Underachievers

[Guest guest]

I often feel like I don't belong here, at least in " mainstream USA'. Tonight

after work I am heading to my favorite rustic 'campsite' in the middle of the

woods to be alone for the weekend. A mini-retreat so to speak, and taking a

Bible. I say 'campsite' because it's just the woods, and an area we sort have

made for ourselves, there's a campfire area, the stream for water and tons of

downed wood for fires. Perfect and simple. No dogs, no other people or

screaming/crying kids, no traffic, no lights! and no other distractions common

to campground camping. It is very soothing.

 

I often feel like " what's the point " ? Not in a suicidal way at all, lol, but

let me explain a recent discussion I had with someone close to me.

 

Her: " Do you ever feel like you've underachieved " ? (not a malicious attack, but

she has felt this way about herself also)

 

Me: " Yes, absolutely! I know I could have done a lot more with my brain, don't

know what, but I feel this way nevertheless. " , then after a short pause " but

what's the point? "

 

H: " WHAT?! " " What's the point?, ummm, money! "

 

M: " But, what for? Why? What does that do? You can't take that with you, why

put so much effort into making money when it is so meaningless (imo)? " . And

then I drift into a happy little place thinking about creation and all living

things and looking forward to the bliss and oneness hopefully coming my way

soon.

 

Then after she said something along the lines of " Why don't you snap back to

reality here, it takes money " we arrive at destination (pizza shop, lol) and

conversation ends.

 

But my point is, have you ever thought any of the following:

Why are we here; are we alone; am I doing it right?

 

I have a thousand other questions but won't bore you all. Do you ever wonder

what's the purpose? Sometimes I just feel like slithering (pun intended) away

into the woods to be alone with nature and just sit and absorb it, which is

exactly what I'm going to do this weekend.

 

It used to bother me that I should have been this or should have applied myself

more there, blah, blah, but now I enjoy staying out of the rat race to get more,

more, more, I just want my family and more of God and nature.

 

Anyone else feel this way?

Love,

Bill

PS. won't receive replies until Monday, no internet in the woods, LOL.

[Guest guest]

One might argue that you are in a place of " overachieving " . But that is all

perspective. I've been there and still get there. Money-shmunnie. They are in

one reality of being and we are in another. Many levels. But as long as we have

enough to live, serve where divinely guided and enjoy while we're here it's

enough for me (at least right now)!

 

Bliss,

Maggie

 

 

 

> It used to bother me that I should have been this or should have applied

myself more there, blah, blah, but now I enjoy staying out of the rat race to

get more, more, more, I just want my family and more of God and nature.

>

> Anyone else feel this way?

> Love,

> Bill

> PS. won't receive replies until Monday, no internet in the woods, LOL.

>

[Guest guest]

I always feel like that, always have. I think its part of being aware of other

things, such as the Kundalini. Being removed from the material. But I guess that

being part of " society " makes you think that its wrong and that you should be

thinking just like everyone else.

 

I just try to find a happy medium. Somewhere in between being removed from the

materialistic, and keeping people close to me happy and not thinking Im a little

wrong in the head.

 

My wife wants a lot out of life material wise, so I work hard for her, but its

not for myself. I spend my own time doing what everyone else here dose,

meditating, doing the tibetans etc. The happy medium lol

 

Oh and hello to everyone, I haven't posted anything in a while, but Ive been

here reading and listening. Just been a little focused on other things for a

couple of weeks

 

Love to all

 

Andy

x

[Guest guest]

I've always felt this way Bill, a deep longing. I watched the show 'Lost'

recently and oh my god, I would be in heaven. Wouldn't mind be shipwrecked on an

island with all of you K folks and not be able to be found by the outside world,

and hunt and gather our food and just live with the natural world. I look at the

concrete jungle expanding and it saddens my heart, and what is it all for? For

money...in the name of progress, and what is this progress achieving? Destroying

our home. It sucks to take a step back and realize that the collective humanity

has turned into a cancerous cell to Gaia (but I realize that if I were to fight

this, then it would only cause a reaction and make things worse, so loving my

fellow brothers and sisters, all that are lost is the only way I see) I just

keep surrendering and actually now that I'm expressing it, I've really

suppressed the emotions I feel from all of this economic 'progress'. Everything

seems like it requires money but it's one of those agreed upon lies. It's hard

to reconcile this, so my only option is to give my service to others, and make

enough to get by. Wish there was some way to stop all of this expansion in the

name of economic 'progress'....

