Guest guest Posted July 13, 2009 Report Share Posted July 13, 2009 I love and care about all of you, but I really need to go away, at least for a while. I am seeing things wrong and way too emotional right now. One thing I have learned about myself today is that I don't mind learning the ways of other religions, but if they are not compatible with christianity I cannot except them. If kundalini is not compatible with christianity, then I do not want it either. I cannot compromise my relationship with Christ Jesus and the Holy Spirit that is within me for anything. If kundalini is meant to be for me it will happen rather I am here ot not. All of these different beliefs and principles all seem as paradoxes that get you nowhere, but only causes pain and confusion. It is beginning to all be as totaly nonsense to me, like disecting a bug under an microscope. I feel to scattered and not on a good foundation. I need to separate, at least for a while. Love & light, Linda Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 13, 2009 Report Share Posted July 13, 2009 WOW- i guess have not been paying attention here - i have not been reading all the posts but i see discussions of religious topics as well as others - i do not take anyone too seriously of late - each person has their own agenda unless of course they are truly surrendering to Shakti or their idea of god- of course you can speak your mind - always and what a wonderful mind it is - i have told you over and over that what you have to say is just as important as anyone else- i know you are a christian thru and thru and that is fine i do not have to buy into all you believe nor do you have to buy into all i believe - the thing that sets us apart Linda is that we are k active - we are an unique group of folks in this crazy screwed up world that has us under the thumbs of the believe this or parish view - the aquarium of life is large - there are many paths there are many beliefs but they all go back to the source - the universal consciousness - Kundalini Shakti - the Holy Spirit - the dumo fire - the serpent fire - it is all the same - different names for the same thing - it is easy to walk away - it is hard to stay and state your views - you are not one to back down linda - so WHAT IS GOING ON HERE?? tolerance forgiveness and gratitude we have talked of this often - now would be a good time to practice these - i need you my friend to keep me on track - you offer a good down to earth practical view on things when i get off on a tangent - but if you feel you have to take a break then do it - you have come so far since i met you - you have been thru alot and have survived - you have learned much and shared much and given so much to many - that is all good linda - all good - take a deep breathe think of whoever pushed your buttons and realize they are just voicing their opinion - it is theirs it may not agree with you and it may not be right but it is theirs and you have the freedom to disagree - if i were with you i would shake the heck out of you - stand up lady and do your thang - that texas bigger than life thang- i love you Linda ...always in all ways ... e Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 13, 2009 Report Share Posted July 13, 2009 hi linda i love and care about you. I have been at the point you are feeling now, and really it is not the time to be alone. Your labels are dropping, who you concidered yourself to be is disolving as you are on the threashold experiencing oneness. it is a scary view, if you resist but if you can surrender into the ego dissolution , it truely is as radiant as it can be described. I find that mine is gradually being nibbled at rather than gobbled up whole. I believe this is what you are going through. Who you thought you were is gradually being stripped away, the community of friends and family you had before , you no longer resonate with in the same way. You can't talk to them. this part is the hardest point and you will demonise me for telling it,but if you surrender you will see it as it is offered ,it's a hand and a stepping stone to a friend. here goes as im feeling it , there comes the time when your own personal view of god is challenged. but if you can face this and look at your view of god and realise that god as you know him is your own creation.