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Beautifully put as always Sparrow =)

 

I love reading your responses!

 

That book actually sounds like something I may even read. I remember when I went

through the dark night of the soul myself. Ironically it was right before my K

awakened.

 

I was in the car with my husband... and I was at a stage (About a year ago)

when I was finally getting rid of the Religion I was raised with. I always held

on to a little piece of it in my mind, but my doubt was so intense that I

wondered what the point was of even holding on to it. I was agnostic before that

point. Thinking... well if there is a god, I could never understand or

comprehend. And if there isn't, then that is what it is. But I still believed in

" something "

 

Suddenly I felt all my faith in a god leave me. I lost all shreds of hope I held

in the darkest corners of my mind. I felt so alone. Angry. Mad that I had to

believe in something so beautiful as a heaven, just to wind up a rotting corpse.

I thought it cruel to play with people like that, with false comforts... and I

fell into a deep depression. As if I lost a dear friend that never existed.

 

After that it turned into emptiness. I am actually grateful for this because it

left me completely open. When my K awakened, I was no longer grasping to

straws... empirical evidence... anything. I could actually trust it because I

knew I was past the mourning and false hope. That I wasn't making myself believe

in something so beautiful in fear that I would cease to exist. The K has opened

my eyes in a way that words cannot relay. Beautiful, true, sharp, painful and

pure.

 

I will have to check out that book dear Sparrow =) Thank you for bringing it to

light.

 

(As far as the Atheist thing... that is a matter of grammar/definition. If

nobody likes that word... please throw in what-ever word suits you best lol.

Nobody knows her heart as she did. Nobody has the right or place to state she

was one way or another. For me that was the term that came to mind... hence

doubt/unbelief=Atheist to me. Either way, the deeds she did are an inspiration

to us all. Regardless of her beliefs or lack thereof. She is beautiful and one

of my heroes!)

 

-Tiffany S

 

 

, " ordinarysparrow "

<ordinarysparrow wrote:

>

> Namaste

>

> dear Linda

>

> Oh Sister i have book suggestion for you. . . .have you heard of Madame

> Jeanne Guyon? from what you have shared here i think you would truly

> love her writings. . . .

>

> " She was born in south central France in the mid1600's. She was placed

> in prison for her writings because of her progressive writings of the

> direct relationship with God. . . . " The influence of Madame Guyon has

> never wavered with the passing of centuries. Her writings have

> influenced movements such as the Moravians, the Quakers, the Methodiest

> and the Little Flock. Leaders such as Wesley, Penn-lewis, Zizendorp,

> Judson and Nee have lauged some of her writings as among the best ever

> penned by a Chrsitian, and have testified to her influence in their

> lives. 300 years later she is still one of the most influenctial people

> in the lives of those who seek a deeper relationship to Jesus Christ. "

>

> Linda i have read three of her books and i think she it K Ma expressing

> through the language of Christanity. . .of all the books i have known,

> her stages of the beginning relationship to union with God are most

> illuminating and validating for the deeper emotional/spiritual stages

> and process . . .i think that if you where to read her books you would

> find illuminated the private writings of Mother Theresa and the depth of

> the Dark Night of the Soul and what is taking place at the deeper

> spiritual level during those times. . . .There are many that have

> written about the Dark Night, but Guyon goes deeper and explains what is

> expressing intra-personally and interpersonally during those times. . .

> .for myself i often return to her little books, for always whatever

> comes, she has helped me to find a " and this too " . . . " and this too " . .

> . . " and this too " . . .

>

> the three books i have read are;

>

> 1. Experiencing the Depths of Jesus Christ

> 2. Spiritual Torrents

> 3. Union with God

>

> Linda i will copy a little from one of the books that speaks of the Dark

> Night and Guyon says there are a number of stages after Dark Night

> before the Union with God and they it is a gradual process for many. . .

>

> . . . .all the past progess is deprived both inward and outward. . . as

> they depart , you lose all joy within; there is a sense of inward loss.

> I would like to point out that this is not a real losss in your spirit.

