Guest guest Posted August 3, 2009 Report Share Posted August 3, 2009 , " ordinarysparrow " <ordinarysparrow wrote: > > Namaste > > dear Linda > > Oh Sister i have book suggestion for you. . . .have you heard of Madame > Jeanne Guyon? From what you have shared here think you would truly > love her writings. . . . > > " She was born in south central France in the mid1600's. She was placed > in prison for her writings because of her progressive writings of the > direct relationship with God. . . . " The influence of Madame Guyon has > never wavered with the passing of centuries. Her writings have > influenced movements such as the Moravians, the Quakers, the Methodist > and the Little Flock. Leaders such as Wesley, Penn-lewis, Zizendorp, > Judson and Nee have lauded some of her writings as among the best ever > penned by a Christian, and have testified to her influence in their > lives. 300 years later she is still one of the most influential people > in the lives of those who seek a deeper relationship to Jesus Christ. " > > Linda i have read three of her books and i think it is K Ma expressing > through the language of Christianity. . .of all the books i have known, > her stages of the beginning relationship to union with God are most > illuminating and validating for the deeper emotional/spiritual stages > and process . . .i think if you where to read her books you would > find illuminated the private writings of Mother Theresa and the depth of > the Dark Night of the Soul and what is taking place at the deeper > spiritual level during those times. . . .There are many that have > written about the Dark Night, but Guyon goes deeper and explains what is > expressing intrapersonally and impersonally during those times. . . > .for myself i often return to her little books, for whatever > comes, she has helped in finding a " and this too " . . . " and this too " . .. > . . " and this too " . . . > > the three books i have read are; > > 1. Experiencing the Depths of Jesus Christ > 2. Spiritual Torrents > 3. Union with God > > Linda will copy a little from one of the books that speaks of the Dark > Night and Guyon says there are a number of stages after Dark Night > before the Union with God and they it is a gradual process for many. . .. > > " . . . .all the past progress is deprived both inward and outward. . . as > they depart , you lose all joy within; there is a sense of inward loss. > I would like to point out that this is not a real loss in your spirit. > The loss is only in your consciousness.. . . .But from your viewpoint, > there seems to be no apparent activity deep within you. The presence of > your spirit is imperceptible to you. . .and the Lord who is there in > your spirit is also imperceptible to you. . .Please know, this is > necessary that the reality of your spirit be hidden. . . .You ask > yourself again and again, Why has this desolation come upon me and why > was it necessary? The whole object of the journey, thus far, has been to > take you first from outward ways to the singleness of heart; then > second, to sensing the realm of the spirit within you; and third, to ane > awareness of the loss of the sense of the presence of your spirit. > Finally, there comes a painful awareness of the loss of everything. . .. > > Perhaps it could be stated differently. The course begins vigorously in > the realm of the seen. This seeing the seen and not seeing the unseen > is a state every believer begins in, regardless of the singleness of his > heart. Next, you leave the realm of the seen and are introduced to the > unseen, spiritual realms where we live by faith are are nourished by > love. Later, you leave that spiritual level and enter into naked faith. > Here you are left dead to all spiritual experiences. It is at this > juncture in your life that you die to yourself. Having then died to > yourself, you pass into God. It is from this point that one lives from > the life of God alone. > > . . . .you have also lost the ability to be keenly conscious. . .You are > entirely stripped, and gradually you lose not only everything buy you > also lose yourself. . . .You now find yourself stripped, without mercy, > of everything within and without. You seem to have lost all that meant > anything to your outward nature and all that was of any value to your > inward nature What s seemingly unchristian state for a Christian to be > in. Nonetheless, the pilgrimage is by not means at its (seemingly) > lowest point. . . " > > PHEW!. . .Linda i will stop there, but it goes on from there, and this > is where i think like you do that Mother Theresa was > expressing a long Dark Night in her private journals. . . i > have experienced enough of the process there is a deep knowing the > spiritual journey is a process, and it is nice when the bunnies and > fairies abound but those can turn into mere sadistic mirages while in > the desert lands. . . when i read Mother Theressa's private writings once > again could not interpret it as the world does that she was an atheist > and something was " wrong " with her faith, rather i saw raw " naked faith " > the kept going through the " worst " of divine grace. . .and once again it > was not about what was " wrong " with her or her faith but rather was > so very " right " , so beautifully tender. . . . another kind of tears i do not > have words for. . . . > > and want to honor what Tiffany was bringing forth in her self > examination. . .i was a bit more base at one place concerning Mother > Theresa and the K Ma awakening. . . went on a loop where i was angry > that the only real spiritual examples that the Western world held up for the > Sacred Feminine