Guest guest Posted July 11, 2009 Report Share Posted July 11, 2009 Hello Kundalites out there... Guess what time it is???? No running no hiding no deleting...Hey keep that cursor away - I see you... So what do I want to talk about tonight...well last time if you remember my annoying rant I was wondering if there was another " All that Is " and I see noone jumped on that so I'm guessing I'm the only one who wonders such crazy things...I can hear you say...How can there be another " All that Is " when " All that Is " is " All that IS " hahaha Or IS IT???? (: And some buuuuwaaaahhhhh thoughts...what if to add to my randomness one day (**** no such thing as time damit!) well go with me, what if one day you (not the ego you) but YOU turn into your own " All THAT IS " and have to make universes upon universes and worlds upon worlds... can I just say I only want to make happy rocks...but if its any indication of whats inside by what I've created (or I) in this life and in this awakening....SHEESH Somebody better stop me...I have some shadows... What are your shadows??? What would you create? I really like to think it would be just jetpacks and sillystring but.... I think we would make for some freaky " twilight zone " episodes... Oh and you know another weird BUUUWAAAH thing...I keep seeing these buuwaah eyes - its me you know looking into my car rear view mirror and seeing my eyes and top of head - so I know its me but those eyes are so kinda buuwaahhh....and they are looking at me as I am looking at them and they are so intense looking - very kinda powerful - kinda scary actually - I surrender but if thats the I then again its that power I seem to be afraid of - but if I've learned anything its to surrender even in my fear - so I do - one day that fear will just vanish; but it sorta gives me the buuwaaawaaahhs Oh and here is another Deb Randomness...You know what I really don't like to see? I don't like seeing when bugs attracted to the light - go to the light and get zapped! WTH? Which leads me to my unveiling of deep fears...or fears I had and am over with (and I have land to sell you in ...ha) Before when I was a kid I use to be afraid to die...not that uncommon...but now I am not afraid to die (well I am putting in my order to just gently float out of my body and zoom around flashing your lightbulbs on my way out) you know no pain... anyway but lets get to my fear...so remember the bugs going to the light? well my fear was I would too and then again forget all of my life and people that have meaning and forget it all and just be back in a soup without any me anymore. I know the ego for sure gets in the back seat...I'm okay with that...but its the forgetting everyone and thing that happened...just like I forgot everything when I came here...I mean I remember a past life scene here and there but you know what...and remembering that past life, was that my life I was remembering or was that just part of the soup, someones life that I resonated with and claimed it for my own??? Now I know we could talk entity situations here to tell me that we retain our memories...but honestly those haven't moved on yet...could talk more entity stuff but skipping (: and even though I'm saying this I don't believe it - I mean what would be the point to always forget?? Right? But if you dig in deep to Deb - you find that little suggestion there... and when I'm in that place of peace...honestly I don't care anyway so I guess its just my ego that has this...but there you have it... Which brings me to the next point...I know you are wondering if I ever shut up .... but i really do! You ever meet someone that you feel something so strong that you know you know them but you can't remember how ... and then you talk and realize you could not have known them...and yet there is such a connection and its so very " grab you by the shirt and yell wake the hell up...you know this person " and ... its forgotten... I love when that happens and it has not happened many times in my life but still would like to remember... Do enlightened people know these things...or some things... I mean if you are enlightened and you met this person walking down the street and you felt that connection - would you remember why? I'm guessing still probably not...and I suppose you are in that enlightened stage where nothing really matters in the sense that this is all an illusion so you just accept and smile I hear what you are thinking right now...(not really ) this is the lesson surrender and accept not knowing.... The me that goes in deep does... The me that types these words does not always...ha How many bets enlightenment will be in about 2 million more lifetimes for me...hahaha Okay theres my Saturday Night Live Deep Thoughts...the randomness never ends... quick gotta go I see a bug headed for the lamp! Deb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 11, 2009 Report Share Posted July 11, 2009 hey lady : well i can not relate to all of what you are saying and if i start i will not stop in my ramblings so i will just say it is nice to know that you free associate as i do - can i say without hurting your feelings that you make me laugh with your ramblings - i do not want to allow myself to get started for i would go on and on and on - and you do such a good job of it - so keep up the flow of words - and someone will respond when the words hit a chord - i seek the joy juice you seem to be on - can you bottle it and send me some - i watched a number of roswell episodes and really enjoyed them - i saw connections to K - one in particular where the kids were told that the dreams they were having were learnings for them - just like our dream teachings - they give us ways to look at things in real life - blessings