Guest guest Posted July 31, 2009 Report Share Posted July 31, 2009 What happens to the kundalini when you transcend? Does it remain with the soul? Is it classified as a physical element or as a spiritual element? Does it continue to " assist you " in the post life stage? Can you, do you continue to nourish its growth in the post life episode? Does it remain with the soul, incarnation to incarnation or does it only appear on this plane, if so does it attach/appear when the person comes out of the womb or into it? Apparently, what I understand is that we all have it - on this plane, but it is not awakened until we take positive action. Although it is a part of us, it is separated from us. (All these paradoxes in life????? It seems like everything that is valuable is a paradox, doesn't it.) It awakens on its own through spiritual growth or you can activate it by doing something specifically to activate it - is this correct? How much does it grow, or how big, or whatever. I suppose some people have more than others. What makes it become more? What happens to the person who has more of it, does it give him more insight, or what? While meditating I began to go places, without my knowledge. Soon I began to notice " sensations, feelings " which were not normal, and not there before I began my meditation and new lifestyle, and found them to be associated with the kundalini. I've always heard about it but never thought I " had any " , or thought mine was not/had not been awakened. While meditating and venturing out of body, I would feel these " earthquakes " , or while sitting still I would have these " creeping feelings " crawling up my back or arms, or something like that. I now do astral projections most efficiently. I don't know if the k force is a result of meditation and astral projections or if the k force is the cause which produces the astral projections, etc. Now, many months later, I don't have these sensations as big or as often. Is the kundalini with everyone who mediates and do advanced spiritual learning's? Can the k force be with the mundane, cardinal person? My experience has only been less than two years. My girlfriend had a heart attack in our back yard and I laid with her on the ground until the paramedics came. She never returned. I feel that when " the angel of death " came around, he scooped up the whole package, me included, and my DNA was changed and I became a new entity – my life certainly did make a radical change from then on. Since than I began a new life style associated with meditation and OBE's, and of course with the Kundalini. I'm learning a lot about it but these few lingering questions are still persisting... Thanks, and many blessings. Robert from Columbus Ohio. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 31, 2009 Report Share Posted July 31, 2009 May she rest in peace Robert. I think a lot of your thoughts are along the right line. Have a search in the past posts and has answered some of these questions. The Kundalini is with is dormant. If we do awaken it, there it is more likely to awaken again in future lives. Have you begun following the safeties? blessings to you too! bradly http://www.kundaliniawakeningsystems1.com/the-safeties.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 31, 2009 Report Share Posted July 31, 2009 Thats a lot of questions Robert!!! And I gotta tell you, I dont really have many answers for you as I tend not to ponder on details too much. :-))I think that kundalini is the female life force energy and so as much as we are part the Father we are part the Mother too, I think we will always be these parts and the energy stays with us as its part of our very being. It probably feels different and expresses differently. I would say we feel K more in the flesh as we are not purely spirit yet, but when in the spirit its probably as natural a part of us as breathing is here.Thats my guess ! Sorry about your girlfriend, interesting change of direction for you.K and OBE's are definitely linked, one can lead to the other in both instances.Much love elektra x x x Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 31, 2009 Report Share Posted July 31, 2009 Mes maken good sentences sumtimes. sorrree bradly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 31, 2009 Report Share Posted July 31, 2009 Namaste dear Robert so many questions i felt a little overwhelmed and intrigued just reading them. . . .one of the most important characteristics for embarking on the spiritual journey is curiosity. . . . . Robert you have been given some interesting questions to live and it will be most interesting to hear the answers you live into, perhaps some will fall away and some will be answered soon or some will or have already taken ancient years and ancient miles to answer, and some may come this day. . . . often times i have found the answers are not nearly as important as the path that one walks trying to find the answers. Have always loved Rilke's statement; " the answers are found in living the questions at risk. " and " Have patience with everything unresolved in your heart and try to love the questions themselves. Do not search for the answers that could be given to you now, because you would not be able to live them. And the point is to live everything. Live the questions now. Perhaps, then some day far in the future, you will gradually , without even knowing it, live your way to the answer. " Rainer Maria Rilke Robert you are conscious of the good questions to ask and live into. . . ..i think what Rilke is saying, live the fullness of the experience and the mind will follow. . . . Robert the archives will surely illuminate some of your questions. . . . ..another course that you might find of interest is the Tao Te Ching for if one equates the K Ma life force energy as being one with the Tao then