Guest guest Posted August 1, 2009 Report Share Posted August 1, 2009 Thanks shrikant, that was very helpful in how you describe all that. Blessings, Linda , shrikant phule <shrikantphule wrote: > > > > --- On Sat, 1/8/09, shrikant phule <shrikantphule wrote: > > > shrikant phule <shrikantphule > Fw: RE: What happens to the kundalini when you transcend? > thakargajanan > Saturday, 1 August, 2009, 12:12 PM > > --- On Fri, 31/7/09, shrikant phule <shrikantphule wrote: > > > shrikant phule <shrikantphule > RE: What happens to the kundalini when you transcend? > " robertfeb " <robertfeb > Friday, 31 July, 2009, 7:22 PM > > > Good pronounciation,command of language,exegetical skill & learning are for delectation of the learned & not for obtaining liberation.liberation can not be achieved except by direct perception of the individual with the universal self.liberation can not be obtained by yoga/speculative philosophy/religious ceremony/mere learning/discussions/japa/tapa/pranayama/giving of alms.the nature of the one reality must be known by one's own clear spiritual perception not through learned man.shraddha(faith) devotion,meditation are only tools which brings about emancipation only if almighty accepts you. > Now to your honest querry. > As long as you are in this physical body kundalini is in you whether u are transcemd stage or not. > It is like air in a pot & air out side the pot. Air is the same. When pot/physical body is destroyed air in the pot merges with air outside.similarly k & soul are one with the supreme after liberation.when u are one with supreme kundalini need not assist u. Those siddhas who wish to appear from different dimension to this plane can retain k power with them & not who are dead or are going to reincarnate to learn new lessons.will to take +ve action is property of intellect which is near soul. Mind cant decide.k resides in different chakras in different persons depending on their karma. > There are yogis whose k can remain in crown chakra as they are in turyaga state. > In persons of animal stage it is in root & sacral chakra > ..(shrikant) > > Robert wrote: > > > >           What happens to the kundalini when you transcend? Does it remain with the soul? Is it classified as a physical element or as a spiritual element? Does it continue to " assist you " in the post life stage? Can you, do you continue to nourish its growth in the post life episode? Does it remain with the soul, incarnation to incarnation or does it only appear on this plane, if so does it attach/appear when the person comes out of the womb or into it? > > Apparently, what I understand is that we all have it - on this plane, but it is not awakened until we take positive action. Although it is a part of us, it is separated from us. (All these paradoxes in life????? It seems like everything that is valuable is a paradox, doesn't it.) > > It awakens on its own through spiritual growth or you can activate it by doing something specifically to activate it - is this correct? How much does it grow, or how big, or whatever. I suppose some people have more than others. What makes it become more? What happens to the person who has more of it, does it give him more insight, or what? > > While meditating I began to go places, without my knowledge. Soon I began to notice " sensations, feelings " which were not normal, and not there before I began my meditation and new lifestyle, and found them to be associated with the kundalini. I've always heard about it but never thought I " had any " , or thought mine was not/had not been awakened. > > While meditating and venturing out of body, I would feel these " earthquakes " , or while sitting still I would have these " creeping feelings " crawling up my back or arms, or something like that. I now do astral projections most efficiently. I don't know if the k force is a result of meditation and astral projections or if the k force is the cause which produces the astral projections, etc. Now, many months later, I don't have these sensations as big or as often. > > Is the kundalini with everyone who mediates and do advanced spiritual learning's? Can the k force be with the mundane, cardinal person? > > My experience has only been less than two years. My girlfriend had a heart attack in our back yard and I laid with her on the ground until the paramedics came. She never returned. I feel that when " the angel of death " came around, he scooped up the whole package, me included, and my DNA was changed and I became a new entity †" my life certainly did make a radical change from then on. Since than I began a new life style associated with meditation and OBE's, and of course with the Kundalini. I'm learning a lot about it but these few lingering questions are still persisting.. . Thanks, and many blessings. Robert from Columbus Ohio. > >    > > > >    recommends that you upgrade to the new and safer Internet Explorer 8. http://downloads./in/internetexplorer/ > > > > recommends that you upgrade to the new and safer Internet Explorer 8.. > > > recommends that you upgrade to the new and safer Internet Explorer 8. http://downloads./in/internetexplorer/ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 6, 2009 Report Share Posted August 6, 2009 Hey, thank you all for all of your wonderful words of wisdom and replies... My computer is getting worked