( i am not saying that god does not exist) I am saying that to go deeper into the path and to actually become at one with god , we have to drop our own projections of what we think god is as god is beyond time , space and whatever idea's we could ever dream up that god is.If we don't disolve this we become blocked and unable to realise true oneness with god. Imagine feeling yourself disolved straight into god with no separation . now that's amazing , and that what is waiting in store for you , when you are ready much love , respect and i sure hope you stay as i want to hear your stories about what happens next! purple , " Linda " <crazycats711 wrote: > > I love and care about all of you, but I really need to go away, at least for a while. I am seeing things wrong and way too emotional right now. One thing I have learned about myself today is that I don't mind learning the ways of other religions, but if they are not compatible with christianity I cannot except them. If kundalini is not compatible with christianity, then I do not want it either. I cannot compromise my relationship with Christ Jesus and the Holy Spirit that is within me for anything. If kundalini is meant to be for me it will happen rather I am here ot not. > > All of these different beliefs and principles all seem as paradoxes that get you nowhere, but only causes pain and confusion. It is beginning to all be as totaly nonsense to me, like disecting a bug under an microscope. I feel to scattered and not on a good foundation. I need to separate, at least for a while. > > Love & light, > Linda > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 13, 2009 Report Share Posted July 13, 2009 Linda, I understand your need to seperate for a while. I just joined this group and I'm still finding my way through it. I don't know if you read my story, but this awakening happened to me spontaneously while I was in India and I am Christian. At first it was wonderful and loving and I thought I was truly blessed by God....then I started to see things in a different light and it contradicted my original views (Christian) so I started to " freak out " . After arriving home I read my bible and did more studying about my own religion among other religions and I found them all quite similar. After joining this group and reading more on other sites, I realized I am Blessed, not cursed...why else would God do this to me? It's all a learning process for myself. My belief is that Kundalini is the Holy Spirit, it has a different name for different religions, for different people with different backgrounds and all is respected by me. Sorry to ramble about myself, but I just wanted to share with you an opinion. Look deeply into Christianity, and follow what Jesus was telling us. I think you will find what you are looking for. God Bless, I hope to see you around again. Laura , " Linda " <crazycats711 wrote: > > I love and care about all of you, but I really need to go away, at least for a while. I am seeing things wrong and way too emotional right now. One thing I have learned about myself today is that I don't mind learning the ways of other religions, but if they are not compatible with christianity I cannot except them. If kundalini is not compatible with christianity, then I do not want it either. I cannot compromise my relationship with Christ Jesus and the Holy Spirit that is within me for anything. If kundalini is meant to be for me it will happen rather I am here ot not. > > All of these different beliefs and principles all seem as paradoxes that get you nowhere, but only causes pain and confusion. It is beginning to all be as totaly nonsense to me, like disecting a bug under an microscope. I feel to scattered and not on a good foundation. I need to separate, at least for a while. > > Love & light, > Linda > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 13, 2009 Report Share Posted July 13, 2009 Dear Linda, As you know, my faith and conviction is Jesus-based Christianity. What has changed for me since kundalini awakening is openness to other's views, and how they found their God. I do believe in " one God, one love. " As I have stated, Jesus was the way that God introduced Himself to me. And they are now ONE, no separateness, Father, Son and H.S. Kundalini, for me, is just God's way of revealing more about Himself to me. He has given me a recipe to follow; and an awakening of my body as a Temple. I truly believe the spine is an antannea to God, tune in or tune out. I truly believe the chakras work in accordance with mind and body. What we think, what we eat, how we treat people, all these things are involved in the healthy spinning of each area. God meant us to enjoy life. God meant us to love each other, even as we love ourselves. Can I turn my back on myself? Can I shut myself away from myself? No more than I could shut myself away from any other human whose motives are aligned with mine. God did give me a gift of discernment. And as Electra said, " if you have a bad feeling about something or someone, " run " ......Jesus is my way to God. But today, I am open to other's finding their own way to God. Perhaps I am wrong. This has just been my evolution; and it is resonating with me........ You are loved here. You are valued for your insight and loving attitude, and sense of humor. Whether you stay or go or lurk is your choice. Nothing has changed when everything has changed. That seems to be the theme of my life lately. Personally, I do not pray for others. I pray the Lord's prayer as my only prayer. What I do is silently and aloud commune with God most of the day. Talk to Him as a Father, a friend, a husband. For He is everything to me. Go or stay in peace. It is your choice. I honor and respect any decisions you make for yourself. Julie --- On Mon, 7/13/09, Linda <crazycats711 wrote: Linda <crazycats711 Sorry Monday, July 13, 2009, 1:26 AM I love and care about all of you, but I really need to go away, at least for a while. I am seeing things wrong and way too emotional right now. One thing I have learned about myself today is that I don't mind learning the ways of other religions, but if they are not compatible with christianity I cannot except them. If kundalini is not compatible with christianity, then I do not want it either. I cannot compromise my relationship with Christ Jesus and the Holy Spirit that is within me for anything. If kundalini is meant to be for me it will happen rather I am here ot not. All of these different beliefs and principles all seem as paradoxes that get you nowhere, but only causes pain and confusion. It is beginning to all be as totaly nonsense to me, like disecting a bug under an microscope. I feel to scattered and not on a good foundation. I need to separate, at least for a while. Love & light, Linda Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 13, 2009 Report Share Posted July 13, 2009 I understand. Personally I am not a Christian anymore, but when I was I totally understand where you are coming from. It's scary and you are afraid of going to hell for not following the exact rules that you believe in. Totally understood and respected on my behalf. I left Christianity during a near death experience, but I still love the concept of Christ and his love. I know it is scary to open yourself to other beliefs, or at least open yourself from a Christian perspective. My grandpa was a pastor lol so I know what I am talking about. It took years to get to where I am now. I wish you the best on your journey and when you feel the time is right, I would love to see you back. -Tiffany S , " Linda " <crazycats711 wrote: > > I love and care about all of you, but I really need to go away, at least for a while. I am seeing things wrong and way too emotional right now. One thing I have learned about myself today is that I don't mind learning the ways of other religions, but if they are not compatible with christianity I cannot except them. If kundalini is not compatible with christianity, then I do not want it either. I cannot compromise my relationship with Christ Jesus and the Holy Spirit that is within me for anything. If kundalini is meant to be for me it will happen rather I am here ot not. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 13, 2009 Report Share Posted July 13, 2009 I'd like to throw in my 2 cents worth regarding being a Christian and K activated person. I am presently a practicing hardcore catholic who prays the rosary once a week, adore and Eat the body & blood of Jesus in the Blessed Sacrament .I am active in a movement that gives out free retreats to bring people back to the Holy Catholic Church. I also do the tibetan rites & safeties and compression prayers daily. I pray to Shakti to release the Holy Fire ( which i believe is the Holy Spirit) in me. The K Activation for me is a private revelation from God/Holy Spirit Himself..It is not meant to repudiate or renounce my Catholic faith but rather to augment it or transcend it with the Mysteries of Kundalini. As is written in the Bible, there are things that Jesus spoke and taught the apostles that were not given to the general public. Even St Paul spoke of things that he had witnessed in visions that were not legal to be spoken to others. God is revealing to us mysteries thru the Kundalini irregardless of our religions.. It is up to us to to receive wether or not we are prepared to accept or not..It is a matter of choice.. a matter of Free Will..we just need to attune our own will to the will of God.IMHO. Blessings and love to all, edgar ________________________________ angelikdementia <angelikdementia Monday, July 13, 2009 10:05:00 AM Re: Sorry I understand. Personally I am not a Christian anymore, but when I was I totally understand where you are coming from. It's scary and you are afraid of going to hell for not following the exact rules that you believe in. Totally understood and respected on my behalf. I left Christianity during a near death experience, but I still love the concept of Christ and his love. I know it is scary to open yourself to other beliefs, or at least open yourself from a Christian perspective. My grandpa was a pastor lol so I know what I am talking about. It took years to get to where I am now. I wish you the best on your journey and when you feel the time is right, I would love to see you back. -Tiffany S Kundalini-Awakening -Systems- 1 , " Linda " <crazycats711@ ....> wrote: > > I love and care about all of you, but I really need to go away, at least for a while. I am seeing things wrong and way too emotional right now. One thing I have learned about myself today is that I don't mind learning the ways of other religions, but if they are not compatible with christianity I cannot except them. If kundalini is not compatible with christianity, then I do not want it either. I cannot compromise my relationship with Christ Jesus and the Holy Spirit that is within me for anything. If kundalini is meant to be for me it will happen rather I am here ot not. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 13, 2009 Report Share Posted July 13, 2009 Love you, Linda! Don't be sorry for taking some time out to sort things out and get grounded. Wish you wouldn't leave the group, just go into lurker status or standby mode. Just don't be actively involved for a bit. Let the posts go by without reading. So what. You have enough going on in your mind right now, sort through that till you are comfortable again. I went through something similar, before coming into knowledge of the K and it was kind of dark for me. I came out the other side a bit different but more sure of who I was and wanted to be. I guess we all have little episodes in life where we just need to put ourselves first and solidify our standing with ourselves before we can be out there with others, no matter how much we care for them. I value your input always, I know where you come from and it's you. I care about your journey, what's happening with you and with James. You feel like part of the family. So with love, I say do what you need to do but hopefully it's not goodbye for long. We'd miss you terribly!!! Much love and a big hug, Linda. Valarie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 13, 2009 Report Share Posted July 13, 2009 Namaste dear Edgar after reading your comment wanted to share that nowadays when i read the words of Jesus i so often see the energetic expressions of K Ma. . . ..there are so many. . . .just last week when Julie was talking about the thread being pulled from her tongue up into the head. . . remembered the parable of the " ten foolish virgins " ?. . . i have a Hindi song about Krishna and in the song's translation; " pull up the wick precious Krishna " . . . .i do not know if for sure what the experience with Julie was, but about ten years ago there was an evening where K Ma moved into the core of my spinal column, it felt like a screw valve that opened then entered and from the base of the spine a thin thread was pullled from all the way up to the third eye then fashioned there. . .while it was happening i prayed to K Ma/Holy Spirit to be with me and to bring understanding. . .and was given the remembrance of the parable of the foolish virgins and drawing up and trimming the wick. . . . it seems the further K Ma has taken me the more congruency i have found between the outward views of incompatiably. .. . . plus as far as experiential, the Saints of the Catholic Church are some of the riches accounts of K Ma that i have been blessed to be guided by. .. . many of the people that show up at Amma's gatherings are Priest and Nuns from all around the world. . .as well as all the other religions. . .. Edgar it seems to me there has long been the " El Rio Debajo Del Rio " in the Catholic Church, and no matter what the " power to be " tried they could not eradicate it, the River is strong and vibrant. . .and the people of the Catholic Church that have connected Mother Mary and the River beneath the River are some of the folks i admire the most. . . ..there are many beautiful ones, and definitely add you in El Rio Debajo Del Rio's flow, dear Edgar. . . just my 1 cent worth. . . honor ordinary sparrow , Edok Ananda <edok.ananda wrote: > > I'd like to throw in my 2 cents worth regarding being a Christian and K activated person. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 13, 2009 Report Share Posted July 13, 2009 Namaste..my dear Sparrow, The River beneath the River..i like that. If i understand correctly it is something that the Catholic Church would like to control? The movement i am involved in is actually banned by the Catholic Church Heirarchy but the thing is, we have been working the conversion of souls for the last 40 years and sending them back to the same Mother church that is condemning us. El Rio Debajo Del Rio. Thank you.. I know u, I love u, and I always will, edgar ________________________________ ordinarysparrow <ordinarysparrow Monday, July 13, 2009 11:36:58 AM Re: Sorry Namaste dear Edgar after reading your comment wanted to share that nowadays when i read the words of Jesus i so often see the energetic expressions of K Ma. . . ..there are so many. . . .just last week when Julie was talking about the thread being pulled from her tongue up into the head. . . Recent Activity * 8 New Members * 20 New PhotosVisit Your Group Ads on Learn more now. Reach customers searching for you. Group Charity California Pet Rescue: Furry Friends Rescue Mental Health Zone Schizophrenia groups Find support .