Deb- catch you tomorrow somewhere - e Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 12, 2009 Report Share Posted July 12, 2009 Hey Girly, You mean you can't relate to my rantings? No worries...neither can I! Why do you think I can't wait to jump into that silence...I'm safe from myself there (: And quite the contrary...glad to think I'm putting a smile on your face and I too love shows like Roswell...When I'm doing my thing tomorrow and focusing on the K Community and all the good for everyone here it really gives me encouragement to know you found a great job...so I'll be thinking of you tomorrow and focusing on everyone loving your ess! Oh oh I feel a ramble coming on...what if they love you soooo much you need a can of bug spray to keep them away...suppose thats not so nice - perhaps an open can of tuna will do the trick! Much love to you! Deb , " " . wrote: > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 12, 2009 Report Share Posted July 12, 2009 Dear Deb..... I love your deep thoughts.... I sooooo enjoyed reading your " all that is " deep thoughts.... you are soooo articulate in your rendomness(your word not mine lol) that you kinda worked it through! Your sat night deep thought session is my sunday morning get up late and just hang day.... so I am still in my pygamas... well I put them on to come down stairs.lol! To Saturday night live deep thoughts or not I say yes from this time zone! Re those eyes..... This time in Kundalini I have not experienced those eyes myself..looking back out at me. ... but I did experience them over 2 years ago... I would be startled by them in the car mirror too.... I think that was because all that I could see of my face were my eyes and they definitly were not ones I recognised from before...something else was present. I was freaked out at first but then when I looked furthere I could see love looking back at me too. I learned that the presence looking back at me could see me exactly as I am, and then there was no more fear for me..... I could not " pull the wool " over those eyes!!!!! lol. Soooo having forgotten about that.... I am going to check later on when I get into the car and look into the mirror....are those eyes still there? have they gone? am I just used to seeing them and have stopped being aware of them? ..........MMmmm....Maybe I integrated the message for me and integrated those eyes.... Mmmm... maybe not..... MMmmmm.... I love it...a big thank you for sharing those thoughts. Ok my time at the computer is now over for now.... I am being called here by others and needs must be met... so bye for now.... I will be back and would like to consider those bugs being zapped by the light.... Mmmmm. Lots of love to you, Julia. ________________________________ flowerpowers7777 <flowerpowers7777 Sunday, July 12, 2009 5:09:39 AM Saturday Night Live Deep Thoughts or Not Hello Kundalites out there... Guess what time it is???? No running no hiding no deleting...Hey keep that cursor away - I see you... So what do I want to talk about tonight...well last time if you remember my annoying rant I was wondering if there was another " All that Is " and I see noone jumped on that so I'm guessing I'm the only one who wonders such crazy things...I can hear you say...How can there be another " All that Is " when " All that Is " is " All that IS " hahaha Or IS IT???? (: And some buuuuwaaaahhhhh thoughts...what if to add to my randomness one day (**** no such thing as time damit!) well go with me, what if one day you (not the ego you) but YOU turn into your own " All THAT IS " and have to make universes upon universes and worlds upon worlds... can I just say I only want to make happy rocks...but if its any indication of whats inside by what I've created (or I) in this life and in this awakening... ..SHEESH Somebody better stop me...I have some shadows... What are your shadows??? What would you create? I really like to think it would be just jetpacks and sillystring but.... I think we would make for some freaky " twilight zone " episodes... Oh and you know another weird BUUUWAAAH thing...I keep seeing these buuwaah eyes - its me you know looking into my car rear view mirror and seeing my eyes and top of head - so I know its me but those eyes are so kinda buuwaahhh... .and they are looking at me as I am looking at them and they are so intense looking - very kinda powerful - kinda scary actually - I surrender but if thats the I then again its that power I seem to be afraid of - but if I've learned anything its to surrender even in my fear - so I do - one day that fear will just vanish; but it sorta gives me the buuwaaawaaahhs Oh and here is another Deb Randomness.. .You know what I really don't like to see? I don't like seeing when bugs attracted to the light - go to the light and get zapped! WTH? Which leads me to my unveiling of deep fears...or fears I had and am over with (and I have land to sell you in ...ha) Before when I was a kid I use to be afraid to die...not that uncommon...but now I am not afraid to die (well I am putting in my order to just gently float out of my body and zoom around flashing your lightbulbs on my way out) you know no pain... anyway but lets get to my fear...so remember the bugs going to the light? well my fear was I would too and then again forget all of my life and people that have meaning and forget it all and just be back in a soup without any me anymore. I know the ego for sure gets in the back seat...I'm okay with that...but its the forgetting everyone and thing that happened...just like I forgot everything when I came here...I mean I remember a past life scene here and there but you know what...and remembering that past life, was that my life I was remembering or was that just part of the soup, someones