Channeling - - Jonrow

[Guest guest]

Yes from the macro view wrong does not exist and neither does right. Truth no

longer exists and neither do lies. Love? Is love there in that macro view? Is

hate? What do you think Jonathan?

 

I am with you my friend! Go within and learn to discern. You are awakening very

well! Let us see what is around the next turn in the path shall we? - blessings

Jonathan. - chrism

 

, " jonrow_2914 "

<jrowland wrote:

>

The tricky part is how do we discern what is good and what isn't?

> Above all however, know and accept that we are part of that whole and, as

such, we have all the knowledge we seek available to and within us.

[Guest guest]

, " chrism " <>

wrote:

>

> Yes from the macro view wrong does not exist and neither does right. Truth no

longer exists and neither do lies. Love? Is love there in that macro view? Is

hate? What do you think Jonathan?

>

Hi chrism – you ask my thoughts on love and hate in the macro view. I used to

think that the higher planes above the physical would be devoid of any form of

emotion whatsoever – at that stage I perceived emotion to be a physical or human

trait and a weakness and below that which I would expect on the above-human

levels. Recent experiences lead me to believe that there are emotions on the

higher levels but in a very much modified or transformed form from that which we

experience on the physical. My experiences could well be misinterpreted due to

my own limitations, but I have found humour, empathy and compassion on higher

levels. Where an individual's physical aspect feels the mind or ego-driven

aspects of rage and hate and jealousy, I have not found those on higher levels

but rather that transformed perspective where the causes of those negative

emotions are understood. On those higher levels the lessons that have

accompanied the negatives are seen in the context that they were part of the

test or lesson on the physical, and the negative aspect i.e. the hate or rage or

jealousy has vanished completely. I have found on higher levels what I will

incorrectly term `sadness' or `disappointment' at the manner in which some

beings on the physical have chosen badly necessitating repeating the lesson in

some manner.

 

I feel that I am not expressing myself clearly on this one as I just cannot find

the right words to convey my `beliefs', but I will try all the same. Those

transformed emotions of empathy and compassion are in a very refined format

coming from a place of considerably higher understanding or knowing. They are,

in an overall context, driven (again not the right word) by unconditional love

i.e. the awareness and acceptance of who we are and how we interrelate – not the

`touchy feely' emotion that we call love on the physical. Unconditional love is

absolutely logical above the physical, and the knowledge related to the

emotional experiences we have on the physical is carried forward enriching our

being higher and as part of that learning data bank – the akashic records.

 

I have found negatives on the non-human level during an exorcism in which I

participated many years ago, and which induced fear in me at the time. In

retrospect I cannot honestly classify what I encountered in terms of `hate' or

`evil', and the fear I experienced at the time was due completely to my own

limitations, catholic conditioning and perspective at that stage. Did negative

emotion therefore exist – not as we know it. In hindsight I would describe it

at something very powerful and focused in such a manner that was very

anti-social in our context. Enough bad and very limited explanations – I hope I

might have conveyed something of meaning. Blessings - Jonathan

[Guest guest]

I feel you have expressed yourself well Johnathan. Much of these areas are

beyond words so dont struggle to hard! - lol.

 

In some ways multi aspected love and the feelings of love can also evolve into

conditions of a solid state within the higher frequencies.(lighter densities)

I.E. love as a solid. Unlike the love we see as a solid in the form of a child

or flower or butterfly.

 

Love and emotions are commonly the " treasures " we build in the heavens. And we

get to take them with us when we leave. So I would suggest to all here to really

choose to build the loving higher frequencies of love. Rather than to be pinned

down by the denser emotions. - we do move through them all though thats for

sure. Thank you for your clear and concise treatment of the subject Jonathan! -

 

 

 

 

 

, " jonrow_2914 "

<jrowland wrote:

>

> , " chrism " <@>

wrote:

> >

> > Yes from the macro view wrong does not exist and neither does right. Truth

no longer exists and neither do lies. Love? Is love there in that macro view? Is

hate? What do you think Jonathan?

> >

> Hi chrism � you ask my thoughts on love and hate in the macro view. I used

to think that the higher planes above the physical would be devoid of any form

of emotion whatsoever � at that stage I perceived emotion to be a physical or

human trait and a weakness and below that which I would expect on the

above-human levels. Recent experiences lead me to believe that there are

emotions on the higher levels but in a very much modified or transformed form

from that which we experience on the physical. My experiences could well be

misinterpreted due to my own limitations, but I have found humour, empathy and

compassion on higher levels. Where an individual's physical aspect feels the

mind or ego-driven aspects of rage and hate and jealousy, I have not found those

on higher levels but rather that transformed perspective where the causes of

those negative emotions are understood. On those higher levels the lessons that

have accompanied the negatives are seen in the context that they were part of

the test or lesson on the physical, and the negative aspect i.e. the hate or

rage or jealousy has vanished completely. I have found on higher levels what I

will incorrectly term `sadness' or `disappointment' at the manner in which some

beings on the physical have chosen badly necessitating repeating the lesson in

some manner.

>

> I feel that I am not expressing myself clearly on this one as I just cannot

find the right words to convey my `beliefs', but I will try all the same. Those

transformed emotions of empathy and compassion are in a very refined format

coming from a place of considerably higher understanding or knowing. They are,

in an overall context, driven (again not the right word) by unconditional love

i.e. the awareness and acceptance of who we are and how we interrelate � not

the `touchy feely' emotion that we call love on the physical. Unconditional

love is absolutely logical above the physical, and the knowledge related to the

emotional experiences we have on the physical is carried forward enriching our

being higher and as part of that learning data bank � the akashic records.

>

> I have found negatives on the non-human level during an exorcism in which I

participated many years ago, and which induced fear in me at the time. In

retrospect I cannot honestly classify what I encountered in terms of `hate' or

`evil', and the fear I experienced at the time was due completely to my own

limitations, catholic conditioning and perspective at that stage. Did negative

emotion therefore exist � not as we know it. In hindsight I would describe it

at something very powerful and focused in such a manner that was very

anti-social in our context. Enough bad and very limited explanations � I hope

I might have conveyed something of meaning. Blessings - Jonathan

>