 

love

craig

 

 

 

 

, " astronutski "

<astronutski wrote:

>

> I often feel like I don't belong here, at least in " mainstream USA'. Tonight

after work I am heading to my favorite rustic 'campsite' in the middle of the

woods to be alone for the weekend. A mini-retreat so to speak, and taking a

Bible. I say 'campsite' because it's just the woods, and an area we sort have

made for ourselves, there's a campfire area, the stream for water and tons of

downed wood for fires. Perfect and simple. No dogs, no other people or

screaming/crying kids, no traffic, no lights! and no other distractions common

to campground camping. It is very soothing.

>

> I often feel like " what's the point " ? Not in a suicidal way at all, lol, but

let me explain a recent discussion I had with someone close to me.

>

> Her: " Do you ever feel like you've underachieved " ? (not a malicious attack,

but she has felt this way about herself also)

>

> Me: " Yes, absolutely! I know I could have done a lot more with my brain,

don't know what, but I feel this way nevertheless. " , then after a short pause

" but what's the point? "

>

> H: " WHAT?! " " What's the point?, ummm, money! "

>

> M: " But, what for? Why? What does that do? You can't take that with you,

why put so much effort into making money when it is so meaningless (imo)? " . And

then I drift into a happy little place thinking about creation and all living

things and looking forward to the bliss and oneness hopefully coming my way

soon.

>

> Then after she said something along the lines of " Why don't you snap back to

reality here, it takes money " we arrive at destination (pizza shop, lol) and

conversation ends.

>

> But my point is, have you ever thought any of the following:

> Why are we here; are we alone; am I doing it right?

>

> I have a thousand other questions but won't bore you all. Do you ever wonder

what's the purpose? Sometimes I just feel like slithering (pun intended) away

into the woods to be alone with nature and just sit and absorb it, which is

exactly what I'm going to do this weekend.

>

> It used to bother me that I should have been this or should have applied

myself more there, blah, blah, but now I enjoy staying out of the rat race to

get more, more, more, I just want my family and more of God and nature.

>

> Anyone else feel this way?

> Love,

> Bill

> PS. won't receive replies until Monday, no internet in the woods, LOL.

>

[Guest guest]

ok, still have some issues with that but here's a story I've enjoyed:

 

 

 

Story - The Mexican fisherman

 

The Mexican fisherman

 

An American investment banker was at the pier of a small coastal Mexican village

when a small boat with just one fisherman docked. Inside the small boat were

several large yellow fin tuna. The American complimented the Mexican on the

quality of his fish and asked how long it took to catch them.

 

The Mexican replied, " only a little while. "

 

The American then asked why didn't he stay out longer and catch more fish?

 

The Mexican said he had enough to support his family's immediate needs.

 

The American then asked, " but what do you do with the rest of your time? "

 

The Mexican fisherman said, " I sleep late, fish a little, play with my children,

take siesta with my wife, Maria, stroll into the village each evening where I

sip wine and play guitar with my amigos, I have a full and busy life. "

 

The American scoffed, " I am a Harvard MBA and could help you. You should spend

more time fishing and with the proceeds, buy a bigger boat with the proceeds

from the bigger boat you could buy several boats, eventually you would have a

fleet of fishing boats. Instead of selling your catch to a middleman you would

sell directly to the processor, eventually opening your own cannery. You would

control the product, processing and distribution. You would need to leave this

small coastal fishing village and move to Mexico City, then LA and eventually

NYC where you will run your expanding enterprise. "