life that I resonated with and claimed it for my own??? Now I know we could talk entity situations here to tell me that we retain our memories...but honestly those haven't moved on yet...could talk more entity stuff but skipping (: and even though I'm saying this I don't believe it - I mean what would be the point to always forget?? Right? But if you dig in deep to Deb - you find that little suggestion there... and when I'm in that place of peace...honestly I don't care anyway so I guess its just my ego that has this...but there you have it... Which brings me to the next point...I know you are wondering if I ever shut up .... but i really do! You ever meet someone that you feel something so strong that you know you know them but you can't remember how ... and then you talk and realize you could not have known them...and yet there is such a connection and its so very " grab you by the shirt and yell wake the hell up...you know this person " and .... its forgotten... I love when that happens and it has not happened many times in my life but still would like to remember... Do enlightened people know these things...or some things... I mean if you are enlightened and you met this person walking down the street and you felt that connection - would you remember why? I'm guessing still probably not...and I suppose you are in that enlightened stage where nothing really matters in the sense that this is all an illusion so you just accept and smile I hear what you are thinking right now...(not really ) this is the lesson surrender and accept not knowing.... The me that goes in deep does.... The me that types these words does not always...ha How many bets enlightenment will be in about 2 million more lifetimes for me...hahaha Okay theres my Saturday Night Live Deep Thoughts...the randomness never ends... quick gotta go I see a bug headed for the lamp! Deb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 12, 2009 Report Share Posted July 12, 2009 One of your sentences pushed me to respond. The thing that made me become more disciplined in my practice, is the fear of all of this happening again, of not dying. I can't stand the constant round of events. Part of me is so sick of the happy, the sad, the reactions, the changes, the bitchiness, the intention, the fake, the hate, the stones. I'm so tired of it all. I feel like I've experienced enough. Buddha says we can stop the wheel of samsara - as far as I know, its the only way to stop it all. Then, you think, but, what about everyone else. So, then you have boddhisatvas. Enlightened beings who delay their union with all that is to help others - in their compassion. can we just leave everyone? If you become enlightened, do we just leave everyone? I feel sick at the thought, and yet, I feel sick thinking I have to be a part of all this - indefinitely. I'm tired. I've been working on detachment for some time now. Its my button. Its my call word when things get a bit too tough. Its a relief, but your words, your fear of not dying, I felt part of my shell crack. 2009/7/12 flowerpowers7777 <flowerpowers7777 > > > > Hello Kundalites out there... > > Guess what time it is???? > No running no hiding no deleting...Hey keep that cursor away - I see you... > > So what do I want to talk about tonight...well last time if you remember my > annoying rant I was wondering if there was another " All that Is " and I see > noone jumped on that so I'm guessing I'm the only one who wonders such crazy > things...I can hear you say...How can there be another " All that Is " when > " All that Is " is " All that IS " hahaha > Or IS IT???? (: > > And some buuuuwaaaahhhhh thoughts...what if to add to my randomness one day > (**** no such thing as time damit!) > well go with me, what if one day you (not the ego you) but YOU turn into > your own " All THAT IS " and have to make universes upon universes and worlds > upon worlds... > > can I just say I only want to make happy rocks...but if its any indication > of whats inside by what I've created (or I) in this life and in this > awakening....SHEESH Somebody better stop me...I have some shadows... > What are your shadows??? > What would you create? > I really like to think it would be just jetpacks and sillystring but.... > I think we would make for some freaky " twilight zone " episodes... > > Oh and you know another weird BUUUWAAAH thing...I keep seeing these buuwaah > eyes - its me you know looking into my car rear view mirror and seeing my > eyes and top of head - so I know its me but those eyes are so kinda > buuwaahhh....and they are looking at me as I am looking at them and they are > so intense looking - very kinda powerful - kinda scary actually - I > surrender but if thats the I then again its that power I seem to be afraid > of - but if I've learned anything its to surrender even in my fear - so I do > - one day that fear will just vanish; but it sorta gives me the > buuwaaawaaahhs > > Oh and here is another Deb Randomness...You know what I really don't like > to see? I don't like seeing when bugs attracted to the light - go to the > light and get zapped! WTH? Which leads me to my unveiling of deep fears...or > fears I had and am over with (and I have land to sell you in ...ha) > Before when I was a kid I use to be afraid to die...not that uncommon...but > now I am not afraid to die (well I am putting in my order to just gently > float out of my body and zoom around flashing your lightbulbs on my way out) > you know no pain... > > anyway but lets get to my fear...so remember the bugs going to the light? > well my fear was I would too and then again forget all of my life and people > that have meaning and forget it all and just be back in a soup without any > me anymore. I know the ego for sure