> The loss is only in your consciousness.. . . .But from your viewpoint,

> there seems to be no apparent activity deep within you. The presence of

> your spirit is impreceptible to you. . .and the Lord who is there in

> your spirit is also impreceptible to you. . .Please know, this is

> necessary that the reality of your spirit be h.idden. . . .You ask

> yourself again and again, Why has this desolation come upon me and why

> was it neessary? The whole object of the journey, thus far, has been to

> take you first from outward ways to the singleness of heart; then

> second, to sensing the realm of the spirit within you; and third, to an

> awareness of the losss of the sense of the presence of your spirit.

> Finally, ther comes a painful awareness of the loss of everything. . .

>

> Perhaps it could be stated differently. The ourse begins vigorously in

> the sealm of the seen. This seeing the seen and not seeing the unseen

> is a stae every believer begins in, regardless of the singleness of his

> heart. Next, you leave the realm of the seen and are introduced to the

> unseen, spiritual realms where we live by faith are are nourished by

> love. Later, you leave that spiritual level and enter into naked faith.

> Here you are left dead to all spiritual experiences. It is at this

> junctture in your life that you die to yourself. Having then died to

> yourself, you pass into God. It is from this point that one lives from

> the life of God alone.

>

> . . . .you have also lost the ability to be keenly conscious. . .You are

> entirely stripped, and gradually you lose not only everything buy you

> also lose yourself. . . .You now find yourself stripped, without mercy,

> of everything within and without. You seem to have lost all that meant

> anything to your outward nature and ll taht was of any value to your

> inward nature What s seemingly unchristian state for a Christain to be

> in. Nonethe less, the pilgrimage is by not means at its (seemingly)

> lowest point. . . "

>

> PHEW!. . .Linda i will stop there, but it goes on from there, and this

> is where i think like you do Linda that dear Mother Theresa was

> expressing a long Dark Night in her private journals. . . because i

> have experienced enough of the process there is a deep knowing that the

> spiritual journey is a process, and it is nice when the bunnies and

> fairies abound but those too turn into mere sadistic mirages while in

> the desert lands. . . when i read Mother Theresa's private writings once

> again could not interpert it as the world does that she was an atheist

> and something was " wrong " with her faith, rather i saw raw " naked faith "

> the kept going through the " worst " of divine grace. . .and once again is

> was not about what was " wrong " with her or her faith but rather was was

> so " right " so beautifully tender. . . . another kind of tears i do not

> have words for. . . .

>

> and want to honor what Tiffany was bringing forth in her self

> examination. . .i was a bit more base at one place concerning Mother

> Theresa and the K Ma awakening. . . went on a loop where i was angry

> that the only real spiritual examples that the world held up for the

> Sared Feminine was Mother Theresa and Mother Mother, and if i would of

> known Amma during those years would of added her to the list. . .Why do

> pure spiriutal women have to be extreme poverty, sacrifice, suffering,

> and NO S & X? never found any good answers for that question, but it

> seem important these days. . .i just now look at all three of them and

> say; " Mamma i love you, just the way you are " . . . .it is all good that

> holds the dance of light and dark. . .and so are we trying to be there.

> . .during that phase i was also mad at Superman. . .but now forget what

> is was that had me bent. . . i think Tiffany is much further along with

> her questions than i was with the Mother Theresa and Superman questions.

> . . and just for a chuckle don't think it upset Mother Theresa was

> upset; for when K Ma was throwing the tongues and the mortal fire of

> it was Mother Theresa that came and cooled with her gentle love and

> compassion for those many days. . .lol! whether she is truly working

> from that realm or only a projection that was in my own mind, she is one

> tough and yet so very soft real woman in the heart these days. . .

>

> love and peace

> ordinary sparrow

>

>

>

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Namaste

 

Ordinary Sparrow

 

I have been reading back over this post from you and was wondering, do you think

the " dark night of soul " experience could be the same as experiencing the abyss

or void? If you remember, I was told while meditating recently that I would need

to experience the abyss for a while. I don't know if I am strong enough for such

as that..

 

I have not read anyone's account of experiencing the dark night of the soul, not

even John of the Cross. Just the little I have pick up here and there. Would

you say the book of Job in the bible, is Job's account of his dark night of the

soul?

