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Kundalini is not infallible?

 

Welcome to you Sheree! Nice to read you here. I will suggest that Kundalini is

still far too much of a mystery to allocate it with such a judgment as not being

infallible. imho.

 

Is divinity fallible? Is the infusion or awakening dynamic of an individual

based upon how much comfort or balance is given into that process?

 

Perhaps it is the vessel that is not infallible. Kundalini allows the imperfect

vessel to be filled as it is able to hold with all of the issues and problems,

struggles and difficulty that vessel brings into the equation.

 

Kundalini in my opinion doesnt make mistakes, but we as children of the

Kundalini do. Neither can it be damaged, but the vessel can certainly be damaged

by Kundalini. - Merely my humble take on your interesting post! - blessings to

you Sheree and welcome again. - chrism

 

-- In , Sheree <bamboodrgn

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> Kundalini is not infallible

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Namaskaram friend Chrism,Jai Maa  Jai GurudevI beg to differ, but that is the whole point of these groups, to share knowledge. (Hee hee...what a way to start a post! LOL!)Two months after my kundalini Rising and while things were still new to me I damaged both energy and body (the vessel) and both things had previously been in balance. The damage was so severe it brought me close to death. I had over extended the Kundalini in an emergency situation....despite the fact I had additional energy added to me. The energies were at two different frequencies and through the process of moving it continuously I damaged my heart chakra...seriously. It can and does happen.

Over the course of the next 24 hours, due to the damage to the heart center, all my chakras weakened and failed in an unstoppable cascade. Without the chakras and the nadi pathways the Kundalini was totally gone. You cannot imagine the feeling of it being lost. It is an emptiness I would never wish on anyone. This proved without doubt that the kundalini, taking into account the energy system as a whole, can be damaged and that it can be lost.It took drastic measures by a special person to reverse the damage and this was done at great cost and possible harm to us both. The person who saved me...a Brahmin with deep knowledge. How was it done? I cannot and will not ever say how. I am most fortunate to be able to relate this experience. If anyone wants the whole sordid story contact me personally. It is too long to tell here.

It is the ultimate truth that Kundalini can be the best of things and equally as dangerous if misused. It will not survive inside us if the conditions are not right and it does not spontaneously heal itself.  Anyone who believes otherwise is just asking to repeat my stupid actions and face the same consequences.

You said that kundalini does not make mistakes and on that point I concur, however, it is not what I suggested was the cause. I merely stated it is not infallible nor is it impervious to misuse. Perhaps I stated that poorly, forgive my friend.

My system of Kundalini, the way I was taught and what I share with others, is based on the oldest of Hindu techniques and beliefs where it is quite well understood and not so much of a mystery, after all isn't India the home of the oldest Kundalini records and references? It has been practiced there for many thousands of years with success. Surely some measure of real understanding had to come out of that.

I will candidly admit that I had been cautioned almost daily not to misuse the Kundalini energy, that there would be a price to pay if I did, and in my quite enthusiastic bid to help others I pushed that warning aside. Even the best of intentions can bite you where you sit when you do energy work. I learned the hard way that Kundalini makes us better people not superhuman or something else. This is a very important lesson, and if my experience can prevent even one person from duplicating my mistakes it is worth a post or two. I am a child of Shakti, and it is her wish for me to tell anyone who will listen to what I did so they respect Kundalini more. How can I refuse her when she has been so good to me? LOL!

When the dust settled and my energy was again intact and growing well I found myself changed. I now feel that helping others through energy use is not the way to go. I pray to God to help them. I do not heal others anymore but simply give them the tools to help themselves and that is worth more than any one-time healing. I believe that Shaktipat should be used only in special situations and not passed to groups at large. Yes, my mindset has altered but one thing remains the same.... I wish everyone will treat Kundalini for the very powerful and potent energy it is, that they protect and nuture it, and that they truly enjoy what Kundalini brings to us. It is more than precious.