gets in the back seat...I'm okay with > that...but its the forgetting everyone and thing that happened...just like I > forgot everything when I came here...I mean I remember a past life scene > here and there but you know what...and remembering that past life, was that > my life I was remembering or was that just part of the soup, someones life > that I resonated with and claimed it for my own??? > > Now I know we could talk entity situations here to tell me that we retain > our memories...but honestly those haven't moved on yet...could talk more > entity stuff but skipping (: > > and even though I'm saying this I don't believe it - I mean what would be > the point to always forget?? Right? But if you dig in deep to Deb - you find > that little suggestion there... > > and when I'm in that place of peace...honestly I don't care anyway so I > guess its just my ego that has this...but there you have it... > > Which brings me to the next point...I know you are wondering if I ever shut > up ... but i really do! > > You ever meet someone that you feel something so strong that you know you > know them but you can't remember how ... and then you talk and realize you > could not have known them...and yet there is such a connection and its so > very " grab you by the shirt and yell wake the hell up...you know this > person " and ... its forgotten... > > I love when that happens and it has not happened many times in my life but > still would like to remember... > > Do enlightened people know these things...or some things... > > I mean if you are enlightened and you met this person walking down the > street and you felt that connection - would you remember why? > I'm guessing still probably not...and I suppose you are in that enlightened > stage where nothing really matters in the sense that this is all an illusion > so you just accept and smile > > I hear what you are thinking right now...(not really ) this is the lesson > surrender and accept not knowing.... > > The me that goes in deep does... > > The me that types these words does not always...ha > > How many bets enlightenment will be in about 2 million more lifetimes for > me...hahaha > > Okay theres my Saturday Night Live Deep Thoughts...the randomness never > ends... quick gotta go I see a bug headed for the lamp! > > Deb > > > -- Tiffany Jones Patheya Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 12, 2009 Report Share Posted July 12, 2009 Dear Deb and everyone.... I can only stay again for a short time.... so much for Sunday hang out time.... not happening today! I find it difficult to understand how we can forget everything from a past life and we are to have learned from living that past life.... I am puzzeled too as to why we would agree with others before we are born to behave in particular ways so as to give them and us the experience needed, and yet to remember none of that, .....I am not saying that it is not so... maybe it is because I was not reared in that thought system, or belief system tht I am ignorant of how it could be so. I have read some about it and I have experienced things that could be of past lives. I think I am more inclined to think that these expeeriences are of a collective consiousness... we are part of the all, part of the one, the one body... I guess I am saying that as we are one.... the all,,,, the one body ..... that we know.... of things.... that our brains find difficult to process in linear time???...yikes that is also puzzeling! I have said this before in a previous post.... I think?... I believe?.... I know.?...I assume..? I project..? ect.. that we have only one experience in this mortal body....we are spiritual beings within a human body... we are born into a particular culture, particular country, particular circumstances and we have absolute freedon of will and freedom of choice as to how we will be while we walk this earth.... I think?... I believe.?.... I know...? I assume..?... I project..?..ect..that there is life after mortal earth and how we experience the next stage of our existance will be is influenced by how we live while are here on earth..... Seeing the light....Enlightenment is for all.... a rare few begin and finish that here in their mortal bodies. Most humans begin it here and probably do not become enlightened on this earth. Moments of knowing and moments of enlightenment are revealed to us all during our lives....... I have not been able to hold those revelations for long.... I remember 2 years ago when I went to my experience of the void, and then living my life in absolute bliss and esctacy for some time.....I was unable to continue to live my life like that... to hold that.....I definitly was not enlightened either. I remember also in my experience of the void..experiencing absolute nothingness / void / vacum... words are hard here..If I say aloneness I do not mean in an emotional way lonliness... aloneness in that I alone existed.. I was. I hope this won't sound compleatly off the rails... yea it probably will.... but that was the experience before God created the world. But God did create the world and we are all connected .... we all know ..... ( yikes I am actually going to make a definite, this is what I think statement!! ) we will not in the next life experience forget, what we actually all ready know of here, we will remember what we have forgotten of what we knew before we came here..... we return home to our God, our master and creator. Ok... that could read like nonsence and I have gone way off here with randomness but let it be so... Deb and everyone... needs must be met here again so I will finish now....love and deep thoughts back at ya.. much love Julia. ________________________________ flowerpowers7777 <flowerpowers7777 Sunday, July 12, 2009 5:09:39 AM Saturday Night Live Deep Thoughts or Not .