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Chrism & All:

In both my dreams and meditation for the past few days I see a symbol that is

like the swastika, but it is not. At first it startled me ...but when I took

notice with my heart, it feels light and positive. In the imagery I cannot see

people's faces but they are a rainbow of colour-like a swirling aura, and over

their heart is this symbol. This morning it was there again, but this time on a

pottery-like vessel that held water. The symbolism of it, being on a

water-holding vessel, pointing in the four directions, and it being over the

people's hearts is significant to me (I just don't " know " the meaning or why)

and fills me with a sense of hope which is almost a bliss-like homecoming

feeling. I guess I'm more-so used to dreaming of animals and nature objects. I

would be appreciative of any thoughts on the matter. " Channels " seem to be

opening up a rather quickly lately, so I want to stay in check before not being

able to stay connected to the group when I travel to Europe soon. Thank you

chrism and everyone.

-Danielle

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Hi!I saw something similar, Its a cross, but with bends - and I found this

photo</photos/album/1\

071440854/pic/1901683582/view?picmode= & mode=tn & order=ordinal & start=1 & count=20 & di\

r=asc>that

was kind of like it but not...

 

I get so much love from it!

 

Perhaps its symbolic, in this modern world, that we associate the swastika

with 'hate' - when actually - its more a threat to our ego. :) Interesting.

 

With love

 

 

2009/7/15 iamwaitingmoon <iamwaitingmoon

 

>

>

> & All:

> In both my dreams and meditation for the past few days I see a symbol that

> is like the swastika, but it is not. At first it startled me ...but when I

> took notice with my heart, it feels light and positive. In the imagery I

> cannot see people's faces but they are a rainbow of colour-like a swirling

> aura, and over their heart is this symbol. This morning it was there again,

> but this time on a pottery-like vessel that held water. The symbolism of it,

> being on a water-holding vessel, pointing in the four directions, and it

> being over the people's hearts is significant to me (I just don't " know " the

> meaning or why) and fills me with a sense of hope which is almost a

> bliss-like homecoming feeling. I guess I'm more-so used to dreaming of

> animals and nature objects. I would be appreciative of any thoughts on the

> matter. " Channels " seem to be opening up a rather quickly lately, so I want

> to stay in check before not being able to stay connected to the group when I

> travel to Europe soon. Thank you chrism and everyone.

> -Danielle

>

>

>

 

 

 

--

Tiffany Jones

Patheya

 

 

 

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This symbol was ALL over India. It was at each entrance to one's house or

one's store. I forgot the meaning, but it is a postive one.

The negative swastika symbol that we are familiar with is backwards, I believe

Hitler did that.

I'll have to find out the meaning of it, now that's bothering me...but I just

wanted you to know it is good and it's everywhere with the Hindu's in India.

 

Laura

 

, Tiffany Jones

<Tiffany wrote:

>

> Hi!I saw something similar, Its a cross, but with bends - and I found this

>

photo</photos/album/1\

071440854/pic/1901683582/view?picmode= & mode=tn & order=ordinal & start=1 & count=20 & di\

r=asc>that

> was kind of like it but not...

>

> I get so much love from it!

>

> Perhaps its symbolic, in this modern world, that we associate the swastika

> with 'hate' - when actually - its more a threat to our ego. :) Interesting.

>

> With love

>

>

> 2009/7/15 iamwaitingmoon <iamwaitingmoon

>

> >

> >

> > & All:

> > In both my dreams and meditation for the past few days I see a symbol that

> > is like the swastika, but it is not. At first it startled me ...but when I

> > took notice with my heart, it feels light and positive. In the imagery I

> > cannot see people's faces but they are a rainbow of colour-like a swirling

> > aura, and over their heart is this symbol. This morning it was there again,

> > but this time on a pottery-like vessel that held water. The symbolism of it,

> > being on a water-holding vessel, pointing in the four directions, and it

> > being over the people's hearts is significant to me (I just don't " know " the

> > meaning or why) and fills me with a sense of hope which is almost a

> > bliss-like homecoming feeling. I guess I'm more-so used to dreaming of

> > animals and nature objects. I would be appreciative of any thoughts on the

> > matter. " Channels " seem to be opening up a rather quickly lately, so I want

> > to stay in check before not being able to stay connected to the group when I

> > travel to Europe soon. Thank you chrism and everyone.