 

I have done a search on line for Jeanne Guyon, but I have not been able to find

the 3 books you recommended. I am wondering is these three were written from her

original writings. I have found those on the CCEL website. I looked over the

poems and read some of them. They are great! Thanks Sparrow!

 

Love & blessings,

Linda

 

, " ordinarysparrow "

<ordinarysparrow wrote:

>

> , " ordinarysparrow "

> <ordinarysparrow@> wrote:

> >

> > Namaste

> >

> > dear Linda

> >

> > Oh Sister i have book suggestion for you. . . .have you heard of

> Madame

> > Jeanne Guyon? From what you have shared here think you would truly

> > love her writings. . . .

> >

> > " She was born in south central France in the mid1600's. She was

> placed

> > in prison for her writings because of her progressive writings of the

> > direct relationship with God. . . . " The influence of Madame Guyon has

> > never wavered with the passing of centuries. Her writings have

> > influenced movements such as the Moravians, the Quakers, the Methodist

> > and the Little Flock. Leaders such as Wesley, Penn-lewis, Zizendorp,

> > Judson and Nee have lauded some of her writings as among the best ever

> > penned by a Christian, and have testified to her influence in their

> > lives. 300 years later she is still one of the most influential

> people

> > in the lives of those who seek a deeper relationship to Jesus Christ. "

> >

> > Linda i have read three of her books and i think it is K Ma

> expressing

> > through the language of Christianity. . .of all the books i have

> known,

> > her stages of the beginning relationship to union with God are most

> > illuminating and validating for the deeper emotional/spiritual stages

> > and process . . .i think if you where to read her books you would

> > find illuminated the private writings of Mother Theresa and the depth

> of

> > the Dark Night of the Soul and what is taking place at the deeper

> > spiritual level during those times. . . .There are many that have

> > written about the Dark Night, but Guyon goes deeper and explains what

> is

> > expressing intrapersonally and impersonally during those times. . .

> > .for myself i often return to her little books, for whatever

> > comes, she has helped in finding a " and this too " . . . " and this too " .

> .

> > . . " and this too " . . .

> >

> > the three books i have read are;

> >

> > 1. Experiencing the Depths of Jesus Christ

> > 2. Spiritual Torrents

> > 3. Union with God

> >

> > Linda will copy a little from one of the books that speaks of the

> Dark

> > Night and Guyon says there are a number of stages after Dark Night

> > before the Union with God and they it is a gradual process for many. .

> .

> >

> > " . . . .all the past progress is deprived both inward and outward. . .

> as

> > they depart , you lose all joy within; there is a sense of inward

> loss.

> > I would like to point out that this is not a real loss in your spirit.

> > The loss is only in your consciousness.. . . .But from your viewpoint,

> > there seems to be no apparent activity deep within you. The presence

> of

> > your spirit is imperceptible to you. . .and the Lord who is there in

> > your spirit is also imperceptible to you. . .Please know, this is

> > necessary that the reality of your spirit be hidden. . . .You ask

> > yourself again and again, Why has this desolation come upon me and why

> > was it necessary? The whole object of the journey, thus far, has been

> to

> > take you first from outward ways to the singleness of heart; then

> > second, to sensing the realm of the spirit within you; and third, to

> ane

> > awareness of the loss of the sense of the presence of your spirit.

> > Finally, there comes a painful awareness of the loss of everything. .

> .

> >

> > Perhaps it could be stated differently. The course begins vigorously

> in

> > the realm of the seen. This seeing the seen and not seeing the unseen

> > is a state every believer begins in, regardless of the singleness of

> his

> > heart. Next, you leave the realm of the seen and are introduced to

> the

> > unseen, spiritual realms where we live by faith are are nourished by

> > love. Later, you leave that spiritual level and enter into naked

> faith.

> > Here you are left dead to all spiritual experiences. It is at this

> > juncture in your life that you die to yourself. Having then died to

> > yourself, you pass into God. It is from this point that one lives

> from

> > the life of God alone.

