ego/ your thoughts

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Chrism

(please to all that might want to comment)

Was reading your post, which ignited an interest in exploring and receiving your

thoughts. I have interpreted the ego as this part of me that at some young age

(the short version) because of my inability to process and understand gave way

to the birth of this part of me to step forward (ego), in a sense, to lend a

hand, to help protect me. to become a guardian.

 

Over time, the strength of this hand became stronger, became more empowered than

my own. It became in my young eyes a means to shield me from a world I was

incapable of handling, of dealing, of honoring and exercising my emotional body

in a manner that would protect me from an ever growing danger. There was a

dearth of tools for me to build boundaries, build antennas, systems for me to

help monitor those who entered my world.

 

As time passed, as I became more entrenched in the beliefs and behaviors taught

to me, by parents, teachers, friends, priests ands the like. As I navigated

through my world lacking in the nurturing, love and unmitigated support that

propagated the reality of my ownership of being a divine being with all the

talent and capability to be everything/anything was nonexistent, or in

quantities so small their impact not enough to counterbalance its antithesis. As

I waddled there in this pool of unknowing, my ego stepped in to advise me, " it's

OK. I'll strip you of you decision making process or your consciousness so that

you can go about you daily life with out worry, seemingly with out

responsibility. And wasn't that appealing.

 

Responsibility, after all was a word packaged with so many attachments as to

repel me. A word with a connotation attached to it that spoke to capitulating to

the child in you. A word that conjures up this image of an enormous weight

shackled to my body. A word that gagging from the behaviors and struggles of my

parents and the other adults, suggested something I was not enticed or entreated

by. A word that spoke to losing all the opportunity to be free. That could or

would strip me of my innocence, of my exploratory desires because they were

laden with too much responsibility.

This ego, now has a stronghold, a fortified place within that goes unnoticed as

i walk by as a young person, a teen.

 

It has taken away the voice of the little boy, sequestered the language of the

rebellious teen. And after an exhaustive effort those voices are still within,

waiting to be attended to.

So we come to the concept of the Huna, the Hooponopono theory of the three

selves. A concept which very much mirrors the Bradshaw's concept of these parts

of ourselves trapped in adolescence , teenage hood or child. These parts of us

needing to be listened and nurtured, to be embraced, then showered with love,

granting them an assurance that the adult us is here to care for them, to give

to their every need, to proclaim to them how spectacular, how beautiful each of

them is.

 

Now this adult is invited to explore his ego, no, not to kill it, not to destroy

it but to observe it methods and tactics, to become acutely aware how it

navigates its way in my world, how it targets the lesser parts, the vulnerable

of me, panders to them, allow its participation in this old dance now done with

a new step. How it has me thinking, I now am making a choice. How, once again it

asks to be the decision maker rather than to allow me to become more conscious.

consciousness would of course eradicate its negative hold shift it back into the

supportive role it was intended to be.

 

So, as I become the ever vigilant observer, notice how it (ego) can strip me of

my power, how it will play this game to have me be more in an effort to buttress

the belief that i am something more worthy, more significant, intelligent,

whiter than another, something better, or it opposite, something far less. In

the observation, I am afforded the opportunity to simply experience the

intrinsic value of my being. To know there is a loving universe that is not

separate from me, that all of me is imbued with a beauty, a love in every cell.

I'm invited to experience the enormity, the divinity of all that entails.

 

But the ego is incredibly genius in morphing into new behaviors, shapes, colors,

persona's, having us think that it’s voice has vanished. It has the talent of

sneaking in through the back door while all the windows are locked and before we

realize, it is here.

 

Only Now, as we sensate our bodies, are feelings, our intuition, our knowing,

our awareness, ,we have a new choice that has always been here, obscured by our

hunger and desire to be more. The petri dish from where we were birthed was rich

in cultures teaming with beliefs we were never worthy, never deserving, never

enough. In our incessant eagerness to change that, guided by our egos we found

it nearly impossible to simply be. If we let go of who we think we are, this

opportunity to glimpse who we are and are becoming comes into being.  Is is not

who we've been all along.