> > -Danielle

> >

> >

> >

>

>

>

> --

> Tiffany Jones

> Patheya

>

>

>

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it is a blessing from the 4 corners.

to me it shows the way that energy flows.It looks to me like the holy grail cup

.. if you visualise a swastika in 3d then rotate it as the way it is directed to

flow , it becomes a cup , the cosmic cup the shape of the female force,shakti,

one flow i would assume forms creation , and flowing its opposite direction

destruction.both are relevant and is creation better than destruction?

 

The isle of man in the uk has a 3 legged one.

 

Hitler went all the way to tibet looking for immortality/ kundalini?.There is

way more to the hitler story than we see, as they say that the arian posesses

the fire, could that fire be k?

 

anyway the arians migrated, im not clear on this but , (no im not a nazi, just

interested in immortality too ! :)) I think the travel goes

from atlantis , to the mayans, then over the barring straight into tibet, then

kurdistan,iran, india , scrithians, greeks, irish, scottish.

 

if you look into the folklore tales of these counties you can certainly see it

is rich in kundalini symbology.

 

purple

 

 

 

, " lo1o113 " <lo1o113

wrote:

>

> This symbol was ALL over India. It was at each entrance to one's house or

one's store. I forgot the meaning, but it is a postive one.

> The negative swastika symbol that we are familiar with is backwards, I believe

Hitler did that.

> I'll have to find out the meaning of it, now that's bothering me...but I just

wanted you to know it is good and it's everywhere with the Hindu's in India.

>

> Laura

>

> , Tiffany Jones <Tiffany@>

wrote:

> >

> > Hi!I saw something similar, Its a cross, but with bends - and I found this

> >

photo</photos/album/1\

071440854/pic/1901683582/view?picmode= & mode=tn & order=ordinal & start=1 & count=20 & di\

r=asc>that

> > was kind of like it but not...

> >

> > I get so much love from it!

> >

> > Perhaps its symbolic, in this modern world, that we associate the swastika

> > with 'hate' - when actually - its more a threat to our ego. :) Interesting.

> >

> > With love

> >

> >

> > 2009/7/15 iamwaitingmoon <iamwaitingmoon@>

> >

> > >

> > >

> > > & All:

> > > In both my dreams and meditation for the past few days I see a symbol that

> > > is like the swastika, but it is not. At first it startled me ...but when I

> > > took notice with my heart, it feels light and positive. In the imagery I

> > > cannot see people's faces but they are a rainbow of colour-like a swirling

> > > aura, and over their heart is this symbol. This morning it was there

again,

> > > but this time on a pottery-like vessel that held water. The symbolism of

it,

> > > being on a water-holding vessel, pointing in the four directions, and it

> > > being over the people's hearts is significant to me (I just don't " know "

the

> > > meaning or why) and fills me with a sense of hope which is almost a

> > > bliss-like homecoming feeling. I guess I'm more-so used to dreaming of

> > > animals and nature objects. I would be appreciative of any thoughts on the

> > > matter. " Channels " seem to be opening up a rather quickly lately, so I

want

> > > to stay in check before not being able to stay connected to the group when

I

> > > travel to Europe soon. Thank you chrism and everyone.

> > > -Danielle

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> > --

> > Tiffany Jones

> > Patheya

> >

> >

> >

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also look at the peace symbol, it is the arms of the tree of life , the holy

cross , with the limbs broken off.it then becomes the crows foot, creation

destruction , yin , yang, again for me. symbology is really interesting and

subconsciously it speaks to us. Look around you can see it being used everywhere

, look at the symbol of windows on your computer it is a swastika.

 

I like yantra's myself.

 

purple.

 

, Tiffany Jones

<Tiffany wrote:

>

> Hi!I saw something similar, Its a cross, but with bends - and I found this

>

photo</photos/album/1\

071440854/pic/1901683582/view?picmode= & mode=tn & order=ordinal & start=1 & count=20 & di\

r=asc>that

> was kind of like it but not...

