Guest guest Posted September 1, 2009 Report Share Posted September 1, 2009 I have a question about this truth subject. If a person didn't believe all as nothing, would that person even though they did not believe that as a truth, would they expereince it anyways if that is what the majority of the collective believe? Or would I expereince it the way I believe? How much does our belifs effect what we experience? A person can experience all kinds of illusions, so how are you going to know if what you are experiencing is an illusion or if it is a truth, which is and never changes no matter what one's beleifs in it is or not. I believe in absolute truths that is not changed by what we believe. So how can you tell if you are experiencing an absolute truth or just an illusion created by the creature's (mankind) imagination? Love Linda , shrikant phule <shrikantphule wrote: > > Dear Purple, > When You are performing Sayama/concentration on any thing or nothing you become one with that point of concentration ,you become one with the universal consciousnes. At firsr there is light then nothingness.You are not aware of that point.Then no time factor exsists.What do you thinkof this?..........................shrikant > > --- On Tue, 1/9/09, Melissa Corrieri <purple_firefly111 wrote: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 1, 2009 Report Share Posted September 1, 2009 Hey Wheels (oh oh Linda - I think you've got a nickname) haha Yeah yeah yeah...as in good questions!! Here's an example - I keep hearing (yes even right now as I type to you) a woman humming to me...the pleasant thing about it is I am noticing as I experience the kundalini giving those blissful feelings she's really humming then - so...I like to think of her as divine (ok at first I admit I was wondering...) So is this my illusion then? Did some part of me create this experience??? I mean has anyone else ever heard a womans voice humming?? In any event...even if it is my illusion...at least I'm making nice illusions now! (: Thanks for the thoughts you provoked in me Wheels...Yeah I said Wheels...and I've got a big grin across my face when I say it...kinda like a chesire cat ... I know how much you like cats...(Ok if you really don't like it - I suppose, perhaps I could be good...maybe haha) Much love Wheels... Debs (: (I don't know why I like to aggravate people - I think its in my jeans) ....I mean genes - whats with this k scrambling up my brains?) , " danceswithcats999 " <crazycats711 wrote: > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 1, 2009 Report Share Posted September 1, 2009 the experience of truth..hmm everthing, i can relate about it , everthing i say, while talking in the bonds of space and time will be an illusion.. truth can only be experienced. so now to illusions, the ego , will fight even suicide itself to avoid giving up its throne. we are given ,exactly what we need, as we need it, this is perfect. You would experience your belief even if the world around you were in chaos. Look at the world now some people live a charmed life while others live in poverty and hunger. How could this be perfection , if it is not experienced by the all? but it is perfection, everyone learning what they need as they need it.Recieving the lessons from pain as they need it. This is perfect. Yes we get our illusion we desire , if it is the illusion we desired, and we get to keep it until we ourselves realise this great freedom we discovered,( be it wealth, be it super powers, bliss ) is infact a trap and we recognise it for what it is, and abandon it. the further you go the sweeter the honey in those traps. To experience it just surrender the attatchment, and you are there...knowing for yourself. (..i'm picking up sky's bob marley ..emancipate yourself from mental slavery, none but ourselves can free our mind...) love p , " danceswithcats999 " <crazycats711 wrote: > > I have a question about this truth subject. If a person didn't believe all as nothing, would that person even though they did not believe that as a truth, would they expereince it anyways if that is what the majority of the collective believe? Or would I expereince it the way I believe? How much does our belifs effect what we experience? A person can experience all kinds of illusions, so how are you going to know if what you are experiencing is an illusion or if it is a truth, which is and never changes no matter what one's beleifs in it is or not. I believe in absolute truths that is not changed by what we believe. > > So how can you tell if you are experiencing an absolute truth or just an illusion created by the creature's (mankind) imagination? > > Love > Linda > > , shrikant phule <shrikantphule@> wrote: > > > > Dear Purple, > > When You are performing Sayama/concentration on any thing or nothing you become one