> >

> > . . . .you have also lost the ability to be keenly conscious. . .You

> are

> > entirely stripped, and gradually you lose not only everything buy you

> > also lose yourself. . . .You now find yourself stripped, without

> mercy,

> > of everything within and without. You seem to have lost all that

> meant

> > anything to your outward nature and all that was of any value to your

> > inward nature What s seemingly unchristian state for a Christian to

> be

> > in. Nonetheless, the pilgrimage is by not means at its (seemingly)

> > lowest point. . . "

> >

> > PHEW!. . .Linda i will stop there, but it goes on from there, and this

> > is where i think like you do that Mother Theresa was

> > expressing a long Dark Night in her private journals. . . i

> > have experienced enough of the process there is a deep knowing the

> > spiritual journey is a process, and it is nice when the bunnies and

> > fairies abound but those can turn into mere sadistic mirages while in

> > the desert lands. . . when i read Mother Theressa's private writings

> once

> > again could not interpret it as the world does that she was an

> atheist

> > and something was " wrong " with her faith, rather i saw raw " naked

> faith "

> > the kept going through the " worst " of divine grace. . .and once again

> it

> > was not about what was " wrong " with her or her faith but rather was

> > so very " right " , so beautifully tender. . . . another kind of tears i

> do not

> > have words for. . . .

> >

> > and want to honor what Tiffany was bringing forth in her self

> > examination. . .i was a bit more base at one place concerning Mother

> > Theresa and the K Ma awakening. . . went on a loop where i was angry

> > that the only real spiritual examples that the Western world held up

> for the

> > Sacred Feminine was Mother Theresa and Mother Mother, and if i would

> of

> > known Amma during those years would of added her to the list. . .Why

> do

> > pure spiritual women have to be extreme poverty, sacrifice,

> suffering,

> > and NO S & X? never found any good answers for that question, but it

> does

> > seem important these days. . .i just now look at all three of them and

> > say; " Mamma i love you, just the way you are " . . . .it is all good

> that

> > holds the dance of light and dark. . .and so are we trying to be

> there.

> > . . it took a while to come to the place where i could grasp that

> light and dark are always there within and without, and in bringing it

> to surface there is choice and one is able to transcend the dense and

> negative, and it is all good as the two work together to bring about the

> Truth of who we really are. . . .for me the yin/yang symbol expresses

> everything i need to know energetically. . .we transcend by fully

> embodying the light and dark, but after living it long enough we

> realize it can all be contain and balanced and with balance move to

> the circle that contains the duality rather than living the duality. . .

> .Now long ago a group of prominent Native American elders were asked

> what does the world need the most? Everyone of them answered; HONOR. .

> . .if our world is going to survive we must bring forth honor. . . .I

> could not grasp the concept of Honor until i learned to identify with

> the circle that holds all dualities, rather than the action of duality.

> . .for me that is what K Ma has been teaching from every angle and have

> proven to be a slow learned but She has Her ways of getting us to the

> circle of One. . .

>

> during that phase i was also mad at Superman. . .but now forget what

> is was that had me bent. . . i think Tiffany is much further along with

> her questions than i was with the Mother Theresa and Superman

> questions.

> . . and just for a chuckle don't think it upset Mother Theresa was

> upset; for when K Ma was throwing the tongues and the mortal fire of

> it was Mother Theresa that came and cooled with her gentle love and

> compassion for those many days. . .lol! whether she is truly working

> from that realm or only a projection that was in my own mind, she is

> one

> tough and yet so very soft real woman in the heart these days. . .

>

> love and peace

> ordinary sparrow

>

>

>

> > , " Linda "

> > crazycats711@ wrote:

> >

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Namastedear Lindai can only speak from my own experiences here Lindathe void and the dark night where very different experiences. . . . . and in just quickly sharing the differences the void experiences where a progressive series that took me into deeper and deeper levels of releasing duality and claiming emptiness and deep inner sacred spaciousness. . . . .and dark night of the soul, i have often said to friends, "which one?", for once again there where more than one and each time a central underlying issue for my own stuff was in releasing attachments and old frames that where outdated, and those frame caused attachments thus leading to angst and suffering turning into deeper states of density. . .i would imagine that Job definitely would of considered his experience a dark night of soul if he could of read John of the Cross, surely he would of been in the Amen section. . . .Linda i went on Amazon and checked for the books. . . all three are there and even have them in used so can probably get all three of them for less than ten dollars. . . .i have excellent luck with Amazons's used books. . . . Just type in Jeanne Guyon Amazon or follow this link. . . also noticed she had a book on Job. . . .http://www.amazon.com/s/qid=1249506105/ref=sr_pg_1?ie=UTF8 & rs= & keywords=guyon%20jeanne & rh=n%3A!1000%2Ci%3Astripbooks%2Ck%3Aguyon%20jeanne & page=1 perhaps can give you more information on the void and dark night, i could only write from how i have experienced those places. . . . love and lightordinary sparrow , "Linda" <crazycats711 wrote:>> Namaste> > Ordinary Sparrow> > I have been reading back over this post from you and was wondering, do you think the "dark night of soul" experience could be the same as experiencing the abyss or void? If you remember, I was told while meditating recently that I would need to experience the abyss for a while. I don't know if I am strong enough for such as that..i> > I have not read anyone's account of experiencing the dark night of the soul, not even John of the Cross. Just the little I have pick up here and there. Would you say the book of Job in the bible, is Job's account of his dark night of the soul?> > I have done a search on line for Jeanne Guyon, but I have not been able to find the 3 books you recommended. I am wondering is these three were written from her original writings. I have found those on the CCEL website. I looked over the poems and read some of them. They are great! Thanks Sparrow!> > Love & blessings,> Linda>

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Thanks for the information.I searched and read the 'Spiritual Torrents' book from http://www.gutenberg.org/browse/authors/g#a25226The lucidity of her experience and the way she has put in the same aptly is with my experiences.Thanks for the same..SkoogleLinda <crazycats711 Sent: Thursday, 6 August, 2009 2:09:00 AM Re: The Shadow....Sparrow

 

 

Namaste

 

Ordinary Sparrow

 

I have been reading back over this post from you and was wondering, do you think the "dark night of soul" experience could be the same as experiencing the abyss or void? If you remember, I was told while meditating recently that I would need to experience the abyss for a while. I don't know if I am strong enough for such as that..

 

I have not read anyone's account of experiencing the dark night of the soul, not even John of the Cross. Just the little I have pick up here and there. Would you say the book of Job in the bible, is Job's account of his dark night of the soul?

 

I have done a search on line for Jeanne Guyon, but I have not been able to find the 3 books you recommended. I am wondering is these three were written from her original writings. I have found those on the CCEL website. I looked over the poems and read some of them. They are great! Thanks Sparrow!

 

Love & blessings,

Linda

 

Kundalini-Awakening -Systems- 1 , "ordinarysparrow" <ordinarysparrow@ ...> wrote:

>

> Kundalini-Awakening -Systems- 1 , "ordinarysparrow"

> <ordinarysparrow@ > wrote:

> >

> > Namaste

> >

> > dear Linda

> >

> > Oh Sister i have book suggestion for you. . . .have you heard of

> Madame

> > Jeanne Guyon? From what you have shared here think you would truly

> > love her writings. . . .

> >

> > " She was born in south central France in the mid1600's. She was

> placed

> > in prison for her writings because of her progressive writings of the

> > direct relationship with God. . . ." The influence of Madame Guyon has

> > never wavered with the passing of centuries. Her writings have

> > influenced movements such as the Moravians, the Quakers, the Methodist

> > and the Little Flock. Leaders such as Wesley, Penn-lewis, Zizendorp,

> > Judson and Nee have lauded some of her writings as among the best ever

> > penned by a Christian, and have testified to her influence in their

> > lives. 300 years later she is still one of the most influential

> people

> > in the lives of those who seek a deeper relationship to Jesus Christ."

> >

> > Linda i have read three of her books and i think it is K Ma

> expressing

> > through the language of Christianity. . .of all the books i have

> known,

> > her stages of the beginning relationship to union with God are most

> > illuminating and validating for the deeper emotional/spiritual stages

> > and process . . .i think if you where to read her books you would

> > find illuminated the private writings of Mother Theresa and the depth

> of

> > the Dark Night of the Soul and what is taking place at the deeper

> > spiritual level during those times. . . .There are many that have

> > written about the Dark Night, but Guyon goes deeper and explains what

> is

> > expressing intrapersonally and impersonally during those times. . .