>

> I get so much love from it!

>

> Perhaps its symbolic, in this modern world, that we associate the swastika

> with 'hate' - when actually - its more a threat to our ego. :) Interesting.

>

> With love

>

>

> 2009/7/15 iamwaitingmoon <iamwaitingmoon

>

> >

> >

> > & All:

> > In both my dreams and meditation for the past few days I see a symbol that

> > is like the swastika, but it is not. At first it startled me ...but when I

> > took notice with my heart, it feels light and positive. In the imagery I

> > cannot see people's faces but they are a rainbow of colour-like a swirling

> > aura, and over their heart is this symbol. This morning it was there again,

> > but this time on a pottery-like vessel that held water. The symbolism of it,

> > being on a water-holding vessel, pointing in the four directions, and it

> > being over the people's hearts is significant to me (I just don't " know " the

> > meaning or why) and fills me with a sense of hope which is almost a

> > bliss-like homecoming feeling. I guess I'm more-so used to dreaming of

> > animals and nature objects. I would be appreciative of any thoughts on the

> > matter. " Channels " seem to be opening up a rather quickly lately, so I want

> > to stay in check before not being able to stay connected to the group when I

> > travel to Europe soon. Thank you chrism and everyone.

> > -Danielle

> >

> >

> >

>

>

>

> --

> Tiffany Jones

> Patheya

>

>

>

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to me this is The holy grail cup ,mother mary, showing her energy in all of her

shapes and forms.

 

purple

 

 

, " iamwaitingmoon "

<iamwaitingmoon wrote:

>

> & All:

> In both my dreams and meditation for the past few days I see a symbol that is

like the swastika, but it is not. At first it startled me ...but when I took

notice with my heart, it feels light and positive. In the imagery I cannot see

people's faces but they are a rainbow of colour-like a swirling aura, and over

their heart is this symbol. This morning it was there again, but this time on a

pottery-like vessel that held water. The symbolism of it, being on a

water-holding vessel, pointing in the four directions, and it being over the

people's hearts is significant to me (I just don't " know " the meaning or why)

and fills me with a sense of hope which is almost a bliss-like homecoming

feeling. I guess I'm more-so used to dreaming of animals and nature objects. I

would be appreciative of any thoughts on the matter. " Channels " seem to be

opening up a rather quickly lately, so I want to stay in check before not being

able to stay connected to the group when I travel to Europe soon. Thank you

chrism and everyone.

> -Danielle

>

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I found this:

 

Swastika

Second in importance only to the Om, the Swastika, a symbol which look like the

Nazi emblem, holds a great religious significance for the Hindus. Swastika is

not a syllable or a letter, but a pictorial character in the shape of a cross

with branches bent at right angles and facing in a clockwise direction. A must

for all religious celebrations and festivals, Swastika symbolizes the eternal

nature of the Brahman, for it points in all directions, thus representing the

omnipresence of the Absolute.

The term 'Swastika' is believed to be a fusion of the two Sanskrit words 'Su'

(good) and 'Asati' (to exist), which when combined means 'May Good Prevail'.

Historians say Swastika could have represented a real structure and that in

ancient times forts were built for defense reasons in a shape closely resembling

the Swastika. For its protective power this shape began to be sanctified.

 

http://hinduism.about.com/od/artculture/a/major_hindu_symbols.htm

 

Laura

 

 

, " iamwaitingmoon "

<iamwaitingmoon wrote:

>

> & All:

> In both my dreams and meditation for the past few days I see a symbol that is

like the swastika, but it is not. At first it startled me ...but when I took

notice with my heart, it feels light and positive. In the imagery I cannot see

people's faces but they are a rainbow of colour-like a swirling aura, and over

their heart is this symbol. This morning it was there again, but this time on a

pottery-like vessel that held water. The symbolism of it, being on a

water-holding vessel, pointing in the four directions, and it being over the

people's hearts is significant to me (I just don't " know " the meaning or why)

and fills me with a sense of hope which is almost a bliss-like homecoming

feeling. I guess I'm more-so used to dreaming of animals and nature objects. I

would be appreciative of any thoughts on the matter. " Channels " seem to be

opening up a rather quickly lately, so I want to stay in check before not being

able to stay connected to the group when I travel to Europe soon. Thank you

chrism and everyone.