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 12, 2009 Report Share Posted July 12, 2009 Hi Julia, Thank you for describing your eyes also. I like what you said about theres no pulling the wool over those eyes! hahaha I know!! Right?!?! And Julia what you wrote about the void and experiencing your bliss and how you could not hold it...Loved that! How does one function in society like that and what then is enlightenment? Oh you gotta read what Skoogle just wrote too! The experience before God created the worlds or the unmanifested...very cool Julia!!! The thing is it seems such a short existence this life to base how or experience will be after this life if in that after there is no time, I mean to some extent but really this life seems so short here - I don't know what I'm trying to say other than ... is there really judgement other than our own, is there any individuality left? Well thanks our beautiful hearted friend - enjoy your Sunday - live right? (: Deb , Julia Ahern <jajahern wrote: > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 12, 2009 Report Share Posted July 12, 2009 Dear Tiffany, Thank you for your honesty - I too have had that feeling...I don't want to get thrown back on the wheel here again...the feeling I have had was shoot I want to do this right so I can pick a happier place to go to...cuz I'm not coming back here - or should I say I don't want to come back here - why its beautiful and everything - well think I'll meander if I can to the happy rock instead! haha And while I'm laughing - really I'm not...but then again that leads me back to is there any individuality? is the me the you left at all when we get to that level in our evolution so to say? Reading Skoggles writing I am wondering this even more? And it feels good to hear that I am not the only one with those thoughts - Much Love to you too Tiffany!! Hope your Sunday is crazy beautiful!!! If you get thrown off the wheel as you are flying in the air - grab me, will ya? ha Deb , Tiffany Jones <Tiffany wrote: > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 12, 2009 Report Share Posted July 12, 2009 Hi Deb, I'm laughing a bit now, so thanks for that. Earlier this year, I read something that helped me change my perspective. And that was, be grateful for all the things you don't like and don't want. Because they help you to know what you do like and you do want. A simple example is a mother yelling at her child. I see it, and I know I don't want that. It helps me to see that very clearly. the problem comes in, when we start to judge the other one. that's not what I'm talking about here. I just mean - looking at orange juice or apple juice and knowing you don't want orange. Knowing you want apple. But we don't hate or judge the orange, for being orange. And that has helped me easy my pain. Its helped me ease my every day of existence. That its not my responsibility. (Big ego this one!!) It feels like creation. I feel like we are creation. Every moment we choose. Make choices - until we are so far ONE - that we are - and then, its not a choice any more - it just is - it just is - it is... like Skoggles. Love Deb! 2009/7/12 flowerpowers7777 <flowerpowers7777 > > > Dear Tiffany, > > Thank you for your honesty - I too have had that feeling...I don't want to > get thrown back on the wheel here again...the feeling I have had was shoot I > want to do this right so I can pick a happier place to go to...cuz I'm not > coming back here - or should I say I don't want to come back here - why its > beautiful and everything - well think I'll meander if I can to the happy > rock instead! haha And while I'm laughing - really I'm not...but then again > that leads me back to is there any individuality? is the me the you left at > all when we get to that level in our evolution so to say? > Reading Skoggles writing I am wondering this even more? > And it feels good to hear that I am not the only one with those thoughts - > Much Love to you too Tiffany!! > Hope your Sunday is crazy beautiful!!! If you get thrown off the wheel as > you are flying in the air - grab me, will ya? ha > Deb > > --[image: Groups]</;_ylc=X3oDMTJlcmgxdmQ1BF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAz\ E1MTA3MTIzBGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTA3NjQ3OQRzZWMDZnRyBHNsawNnZnAEc3RpbWUDMTI0NzQxMzQwOA\ --> > Change settings via the Web</join;_ylc=X3oDMT\ JnaGpoMjY4BF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzE1MTA3MTIzBGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTA3NjQ3OQRzZWMDZn\ RyBHNsawNzdG5ncwRzdGltZQMxMjQ3NDEzNDA4>( ID required) > Change settings via email: Switch delivery to Daily Digest<-digest ?subject=Email+Delive\ ry:+Digest>| Switch > format to Traditional<-traditional ?subject=Ch\ ange+Delivery+Format:+Traditional> > Visit Your Group > <;_ylc=X3oDMTJlaXQ2ZH\ F0BF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzE1MTA3MTIzBGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTA3NjQ3OQRzZWMDZnRyBHNsaw\ NocGYEc3RpbWUDMTI0NzQxMzQwOA-->| > Groups Terms of Use <> | Un > <- ?subject=> > Recent Activity > > - 9 > New Members</members;_ylc\ =X3oDMTJnNzNoYThzBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzE1MTA3MTIzBGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTA3NjQ3OQR\ zZWMDdnRsBHNsawN2bWJycwRzdGltZQMxMjQ3NDEzNDA3> > - 19 > New Photos</spnew;_ylc=X3\ oDMTJndHQzajZnBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzE1MTA3MTIzBGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTA3NjQ3OQRzZW\ MDdnRsBHNsawN2cGhvdARzdGltZQMxMjQ3NDEzNDA3> > > Visit Your Group > <;_ylc=X3oDMTJmaWdxZG\ RzBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzE1MTA3MTIzBGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTA3NjQ3OQRzZWMDdnRsBHNsaw\ N2Z2hwBHN0aW1lAzEyNDc0MTM0MDc-> > Give Back > > for Good<http://us.lrd./_ylc=X3oDMTJubG83Z29yBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BF9wAzEEZ3JwSW\ QDMTUxMDcxMjMEZ3Jwc3BJZAMxNzA1MDc2NDc5BHNlYwNuY21vZARzbGsDYnJhbmQEc3RpbWUDMTI0Nz\ QxMzQwNw--;_ylg=1/SIG=11314uv3k/**http%3A//brand./forgood> > > Get inspired > > by a good cause. > Y! Toolbar > > Get it Free!