to you LINDA!!!!

>

> Hehe

>

> -Tiffany S