> -Danielle

>

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Just this past month I had watch some Youtube video of Lumeria and the meaning

of symbols. The swastika is one of the original religious symbols and represent

a lot. It is still today in every religion in some form of it. The cross is a

simplified version of it. The general meaning is that it is the four corners,

the for winds (means the four voices or messengers of God.It is also a symobol

for the whole kundalini process. The Archangel Uriel rules over or the

messenger of the left arm...earth...the Tree of Life (symbol tree). The top arm

is ruled/messenger by the Archangel Michael..fire...the Sword of Truth (symbol

sword in shape of a cross). The right arm is ruled/messenger by

Raphael...air...the healer (sybmol the caduceus

The bottom arm is ruled/messenger Gabriel...water..the Chalice. The fire and air

represents male, the earth and water represents the feminine. Hitler was not the

origin of the swastika being backward, it existed before his time, he just gave

it a bad rap. The plain backwards one represents the feminine and the other

direction of the arms represents the male. The swaktika symbol does not mean

anything bad. It represent the foundation of creation over all.

 

That is what I have discovered about it. I am very into learning about symbols

and what they mean.

 

Blessings,

Linda

 

, " iamwaitingmoon "

<iamwaitingmoon wrote:

>

> & All:

> In both my dreams and meditation for the past few days I see a symbol that is

like the swastika, but it is not. At first it startled me ...but when I took

notice with my heart, it feels light and positive. In the imagery I cannot see

people's faces but they are a rainbow of colour-like a swirling aura, and over

their heart is this symbol. This morning it was there again, but this time on a

pottery-like vessel that held water. The symbolism of it, being on a

water-holding vessel, pointing in the four directions, and it being over the

people's hearts is significant to me (I just don't " know " the meaning or why)

and fills me with a sense of hope which is almost a bliss-like homecoming

feeling. I guess I'm more-so used to dreaming of animals and nature objects. I

would be appreciative of any thoughts on the matter. " Channels " seem to be

opening up a rather quickly lately, so I want to stay in check before not being

able to stay connected to the group when I travel to Europe soon. Thank you

chrism and everyone.

> -Danielle

>

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dear Danielle and Linda

 

Linda you have stated this most beautifully and it is powerful energetic

symbol. . .and when seen in its energetic form we can readily see how so

many of the great religions have its expression. . .another one i would

add is the Yin/Yang with its four internal moving parts, and also the

four gaits of the Native, Hindu, and Buddhist gates of the medicine

wheel or mandalas. . .

 

Danielle the Durga picture i have in my altar has Durga holding the

symbol in one of her eight arms. . .when i first started going to the

Temple, would sit on the floor in front of Durga. . . soon came to

experience the objects that Durga (the Hindu Universal Mother) carries

in her hands has many layers of meaning. . .Then when i began the

energetic work found that each instrument that Durga holds in her hands

is an energetic expression that is used within the body to do the

energetic weaving. . .The energetic swastika is used continiously and

the little feet are like fingers that catch, hold, and spin the one

continious thread in the weaving process. . .at first i was so

mystified, for i could not understand how it was possible to get the

" tool box " into the body and use them so aptly for the weaving. . .it

continues to be part of the Great Mystery to me. . .how can somethings

be so etheral and subtle and yet so physcial. . . .

 

So much mystery. . .and such a blessing for the sharing and grace of

each of our awakenings. . . perhaps K Ma is polishing the heart?. .

..there is a Sufi concept of polishing the heart, hmmm maybe like

polishing your windows?. . .The Sufi system that i have read through

Irina Tweedie and her teacher speak of the heart chakra being the most

important to work with, for they said once the heart was " polished " all

the others would line up and the awakening would be easier for the other

chakras. . .just something i remember and know you will know whether the

words fit. . . .

 

Hope your trip will be great to Europe and Ireland. . .Have fun and be

blessed. .