 

The Mexican fisherman asked, " But, how long will this all take? "

 

To which the American replied, " 15-20 years. "

 

" But what then? "

 

The American laughed and said that's the best part. " When the time is right you

would announce an IPO and sell your company stock to the public and become very

rich, you would make millions. "

 

" Millions.. Then what? "

 

The American said, " Then you would retire. Move to a small coastal fishing

village where you would sleep late, fish a little, play with your kids, take

siesta with your wife, stroll to the village in the evenings where you could sip

wine and play your guitar with your amigos. "

 

" But, Senor, I do all that already. "

 

 

Why do we believe that we have to work so hard and get rich first, before we can

find contentment?

[Guest guest]

I read some time back.

A Person what enough is enough has enough.

Story is wonderful.

[Guest guest]

I want to apologize for this post, it triggered within me a deep emotional

blockage that I'm working through right now and I reacted to my reflection. But

thanks for bringing this to light Bill, I can now move through this without

trying to suppress it or control it.

 

blessings

craig

 

 

 

, " phoenix.ing9 "

<phoenix.ing9 wrote:

>

> I've always felt this way Bill, a deep longing. I watched the show 'Lost'

recently and oh my god, I would be in heaven. Wouldn't mind be shipwrecked on an

island with all of you K folks and not be able to be found by the outside world,

and hunt and gather our food and just live with the natural world. I look at the

concrete jungle expanding and it saddens my heart, and what is it all for? For

money...in the name of progress, and what is this progress achieving? Destroying

our home. It sucks to take a step back and realize that the collective humanity

has turned into a cancerous cell to Gaia (but I realize that if I were to fight

this, then it would only cause a reaction and make things worse, so loving my

fellow brothers and sisters, all that are lost is the only way I see) I just

keep surrendering and actually now that I'm expressing it, I've really

suppressed the emotions I feel from all of this economic 'progress'. Everything

seems like it requires money but it's one of those agreed upon lies. It's hard

to reconcile this, so my only option is to give my service to others, and make

enough to get by. Wish there was some way to stop all of this expansion in the

name of economic 'progress'....

>

> love

> craig

>

>

>

>

> , " astronutski "

<astronutski@> wrote:

> >

> > I often feel like I don't belong here, at least in " mainstream USA'.

Tonight after work I am heading to my favorite rustic 'campsite' in the middle

of the woods to be alone for the weekend. A mini-retreat so to speak, and

taking a Bible. I say 'campsite' because it's just the woods, and an area we

sort have made for ourselves, there's a campfire area, the stream for water and

tons of downed wood for fires. Perfect and simple. No dogs, no other people or

screaming/crying kids, no traffic, no lights! and no other distractions common

to campground camping. It is very soothing.

> >

> > I often feel like " what's the point " ? Not in a suicidal way at all, lol,

but let me explain a recent discussion I had with someone close to me.

> >

> > Her: " Do you ever feel like you've underachieved " ? (not a malicious attack,

but she has felt this way about herself also)

> >

> > Me: " Yes, absolutely! I know I could have done a lot more with my brain,

don't know what, but I feel this way nevertheless. " , then after a short pause

" but what's the point? "

> >

> > H: " WHAT?! " " What's the point?, ummm, money! "

> >

> > M: " But, what for? Why? What does that do? You can't take that with you,

why put so much effort into making money when it is so meaningless (imo)? " . And

then I drift into a happy little place thinking about creation and all living

things and looking forward to the bliss and oneness hopefully coming my way

soon.

> >

> > Then after she said something along the lines of " Why don't you snap back to

reality here, it takes money " we arrive at destination (pizza shop, lol) and

conversation ends.

> >

> > But my point is, have you ever thought any of the following:

> > Why are we here; are we alone; am I doing it right?

> >

> > I have a thousand other questions but won't bore you all. Do you ever

wonder what's the purpose? Sometimes I just feel like slithering (pun intended)

away into the woods to be alone with nature and just sit and absorb it, which is

exactly what I'm going to do this weekend.