Thank you for the read and thoughts

 

Love

Out.............................................................................\

.........LOUD

burgeoningheart

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Hello Tony,

Just to be clear,

 

" Ho'oponopono " is defined in the Hawaiian Dictionary[1] as " mental cleansing:

family conferences in which relationships were set right through prayer,

discussion, confession, repentance, and mutual restitution and forgiveness. "

Literally, ho'o means " to, " pono is defined as " goodness, uprightness, morality,

moral qualities, correct or proper procedure, excellence, well-being,

prosperity, welfare, benefit, true condition or nature, duty; moral, fitting,

proper, righteous, right, upright, just, virtuous, fair, beneficial, successful,

in perfect order, accurate, correct, eased, relieved; should, ought, must,

necessary, " and ponopono is defined as " to put to rights; to put in order or

shape, correct, revise, adjust, amend, regulate, arrange, rectify, tidy up, make

orderly or neat. "

 

Huna is not representative of Hawaiian beliefs per any of the native Hawaiian

peoples. It was taken and used from part of the word " Kahuna " by Max Freedom

Long. There is some resentment about the organization of this aspect of their

belief system or culture. So let us be clear Huna is only part of a larger

picture of practice and beliefs brought into the present by a foreigner and the

ancient Polynesian civilization of Hawaii and held within oral histories for

thousands of years.

 

Your reference to the ego within Ho'oponopono can benefit by taking into obvious

consideration that dark side or the more challenging aspects of our natures

which do present for all aspects of the human psychological and spiritual

egotistic levels. Huna does take these levels apart as there are about ten

bodies of light and dark to work with within a single individual.

 

We are inside of duality and this will make its presence known and felt.

 

Ego is part if the survival mechanism within a person. Not mere physical

survival but survival in many of the human experiences. Survival in social

groups, survival alone, survival in procreation, survival in the wilderness of

life, and so forth.

 

Within that matrix we have the choices of morality. Morality begins to assert

its way inside of us and through us from request or demand of the culture we are

raised in. We begin to " survive " within those moral codes.

 

Which can give way to programming through education or through entertainments as

is occurring now in our culture. Our challenging sides will have their say

through out these processes. They give us the basis for making a " choice " among

the many moral choices or amoral choices available. From those choices to we

begin to shape our inner teachings.

 

From there is our Karma being prepared.

 

We make choices about how we will represent ourself(ves) and about what aspect

of our nature is in control. We choose to capitulate to or to rise above certain

lessons in life. And while we have life we are open to changing those

expressions if we " choose. "

 

There is no victim hood. There is no being taken advantage of or unfairly

dominated by an aspect of ourselves, ego or otherwise. This can be understood as

an aspect of our personal Karma and in this way are our options and feelings and

choices attenuated.

 

We are here to advance and to over come at the same time in our own way at our

own speed. We can fall back into our own mistakes and that will merely suggest

more attention is needed within those life experiences - " which will be given! "

- lol!

 

Soon enough our mental conscious moral self emerges and takes control in many

ways away from the survival oriented and narcissistic ego self(ves). This is

within a natural progression but it is unique to each person as we come here

with unique traits and gifts however similar they may seem.

 

For some this shift encourages a further shift into the higher spiritual areas.

Not all have this shift but many do and many pursue it within the means and

understandings within the culture they are in. Just a short take on this

voluminous subject! - blessings to you Tony! - chrism

 

, Tony Camacho

<burgeoningheart wrote:

 

Chrism

> (please to all that might want to comment)

> Was reading your post, which ignited an interest in exploring and receiving

your thoughts.

[Guest guest]

(Side Note: Gasp! Phew, I can breathe again. I feel like I've been holding my

breath for the past 9 hours; like my head has been held under water! Thank you

Chrism for noting this, for these words which have permitted movement and the

pushing through of whatever this topic apparently signifies to me. I literally

felt like I was drowing...your words of clarification are like an air pocket

bringing me to surface. I don't really know what I'm saying, so I apologize for

my jibber jabber Tony and everyone...but what a relief! Deep breath. How odd.)