 

love and peace

ordinary sparrow

 

 

 

 

, " Linda "

<crazycats711 wrote:

>

> Just this past month I had watch some Youtube video of Lumeria and the

meaning of symbols. The swastika is one of the original religious

symbols and represent a lot. It is still today in every religion in some

form of it. The cross is a simplified version of it. The general meaning

is that it is the four corners, the for winds (means the four voices or

messengers of God.It is also a symobol for the whole kundalini process.

The Archangel Uriel rules over or the messenger of the left

arm...earth...the Tree of Life (symbol tree). The top arm is

ruled/messenger by the Archangel Michael..fire...the Sword of Truth

(symbol sword in shape of a cross). The right arm is ruled/messenger by

Raphael...air...the healer (sybmol the caduceus

> The bottom arm is ruled/messenger Gabriel...water..the Chalice. The

fire and air represents male, the earth and water represents the

feminine. Hitler was not the origin of the swastika being backward, it

existed before his time, he just gave it a bad rap. The plain backwards

one represents the feminine and the other direction of the arms

represents the male. The swastika symbol does not mean anything bad. It

represent the foundation of creation over all.

>

> That is what I have discovered about it. I am very into learning about

symbols and what they mean.

>

> Blessings,

> Linda

>

> , " iamwaitingmoon "

iamwaitingmoon@ wrote:

> >

> > & All:

> > In both my dreams and meditation for the past few days I see a

symbol that is like the swastika, but it is not. At first it startled me

....but when I took notice with my heart, it feels light and positive. In

the imagery I cannot see people's faces but they are a rainbow of

colour-like a swirling aura, and over their heart is this symbol. This

morning it was there again, but this time on a pottery-like vessel that

held water. The symbolism of it, being on a water-holding vessel,

pointing in the four directions, and it being over the people's hearts

is significant to me (I just don't " know " the meaning or why) and fills

me with a sense of hope which is almost a bliss-like homecoming feeling.

I guess I'm more-so used to dreaming of animals and nature objects. I

would be appreciative of any thoughts on the matter. " Channels " seem to

be opening up a rather quickly lately, so I want to stay in check before

not being able to stay connected to the group when I travel to Europe

soon. Thank you chrism and everyone.

> > -Danielle

> >

>

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Thanks Laura, that was interesting to read about the Hindu meaning. I did a

search on it back few weeks ago when Tiffany J, I think it was shared about it.

Or it might have been Sparrow. Danielle, you may want to do a search here and

see what was said then about it, and the person shared a very interesting

version of it, just in case you missed that post.

 

Blessings,

Linda

 

, " lo1o113 " <lo1o113

wrote:

>

> I found this:

>

> Swastika

> Second in importance only to the Om, the Swastika, a symbol which look like

the Nazi emblem, holds a great religious significance for the Hindus.

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Its a good thing Danielle. Represents the movement of energy. The

Swastika is an ancient symbol which was utilized by many early

civilizations. Only in the last century was the Black Sun given as a

representation of evil. This is actually not the case as regards all

swastikas. Remember intention+ symbol of that intention = the expanded

fruits of that intention. The Hindu and Jewish and Shamanic communities

among others represent it as a powerful construct of movement. It

represents among other things, the Kundalini. You are right on track

dear Danielle!-

 

 

P.S.I tried to get a pic of the swastika that I like but the site it was on isnt

helpful imho. So please do not take as an endorsement from me for the page of

Mr. Boyd. - c

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Thank you chrism and all. I came across (literally) the following during

lunch... I like to get out of the office for my lunch break; I get so exhausted

spending my morning at work surfing through the k-group postings (joking). I

had everyone's post response in my mind (thank you) as I strolled down the tiled

office hallway. This was apparently the starting line of my lunchtime scavenger

hunt. The grout in between the tiles formed a continuous cross symbol. I was

forced to pause smack in the middle of the INTERSECTION due to a large truck

with colourful letters blaring the word " INTEGRATED " ; to my left was a cross

symbol which read " URGENT " , and to my right was another cross symbol with a

snake running through the center blinking " CRITICAL " . Just out of sight,

plastered onto a lamp post, was a poster of a skull with a swirly at the

forehead and bold lettering propped in the corner reminding all, " 3RDI " . (I grin

at it every day now as it welcomes me to work mile post.) The little girl

sitting in a stroller, shaded with a rainbow umbrella, sported a shirt with big

red hearts, and it sang " LOVE " ; the car turning in front of me had a yellow and

blue sticker that read " HOPI " . (Ding, ding, ding …that's it!!) That is it…all

of the above. It represents all this -fortune, prosperity, love, hope, the

directions- and like the saying goes… " All this, plus a bag o' chips " (like the

very random bag of chips I handed to the homeless man while inquiring, will

these make you too thirsty?). Thank you all so much for the puzzle pieces and

assisting me with fitting them together.