was Mother Theresa and Mother Mother, and if i would of > known Amma during those years would of added her to the list. . .Why do > pure spiritual women have to be extreme poverty, sacrifice, suffering, > and NO S & X? never found any good answers for that question, but it does > seem important these days. . .i just now look at all three of them and > say; " Mamma i love you, just the way you are " . . . .it is all good that > holds the dance of light and dark. . .and so are we trying to be there. > . . it took a while to come to the place where i could grasp that light and dark are always there within and without, and in bringing it to surface there is choice and one is able to transcend the dense and negative, and it is all good as the two work together to bring about the Truth of who we really are. . . .for me the yin/yang symbol expresses everything i need to know energetically. . .we transcend by fully embodying the light and dark, but after living it long enough we realize it can all be contain and balanced and with balance move to the circle that contains the duality rather than living the duality. . . ..Now long ago a group of prominent Native American elders were asked what does the world need the most? Everyone of them answered; HONOR. . .. .if our world is going to survive we must bring forth honor. . . .I could not grasp the concept of Honor until i learned to identify with the circle that holds all dualities, rather than the action of duality. .. .for me that is what K Ma has been teaching from every angle and have proven to be a slow learned but She has Her ways of getting us to the circle of One. . . during that phase i was also mad at Superman. . .but now forget what is was that had me bent. . . i think Tiffany is much further along with her questions than i was with the Mother Theresa and Superman questions. . . and just for a chuckle don't think it upset Mother Theresa was upset; for when K Ma was throwing the tongues and the mortal fire of it was Mother Theresa that came and cooled with her gentle love and compassion for those many days. . .lol! whether she is truly working from that realm or only a projection that was in my own mind, she is one tough and yet so very soft real woman in the heart these days. . . love and peace ordinary sparrow > , " Linda " > crazycats711@ wrote: > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 3, 2009 Report Share Posted August 3, 2009 Thank you, Sparrow. I do still see the outer workings of God in my life, but the inner relationship I had with Jesus is not as it was in the beginning. I know Jesus and the Holy Spirt are still there by faith only. I still pray and act on that faith for I was told He would never leave me. I do not see myself as alone or lacking joy completely (esp. since I have been here practicing the safeties - inner joy) even with the way it is with me now, so don't think what I am experiencing is the dark night of soul (except for maybe that one year or so of hell I went through before finding my way here ... maybe a testing of my faith... at least not so like Mother Teresa experienced it. After all, I do have all this outward and inner phenomena with kundalini happening. From the article I posted, it appears Mother Teresa's suffering and pain was an answer to a prayer. Excerpt: @@@ Teresa told her nuns that physical poverty ensured empathy in " giving themselves " to the suffering poor and established a stronger bond with Christ's redemptive agony. She wrote in 1951 that the Passion was the only aspect of Jesus' life that she was interested in sharing: " I want to ... drink ONLY [her emphasis] from His chalice of pain. " And so she did, although by all indications not in a way she had expected. @@@ Sparrow, thanks for the book recomends. They sound like they would be good ones to read. Love & blessings, Linda , " ordinarysparrow " <ordinarysparrow wrote: > > , " ordinarysparrow " > <ordinarysparrow@> wrote: > > > > Namaste > > > > dear Linda > > > > Oh Sister i have book suggestion for you. . . .have you heard of > Madame > > Jeanne Guyon? From what you have shared here think you would truly > > love her writings. . . . > > > > " She was born in south central France in the mid1600's. She was > placed > > in prison for her writings because of her progressive writings of the > > direct relationship with God. . . . " The influence of Madame Guyon has > > never wavered with the passing of centuries. Her writings have > > influenced movements such as the Moravians, the Quakers, the Methodist > > and the Little Flock. Leaders such as Wesley, Penn-lewis, Zizendorp, > > Judson and Nee have lauded some of her writings as among the best ever > > penned by a Christian, and have testified to her influence in their > > lives. 300 years later she is still one of the most influential > people > > in the lives of those who seek a deeper relationship to Jesus Christ. " > > > > Linda i have read three of her books and i think it is K Ma > expressing > > through the language of Christianity. . .of all the books i have > known, > > her stages of the beginning relationship to union with God are most > > illuminating and validating for the deeper emotional/spiritual stages > > and process . . .i think if you where to read her books you would > > find illuminated the private writings of Mother Theresa and the depth > of > > the Dark Night of the Soul and what is taking place at the deeper > > spiritual level during those times. . . .There are many that have > > written about the Dark Night, but Guyon goes deeper and explains what > is > > expressing intrapersonally and impersonally during those times. . . > > .for myself i often