> >

> > It used to bother me that I should have been this or should have applied

myself more there, blah, blah, but now I enjoy staying out of the rat race to

get more, more, more, I just want my family and more of God and nature.

> >

> > Anyone else feel this way?

> > Love,

> > Bill

> > PS. won't receive replies until Monday, no internet in the woods, LOL.

> >

>

[Guest guest]

yeah, love it

 

craig

 

, shrikant phule

<shrikantphule wrote:

>

> I read some time back.

> A Person what enough is enough has enough.

> Story is wonderful.

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Bill,

 

I completly understand and have been in the same place of questioning all my

life. I was told off as a child for questioning our existence. " Why cant you be

like other children? " I was asked. As I grew I watched my 20 something friends

spending evenings with a take away and watching Kung Fu films. So mind numbing

and yet they never even thought of questioning achievments and our existence.

Many times I wished I could be as satisfied as they were.

 

We were bought up to believe it was about money and then we would be happy, all

would be well, life would be good. But I always questioned Why?

 

Through the Kundalini experiences I am slowly finding answers to my lifes

questions and I know now that money is not the answer.

 

Blessings in your quest. Skydancer x

>

> One might argue that you are in a place of " overachieving " . But that is all

perspective. I've been there and still get there. Money-shmunnie. They are in

one reality of being and we are in another. Many levels. But as long as we have

enough to live, serve where divinely guided and enjoy....

>

> > It used to bother me that I should have been this or should have applied

myself more there, blah, blah, but now I enjoy staying out of the rat race to

get more, more, more, I just want my family and more of God and nature.

> >

> > Anyone else feel this way?

> > Love,

> > Bill

> > PS. won't receive replies until Monday, no internet in the woods, LOL.

> >

>

[Guest guest]

I love this. Thanks for posting it.

 

Blessings, Skydancer x

 

 

, " phoenix.ing9 "

<phoenix.ing9 wrote:

>

> ok, still have some issues with that but here's a story I've enjoyed:

>

>

>

> Story - The Mexican fisherman

>

> The Mexican fisherman

>

> An American investment banker was at the pier of a small coastal Mexican

village when a small boat with just one fisherman docked. Inside the small boat

were several large yellow fin tuna. The American complimented the Mexican on the

quality of his fish and asked how long it took to catch them.

>

> The Mexican replied, " only a little while. "

>

> The American then asked why didn't he stay out longer and catch more fish?

>

> The Mexican said he had enough to support his family's immediate needs.

>

> The American then asked, " but what do you do with the rest of your time? "

>

> The Mexican fisherman said, " I sleep late, fish a little, play with my

children, take siesta with my wife, Maria, stroll into the village each evening

where I sip wine and play guitar with my amigos, I have a full and busy life. "

>

> The American scoffed, " I am a Harvard MBA and could help you. You should spend

more time fishing and with the proceeds, buy a bigger boat with the proceeds

from the bigger boat you could buy several boats, eventually you would have a

fleet of fishing boats. Instead of selling your catch to a middleman you would

sell directly to the processor, eventually opening your own cannery. You would

control the product, processing and distribution. You would need to leave this

small coastal fishing village and move to Mexico City, then LA and eventually

NYC where you will run your expanding enterprise. "

>

> The Mexican fisherman asked, " But, how long will this all take? "

>

> To which the American replied, " 15-20 years. "

>

> " But what then? "

>

> The American laughed and said that's the best part. " When the time is right

you would announce an IPO and sell your company stock to the public and become

very rich, you would make millions. "

>

> " Millions.. Then what? "

>

> The American said, " Then you would retire. Move to a small coastal fishing

village where you would sleep late, fish a little, play with your kids, take

siesta with your wife, stroll to the village in the evenings where you could sip

wine and play your guitar with your amigos. "

>

> " But, Senor, I do all that already. "

>

>

> Why do we believe that we have to work so hard and get rich first, before we

can find contentment?

