Guest guest Posted September 11, 2009 Report Share Posted September 11, 2009 We all are part of one and composed of energy in dense or subtle forms. If however, you were to attempt to describe or classify the levels by way of some sort of taxonomic construct how would you relate god or that collective oneness to kundalini energy, and where then would you place your higher self in that overall picture? In the context of surrender and in the light of your take on the above relationships, what does surrender really mean to you in terms of who you are surrendering to? Just curious on the different perspectives of the group. Blessings all and may this shaktipat add some of that richness in terms of progression along this shared path of learning. Jonathan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 11, 2009 Report Share Posted September 11, 2009 Kundalini is dormant energy that lies in our body in coiled form. We are creation of God or his lila. Our body exsists till we breathe. We are not part of God. God is one and not made of parts. He is omnipotent,omnipresent and omniscient. Our soul or higher self is reflection of supreme soul or holy spirit. Reflection can not be that is reflected. Cleaner the pot and contents clearer is the reflection. Awakening Kundalini is one of the path to self realization by surrendering. Self realization can take place faster by awakening of K than other paths. We are limited in this limited body,therefore we have limit to our knowledge. ......................shrikant............................... ________________________________ jonrow_2914 <jrowland Friday, 11 September, 2009 4:18:33 PM God/divinity, kundalini, higher self? We all are part of one and composed of energy in dense or subtle forms. If however, you were to attempt to describe or classify the levels by way of some sort of taxonomic construct how would you relate god or that collective oneness to kundalini energy, and where then would you place your higher self in that overall picture? In the context of surrender and in the light of your take on the above relationships, what does surrender really mean to you in terms of who you are surrendering to? Just curious on the different perspectives of the group. Blessings all and may this shaktipat add some of that richness in terms of progression along this shared path of learning. Jonathan See the Web & #39;s breaking stories, chosen by people like you. Check out Buzz. http://in.buzz./ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 11, 2009 Report Share Posted September 11, 2009 Shrikant, I am still getting lost in the difference between K and holy Spirit and have been doing alot of reading of articles and it is still unclear...from what I understand they are one in the same. Is this your understanding? I am also working with getting rid of resistance towards surrender, and it is something that cannot happen in the mind(ego), and takes faith and trust in the unseen, which K or the holy spirit is. I used to equate it with defeat, but now I understand it more so...as I did not " flow " with the K when it awakened or surrendered, that I created my own blocks/problems with the K. I know one teacher asked me what/who is God to you? I had a hard time defining who God is to her, and in fact...it is still a work in progress. She said...no wonder you are having resistance, as it is not clear who/what you are surrendering to, and if it is not clear, surrender most likely may feel like it is going to your own crucifixtion. That has been good fuel to help me in my own surrender process. Blessings, Lorree , shrikant phule <shrikantphule wrote: > > Kundalini is dormant energy that lies in our body in coiled form. > We are creation of God or his lila. > Our body exsists till we breathe. > We are not part of God. > God is one and not made of parts. > He is omnipotent,omnipresent and omniscient. > Our soul or higher self is reflection of supreme soul or holy spirit. > Reflection can not be that is reflected. > Cleaner the pot and contents clearer is the reflection. > Awakening Kundalini is one of the path to self realization by surrendering. > Self realization can take place faster by awakening of K than other paths. > We are limited in this limited body,therefore we have limit to our knowledge. > ......................shrikant............................... > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 11, 2009 Report Share Posted September 11, 2009 Can shakti be more powerful than one who holds it ? In the different elements we find electrons and protons rotating and revolving around the nucleus;although elements like silver ,gold ,thorium etc are not live they have the power.They are controlled by whom ? It is the power of God who is controlling.Power can not be higher than the controller.Thus K power or any power can not be same as God or higher than God.I refered Holy spirit as God or supreme soul....................shrikant ________________________________ lorree000 <lorree000 Friday, 11 September, 2009 7:46:58 PM Re: God/divinity, kundalini, higher self? Shrikant, I am still getting lost in the difference between K and holy Spirit and have been doing alot of reading of articles and it is still unclear...from what I understand they are one in the same. Is this your understanding? I am also working with getting rid of resistance towards surrender, and it is something that cannot happen in the mind(ego), and takes faith and trust in the unseen, which K or the holy spirit is. I used to equate it with defeat, but now I understand it more so...as I did not " flow " with the K when it awakened or surrendered, that I created my own blocks/problems with the K. I know one teacher asked me what/who is God to you? I had a hard time defining who God is to her, and in fact...it is still a work in progress. She said...no wonder you are having resistance, as it is not clear who/what you are surrendering to, and if it is not clear, surrender most likely may feel like it is going to your own crucifixtion. That has been good fuel to help me in my own surrender process. Blessings, Lorree Kundalini-Awakening -Systems- 1 , shrikant phule <shrikantphule@ ...> wrote: > > Kundalini is dormant energy that lies in our body in coiled form. > We are creation of God or his lila. > Our body exsists till we breathe. > We are not part of God. > God is one and not made of parts. > He is omnipotent,omnipres ent and omniscient. > Our soul or higher self is reflection of supreme soul or holy spirit. > Reflection can not be that is reflected. > Cleaner the pot and contents clearer is the reflection. > Awakening Kundalini is one of the path to self realization by surrendering. > Self realization can take place faster by awakening of K than other paths. > We are limited in this limited body,therefore we have limit to our knowledge. > ............ ......... shrikant. .......... ......... ......... ... > > Love Cricket? Check out live scores, photos, video highlights and more. Click here http://cricket. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 11, 2009 Report Share Posted September 11, 2009 Shrikant, " Thus K power or any power can not be same as God or higher than God. " I thought Kundalini is Shanti, vital force, holy spirit or whatever one calls it and IS God in divine flow? Thanks for allowing me to undertand this better...I guess you can tell I am analytic and my background is such... Lorree , shrikant phule <shrikantphule wrote: > > Can shakti be more powerful than one who holds it ? > In the different elements we find electrons and protons rotating and revolving around the nucleus;although elements like silver ,gold ,thorium etc are not live they have the power.They are controlled by whom ? It is the power of God who is controlling.Power can not be higher than the controller.Thus K power or any power can not be same as God or higher than God.I refered Holy spirit as God or supreme soul....................shrikant > > > > > ________________________________ > lorree000 <lorree000 > > Friday, 11 September, 2009 7:46:58 PM > Re: God/divinity, kundalini, higher self? > > > Shrikant, > > I am still getting lost in the difference between K and holy Spirit and have been doing alot of reading of articles and it is still unclear...from what I understand they are one in the same. Is this your understanding? > > I am also working with getting rid of resistance towards surrender, and it is something that cannot happen in the mind(ego), and takes faith and trust in the unseen, which K or the holy spirit is. I used to equate it with defeat, but now I understand it more so...as I did not " flow " with the K when it awakened or surrendered, that I created my own blocks/problems with the K. > > I know one teacher asked me what/who is God to you? I had a hard time defining who God is to her, and in fact...it is still a work in progress. She said...no wonder you are having resistance, as it is not clear who/what you are surrendering to, and if it is not clear, surrender most likely may feel like it is going to your own crucifixtion. That has been good fuel to help me in my own surrender process. > > Blessings, > Lorree > > Kundalini-Awakening -Systems- 1 , shrikant phule <shrikantphule@ ...> wrote: > > > > Kundalini is dormant energy that lies in our body in coiled form. > > We are creation of God or his lila. > > Our body exsists till we breathe. > > We are not part of God. > > God is one and not made of parts. > > He is omnipotent,omnipres ent and omniscient. > > Our soul or higher self is reflection of supreme soul or holy spirit. > > Reflection can not be that is reflected. > > Cleaner the pot and contents clearer is the reflection. > > Awakening Kundalini is one of the path to self realization by surrendering. > > Self realization can take place faster by awakening of K than other paths. > > We are limited in this limited body,therefore we have limit to our knowledge. > > ............ ......... shrikant. .......... ......... ......... ... > > > Love Cricket? Check out live scores, photos, video highlights and more. Click here http://cricket. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 11, 2009 Report Share Posted September 11, 2009 I think I am analytical too, I have been trying to figure all that out for years now. I thought the word shanti means peace. In which, when one is baptized with the Holy Spirit one receives a peace that surpasses understaning, joy unspeakable and the ability to love unconditionally. From what I am understanding, these are the same as what one recieves in K awakening. Then there are gifts that are recieved. Is that right? This is what happens with Kundalini as well? When one surrenders to the Holy Spirit's or Kundalini's agenda then all goes well, but if you resist in doing what is asked of you then things do not go so well. Self realization would be to come to a " knowing " that you are one with God, but not as just head knowledge, but expeience it the way Jesus did. Is that right? Linda , " lorree000 " <lorree000 wrote: > > Shrikant, > " Thus K power or any power can not be same as God or higher than God. " > > I thought Kundalini is Shanti, vital force, holy spirit or whatever one calls it and IS God in divine flow? > > Thanks for allowing me to undertand this better...I guess you can tell I am analytic and my background is such... > > Lorree Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 11, 2009 Report Share Posted September 11, 2009 Inside of our polarities it is sometimes difficult to be able to find linear logical explanations to that which is outside of the expressive dual paradigm. These understandings can be received and in a small way understood through a compressed format of multiple meanings. Kundalini and High Selves are one and plural. God is also one and plural. Surrender is at once a reception of a condition as well as the consciousness of that condition. A process that has consciousness. Divinity is not limited to the expected construct that the limited human " mind " has become comfortable with. Multiple compressions of many strands of agenda and choice constantly move and ignite the many facets of the divine evolution.imho. - chrism , " jonrow_2914 " <jrowland wrote: > > We all are part of one and composed of energy in dense or subtle forms. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 11, 2009 Report Share Posted September 11, 2009 Dear Chrism,Now in my fully awakened state I have understood the meaning of God is one and plural, Kundalini is one and plural.The Golden coloured thumb size being was higher self.Your article in the newspaper in the readers column I dreamt and your email convey the same meaning.Generally I forget my dreams but this was distinctive.Please give your opinion.................shrikant ________________________________ <> Friday, 11 September, 2009 11:48:48 PM Re: God/divinity, kundalini, higher self? Inside of our polarities it is sometimes difficult to be able to find linear logical explanations to that which is outside of the expressive dual paradigm. These understandings can be received and in a small way understood through a compressed format of multiple meanings. Kundalini and High Selves are one and plural. God is also one and plural. Surrender is at once a reception of a condition as well as the consciousness of that condition. A process that has consciousness. Divinity is not limited to the expected construct that the limited human " mind " has become comfortable with. Multiple compressions of many strands of agenda and choice constantly move and ignite the many facets of the divine evolution.imho. - chrism Kundalini-Awakening -Systems- 1 , " jonrow_2914 " <jrowland@.. .> wrote: > > We all are part of one and composed of energy in dense or subtle forms. See the Web & #39;s breaking stories, chosen by people like you. Check out Buzz. http://in.buzz./ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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