return to her little books, for whatever > > comes, she has helped in finding a " and this too " . . . " and this too " . > . > > . . " and this too " . . . > > > > the three books i have read are; > > > > 1. Experiencing the Depths of Jesus Christ > > 2. Spiritual Torrents > > 3. Union with God > > > > Linda will copy a little from one of the books that speaks of the > Dark > > Night and Guyon says there are a number of stages after Dark Night > > before the Union with God and they it is a gradual process for many. . > . > > > > " . . . .all the past progress is deprived both inward and outward. . . > as > > they depart , you lose all joy within; there is a sense of inward > loss. > > I would like to point out that this is not a real loss in your spirit. > > The loss is only in your consciousness.. . . .But from your viewpoint, > > there seems to be no apparent activity deep within you. The presence > of > > your spirit is imperceptible to you. . .and the Lord who is there in > > your spirit is also imperceptible to you. . .Please know, this is > > necessary that the reality of your spirit be hidden. . . .You ask > > yourself again and again, Why has this desolation come upon me and why > > was it necessary? The whole object of the journey, thus far, has been > to > > take you first from outward ways to the singleness of heart; then > > second, to sensing the realm of the spirit within you; and third, to > ane > > awareness of the loss of the sense of the presence of your spirit. > > Finally, there comes a painful awareness of the loss of everything. . > . > > > > Perhaps it could be stated differently. The course begins vigorously > in > > the realm of the seen. This seeing the seen and not seeing the unseen > > is a state every believer begins in, regardless of the singleness of > his > > heart. Next, you leave the realm of the seen and are introduced to > the > > unseen, spiritual realms where we live by faith are are nourished by > > love. Later, you leave that spiritual level and enter into naked > faith. > > Here you are left dead to all spiritual experiences. It is at this > > juncture in your life that you die to yourself. Having then died to > > yourself, you pass into God. It is from this point that one lives > from > > the life of God alone. > > > > . . . .you have also lost the ability to be keenly conscious. . .You > are > > entirely stripped, and gradually you lose not only everything buy you > > also lose yourself. . . .You now find yourself stripped, without > mercy, > > of everything within and without. You seem to have lost all that > meant > > anything to your outward nature and all that was of any value to your > > inward nature What s seemingly unchristian state for a Christian to > be > > in. Nonetheless, the pilgrimage is by not means at its (seemingly) > > lowest point. . . " > > > > PHEW!. . .Linda i will stop there, but it goes on from there, and this > > is where i think like you do that Mother Theresa was > > expressing a long Dark Night in her private journals. . . i > > have experienced enough of the process there is a deep knowing the > > spiritual journey is a process, and it is nice when the bunnies and > > fairies abound but those can turn into mere sadistic mirages while in > > the desert lands. . . when i read Mother Theressa's private writings > once > > again could not interpret it as the world does that she was an > atheist > > and something was " wrong " with her faith, rather i saw raw " naked > faith " > > the kept going through the " worst " of divine grace. . .and once again > it > > was not about what was " wrong " with her or her faith but rather was > > so very " right " , so beautifully tender. . . . another kind of tears i > do not > > have words for. . . . > > > > and want to honor what Tiffany was bringing forth in her self > > examination. . .i was a bit more base at one place concerning Mother > > Theresa and the K Ma awakening. . . went on a loop where i was angry > > that the only real spiritual examples that the Western world held up > for the > > Sacred Feminine was Mother Theresa and Mother Mother, and if i would > of > > known Amma during those years would of added her to the list. . .Why > do > > pure spiritual women have to be extreme poverty, sacrifice, > suffering, > > and NO S & X? never found any good answers for that question, but it > does > > seem important these days. . .i just now look at all three of them and > > say; " Mamma i love you, just the way you are " . . . .it is all good > that > > holds the dance of light and dark. . .and so are we trying to be > there. > > . . it took a while to come to the place where i could grasp that > light and dark are always there within and without, and in bringing it > to surface there is choice and one is able to transcend the dense and > negative, and it is all good as the two work together to bring about the > Truth of who we really are. . . .for me the yin/yang symbol expresses > everything i need to know energetically. . .we transcend by fully > embodying the light and dark, but after living it long enough we > realize it can all be contain and balanced and with balance move to > the circle that contains the duality rather than living the duality. . . > .Now long ago a group of prominent Native American elders were asked > what does the world need the most? Everyone of them answered; HONOR. . > . .if our world is going to survive we must bring forth honor. . . .I > could not grasp the concept of Honor until i learned to identify with > the circle that holds all dualities, rather than the action of duality. > . .for me that is what K Ma has been teaching from every angle