-Danielle

 

 

, " chrism " <>

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> Its a good thing Danielle. Represents the movement of energy. The

> Swastika is an ancient symbol which was utilized by many early

> civilizations.

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Beautiful experience ! Thank you for sharing this. It was running like a

film in my head.

 

2009/7/16 iamwaitingmoon <iamwaitingmoon

 

>

>

> Thank you chrism and all. I came across (literally) the following during

> lunch... I like to get out of the office for my lunch break; I get so

> exhausted spending my morning at work surfing through the k-group postings

> (joking). I had everyone's post response in my mind (thank you) as I

> strolled down the tiled office hallway. This was apparently the starting

> line of my lunchtime scavenger hunt. The grout in between the tiles formed a

> continuous cross symbol. I was forced to pause smack in the middle of the

> INTERSECTION due to a large truck with colourful letters blaring the word

> " INTEGRATED " ; to my left was a cross symbol which read " URGENT " , and to my

> right was another cross symbol with a snake running through the center

> blinking " CRITICAL " . Just out of sight, plastered onto a lamp post, was a

> poster of a skull with a swirly at the forehead and bold lettering propped

> in the corner reminding all, " 3RDI " . (I grin at it every day now as it

> welcomes me to work mile post.) The little girl sitting in a stroller,

> shaded with a rainbow umbrella, sported a shirt with big red hearts, and it

> sang " LOVE " ; the car turning in front of me had a yellow and blue sticker

> that read " HOPI " . (Ding, ding, ding …that's it!!) That is it…all of the

> above. It represents all this -fortune, prosperity, love, hope, the

> directions- and like the saying goes… " All this, plus a bag o' chips " (like

> the very random bag of chips I handed to the homeless man while inquiring,

> will these make you too thirsty?). Thank you all so much for the puzzle

> pieces and assisting me with fitting them together.

> -Danielle

>

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That's awesome! Thanks for sharing, Danielle!

 

Laura

 

, " iamwaitingmoon "

<iamwaitingmoon wrote:

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> Thank you chrism and all. I came across (literally) the following during

lunch... I like to get out of the office for my lunch break; I get so exhausted

spending my morning at work surfing through the k-group postings (joking). I

had everyone's post response in my mind (thank you) as I strolled down the tiled

office hallway. This was apparently the starting line of my lunchtime scavenger

hunt. The grout in between the tiles formed a continuous cross symbol. I was

forced to pause smack in the middle of the INTERSECTION due to a large truck

with colourful letters blaring the word " INTEGRATED " ; to my left was a cross

symbol which read " URGENT " , and to my right was another cross symbol with a

snake running through the center blinking " CRITICAL " . Just out of sight,

plastered onto a lamp post, was a poster of a skull with a swirly at the

forehead and bold lettering propped in the corner reminding all, " 3RDI " . (I grin

at it every day now as it welcomes me to work mile post.) The little girl

sitting in a stroller, shaded with a rainbow umbrella, sported a shirt with big

red hearts, and it sang " LOVE " ; the car turning in front of me had a yellow and

blue sticker that read " HOPI " . (Ding, ding, ding …that's it!!) That is it…all

of the above. It represents all this -fortune, prosperity, love, hope, the

directions- and like the saying goes… " All this, plus a bag o' chips " (like the

very random bag of chips I handed to the homeless man while inquiring, will

these make you too thirsty?). Thank you all so much for the puzzle pieces and

assisting me with fitting them together.

> -Danielle

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> , " chrism " <@>

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> > Its a good thing Danielle. Represents the movement of energy. The

> > Swastika is an ancient symbol which was utilized by many early

> > civilizations.

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