<http://us.lrd./_ylc=X3oDMTJwb2RyZ3U0BF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BF9wAzIEZ3JwS\ WQDMTUxMDcxMjMEZ3Jwc3BJZAMxNzA1MDc2NDc5BHNlYwNuY21vZARzbGsDdG9vbGJhcgRzdGltZQMxM\ jQ3NDEzNDA3;_ylg=1/SIG=11c6dvmk9/**http%3A//toolbar./%3F.cpdl=ygrps> > > easy 1-click access > > to your groups. > > > Start a group</start;_ylc=X3oDMTJwOGRkM3JyBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BF9wAzM\ EZ3JwSWQDMTUxMDcxMjMEZ3Jwc3BJZAMxNzA1MDc2NDc5BHNlYwNuY21vZARzbGsDZ3JvdXBzMgRzdGl\ tZQMxMjQ3NDEzNDA3> > > in 3 easy steps. > > Connect with others. > . > > > -- Tiffany Jones Patheya Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 12, 2009 Report Share Posted July 12, 2009 Tiffany, You put this so well - thats why I try just to laugh because honestly what else can we do - well we could mope but that doesnt seem to help any! And what you wrote about it not being our responsiblity - that feels so good - feels so freeing - and Tiff...don't you love feeling free - like when a dog puts its head out the window and lets the wind blow in its face - free like that (but I'm not sitting behind that dog - why am i thinking of dog slobber slobbering me in the face?) shoot more randomness coming on (although I'd gladly get slobber if I had to sit there while you grab me off the wheel! ha) - better go!!- ha Thank you Tiff!!!!!!!!! much love to you girl! Deb , Tiffany Jones <Tiffany wrote: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 12, 2009 Report Share Posted July 12, 2009 Julia, Just some quick comments on the past life questions. From what I understand, to remember the past lives would interfere with the experience that we chose this time. So the veil of forgetting is placed upon us. But we do carry forward what we learned, it is embedded so we don't need to consciously remember. Like walking, you don't think about walking. And to be placed in others paths in this life and vice-versa, and then to forget the reason why...without the " confusion " our learning experience would be stifled... limited. If we were always told by our parents what to do we wouldn't learn. We would always be looking outward for guidance. So we are allowed to make our mistakes in our confusion, and to keep moving forward. Sometimes with one step back, and then two steps forward. In one of my healing sessions, " intolerance of intolerance " came up for me. It gave me a good laugh. But sometimes I would get frustrated by the ignorance of some and not appreciate their perspective. I have come to an understanding that they perhaps have not experienced what I have (a variety of past lives; and hence many experiences), and therefore do not understand. They have yet to chose that path of experience. That perspective has given me more tolerance and patience for others. The negativity provides an experience, has a purpose. I remember that the little girl in yesterday's u-tube link chose her life, chose to be there. Not to say that we don't share our love with her. Carla 2009/7/12 Julia Ahern <jajahern > > > Dear Deb and everyone.... I can only stay again for a short time.... so > much for Sunday hang out time.... not happening today! > > I find it difficult to understand how we can forget everything from a past > life and we are to have learned from living that past life.... I > am puzzeled too as to why we would agree with others before we are born to > behave in particular ways so as to give them and us the experience needed, > and yet to remember none of that, .....I am not saying that it is not so... > maybe it is because I was not reared in that thought system, or belief > system tht I am ignorant of how it could be so. > > I have read some about it and I have experienced things that could be of > past lives. I think I am more inclined to think that these expeeriences are > of a collective consious > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 12, 2009 Report Share Posted July 12, 2009 Hi again Deb.... At last..... I can stay here for a while.... What a hectic busy busy day.... Hard to stay in the now at times. anyways..... i agree absolutly, life is so short here! You asked if there is really judgement other than our own, is there any individuality left? I would love to know for sure the answer to that..... As a christian I was taught many things about judgement and the final judgement of God. What to believe? What to know?..... one thing I am very certain of is... that many of the ways in which I was taught, and many of things. and the " truths " I was taught actually reflected the knowing of the teacher... do you know what I mean? sometimes I find it very hard to find the words to express what I want to say! Anyways I can say a bit about what I think might be the story of when we die and it reflects my own interpretations and life experiences and struggles and I am not claiming anything more than that.....and I do this tentatively.... as I am not sure at this point of exactly what I am about to write!!! Ok... if I am a christian... and I would state that I am... with a catholic upbringing..... I do not believe in reincarnation. (that does not mean that I do not explore the possibilities of it or that I do not want to understand how others view re incarnation) I have heard lots and lots and lots about judgement Deb, really scarey stuff.... however I choose to listen to those