and have > proven to be a slow learned but She has Her ways of getting us to the > circle of One. . . > > during that phase i was also mad at Superman. . .but now forget what > is was that had me bent. . . i think Tiffany is much further along with > her questions than i was with the Mother Theresa and Superman > questions. > . . and just for a chuckle don't think it upset Mother Theresa was > upset; for when K Ma was throwing the tongues and the mortal fire of > it was Mother Theresa that came and cooled with her gentle love and > compassion for those many days. . .lol! whether she is truly working > from that realm or only a projection that was in my own mind, she is > one > tough and yet so very soft real woman in the heart these days. . . > > love and peace > ordinary sparrow > > > > > , " Linda " > > crazycats711@ wrote: > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 3, 2009 Report Share Posted August 3, 2009 Linda, dear child.............He never leaves you........you choose...........connect or be disconnected..........electricity........plug in............let's all begin to look at 9/9/2009...........shall we?? it is a very significant date.........possibly the opening that is manufactured by civilization................proton/proton...........namaste dear children..................Julie--- On Mon, 8/3/09, Linda <crazycats711 wrote:Linda <crazycats711 Re: The Shadow....resubmitTo: Date: Monday, August 3, 2009, 4:57 PM Thank you, Sparrow. I do still see the outer workings of God in my life, but the inner relationship I had with Jesus is not as it was in the beginning. I know Jesus and the Holy Spirt are still there by faith only. I still pray and act on that faith for I was told He would never leave me. I do not see myself as alone or lacking joy completely (esp. since I have been here practicing the safeties - inner joy) even with the way it is with me now, so don't think what I am experiencing is the dark night of soul (except for maybe that one year or so of hell I went through before finding my way here ... maybe a testing of my faith... at least not so like Mother Teresa experienced it. After all, I do have all this outward and inner phenomena with kundalini happening. From the article I posted, it appears Mother Teresa's suffering and pain was an answer to a prayer. Excerpt: @@@ Teresa told her nuns that physical poverty ensured empathy in "giving themselves" to the suffering poor and established a stronger bond with Christ's redemptive agony. She wrote in 1951 that the Passion was the only aspect of Jesus' life that she was interested in sharing: "I want to ... drink ONLY [her emphasis] from His chalice of pain." And so she did, although by all indications not in a way she had expected. @@@ Sparrow, thanks for the book recomends. They sound like they would be good ones to read. Love & blessings, Linda Kundalini-Awakening -Systems- 1 , "ordinarysparrow" <ordinarysparrow@ ...> wrote: > > Kundalini-Awakening -Systems- 1 , "ordinarysparrow" > <ordinarysparrow@ > wrote: > > > > Namaste > > > > dear Linda > > > > Oh Sister i have book suggestion for you. . . .have you heard of > Madame > > Jeanne Guyon? From what you have shared here think you would truly > > love her writings. . . . > > > > " She was born in south central France in the mid1600's. She was > placed > > in prison for her writings because of her progressive writings of the > > direct relationship with God. . . ." The influence of Madame Guyon has > > never wavered with the passing of centuries. Her writings have > > influenced movements such as the Moravians, the Quakers, the Methodist > > and the Little Flock. Leaders such as Wesley, Penn-lewis, Zizendorp, > > Judson and Nee have lauded some of her writings as among the best ever > > penned by a Christian, and have testified to her influence in their > > lives. 300 years later she is still one of the most influential > people > > in the lives of those who seek a deeper relationship to Jesus Christ." > > > > Linda i have read three of her books and i think it is K Ma > expressing > > through the language of Christianity. . .of all the books i have > known, > > her stages of the beginning relationship to union with God are most > > illuminating and validating for the deeper emotional/spiritual stages > > and process . . .i think if you where to read her books you would > > find illuminated the private writings of Mother Theresa and the depth > of > > the Dark Night of the Soul and what is taking place at the deeper > > spiritual level during those times. . . .There are many that have > > written about the Dark Night, but Guyon goes deeper and explains what > is > > expressing intrapersonally and impersonally during those times. . . > > .for myself i often return to her little books, for whatever > > comes, she has helped in finding a "and this too". . ."and this too". > . > > . ."and this too". . . > > > > the three books i have read are; > > > > 1. Experiencing the Depths of Jesus Christ > > 2. Spiritual Torrents > > 3. Union with God > > > > Linda will copy a little from one of the books that speaks of the > Dark > > Night and Guyon says there are a number of stages after Dark Night > > before the Union with God and they it is a gradual process for many. . > . > > > >" . . . .all the past progress is deprived both inward and outward. . . > as > > they depart , you lose all joy within; there is a sense of inward > loss. > > I would like to point out that this is not a real loss in your spirit. > > The loss is only in your consciousness. . . . .But from your viewpoint, > > there seems to be no apparent activity deep within you. The presence > of > > your