>

[Guest guest]

Loved this story Craig! TY!

Deb

 

, " phoenix.ing9 "

<phoenix.ing9 wrote:

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Bill,

 

I always feel better about myself and the world after spending time in the

forest or at the lake. I can drive less than an hour and be in a big city with

so many different places to go and see but I feel more at home in nature. It's

good for our soul our hearts our spirit - can't take anything else with us...And

anyway if its inspiration you ever want to " achieve " what better place than to

receive but your forest! Hope you are enjoying your weekend! It's nice to think

of you out there - May the stars blink brightly upon you!

Deb (:

 

, " astronutski "

<astronutski wrote:

>

[Guest guest]

Namaste

 

dear Bill

 

hope your outdoor commune was great. . .

 

i think this is really positive. . .sounds like this place in Nature is

where you can most fully " be " these days. . . so often on the path we

begin to identify the illusions of the world and all the egoic idenity

striving as empty and a bit insane . . .then we start all the spiritual

practices and soon we realize that the ego can easily morph into another

dimension of ego, the superego. . .i would imagine many of us have more

barriers placed by the superego these days than the ego. . .the superego

is the one that has the rules and practices all the finger pointing of

too much or not enough. . . underachiever or overachiever. . .always

swinging the pendulum of deflation to inflation. . .perhaps the Lucifer

in each of us. . . " if we where just more " . . . .then what would

superego want?. . .it would want something MORE than it perceives it

does not already have. . . .and would try all kinds of negative

parenting to let you know why you are not enough. . . .like you say;

blah. . .blah. . .blah. . . .many of us grew up in the age that parents

used a stick or rendered physical beatings. . .so our superego (the

internalized parent will energetically use the stick to tell us we are

not measuring up to the parental/god standard). . . .yep. . .you called

it right Bill. . .blah. . .blah. . .blah. . .good for you. . . .

 

most sacred is this the part of you asking these questions and taking

refuge in the greatest teacher of all. . .Nature and all her lessons of

being, accepting, birthing and impermanence. . . . yes family, God, and

Nature. . .and no more or no less than who you truly are dear brother. .

and that is enough. . . .that is enough.

 

 

love

ordinary sparrow

 

 

, " astronutski "

<astronutski wrote:

>

> I often feel like I don't belong here, at least in " mainstream USA'.

Tonight after work I am heading to my favorite rustic 'campsite' in the

middle of the woods to be alone for the weekend. A mini-retreat so to

speak, and taking a Bible. I say 'campsite' because it's just the

woods, and an area we sort have made for ourselves, there's a campfire

area, the stream for water and tons of downed wood for fires. Perfect

and simple. No dogs, no other people or screaming/crying kids, no

traffic, no lights! and no other distractions common to campground

camping. It is very soothing.

>

> I often feel like " what's the point " ? Not in a suicidal way at all,

lol, but let me explain a recent discussion I had with someone close to

me.

>

> Her: " Do you ever feel like you've underachieved " ? (not a malicious

attack, but she has felt this way about herself also)

>

> Me: " Yes, absolutely! I know I could have done a lot more with my

brain, don't know what, but I feel this way nevertheless. " , then after a

short pause " but what's the point? "

>

> H: " WHAT?! " " What's the point?, ummm, money! "

>

> M: " But, what for? Why? What does that do? You can't take that with

you, why put so much effort into making money when it is so meaningless

(imo)? " . And then I drift into a happy little place thinking about

creation and all living things and looking forward to the bliss and

oneness hopefully coming my way soon.

>

> Then after she said something along the lines of " Why don't you snap

back to reality here, it takes money " we arrive at destination (pizza

shop, lol) and conversation ends.

>

> But my point is, have you ever thought any of the following:

> Why are we here; are we alone; am I doing it right?

>

> I have a thousand other questions but won't bore you all. Do you ever

wonder what's the purpose? Sometimes I just feel like slithering (pun

intended) away into the woods to be alone with nature and just sit and

absorb it, which is exactly what I'm going to do this weekend.

