Guest guest Posted August 24, 2009 Report Share Posted August 24, 2009 Hello Linda, In my humble opinion they are not the same. Kabbalah can activate a Kundalini response but Kundalini is as a divine presence, a consciousness. Kabbalah is as a human ego understanding or attempted conscious ego understanding of that divine presence or that divine consciousness and that which falls outside of five sense awareness. This requires an expanded awareness which I feel Kabbalah can provide. Kabbalah can bring one into the astral areas and into an awakening of the Kundalini but it is not Kundalini. Kundalini doesn't always have the individual ego understanding as a primary agenda. Kundalini is as a divine force of transformation and change upon and within a person with or without the conscious understanding for any specific ego element of that person. Kabbalah is a way of providing certain forms of information that can expand the knowledge base of the ego and even going into that which is beyond it. But it doesn't happen without the individual ego imperative. Once Kundalini awakens that's it! Your ego is merely along for the ride or trying to control the ride which is where problems can occur. Divinity is gentle and loving and patient, to a degree, and it will steer a person into areas of assistance as IT deems is needed by the individual consciousness and this can be towards Kabbalah or religion or any of a number of esoteric studies. Kundalini is a divine consciousness of what Kabbalah may refer to as its Ain Soph. From there " streams of light " or (Sefirot) are " assigned " specific agenda or qualities such as: Azilut (world of divine emanations) Briah (world of creation) Yetzirah (the pure souls which are deposited in the material, the souls of the stars; the pure spirits are further differentiated as this enigmatic system proceeds) Asiah (world of activation) These are mere " attempts of understanding " from the ego point of reference that which is of the divine. The " streams of light " (Sefirot) from the unspeakable (Ain Sof) as having certain qualities that can be seen as logical and or linear constructs of activity within the expanded consciousness of the human ego. Kundalini is many different qualities of a divine agenda that is actually forced upon the person. Once it is awakened there is no going back. It will have its way with a person regardless of ego desires. Regardless of the comforts of understanding. Even so much understanding is given and we are allowed certain expanded understandings of information given to us by the divine force of the Kundalini as it determines what we can have and hold with and without consideration to our addiction to temporal expectations. Our dependence upon the comprehension of " time. " These are " some of the major differences " that I am given to write of between the Kabbalah and the Kundalini. - blessings Linda and all. - chrism , " danceswithcats999 " <crazycats711 wrote: Is kundalini and kabbablah the same thing, but with different spellings? I am wondering. LOL! and my mind is spinning. > Love, > Linda Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 24, 2009 Report Share Posted August 24, 2009 Thank you chrism for the explanation of the differences. Yesterday was my first day to delve into any thing of regards to the kabbalah so I really don't know much at all of it, but Spirit within quickened as I watch/listened to those videos. I appreciate you explanation. Well, I take that back about yesterday being my first time with anything of the kabbalah. I was just reminded Spirit, that we had jewish guest speaker at chruch one day and Spirit within quickened with what he had to share that day as well. Since my white on white dream the other day, I feel/since the closesness/awareness of Spirit guidance return to me. I know it was there all along, but there was something blocking my ability to recieve. Love & blessings, Linda , " " <> wrote: > > Hello Linda, > In my humble opinion they are not the same. Kabbalah can activate a Kundalini response but Kundalini is as a divine presence, a consciousness. Kabbalah is as a human ego understanding or attempted conscious ego understanding of that divine presence or that divine consciousness and that which falls outside of five sense awareness. This requires an expanded awareness which I feel Kabbalah can provide. > > Kabbalah can bring one into the astral areas and into an awakening of the Kundalini but it is not Kundalini. Kundalini doesn't always have the individual ego understanding as a primary agenda. Kundalini is as a divine force of transformation and change upon and within a person with or without the conscious understanding for any specific ego element of that person. > > Kabbalah is a way of providing certain forms of information that can expand the knowledge base of the ego and even going into that which is beyond it. But it doesn't happen without the individual ego imperative. > > Once Kundalini awakens that's it! Your ego is merely along for the ride or trying to control the ride which is where problems can occur. > Divinity is gentle and loving and patient, to a degree, and it will steer a person into areas of assistance as IT deems is needed by the individual consciousness and this can be towards Kabbalah or religion or any of a number of esoteric studies. > > Kundalini is a divine consciousness of what Kabbalah may refer to as its Ain Soph. From there " streams of light " or (Sefirot) are " assigned " specific agenda or qualities such as: > > Azilut (world of divine emanations) > > Briah (world of creation) > > Yetzirah (the pure souls which are deposited in the material, the souls of the stars; the pure spirits are further differentiated as this enigmatic system proceeds) > > Asiah (world of activation) > > These are mere " attempts of understanding " from the ego point of reference that which is of the divine. The " streams of light " (Sefirot) from the unspeakable (Ain Sof) as having certain qualities that can be seen as logical and or linear constructs of activity within the expanded consciousness of the human ego. > > Kundalini is many different qualities of a divine agenda that is actually forced upon the person. Once it is awakened there is no going back. It will have its way with a person regardless of ego desires. Regardless of the comforts of understanding. Even so much understanding is given and we are allowed certain expanded understandings of information given to us by the divine force of the Kundalini as it determines what we can have and hold with and without consideration to our addiction to temporal expectations. Our dependence upon the comprehension of " time. " > > These are " some of the major differences " that I am given to write of between the Kabbalah and the Kundalini. - blessings Linda and all. - chrism > > , " danceswithcats999 " <crazycats711@> wrote: > Is kundalini and kabbablah the same thing, but with different spellings? I am wondering. LOL! and my mind is spinning. > > Love, > > Linda > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 24, 2009 Report Share Posted August 24, 2009 ain soph, heres my experience lol.. ain = eye (arabic) soph= wisdom (sophia) meditate