that speak about mercy rather than judgement. Words again might fail me here! Judgement is a very different thing to mercy... and I think along the way from ancient scripts to recent times maybe the word mercy got lost in translation ? I have experienced mercy in this Kundalini awakening and it is so real. So I do believe that their is mercy once we leave our mortal bodies.... I think we see the light and we ourselves thenl " know " and judge ourselves.... however God in his mercy will not be as hard on us as we would be to ourselves. In his mercy I do trust. (the keys on this NEW lap top are now going ga ga too .....and the type takes ages to appear on the screen, just like my old computer?????? what is that about??) I believe we are one, but I really do not believe that we all merge into one consiousness... well I do, sort of.... ( this is where I struggle with the words consciousness, unity, union, one ect )I believe we all have a unity that can be difficult to experience in this mortal body.... when we die and leave our bodies I think we will experience a tremendous sence of unity with God, but I thinkthat we retaian our own personhood. I think we become like on to God and therefore we too will be united with everyone else... yet totally distinct.... and I really do believe we will be totally distinct, and retain our own personhood. I think this is the christian view? I do not think that we will merge into a consciousness that is God. God is God and I am that I am... I have experienced myself as being loved by God at the depth of my being....I am not that which has loved me to the depths of my being. I still find it difficult to face the truth though and recognise that I am often outside of his will and I do not aline my life to God. I have also experienced his mercy and his compassion at all my confusion.... so I think...actually I believe that soup we are not. Dear deb, I hope that did not sound like a crock of sh7t..... words are weird and wonderful and the same word can mean so many things!! I am not going to re read this or I probably would not post so here we go... with much love Julia. ________________________________ flowerpowers7777 <flowerpowers7777 Sunday, July 12, 2009 4:34:09 PM Re: Saturday Night Live Deep Thoughts or Not .........The thing is it seems such a short existence this life to base how or experience will be after this life if in that after there is no time, I mean to some extent but really this life seems so short here - I don't know what I'm trying to say other than .... is there really judgement other than our own, is there any individuality left? Well thanks our beautiful hearted friend - enjoy your Sunday - live right? (: Deb Kundalini-Awakening -Systems- 1 , Julia Ahern <jajahern@.. .> wrote: > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 12, 2009 Report Share Posted July 12, 2009 Dear carla, thank you for taking the time to explain.... It does make sense, what you say about a veil of forgetting being placed upon us.... I think I believe that also but from a different perspective. I am stuck in the bit about the little girl choosing her life though....( I am full of contradictions because I knew my 5th child was waiting to be born through me, I had a v ery clear vision of it !) Anyway to get back to my difficulty/ confusion about the little girl choosing her life.... I have heard people let perpurtrators off the hook by saying so and so agreed to that before life therefore the perpertrator is only performing a requested action. Have I just listened to people who are not expressing the correct thinking or perspective? I would really like if you could say a bit more so that I could understand the perspective of a person who believes in past lives on this earth.... if you do not choose to reply further Carla that is ok too... I can do some further research and see will my own understanding change. Much thanks for your reply.Love Julia. PS.... where did this purple ink colour come from!!! ________________________________ Carla & Patrick <bowenhealth Sunday, July 12, 2009 5:26:26 PM Re: Saturday Night Live Deep Thoughts or Not Julia, Just some quick comments on the past life questions. From what I understand, to remember the past lives would interfere with the experience that we chose this time. So the veil of forgetting is placed upon us. But we do carry forward what we learned, it is embedded so we don't need to consciously remember. Like walking, you don't think about walking. And to be placed in others paths in this life and vice-versa, and then to forget the reason why...without the " confusion " our learning experience would be stifled... limited. If we were always told by our parents what to do we wouldn't learn. We would always be looking outward for guidance. So we are allowed to make our mistakes in our confusion, and to keep moving forward. Sometimes with one step back, and then two steps forward. In one of my healing sessions, " intolerance of intolerance " came up for me. It gave me a good laugh. But sometimes I would get frustrated by the ignorance of some and not appreciate their perspective. I have come to an understanding that they perhaps have not experienced what I have (a variety of past lives; and hence many experiences) , and therefore do not understand. They have yet to chose that path of experience. That perspective has given me more tolerance and patience for others. The negativity provides an experience, has a purpose. I remember that the little girl in yesterday's u-tube link chose her life, chose to be there. Not to say that we don't share our love with her. Carla 2009/7/12 Julia Ahern <jajahern > > > > Dear Deb and everyone.... I can only stay again for a short time.... so > much for Sunday hang out