spirit is imperceptible to you. . .and the Lord who is there in > > your spirit is also imperceptible to you. . .Please know, this is > > necessary that the reality of your spirit be hidden. . . .You ask > > yourself again and again, Why has this desolation come upon me and why > > was it necessary? The whole object of the journey, thus far, has been > to > > take you first from outward ways to the singleness of heart; then > > second, to sensing the realm of the spirit within you; and third, to > ane > > awareness of the loss of the sense of the presence of your spirit. > > Finally, there comes a painful awareness of the loss of everything. . > . > > > > Perhaps it could be stated differently. The course begins vigorously > in > > the realm of the seen. This seeing the seen and not seeing the unseen > > is a state every believer begins in, regardless of the singleness of > his > > heart. Next, you leave the realm of the seen and are introduced to > the > > unseen, spiritual realms where we live by faith are are nourished by > > love. Later, you leave that spiritual level and enter into naked > faith. > > Here you are left dead to all spiritual experiences. It is at this > > juncture in your life that you die to yourself. Having then died to > > yourself, you pass into God. It is from this point that one lives > from > > the life of God alone. > > > > . . . .you have also lost the ability to be keenly conscious. . .You > are > > entirely stripped, and gradually you lose not only everything buy you > > also lose yourself. . . .You now find yourself stripped, without > mercy, > > of everything within and without. You seem to have lost all that > meant > > anything to your outward nature and all that was of any value to your > > inward nature What s seemingly unchristian state for a Christian to > be > > in. Nonetheless, the pilgrimage is by not means at its (seemingly) > > lowest point. . . " > > > > PHEW!. . .Linda i will stop there, but it goes on from there, and this > > is where i think like you do that Mother Theresa was > > expressing a long Dark Night in her private journals. . . i > > have experienced enough of the process there is a deep knowing the > > spiritual journey is a process, and it is nice when the bunnies and > > fairies abound but those can turn into mere sadistic mirages while in > > the desert lands. . . when i read Mother Theressa's private writings > once > > again could not interpret it as the world does that she was an > atheist > > and something was "wrong"with her faith, rather i saw raw "naked > faith" > > the kept going through the "worst" of divine grace. . .and once again > it > > was not about what was "wrong" with her or her faith but rather was > > so very "right", so beautifully tender. . . . another kind of tears i > do not > > have words for. . . . > > > > and want to honor what Tiffany was bringing forth in her self > > examination. . .i was a bit more base at one place concerning Mother > > Theresa and the K Ma awakening. . . went on a loop where i was angry > > that the only real spiritual examples that the Western world held up > for the > > Sacred Feminine was Mother Theresa and Mother Mother, and if i would > of > > known Amma during those years would of added her to the list. . .Why > do > > pure spiritual women have to be extreme poverty, sacrifice, > suffering, > > and NO S & X? never found any good answers for that question, but it > does > > seem important these days. . .i just now look at all three of them and > > say; "Mamma i love you, just the way you are". . . .it is all good > that > > holds the dance of light and dark. . .and so are we trying to be > there. > > . . it took a while to come to the place where i could grasp that > light and dark are always there within and without, and in bringing it > to surface there is choice and one is able to transcend the dense and > negative, and it is all good as the two work together to bring about the > Truth of who we really are. . . .for me the yin/yang symbol expresses > everything i need to know energetically. . .we transcend by fully > embodying the light and dark, but after living it long enough we > realize it can all be contain and balanced and with balance move to > the circle that contains the duality rather than living the duality. . . > .Now long ago a group of prominent Native American elders were asked > what does the world need the most? Everyone of them answered; HONOR. . > . .if our world is going to survive we must bring forth honor. . . .I > could not grasp the concept of Honor until i learned to identify with > the circle that holds all dualities, rather than the action of duality. > . .for me that is what K Ma has been teaching from every angle and have > proven to be a slow learned but She has Her ways of getting us to the > circle of One. . . > > during that phase i was also mad at Superman. . .but now forget what > is was that had me bent. . . i think Tiffany is much further along with > her questions than i was with the Mother Theresa and Superman > questions. > . . and just for a chuckle don't think it upset Mother Theresa was > upset; for when K Ma was throwing the tongues and the mortal fire of > it was Mother Theresa that came and cooled with her gentle love and > compassion for those many days. . .lol! whether she is truly working > from that realm or only a projection that was in my own mind, she is > one > tough and yet so very soft real woman in the heart these days. . . > > love and peace > ordinary sparrow > > > > > Kundalini-Awakening -Systems- 1 , "Linda" > > crazycats711@ wrote: > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 3, 2009 Report