>

> It used to bother me that I should have been this or should have

applied myself more there, blah, blah, but now I enjoy staying out of

the rat race to get more, more, more, I just want my family and more of

God and nature.

>

> Anyone else feel this way?

> Love,

> Bill

> PS. won't receive replies until Monday, no internet in the woods, LOL.

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Bill,

 

I know exactly how you feel. I was the kind of child that wondered what happened

to you after you die. Around six or seven years old I would stay up at night

wondering what that other world was that I kept seeing in my mind's eye. It was

beautiful. And I wanted to bring that place into this place. But I couldn't. And

over the years my mind's eye was stomped shut by the wise and learned teachers

that knew oh so well what was best for a " child like that " . No one understands

you. No one has answers to the questions that you ask. You're told to stop being

such an idle foolish thinker. When you first encountered injustice, you

invariably came in contact with the phrase, " That's just how it is. "

 

I was labeled a " dreamer " . I had my " head in the clouds " all my life. One thing

I know in my heart. This longing for something more has a purpose. When you

awaken you will come into the fullness of your potential and you will know that

it was all worth it.

 

I was given the opportunity, but was was too ignorant to understand the gift I

was being offered. I turned away. But it was just as well. Everyone here has

confirmed my instinct that this should not occur in fear. And so I wait. And I

pray.

 

You have not under achieved. This world has not opened up many places for people

like you and me. You have been unable to manifest to your fullness which makes

you think you've failed. You haven't. You were a seed on barren soil. The whole

of your efforts either by instinct or conscious choice, have kept you in search

of an environment within which you can learn and flourish. And now that you have

found your way into this group, (God bless you Chrism), you are now a seed on

fertile soil. Learn from these your teachers. Practice, pray, meditate, and

always in your spirit strive to see with clarity. And to the best that you can,

live in love. I have seen this in the posts of everyone here especially Chrism.

 

I'm not enlightened. But what you feel hurts deeply. I know this feeling well.

You're a child of light and life. Nothing is more sacred. Underachieved? God

forbid. You're just getting started. If it were easy there wouldn't be a need

for a group like this.

 

, " astronutski "

<astronutski wrote:

>

> I often feel like I don't belong here, at least in " mainstream USA'.

[Guest guest]

THIS, is very touching, thank you and God Bless you Shilivan!

I love your analogies, perfectly fitting.

 

Thank you!

Bill

 

 

, " shilivan " <shilivan

wrote:

>

> Dear Bill,

>

> I know exactly how you feel. I was the kind of child that wondered what

happened to you after you die. Around six or seven years old I would stay up at

night wondering what that other world was that I kept seeing in my mind's eye.

It was beautiful. And I wanted to bring that place into this place. But I

couldn't. And over the years my mind's eye was stomped shut by the wise and

learned teachers that knew oh so well what was best for a " child like that " . No

one understands you. No one has answers to the questions that you ask. You're

told to stop being such an idle foolish thinker. When you first encountered

injustice, you invariably came in contact with the phrase, " That's just how it

is. "

>

> I was labeled a " dreamer " . I had my " head in the clouds " all my life. One

thing I know in my heart. This longing for something more has a purpose. When

you awaken you will come into the fullness of your potential and you will know

that it was all worth it.

>

> I was given the opportunity, but was was too ignorant to understand the gift I

was being offered. I turned away. But it was just as well. Everyone here has

confirmed my instinct that this should not occur in fear. And so I wait. And I

pray.

>

> You have not under achieved. This world has not opened up many places for

people like you and me. You have been unable to manifest to your fullness which

makes you think you've failed. You haven't. You were a seed on barren soil. The

whole of your efforts either by instinct or conscious choice, have kept you in

search of an environment within which you can learn and flourish. And now that

you have found your way into this group, (God bless you Chrism), you are now a

seed on fertile soil. Learn from these your teachers. Practice, pray, meditate,

and always in your spirit strive to see with clarity. And to the best that you

can, live in love. I have seen this in the posts of everyone here especially

Chrism.