> > .for myself i often return to her little books, for whatever

> > comes, she has helped in finding a "and this too". . ."and this too".

> .

> > . ."and this too". . .

> >

> > the three books i have read are;

> >

> > 1. Experiencing the Depths of Jesus Christ

> > 2. Spiritual Torrents

> > 3. Union with God

> >

> > Linda will copy a little from one of the books that speaks of the

> Dark

> > Night and Guyon says there are a number of stages after Dark Night

> > before the Union with God and they it is a gradual process for many. .

> .

> >

> >" . . . .all the past progress is deprived both inward and outward. . .

> as

> > they depart , you lose all joy within; there is a sense of inward

> loss.

> > I would like to point out that this is not a real loss in your spirit.

> > The loss is only in your consciousness. . . . .But from your viewpoint,

> > there seems to be no apparent activity deep within you. The presence

> of

> > your spirit is imperceptible to you. . .and the Lord who is there in

> > your spirit is also imperceptible to you. . .Please know, this is

> > necessary that the reality of your spirit be hidden. . . .You ask

> > yourself again and again, Why has this desolation come upon me and why

> > was it necessary? The whole object of the journey, thus far, has been

> to

> > take you first from outward ways to the singleness of heart; then

> > second, to sensing the realm of the spirit within you; and third, to

> ane

> > awareness of the loss of the sense of the presence of your spirit.

> > Finally, there comes a painful awareness of the loss of everything. .

> .

> >

> > Perhaps it could be stated differently. The course begins vigorously

> in

> > the realm of the seen. This seeing the seen and not seeing the unseen

> > is a state every believer begins in, regardless of the singleness of

> his

> > heart. Next, you leave the realm of the seen and are introduced to

> the

> > unseen, spiritual realms where we live by faith are are nourished by

> > love. Later, you leave that spiritual level and enter into naked

> faith.

> > Here you are left dead to all spiritual experiences. It is at this

> > juncture in your life that you die to yourself. Having then died to

> > yourself, you pass into God. It is from this point that one lives

> from

> > the life of God alone.

> >

> > . . . .you have also lost the ability to be keenly conscious. . .You

> are

> > entirely stripped, and gradually you lose not only everything buy you

> > also lose yourself. . . .You now find yourself stripped, without

> mercy,

> > of everything within and without. You seem to have lost all that

> meant

> > anything to your outward nature and all that was of any value to your

> > inward nature What s seemingly unchristian state for a Christian to

> be

> > in. Nonetheless, the pilgrimage is by not means at its (seemingly)

> > lowest point. . . "

> >

> > PHEW!. . .Linda i will stop there, but it goes on from there, and this

> > is where i think like you do that Mother Theresa was

> > expressing a long Dark Night in her private journals. . . i

> > have experienced enough of the process there is a deep knowing the

> > spiritual journey is a process, and it is nice when the bunnies and

> > fairies abound but those can turn into mere sadistic mirages while in

> > the desert lands. . . when i read Mother Theressa's private writings

> once

> > again could not interpret it as the world does that she was an

> atheist

> > and something was "wrong"with her faith, rather i saw raw "naked

> faith"

> > the kept going through the "worst" of divine grace. . .and once again

> it

> > was not about what was "wrong" with her or her faith but rather was

> > so very "right", so beautifully tender. . . . another kind of tears i

> do not

> > have words for. . . .

> >

> > and want to honor what Tiffany was bringing forth in her self

> > examination. . .i was a bit more base at one place concerning Mother

> > Theresa and the K Ma awakening. . . went on a loop where i was angry

> > that the only real spiritual examples that the Western world held up

> for the

> > Sacred Feminine was Mother Theresa and Mother Mother, and if i would

> of

> > known Amma during those years would of added her to the list. . .Why

> do

> > pure spiritual women have to be extreme poverty, sacrifice,

> suffering,

> > and NO S & X? never found any good answers for that question, but it

> does

> > seem important these days. . .i just now look at all three of them and

> > say; "Mamma i love you, just the way you are". . . .it is all good

> that

> > holds the dance of light and dark. . .and so are we trying to be

> there.