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 13, 2009 Report Share Posted July 13, 2009 Dear Linda.... I am sitting here and I want to say something that will be of assistance to you... I would like to hold the pain for you for a while... I am not sure wheither to write some words or not because I do not want to be the source of further pain arriving to you..... I will probably go on and on and on if I start.. to start or not to start that is the question... OK .. I am going to write and I do so with loving intention I request that the Holy Spirit guide me to write clearly what is in my heart to yours... Your faith in Christ Jesus shines through all your posts... I love that you are a christian, that you are Kundalini active, that you are not sure that Kundalini and Holy Spirit are one and the same, that you have OBE's, that a Lion visits you, that you are crazy..cats, that you excude joy in the day to day holy work of living,,,, you have inspired me and you have supported me in my confusion and How I wish I could do the same for you now. Being the selfish creature that I am, I wanted to ask you about me being visited by a wolf before and now I am seeing those wolf eyes again at times in medditation... Linda where in our Christian back ground did that sort of experience come from... I do not understand it ... I thought you would have a handle on it from a christian perspective too, and then I knew it would be ok for me, it would make my awakening easier ...selfish and demanding and that intention was not fair of me and I am sorry. I have felt the love of our Lord penetrate every fibre of my being and just as you expressed. I do not want to loose that love or saving grace, by following some other path in error. Your connection with Jesus and the Holy spirit is strong and you are so deeply rooted Linda, I thought or assumed that you had integrated Kundalini activity into your experience of your Christian faith and I may have leaned on that assumption. You know that parataxic distortion thingy I spoke about in my last post ... did it add to your pain body? I am sorry if I was the source of more pain and I willingly take that pain from you if it should be so Linda. I am aware that I am also thinking here about myself, In my selfishness I do not want you to go becaue I have a need for you to be here... but that is my challenge Linda not yours... To me you seem to be a strong sure and grounded person Linda... you are saying that you are feeling the opposite of that, " sattered and not on a good foundation " you know that you are loved by our Lord Jesus and that he holds you in the palm of his hand.... he knows your true self and he can feel your trembling even as he holds you securely Linda.... Kundalini will continue to unfold if He so wishes it to... so feel secure in your scatterdness if at all possible for you. Your wondering about Kunalini being compatable with christianity is a very healty questioning in my book Linda...well I would say that as I have done and do the same thing..lol Some of the beliefs that people hold here are not compatible with christianity... Byt hey I know you are ok with that Linda because I have read your posts.... you see how others hav different beliefs.. Kundalini does not awaken in persons of one belief system only.... Kundalini is not exclusive to any mind set. Ok here I go with the ???? but please God it will be useful for you. You say you are feeling scattered and not on a good foundation.. Is fear present... wearing another mask so you don't recognise it? shaking andpuling at your roots. Sometimes we don't allow ourselves to even ask the question that we must ask.... so I am asking a question here Are you feeling fear that Kundalini is aligned... only... with that which is not compatible with Christianity? Have you asked and answered that question already? I want to wrap you up in a warm blanket infused with lavender and rock with you on a huge rocking chair until all is well... I love you. I honour all your decisions Linda and as we all bless each other at the end of our Mass....I bless you with these word too..Go in peace to love and serve the Lord. Mudh much Love, Julia. <crazycats711 wrote: > > I love and care about all of you, but I really need to go away, at least for a while. I am seeing things wrong and way too emotional right now. One thing I have learned about myself today is that I don't mind learning the ways of other religions, but if they are not compatible with christianity I cannot except them. If kundalini is not compatible with christianity, then I do not want it either. I cannot compromise my relationship with Christ Jesus and the Holy Spirit that is within me for anything. If kundalini is meant to be for me it will happen rather I am here ot not. > > All of these different beliefs and principles all seem as paradoxes that get you nowhere, but only causes pain and confusion. It is beginning to all be as totaly nonsense to me, like disecting a bug under an microscope. I feel to scattered and not on a good foundation. I need to separate, at least for a while. > > Love & light, > Linda > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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