>

> I'm not enlightened. But what you feel hurts deeply. I know this feeling well.

You're a child of light and life. Nothing is more sacred. Underachieved? God

forbid. You're just getting started. If it were easy there wouldn't be a need

for a group like this.

>

> , " astronutski "

<astronutski@> wrote:

> >

> > I often feel like I don't belong here, at least in " mainstream USA'.

>

[Guest guest]

This whole thread/topic has been great and a great teaching. Thanks Bill for

bringing it up and and for all who added to it.

 

Blessings,

Linda

 

, " astronutski "

<astronutski wrote:

>

> THIS, is very touching, thank you and God Bless you Shilivan!

> I love your analogies, perfectly fitting.

>

> Thank you!

> Bill

>

>

> , " shilivan " <shilivan@>

wrote:

> >

> > Dear Bill,

> >

> > I know exactly how you feel. I was the kind of child that wondered what

happened to you after you die. Around six or seven years old I would stay up at

night wondering what that other world was that I kept seeing in my mind's eye.

It was beautiful. And I wanted to bring that place into this place. But I

couldn't. And over the years my mind's eye was stomped shut by the wise and

learned teachers that knew oh so well what was best for a " child like that " . No

one understands you. No one has answers to the questions that you ask. You're

told to stop being such an idle foolish thinker. When you first encountered

injustice, you invariably came in contact with the phrase, " That's just how it

is. "

> >

> > I was labeled a " dreamer " . I had my " head in the clouds " all my life. One

thing I know in my heart. This longing for something more has a purpose. When

you awaken you will come into the fullness of your potential and you will know

that it was all worth it.

> >

> > I was given the opportunity, but was was too ignorant to understand the gift

I was being offered. I turned away. But it was just as well. Everyone here has

confirmed my instinct that this should not occur in fear. And so I wait. And I

pray.

> >

> > You have not under achieved. This world has not opened up many places for

people like you and me. You have been unable to manifest to your fullness which

makes you think you've failed. You haven't. You were a seed on barren soil. The

whole of your efforts either by instinct or conscious choice, have kept you in

search of an environment within which you can learn and flourish. And now that

you have found your way into this group, (God bless you Chrism), you are now a

seed on fertile soil. Learn from these your teachers. Practice, pray, meditate,

and always in your spirit strive to see with clarity. And to the best that you

can, live in love. I have seen this in the posts of everyone here especially

Chrism.

> >

> > I'm not enlightened. But what you feel hurts deeply. I know this feeling

well. You're a child of light and life. Nothing is more sacred. Underachieved?

God forbid. You're just getting started. If it were easy there wouldn't be a

need for a group like this.

> >

> > , " astronutski "

<astronutski@> wrote:

> > >

> > > I often feel like I don't belong here, at least in " mainstream USA'.

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Linda/all;

I feel very happy and honored that there was a lively discussion/learning

opportunity with all the awesome replies I've received. was difficult

for me to follow, as usual (big wink) but I think I get most of it.

 

Many things I've wondered all my life, about being " slightly different " are one

by one being answered since the my spinal sweep and subsequent study of K in the

following year and a half. This was just one example.

 

Thank you all, I hope some have learned as much as I did.

God Bless,

Bill

 

, " danceswithcats999 "

<crazycats711 wrote:

>

> This whole thread/topic has been great and a great teaching. Thanks Bill for

bringing it up and and for all who added to it.

>

> Blessings,

> Linda

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Craig,

I never once thought that, quit being so hard on yourself lol.

All is good, and I appreciate your input, everything is a learning experience.

 

I also share your anger regarding the loss of trees.

Love,

Bill

 

, " phoenix.ing9 "

<phoenix.ing9 wrote:

>

> I've gone through a lot of feelings of guilt for my post earlier, and I just

want to say that I wasn't directing it to you Bill or your friend