many " answers " might be gleemed there also. . . .for example the more one gives the more there is to give, and it cannot be used up. . . .you can find many references there that might be of interest. . . . Robert thanks for sharing your beautiful, tragic, and transformative experience of love and loss of your girlfriend. . .my heart hurts for you and sorry for this loss. . . .sounds like you had a " near death " like experience as she ascended so great was your holding of her in the deep places. . . .and she with you. . . a love so dear she takes you with her and gifts you with a breath from heaven's door. . .to hold and be guided from deep within. . . . such grace and blessing. . . .Robert may you live it with great love, joy, peace, and wisdom. . . . love and peace ordinary sparrow , " Robert " <robertfeb wrote: > > What happens to the kundalini when you transcend? Does it remain with the soul? Is it classified as a physical element or as a spiritual element? Does it continue to " assist you " in the post life stage? Can you, do you continue to nourish its growth in the post life episode? Does it remain with the soul, incarnation to incarnation or does it only appear on this plane, if so does it attach/appear when the person comes out of the womb or into it? > > Apparently, what I understand is that we all have it - on this plane, but it is not awakened until we take positive action. Although it is a part of us, it is separated from us. (All these paradoxes in life????? It seems like everything that is valuable is a paradox, doesn't it.) > > It awakens on its own through spiritual growth or you can activate it by doing something specifically to activate it - is this correct? How much does it grow, or how big, or whatever. I suppose some people have more than others. What makes it become more? What happens to the person who has more of it, does it give him more insight, or what? > > While meditating I began to go places, without my knowledge. Soon I began to notice " sensations, feelings " which were not normal, and not there before I began my meditation and new lifestyle, and found them to be associated with the kundalini. I've always heard about it but never thought I " had any " , or thought mine was not/had not been awakened. > > While meditating and venturing out of body, I would feel these " earthquakes " , or while sitting still I would have these " creeping feelings " crawling up my back or arms, or something like that. I now do astral projections most efficiently. I don't know if the k force is a result of meditation and astral projections or if the k force is the cause which produces the astral projections, etc. Now, many months later, I don't have these sensations as big or as often. > > Is the kundalini with everyone who mediates and do advanced spiritual learning's? Can the k force be with the mundane, cardinal person? > > My experience has only been less than two years. My girlfriend had a heart attack in our back yard and I laid with her on the ground until the paramedics came. She never returned. I feel that when " the angel of death " came around, he scooped up the whole package, me included, and my DNA was changed and I became a new entity – my life certainly did make a radical change from then on. Since than I began a new life style associated with meditation and OBE's, and of course with the Kundalini. I'm learning a lot about it but these few lingering questions are still persisting... Thanks, and many blessings. Robert from Columbus Ohio. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 31, 2009 Report Share Posted July 31, 2009 What happens to the kundalini when you transcend? @@ It comes with you. @@ Does it remain with the soul? @@ Yes @@ Is it classified as a physical element or as a spiritual element? @@ Spiritual element or as close to that idea as we can understand within limited awareness. Classification standards are not even similar.@@ Does it continue to " assist you " in the post life stage? @@ Yes. It can help you come into certain refinements that allow you access to areas of understanding that would not come to a person un awakened. @@ Can you, do you continue to nourish its growth in the post life episode? @@ Yes. @@ Does it remain with the soul, incarnation to incarnation or does it only appear on this plane, if so does it attach/appear when the person comes out of the womb or into it? @@ It is a force of divinity. It has very few limitations and does express in all of these ways and more. For those who have it awakened it will often come into their lives very early in the new incarnated expression. This provides the platform to be built upon by the incarnated one at an earlier time. Still there are no guarantees and other factors will also need to be present for the divine to be given into a further inculcation upon the energetic and spiritual in the person.@@ What makes it become more? @@ Surrender to its expression and its own agenda allow the idea of " more " to occur. @@ What happens to the person who has more of it, does it give him more insight, or what? @@ Not just insight but many other attributes of the exalted body of awareness. @@ It awakens on its own through spiritual growth or you can activate it by doing something specifically to activate it - is this correct? @@ Yes and sometimes. The practice must be of a certain quality and frequency of expression. It can be conscious or unconscious but it needs to be present in many cases. In other cases it comes into incarnation with the body as it is born. It is awakened and yet there is always more to advance into within the parameters of limited awareness.