-Danielle

 

 

, " "

<> wrote:

>

> Hello Tony,

>

 

> Huna is not representative of Hawaiian beliefs per any of the native

Hawaiian peoples. It was taken and used from part of the word " Kahuna " by Max

Freedom Long. There is some resentment about the organization of this aspect of

their belief system or culture. So let us be clear Huna is only part of a larger

picture of practice and beliefs brought into the present by a foreigner and the

ancient Polynesian civilization of Hawaii and held within oral histories for

thousands of years.

[Guest guest]

To perform every action ego is required or behind every action exsists an

ego.......shrikant

 

wrote:

>  

> Hello Tony,

> Just to be clear,

> " Ho'oponopono " is defined in the Hawaiian Dictionary[1] as " mental cleansing:

family conferences in which relationships were set right through prayer,

discussion, confession, repentance, and mutual restitution and forgiveness. "

Literally, ho'o means " to, " pono is defined as " goodness, uprightness, morality,

moral qualities, correct or proper procedure, excellence, well-being,

prosperity, welfare, benefit, true condition or nature, duty; moral, fitting,

proper, righteous, right, upright, just, virtuous, fair, beneficial, successful,

in perfect order, accurate, correct, eased, relieved; should, ought, must,

necessary, " and ponopono is defined as " to put to rights; to put in order or

shape, correct, revise, adjust, amend, regulate, arrange, rectify, tidy up, make

orderly or neat. "

> Huna is not representative of Hawaiian beliefs per any of the native Hawaiian

peoples. It was taken and used from part of the word " Kahuna " by Max Freedom

Long. There is some resentment about the organization of this aspect of their

belief system or culture. So let us be clear Huna is only part of a larger

picture of practice and beliefs brought into the present by a foreigner and the

ancient Polynesian civilization of Hawaii and held within oral histories for

thousands of years.

> Your reference to the ego within Ho'oponopono can benefit by taking into

obvious consideration that dark side or the more challenging aspects of our

natures which do present for all aspects of the human psychological and

spiritual egotistic levels. Huna does take these levels apart as there are about

ten bodies of light and dark to work with within a single individual.

> We are inside of duality and this will make its presence known and felt.

> Ego is part if the survival mechanism within a person. Not mere physical

survival but survival in many of the human experiences. Survival in social

groups, survival alone, survival in procreation, survival in the wilderness of

life, and so forth.

> Within that matrix we have the choices of morality. Morality begins to assert

its way inside of us and through us from request or demand of the culture we are

raised in. We begin to " survive " within those moral codes.

> Which can give way to programming through education or through entertainments

as is occurring now in our culture. Our challenging sides will have their say

through out these processes. They give us the basis for making a " choice " among

the many moral choices or amoral choices available. From those choices to we

begin to shape our inner teachings.

> From there is our Karma being prepared.

> We make choices about how we will represent ourself(ves) and about what aspect

of our nature is in control. We choose to capitulate to or to rise above certain

lessons in life. And while we have life we are open to changing those

expressions if we " choose. "

> There is no victim hood. There is no being taken advantage of or unfairly

dominated by an aspect of ourselves, ego or otherwise. This can be understood as

an aspect of our personal Karma and in this way are our options and feelings and

choices attenuated.

> We are here to advance and to over come at the same time in our own way at our

own speed. We can fall back into our own mistakes and that will merely suggest

more attention is needed within those life experiences - " which will be given! "

- lol!

> Soon enough our mental conscious moral self emerges and takes control in many

ways away from the survival oriented and narcissistic ego self(ves). This is

within a natural progression but it is unique to each person as we come here

with unique traits and gifts however similar they may seem.

> For some this shift encourages a further shift into the higher spiritual

areas. Not all have this shift but many do and many pursue it within the means

and understandings within the culture they are in. Just a short take on this

voluminous subject! - blessings to you Tony! - chrism

> Kundalini-Awakening -Systems- 1 , Tony Camacho

<burgeoningheart@ ...> wrote:

> Chrism

>> (please to all that might want to comment)

>> Was reading your post, which ignited an interest in exploring and receiving

your thoughts.

>

 

 

 

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