time.... not happening today! > > I find it difficult to understand how we can forget everything from a past > life and we are to have learned from living that past life.... I > am puzzeled too as to why we would agree with others before we are born to > behave in particular ways so as to give them and us the experience needed, > and yet to remember none of that, .....I am not saying that it is not so... > maybe it is because I was not reared in that thought system, or belief > system tht I am ignorant of how it could be so. > > I have read some about it and I have experienced things that could be of > past lives. I think I am more inclined to think that these expeeriences are > of a collective consious > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 13, 2009 Report Share Posted July 13, 2009 thank you for this saturday night live thoughts... it is touching chords I didn't even know I had.. julia, thank you for posting this. lucia , Julia Ahern <jajahern wrote: > I think we become like on to God and therefore we too will be united with everyone else... yet totally distinct.... and I really do believe we will be totally distinct, and retain our own personhood. I think this is the christian view? > I do not think that we will merge into a consciousness that is God. God is God and I am that I am... I have experienced myself as being loved by God at the depth of my being....I am not that which has loved me to the depths of my being. I still find it difficult to face the truth though and recognise that I am often outside of his will and I do not aline my life to God. I have also experienced his mercy and his compassion at all my confusion.... so I think...actually I believe that soup we are not. Dear deb, I hope that did not sound like a crock of sh7t..... words are weird and wonderful and the same word can mean so many things!! > I am not going to re read this or I probably would not post so here we go... with much love Julia. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 13, 2009 Report Share Posted July 13, 2009 Oh darn, I have eight minutes to get dressed for work and make my lunch, I can't really reply right now, except to say, no one gets " off the hook " Paramahansa Yagananda, author of " Autobiography of a Yogi " wrote a phrase that stuck with me... " Karma works with mathematical precision " Bye for now, Carla 2009/7/12 Julia Ahern <jajahern > > > Dear carla, thank you for taking the time to explain.... It does make > sense, what you say about a veil of forgetting being placed upon us.... I > think I believe that also but from a different perspective. > I am stuck in > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 18, 2009 Report Share Posted July 18, 2009 Hi Julia, Sorry for the late reply, it was a busy week. Sometimes it's all I can do to just keep up with reading the emails. But I enjoy everyone's contributions so I make it a priority. Anyways, regarding choosing your life, your question was.. " I have heard people let perpetrators off the hook by saying so and so agreed to that before life therefore the perpetrator is only performing a requested action. " I have thought many times about this perspective, about how we chose all this and how best to react to others experiences. My conclusion thus far is to respond with love and compassion. I do believe that we choose our experiences to fulfill a desired lesson. It may not feel joyful, but when we have greater perspective it all makes sense. It is positive. However, I do not go into a place of coldness for anyone experiencing pain because of this belief of choosing. I know I chose a painful lesson with my abusive ex-husband, but it was love and compassion from others that helped me to heal. It was a lesson I did not learn in a previous life with him, to value myself enough to leave the situation. I got it right this time around. Knowing how important the love and compassion was during that painful time, I will share that with others as well. Belief in the choosing perspective does not mean that I have stopped caring for others while in their experience. But it does help me be strong and centered so I am able to assist, if called upon to do so. Just my perspective, my truth, for this moment. Blessings, Carla 2009/7/12 Julia Ahern <jajahern > > > Dear carla, thank you for taking the time to explain.... It does make > sense, what you say about a veil of forgetting being placed upon us.... I > think I believe that also but from a different perspective. > I am stuck in the bit about the little girl choosing her life though....( I > am full of contradictions because I knew my 5th child was waiting to be born > through me, I had a v ery clear vision of it !) Anyway to get back to my > difficulty/ confusion about the little girl choosing her life.... I have > heard people let perpurtrators off the hook by saying so and so agreed to > that before life therefore the perpertrator is only performing a requested > action. Have I just listened to people who are not expressing the correct > thinking or perspective? I would really like if you could say a bit more so > that I could understand the perspective of a person who believes in past > lives on this earth.... if you do not choose to reply further Carla that is > ok too... I can do some further research and see will my own understanding > change. Much thanks for your reply.Love Julia. > PS.... where did this purple ink colour come from!!! > > ________________________________ > Carla & Patrick <bowenhealth <bowenhealth%40gmail.com>> > > To: <%40ya\ hoogroups.com> > Sunday, July 12, 2009 5:26:26 PM > Re: Saturday Night Live Deep > Thoughts or Not > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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