@@ How much does it grow, or how big, or whatever. I suppose some people have more than others. @@ As much as the individual can open to it or surrender to its expression will determine the strength and dynamic of that expression. Even inside of that scenario the " pre exisiting " attributes of the Kundalini can come into expression without the conscious ego aspect knowing that it will. In this way is the idea of " more " inserted into that specific individuals expression.@@ Is the kundalini with everyone who mediates and do advanced spiritual learning's? Can the k force be with the mundane, cardinal person? @@ No it is not with everyone who meditates whether or not they do advanced spiritual practices. That is the reason they are sometimes given into these ractices though as it is a preparation for an expression later in the life experience or within another life experience. Slow is good for most. Yes the Kundalini IS with the cardinal mundane person always! We are all such people.@@ blessings to you Robert from Columbus Ohio. - chrism Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 1, 2009 Report Share Posted August 1, 2009 --- On Sat, 1/8/09, shrikant phule <shrikantphule wrote: shrikant phule <shrikantphuleFw: RE: What happens to the kundalini when you transcend?thakargajananDate: Saturday, 1 August, 2009, 12:12 PM --- On Fri, 31/7/09, shrikant phule <shrikantphule wrote: shrikant phule <shrikantphuleRE: What happens to the kundalini when you transcend?"robertfeb" <robertfebFriday, 31 July, 2009, 7:22 PM Good pronounciation,command of language,exegetical skill & learning are for delectation of the learned & not for obtaining liberation.liberation can not be achieved except by direct perception of the individual with the universal self.liberation can not be obtained by yoga/speculative philosophy/religious ceremony/mere learning/discussions/japa/tapa/pranayama/giving of alms.the nature of the one reality must be known by one's own clear spiritual perception not through learned man.shraddha(faith) devotion,meditation are only tools which brings about emancipation only if almighty accepts you.Now to your honest querry.As long as you are in this physical body kundalini is in you whether u are transcemd stage or not.It is like air in a pot & air out side the pot. Air is the same. When pot/physical body is destroyed air in the pot merges with air outside.similarly k & soul are one with the supreme after liberation.when u are one with supreme kundalini need not assist u. Those siddhas who wish to appear from different dimension to this plane can retain k power with them & not who are dead or are going to reincarnate to learn new lessons.will to take +ve action is property of intellect which is near soul. Mind cant decide.k resides in different chakras in different persons depending on their karma.There are yogis whose k can remain in crown chakra as they are in turyaga state.In persons of animal stage it is in root & sacral chakra.(shrikant)Robert wrote: > > What happens to the kundalini when you transcend? Does it remain with the soul? Is it classified as a physical element or as a spiritual element? Does it continue to "assist you" in the post life stage? Can you, do you continue to nourish its growth in the post life episode? Does it remain with the soul, incarnation to incarnation or does it only appear on this plane, if so does it attach/appear when the person comes out of the womb or into it? > Apparently, what I understand is that we all have it - on this plane, but it is not awakened until we take positive action.. Although it is a part of us, it is separated from us. (All these paradoxes in life????? It seems like everything that is valuable is a paradox, doesn't it.) > It awakens on its own through spiritual growth or you can activate it by doing something specifically to activate it - is this correct? How much does it grow, or how big, or whatever. I suppose some people have more than others. What makes it become more? What happens to the person who has more of it, does it give him more insight, or what? > While meditating I began to go places, without my knowledge. Soon I began to notice "sensations, feelings" which were not normal, and not there before I began my meditation and new lifestyle, and found them to be associated with the kundalini. I've always heard about it but never thought I "had any", or thought mine was not/had not been awakened. > While meditating and venturing out of body, I would feel these "earthquakes" , or while sitting still I would have these "creeping feelings" crawling up my back or arms, or something like that. I now do astral projections most efficiently. I don't know if the k force is a result of meditation and astral projections or if the k force is the cause which produces the astral projections, etc. Now, many months later, I don't have these sensations as big or as often. > Is the kundalini with everyone who mediates and do advanced spiritual learning's? Can the k force be with the mundane, cardinal person? > My experience has only been less than two years. My girlfriend had a heart attack in our back yard and I laid with her on the ground until the paramedics came. She never returned. I feel that when "the angel of death" came around, he scooped up the whole package, me included, and my DNA was changed and I became a new entity – my life certainly did make a radical change from then on. Since than I began a new life style associated with meditation and OBE's, and of course with the Kundalini. I'm learning a lot about it but these few lingering questions are still persisting.. . Thanks, and many blessings. Robert from Columbus Ohio. > recommends that you upgrade to the new and safer Internet Explorer 8. http://downloads./in/internetexplorer/ recommends that you upgrade to the new and safer Internet Explorer 8. See the Web's breaking stories, chosen by people like you. Check out Buzz. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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