Thank you for the conversation Chrism. It was most enjoyable. I look forward to many more as well as learning something new from all the good people here.Om Adi ShaktiSheree

On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 6:51 PM, chrism <> wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

Kundalini is not infallible?

 

Welcome to you Sheree! Nice to read you here. I will suggest that Kundalini is still far too much of a mystery to allocate it with such a judgment as not being infallible. imho.

 

Is divinity fallible? Is the infusion or awakening dynamic of an individual based upon how much comfort or balance is given into that process?

 

Perhaps it is the vessel that is not infallible. Kundalini allows the imperfect vessel to be filled as it is able to hold with all of the issues and problems, struggles and difficulty that vessel brings into the equation.

 

Kundalini in my opinion doesnt make mistakes, but we as children of the Kundalini do. Neither can it be damaged, but the vessel can certainly be damaged by Kundalini. - Merely my humble take on your interesting post! - blessings to you Sheree and welcome again. - chrism

 

-- In , Sheree <bamboodrgn wrote:

> Kundalini is not infallible

 

 

 

 

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Yes Sheree thank you for relating your Kundalini experience! We all learn from

eachother and this gives us much excellent food for consideration and learning.

 

Lol! Shree yes (smiles) I would suggest that it is the words being used at this

point that convey the truth and the ambiguity at this time.

 

Please allow me to explain. But first I only write my opinion and so please do

not take anything I write as anything other than one persons " take " on it.

 

I read your words and notice the actions of the " individual will " or ego within

the context of control over the Kundalini.

 

I also did this early on in the awakening process.

 

" Over extending " the Kundalini implies a control over the Kundalini that may

perhaps be a teaching for the individual to accept divine guidance without ego

taking " control " even for the goodness of the situation.

 

Using the Kundalini as an " instrument of human will " can have dire consequences.

 

Balance as a substantive immobile quantity by your assertion may not be as

accessible as one might think. We may feel balanced and still within a Kundalini

context not be balanced within as is required by the Kundalini. One isnt ever

really prepared for what occurs imho. But conditioning can be given to help in

the attainment of a frequency of responsive surrender to and within the

Kundalini. imho.

 

Our physical and mental, emotional, psychological ideas of balance may not add

up to the stability required of the Kundalini infusion even though it comes to

the individual. Indeed balance imho is a very mobile, fluttering quality as it

comes and goes as we ride the waves of cause and effect upon this planet.

Kundalini balance I feel must have the Kundalini there first to be able to

determine those dynamics.

 

I see much of your experience as having an ego based quality of choice. Choosing

to insert human will into the Kundalini equation. Choosing to " over extend " an

idea of control as a factor of conscious Kundalini deployment. Including moving

it intentionally through the will into the heart chakra. This is the choice of

human will not Kundalini Consciousness doing this if I read you correctly.

 

This could very well be part of a " cause " of the " will " upon the dynamics of the

Kundalini. Actions of the ego self upon the divine can cause the " effect " of the

divine leaving in order to preserve the vessel for its occupant. Departing even

as that vessel is close to death. Merely some thoughts about what you have

gifted us Sheree. I am thankful you made it through!

 

Yes we are most blessed to have the experience of the Sanskriti peoples

explorations into the Kundalini. Their records and information have blessed us

tremendously. There are other sources for Kundalini information though not so

widely recognized. The Tibetans and Shamanic cultures also have a high degree of

divine information within the Kundalini. But yes the Sanskriti did it very

well! May they be forever blessed!

 

It seems clear that we have some points of variation in our understandings of

Kundalini and yet even so I welcome your experiences and learnings and the

teachings that have brought you to this community. We are honored for your

presence Sheree! - many blessings of God upon you! - chrism

 

, Sheree <bamboodrgn

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> Namaskaram friend Chrism,

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> Jai Maa Jai Gurudev

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Gopi, wished it were.

blessings, ty

 

 

 

 

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My system of Kundalini, the way I was taught and what I share with others, is

based on the oldest of Hindu techniques and beliefs where it is quite well

understood and not so much of a mystery, after all isn't India the home of the

oldest Kundalini records and references?