on and Im changing my provider, so Im not on line much and wont be for another week. I apologize for not responding sooner, but thank you all, your information is something I surely will be digesting over the next week..Robert from Columbus Ohio , shrikant phule <shrikantphule wrote: > > > > --- On Sat, 1/8/09, shrikant phule <shrikantphule wrote: > > > shrikant phule <shrikantphule > Fw: RE: What happens to the kundalini when you transcend? > thakargajanan > Saturday, 1 August, 2009, 12:12 PM > > --- On Fri, 31/7/09, shrikant phule <shrikantphule wrote: > > > shrikant phule <shrikantphule > RE: What happens to the kundalini when you transcend? > " robertfeb " <robertfeb > Friday, 31 July, 2009, 7:22 PM > > > Good pronounciation,command of language,exegetical skill & learning are for delectation of the learned & not for obtaining liberation.liberation can not be achieved except by direct perception of the individual with the universal self.liberation can not be obtained by yoga/speculative philosophy/religious ceremony/mere learning/discussions/japa/tapa/pranayama/giving of alms.the nature of the one reality must be known by one's own clear spiritual perception not through learned man.shraddha(faith) devotion,meditation are only tools which brings about emancipation only if almighty accepts you. > Now to your honest querry. > As long as you are in this physical body kundalini is in you whether u are transcemd stage or not. > It is like air in a pot & air out side the pot. Air is the same. When pot/physical body is destroyed air in the pot merges with air outside.similarly k & soul are one with the supreme after liberation.when u are one with supreme kundalini need not assist u. Those siddhas who wish to appear from different dimension to this plane can retain k power with them & not who are dead or are going to reincarnate to learn new lessons.will to take +ve action is property of intellect which is near soul. Mind cant decide.k resides in different chakras in different persons depending on their karma. > There are yogis whose k can remain in crown chakra as they are in turyaga state. > In persons of animal stage it is in root & sacral chakra > ..(shrikant) > > Robert wrote: > > > >           What happens to the kundalini when you transcend? Does it remain with the soul? Is it classified as a physical element or as a spiritual element? Does it continue to " assist you " in the post life stage? Can you, do you continue to nourish its growth in the post life episode? Does it remain with the soul, incarnation to incarnation or does it only appear on this plane, if so does it attach/appear when the person comes out of the womb or into it? > > Apparently, what I understand is that we all have it - on this plane, but it is not awakened until we take positive action. Although it is a part of us, it is separated from us. (All these paradoxes in life????? It seems like everything that is valuable is a paradox, doesn't it.) > > It awakens on its own through spiritual growth or you can activate it by doing something specifically to activate it - is this correct? How much does it grow, or how big, or whatever. I suppose some people have more than others. What makes it become more? What happens to the person who has more of it, does it give him more insight, or what? > > While meditating I began to go places, without my knowledge. Soon I began to notice " sensations, feelings " which were not normal, and not there before I began my meditation and new lifestyle, and found them to be associated with the kundalini. I've always heard about it but never thought I " had any " , or thought mine was not/had not been awakened. > > While meditating and venturing out of body, I would feel these " earthquakes " , or while sitting still I would have these " creeping feelings " crawling up my back or arms, or something like that. I now do astral projections most efficiently. I don't know if the k force is a result of meditation and astral projections or if the k force is the cause which produces the astral projections, etc. Now, many months later, I don't have these sensations as big or as often. > > Is the kundalini with everyone who mediates and do advanced spiritual learning's? Can the k force be with the mundane, cardinal person? > > My experience has only been less than two years. My girlfriend had a heart attack in our back yard and I laid with her on the ground until the paramedics came. She never returned. I feel that when " the angel of death " came around, he scooped up the whole package, me included, and my DNA was changed and I became a new entity †" my life certainly did make a radical change from then on. Since than I began a new life style associated with meditation and OBE's, and of course with the Kundalini. I'm learning a lot about it but these few lingering questions are still persisting.. . Thanks, and many blessings. Robert from Columbus Ohio. > >    > > > >    recommends that you upgrade to the new and safer Internet Explorer 8. http://downloads./in/internetexplorer/ > > > > recommends that you upgrade to the new and safer Internet Explorer 8.. > > > recommends that you upgrade to the new and safer Internet Explorer 8. http://downloads./in/internetexplorer/ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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