Share Posted August 3, 2009 Thanks Julie. I guess I need to find where the dang plug is. I don't exactly feel disconnected, maybe just missed place. Or maybe the cord is just old and too much static and I am not hearing so well. I just really miss what I once had, but things are always changing and you can only go with the flow and hope for the better. I was wondering where they came up with the nine, since the eclispe will be on the 6th.... isn't it? I thought it was Aug. 9th the stargate is suppose to be wide open. You have it as Sept. 9th. Is something else going to be going on next month too? The first elcipse was July 9th wasn't it? On the solar eclipse (21st or 22nd) did any of you have problems with your cell phones not working so good? Even land lines were having problems for me here in Texas. Linda , Julie <jewelport wrote: > > Linda, dear child............. > > He never leaves you........you choose...........connect or be disconnected..........electricity........plug in............let's all begin to look at 9/9/2009...........shall we?? it is a very significant date.........possibly the opening that is manufactured by civilization................proton/proton........... > > namaste dear children.................. > > Julie > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 4, 2009 Report Share Posted August 4, 2009 Linda love,Nothing to do with an eclipse....This is just a feeling I am getting.........9/9/2009, perhaps to do with Geneva, Switzerland.......I'm crazy.......takes one to know one, crazycatsJulie--- On Mon, 8/3/09, Linda <crazycats711 wrote:Linda <crazycats711 Re: The Shadow....resubmit Date: Monday, August 3, 2009, 10:01 PM Thanks Julie. I guess I need to find where the dang plug is. I don't exactly feel disconnected, maybe just missed place. Or maybe the cord is just old and too much static and I am not hearing so well. I just really miss what I once had, but things are always changing and you can only go with the flow and hope for the better. I was wondering where they came up with the nine, since the eclispe will be on the 6th.... isn't it? I thought it was Aug. 9th the stargate is suppose to be wide open. You have it as Sept. 9th. Is something else going to be going on next month too? The first elcipse was July 9th wasn't it? On the solar eclipse (21st or 22nd) did any of you have problems with your cell phones not working so good? Even land lines were having problems for me here in Texas. Linda Kundalini-Awakening -Systems- 1 , Julie <jewelport@. ..> wrote: > > Linda, dear child....... ...... > > He never leaves you........you choose...... .....connect or be disconnected. ......... electricity. .......plug in.......... ..let's all begin to look at 9/9/2009.... .......shall we?? it is a very significant date........ .possibly the opening that is manufactured by civilization. ......... ......proton/ proton... ........ > > namaste dear children.... ......... ..... > > Julie > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 4, 2009 Report Share Posted August 4, 2009 Oh, LOL! then it will be interesting to watch for what ever will be coming up for this date, then. A couple of CraZyCaTs we are. Linda , Julie <jewelport wrote: > > Linda love, > Nothing to do with an eclipse....This is just a feeling I am getting.........9/9/2009, perhaps to do with Geneva, Switzerland....... > > I'm crazy....... > > > takes one to know one, crazycats > > Julie > > --- On Mon, 8/3/09, Linda <crazycats711 wrote: > > Linda <crazycats711 > Re: The Shadow....resubmit > > Monday, August 3, 2009, 10:01 PM > > > > > > Thanks Julie. I guess I need to find where the dang plug is. I don't exactly feel disconnected, maybe just missed place. Or maybe the cord is just old and too much static and I am not hearing so well. I just really miss what I once had, but things are always changing and you can only go with the flow and hope for the better. > > > > I was wondering where they came up with the nine, since the eclispe will be on the 6th.... isn't it? I thought it was Aug. 9th the stargate is suppose to be wide open. You have it as Sept. 9th. Is something else going to be going on next month too? The first elcipse was July 9th wasn't it? On the solar eclipse (21st or 22nd) did any of you have problems with your cell phones not working so good? Even land lines were having problems for me here in Texas. > > > > Linda > > > > Kundalini-Awakening -Systems- 1 , Julie <jewelport@ ..> wrote: > > > > > > Linda, dear child....... ...... > > > > > > He never leaves you........you choose...... .....connect or be disconnected. .......... electricity. .......plug in.......... ..let's all begin to look at 9/9/2009.... .......shall we?? it is a very significant date........ .possibly the opening that is manufactured by civilization. ......... ......proton/ proton... ........ > > > > > > namaste dear children.... ......... ..... > > > > > > Julie > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 5, 2009 Report Share Posted August 5, 2009 Thanks for all this sparrow. I went to an AA convention this past weekend. I love hearing the stories of people who have found a spiritual solution. There was a woman I had particularly wanted to hear whose book really moved me this past year (though its been out for quite a while). Its called The Camel Knows the Way and it is a personal memoir of a woman from New York who went and stayed with Mother Theresa for a period. its about surrender, recovery from alcoholism, dark night of the soul, and love. She is British and has had some medical problems the last two years and has been ultra independent and self-reliant. She talked about service and how her spiritual lesson right now is that service is sometimes allowing others to be there for us. She went on to talk about how she has had to let go of a private life, so many people now have keys to her place, etc. because she has needed so much help. She went on to talk about how Mother Theresa, that in her later life she also had to learn about letting others help her. Interesting talk and ideas about service. Love and blessings, Jan , " ordinarysparrow " <ordinarysparrow wrote: > > , " ordinarysparrow " > <ordinarysparrow@> wrote: > > > > Namaste > > > > dear Linda > > > > Oh Sister i have book suggestion for you. . . .have you heard of > Madame > > Jeanne Guyon? From what you have shared here think you would truly > > love her writings. . . . > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 5, 2009 Report Share Posted August 5, 2009 Linda, When i had my kundalini energy risen i was at a point where i hated Jesus. And yet i knew he is the most high God and if we follow him and go into where he is or gain christ concioussness we have not lost the way. So i said Jesus i hate you and i have no faith in you but i know you are the only way and make me have faith in you don't let me down... All the troulbes i had with entities are now gone and i have gained my faith i had... If you read the book of revelations It clearly says in the ltters to churches that this time comes where we lose faith in jesus and then we must gain it back. MAJI Treat people as if they were what they ought to be, and you'll help them to become what they are capable of becoming. --- On Mon, 8/3/09, Linda <crazycats711 wrote: Linda <crazycats711 Re: The Shadow....resubmit Date: Monday, August 3, 2009, 2:57 PM Thank you, Sparrow. I do still see the outer workings of God in my life, but the inner relationship I had with Jesus is not as it was in the beginning. I know Jesus and the Holy Spirt are still there by faith only. I still pray and act on that faith for I was told He would never leave me. I do not see myself as alone or lacking joy completely (esp. since I have been here practicing the safeties - inner joy) even with the way it is with me now, so don't think what I am experiencing is the dark night of soul (except for maybe that one year or so of hell I went through before finding my way here ... maybe a testing of my faith... at least not so like Mother Teresa experienced it. After all, I do have all this outward and inner phenomena with kundalini happening. From the article I posted, it appears Mother Teresa's suffering and pain was an answer to a prayer. Excerpt:@@@ Teresa told her nuns that physical poverty ensured empathy in "giving themselves" to the suffering poor and established a stronger bond with Christ's redemptive agony. She wrote in 1951 that the Passion was the only aspect of Jesus' life that she was interested in sharing: "I want to ... drink ONLY [her emphasis] from His chalice of pain." And so she did, although by all indications not in a way she had expected. @@@Sparrow, thanks for the book recomends. They sound like they would be good ones to read. Love & blessings,Linda , "ordinarysparrow" <ordinarysparrow wrote:>> , "ordinarysparrow"> <ordinarysparrow@> wrote:> >> > Namaste> >> > dear Linda> >> > Oh Sister i have book suggestion for you. . . .have you heard of> Madame> > Jeanne Guyon? From what you have shared here think you would truly> > love her writings. . . .> >> > " She was born in south central France in the mid1600's. She was> placed> > in prison for her writings because of her progressive writings of the> > direct relationship with God. . . ." The influence of Madame Guyon has> > never wavered with the passing of centuries. Her writings have> > influenced movements such as the Moravians, the Quakers, the Methodist> > and the Little Flock. Leaders such as Wesley, Penn-lewis, Zizendorp,> > Judson and Nee have lauded some of her writings as among the best ever> > penned by a Christian, and have testified to her influence in their> > lives. 300 years later she is still one of the most influential> people> > in the lives of those who seek a deeper relationship to Jesus Christ."> >> > Linda i have read three of her books and i think it is K Ma> expressing> > through the language of Christianity. . .of all the books i have> known,> > her stages of the beginning relationship to union with God are most> > illuminating and validating for the deeper emotional/spiritual stages> > and process . . .i think if you where to read her books you would> > find illuminated the private writings of Mother Theresa and the depth> of> > the Dark Night of the Soul and what is taking place at the deeper> > spiritual level during those times. . . .There are many that have> > written about the Dark Night, but Guyon goes deeper and explains what> is> > expressing intrapersonally and impersonally during those times. . .> > .for myself i often return to her little books, for whatever> > comes, she has helped in finding a "and this too". . ."and this too".> .> > . ."and this too". . .> >> > the three books i have read are;> >> > 1. Experiencing the Depths of Jesus Christ> > 2. Spiritual Torrents> > 3. Union with God> >> > Linda will copy a little from one of the books that speaks of the> Dark> > Night and Guyon says there are a number of stages after Dark Night> > before the Union with God and they it is a gradual process for many. .> .> >> >" . . . .all the past progress is deprived both inward and outward. . .> as> > they depart , you lose all joy within; there is a sense of inward> loss.> > I would like to point out that this is not a real loss in your spirit.