with that point of concentration ,you become one with the universal consciousnes. At firsr there is light then nothingness.You are not aware of that point.Then no time factor exsists.What do you thinkof this?..........................shrikant > > > > --- On Tue, 1/9/09, Melissa Corrieri <purple_firefly111@> wrote: > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 1, 2009 Report Share Posted September 1, 2009 No I mostly get red lips, smiling or not, sometimes blowing out spirals. Maybe someday the lips will hum for me. Beats me! What is an illusion? Nothing right? Hehe! Linda , " flowerpowers7777 " <flowerpowers7777 wrote: > > Hey Wheels (oh oh Linda - I think you've got a nickname) haha > > Yeah yeah yeah...as in good questions!! Here's an example - I keep hearing (yes even right now as I type to you) a woman humming to me...the pleasant thing about it is I am noticing as I experience the kundalini giving those blissful feelings she's really humming then - so...I like to think of her as divine (ok at first I admit I was wondering...) > So is this my illusion then? Did some part of me create this experience??? I mean has anyone else ever heard a womans voice humming?? In any event...even if it is my illusion...at least I'm making nice illusions now! (: > > Thanks for the thoughts you provoked in me Wheels...Yeah I said Wheels...and I've got a big grin across my face when I say it...kinda like a chesire cat ... I know how much you like cats...(Ok if you really don't like it - I suppose, perhaps I could be good...maybe haha) > > Much love Wheels... > Debs (: > (I don't know why I like to aggravate people - I think its in my jeans) > > ...I mean genes - whats with this k scrambling up my brains?) > > > , " danceswithcats999 " <crazycats711@> wrote: > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 1, 2009 Report Share Posted September 1, 2009 Well that was mind bobbling, thanks Purple. Hehe! I don't kow who Bob Marley is, but i am glad he's got it. whatever it is he's got. Love, Linda , " purple_firefly111 " <purple_firefly111 wrote: > > the experience of truth..hmm > everthing, i can relate about it , everthing i say, > while talking in the bonds of space and time will be an illusion.. > > truth can only be experienced. > > so now to illusions, the ego , will fight even suicide itself to avoid > giving up its throne. > > we are given ,exactly what we need, as we need it, this is perfect. > You would experience your belief even if the world around you were in chaos. Look at the world now some people live a charmed life while others live in poverty and hunger. How could this be perfection , if it is not experienced by the all? but it is perfection, everyone learning what they need as they need it.Recieving the lessons from pain as they need it. This is perfect. > > Yes we get our illusion we desire , if it is the illusion we desired, and we get to keep it until we ourselves realise this great freedom we discovered,( be it wealth, be it super powers, bliss ) is infact a trap and we recognise it for what it is, and abandon it. the further you go the sweeter the honey in those traps. To experience it just surrender the attatchment, and you are there...knowing for yourself. > > (..i'm picking up sky's bob marley ..emancipate yourself from mental slavery, none but ourselves can free our mind...) > > love p > > > > > , " danceswithcats999 " <crazycats711@> wrote: > > > > I have a question about this truth subject. If a person didn't believe all as nothing, would that person even though they did not believe that as a truth, would they expereince it anyways if that is what the majority of the collective believe? Or would I expereince it the way I believe? How much does our belifs effect what we experience? A person can experience all kinds of illusions, so how are you going to know if what you are experiencing is an illusion or if it is a truth, which is and never changes no matter what one's beleifs in it is or not. I believe in absolute truths that is not changed by what we believe. > > > > So how can you tell if you are experiencing an absolute truth or just an illusion created by the creature's (mankind) imagination? > > > > Love > > Linda > > > > , shrikant phule <shrikantphule@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Purple, > > > When You are performing Sayama/concentration on any thing or nothing you become one with that point of concentration ,you become one with the universal consciousnes. At firsr there is light then nothingness.You are not aware of that point.Then no time factor exsists.What do you thinkof this?..........................shrikant > > > > > > --- On Tue, 1/9/09, Melissa Corrieri <purple_firefly111@> wrote: > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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