> > . . it took a while to come to the place where i could grasp that

> light and dark are always there within and without, and in bringing it

> to surface there is choice and one is able to transcend the dense and

> negative, and it is all good as the two work together to bring about the

> Truth of who we really are.. . . .for me the yin/yang symbol expresses

> everything i need to know energetically. . .we transcend by fully

> embodying the light and dark, but after living it long enough we

> realize it can all be contain and balanced and with balance move to

> the circle that contains the duality rather than living the duality. . .

> ..Now long ago a group of prominent Native American elders were asked

> what does the world need the most? Everyone of them answered; HONOR. ..

> . .if our world is going to survive we must bring forth honor. . . .I

> could not grasp the concept of Honor until i learned to identify with

> the circle that holds all dualities, rather than the action of duality.

> . .for me that is what K Ma has been teaching from every angle and have

> proven to be a slow learned but She has Her ways of getting us to the

> circle of One. . .

>

> during that phase i was also mad at Superman. . .but now forget what

> is was that had me bent. . . i think Tiffany is much further along with

> her questions than i was with the Mother Theresa and Superman

> questions.

> . . and just for a chuckle don't think it upset Mother Theresa was

> upset; for when K Ma was throwing the tongues and the mortal fire of

> it was Mother Theresa that came and cooled with her gentle love and

> compassion for those many days. . .lol! whether she is truly working

> from that realm or only a projection that was in my own mind, she is

> one

> tough and yet so very soft real woman in the heart these days. . .

>

> love and peace

> ordinary sparrow

>

>

>

> > Kundalini-Awakening -Systems- 1 , "Linda"

> > crazycats711@ wrote:

> >

>

 

 

 

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Namaste

 

and thanks back to you Skoogle. . .i did not know about this project

Gutenberg. . .what a vast rich site. . .many thanks. . .

 

ordinary sparrow

 

 

, Skoogle Msb

<skoogle_msb wrote:

>

>

> Thanks for the information.

> I searched and read the 'Spiritual Torrents' book from

http://www.gutenberg.org/browse/authors/g#a25226

> The lucidity of her experience and the way she has put in the same

aptly is with my experiences.

> Thanks for the same.

>

> Skoogle

 

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Hi Skoogle, Sparrow, and all who may be interested. I found all three of

Jeanne Guyon at this website and some. You read online. If you really wanted a

copy you can copy/paste it. :)

 

http://www.passtheword.org/Fenelon-Guyon/

 

There are also some on the CCEL site which you can get to from the address

above. You have to register there to be able to read or downlaod their books.

The ones listed at the passtheword site, you do not have to register for those.

 

Linda

 

, Skoogle Msb

<skoogle_msb wrote:

>

>

> Thanks for the information.

> I searched and read the 'Spiritual Torrents' book from

http://www.gutenberg.org/browse/authors/g#a25226

> The lucidity of her experience and the way she has put in the same aptly is

with my experiences.

> Thanks for the same.

>

> Skoogle

>

>

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Namaste

 

dear Linda. . .

 

thanks for these references. . .i read the ones that had got the poor

translation review so will store these references and go back and have

another read sometime. . .

 

much thanks dear Sister K . . .

 

ordinary sparrow

, " Linda "

<crazycats711 wrote:

>

> Hi Skoogle, Sparrow, and all who may be interested. I found all three

of

> Jeanne Guyon at this website and some. You read online. If you really

wanted a copy you can copy/paste it. :)

>

> http://www.passtheword.org/Fenelon-Guyon/

>

> There are also some on the CCEL site which you can get to from the

address above. You have to register there to be able to read or downlaod

their books. The ones listed at the passtheword site, you do not have to

register for those.

>

> Linda

>

> , Skoogle Msb

skoogle_msb@ wrote:

> >

> >

> > Thanks for the information.

> > I searched and read the 'Spiritual Torrents' book from

http://www.gutenberg.org/browse/authors/g#a25226

> > The lucidity of her experience and the way she has put in the same

aptly is with my experiences.

> > Thanks for the same.

> >

> > Skoogle

> >

> >

>

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