> > The loss is only in your consciousness.. . . .But from your viewpoint,> > there seems to be no apparent activity deep within you. The presence> of> > your spirit is imperceptible to you. . .and the Lord who is there in> > your spirit is also imperceptible to you. . .Please know, this is> > necessary that the reality of your spirit be hidden. . . .You ask> > yourself again and again, Why has this desolation come upon me and why> > was it necessary? The whole object of the journey, thus far, has been> to> > take you first from outward ways to the singleness of heart; then> > second, to sensing the realm of the spirit within you; and third, to> ane> > awareness of the loss of the sense of the presence of your spirit.> > Finally, there comes a painful awareness of the loss of everything. .> .> >> > Perhaps it could be stated differently. The course begins vigorously> in> > the realm of the seen. This seeing the seen and not seeing the unseen> > is a state every believer begins in, regardless of the singleness of> his> > heart. Next, you leave the realm of the seen and are introduced to> the> > unseen, spiritual realms where we live by faith are are nourished by> > love. Later, you leave that spiritual level and enter into naked> faith.> > Here you are left dead to all spiritual experiences. It is at this> > juncture in your life that you die to yourself. Having then died to> > yourself, you pass into God. It is from this point that one lives> from> > the life of God alone.> >> > . . . .you have also lost the ability to be keenly conscious. . .You> are> > entirely stripped, and gradually you lose not only everything buy you> > also lose yourself. . . .You now find yourself stripped, without> mercy,> > of everything within and without. You seem to have lost all that> meant> > anything to your outward nature and all that was of any value to your> > inward nature What s seemingly unchristian state for a Christian to> be> > in. Nonetheless, the pilgrimage is by not means at its (seemingly)> > lowest point. . . "> >> > PHEW!. . .Linda i will stop there, but it goes on from there, and this> > is where i think like you do that Mother Theresa was> > expressing a long Dark Night in her private journals. . . i> > have experienced enough of the process there is a deep knowing the> > spiritual journey is a process, and it is nice when the bunnies and> > fairies abound but those can turn into mere sadistic mirages while in> > the desert lands. . . when i read Mother Theressa's private writings> once> > again could not interpret it as the world does that she was an> atheist> > and something was "wrong"with her faith, rather i saw raw "naked> faith"> > the kept going through the "worst" of divine grace. . .and once again> it> > was not about what was "wrong" with her or her faith but rather was> > so very "right", so beautifully tender. . . . another kind of tears i> do not> > have words for. . . .> >> > and want to honor what Tiffany was bringing forth in her self> > examination. . .i was a bit more base at one place concerning Mother> > Theresa and the K Ma awakening. . . went on a loop where i was angry> > that the only real spiritual examples that the Western world held up> for the> > Sacred Feminine was Mother Theresa and Mother Mother, and if i would> of> > known Amma during those years would of added her to the list. . .Why> do> > pure spiritual women have to be extreme poverty, sacrifice,> suffering,> > and NO S & X? never found any good answers for that question, but it> does> > seem important these days. . .i just now look at all three of them and> > say; "Mamma i love you, just the way you are". . . .it is all good> that> > holds the dance of light and dark. . .and so are we trying to be> there.> > . . it took a while to come to the place where i could grasp that> light and dark are always there within and without, and in bringing it> to surface there is choice and one is able to transcend the dense and> negative, and it is all good as the two work together to bring about the> Truth of who we really are. . . .for me the yin/yang symbol expresses> everything i need to know energetically. . .we transcend by fully> embodying the light and dark, but after living it long enough we> realize it can all be contain and balanced and with balance move to> the circle that contains the duality rather than living the duality. . .> .Now long ago a group of prominent Native American elders were asked> what does the world need the most? Everyone of them answered; HONOR. .> . .if our world is going to survive we must bring forth honor. . . .I> could not grasp the concept of Honor until i learned to identify with> the circle that holds all dualities, rather than the action of duality.> . .for me that is what K Ma has been teaching from every angle and have> proven to be a slow learned but She has Her ways of getting us to the> circle of One. . .> > during that phase i was also mad at Superman. . .but now forget what> is was that had me bent. . . i think Tiffany is much further along with> her questions than i was with the Mother Theresa and Superman> questions.> . . and just for a chuckle don't think it upset Mother Theresa was> upset; for when K Ma was throwing the tongues and the mortal fire of> it was Mother Theresa that came and cooled with her gentle love and> compassion for those many days. . .lol! whether she is truly working> from that realm or only a projection that was in my own mind, she is> one> tough and yet so very soft real woman in the heart these days. . .> > love and peace> ordinary sparrow> > > > > , "Linda"> > crazycats711@ wrote:> >>--- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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