until you get a huge eye watching ya, be freaked of it for about a month lol... then jump through it uttering some nonsence scottish phrase to give one courage..and enjoy the trip love and laughter purple , " " <> wrote: > > Hello Linda, > In my humble opinion they are not the same. Kabbalah can activate a Kundalini response but Kundalini is as a divine presence, a consciousness. Kabbalah is as a human ego understanding or attempted conscious ego understanding of that divine presence or that divine consciousness and that which falls outside of five sense awareness. This requires an expanded awareness which I feel Kabbalah can provide. > > Kabbalah can bring one into the astral areas and into an awakening of the Kundalini but it is not Kundalini. Kundalini doesn't always have the individual ego understanding as a primary agenda. Kundalini is as a divine force of transformation and change upon and within a person with or without the conscious understanding for any specific ego element of that person. > > Kabbalah is a way of providing certain forms of information that can expand the knowledge base of the ego and even going into that which is beyond it. But it doesn't happen without the individual ego imperative. > > Once Kundalini awakens that's it! Your ego is merely along for the ride or trying to control the ride which is where problems can occur. > Divinity is gentle and loving and patient, to a degree, and it will steer a person into areas of assistance as IT deems is needed by the individual consciousness and this can be towards Kabbalah or religion or any of a number of esoteric studies. > > Kundalini is a divine consciousness of what Kabbalah may refer to as its Ain Soph. From there " streams of light " or (Sefirot) are " assigned " specific agenda or qualities such as: > > Azilut (world of divine emanations) > > Briah (world of creation) > > Yetzirah (the pure souls which are deposited in the material, the souls of the stars; the pure spirits are further differentiated as this enigmatic system proceeds) > > Asiah (world of activation) > > These are mere " attempts of understanding " from the ego point of reference that which is of the divine. The " streams of light " (Sefirot) from the unspeakable (Ain Sof) as having certain qualities that can be seen as logical and or linear constructs of activity within the expanded consciousness of the human ego. > > Kundalini is many different qualities of a divine agenda that is actually forced upon the person. Once it is awakened there is no going back. It will have its way with a person regardless of ego desires. Regardless of the comforts of understanding. Even so much understanding is given and we are allowed certain expanded understandings of information given to us by the divine force of the Kundalini as it determines what we can have and hold with and without consideration to our addiction to temporal expectations. Our dependence upon the comprehension of " time. " > > These are " some of the major differences " that I am given to write of between the Kabbalah and the Kundalini. - blessings Linda and all. - chrism > > , " danceswithcats999 " <crazycats711@> wrote: > Is kundalini and kabbablah the same thing, but with different spellings? I am wondering. LOL! and my mind is spinning. > > Love, > > Linda > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 24, 2009 Report Share Posted August 24, 2009 LOL! I have seen the huge eye before but have not projected through it. I have projected through a set of chomping teeth once though and went for a journey to the moon, Dr. Suess style. It was a fun adventure. Love & laughter back at you, Linda , " purple_firefly111 " <purple_firefly111 wrote: > > ain soph, > heres my experience lol.. > ain = eye (arabic) > soph= wisdom (sophia) > > meditate until you get a huge eye watching ya, be freaked of it for about a month lol... then jump through it uttering some nonsence scottish phrase to give one courage..and enjoy the trip > > love and laughter > purple > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 25, 2009 Report Share Posted August 25, 2009 , " " <> wrote: > Kundalini doesn't always have the individual ego understanding as a primary agenda. Kundalini is as a divine force of transformation and change upon and within a person with or without the conscious understanding for any specific ego element of that person. > > Once Kundalini awakens that's it! Your ego is merely along for the ride or trying to control the ride which is where problems can occur. > Divinity is gentle and loving and patient, to a degree, and it will steer a person into areas of assistance as IT deems is needed by the individual consciousness Hi Chrism, This made me feel sad because it's very much my experience. I don;t really get how something with my best interests at heart would not communicate what's happening... feels like the ultimate letdown sometimes! In the last two days I've drifted in and out of dream states, managed to send everything away to let me make crumble in peace (huzzah), had an old lady ghost on me, managed to send her off, found some kind of a squid ring inside me which I think I always thought was me but isn;t and is draining my energy, cried over my past relationships with people and how little reality I ever managed to get to with them, became a toilet! LOL , went into total no thought peace at varying different levels, saw people as lights, had a kind of panic attack, had burning black pains, felt squirms and twitches under my skin, had amazing serendipity in a crystal shop where I picked up a book wondering what a stone was and it fell open to the right page in my hand, gone through all sorts of emotions... I mean. every single moment is different right now, I cycle through so much stuff in such little time. and I have no idea what I'm meant to do to support this or find a path through to smooth it - I do the safeties, I do tai chi, it is helping and there are more than enough good moments and calm moments, but I WOULD STILL RATHER LIKE TO KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON I mean come on, do I not have some rights here? I'm laughing right now but there was a true tear over it when I read your post. I feel like the silliest little monster child has come and is trying to have it's way with me. The idea that there is divinity behind it doesn't wash right now - when I manage to say 'STOP and have it behave and stop is when I feel that things are good and right and this is how things are meant to be. The other thing I don;t like is how imprintable I am, how hopped up my subconscious is, and the fact that all this might be going on but I know the process enough in myself to realise that ultimately it all means nothing, (look back on everything else I've thought since this started and thought 'wow, that was crazy' and have no particular reason to assume anything different is happening right now)... so most of the time I'm just being assaulted by random noise while life passes me by! just - eek! *dissolves in frustration* Writing it all down makes it kinda funny. But only a bit - Amanda Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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