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loro has joined the conference.

 

Adrian Velazco has joined the conference.

 

Brad Smith has joined the conference.

 

Neil Gilchrist has joined the conference.

 

William Mitchell has joined the conference.

 

Carla Dornan: No, thank you.

Messenger: Carla Dornan has declined to join.

Janet . Miller has joined the conference.

 

shrikantphule has joined the conference.

 

oreganorose has joined the conference.

 

yogijan has joined the conference.

 

Brad Smith: hello everyone!

Neil Gilchrist: Hi Brad

aarni.kimmo has joined the conference.

 

Adrian Velazco: hello

William Mitchell: Good Morning Brad

Brad Smith: neil can you hear?

Brad Smith: Hi Bill!

: ello everyone!

Neil Gilchrist: No but I can see the typing

loro: brad i cannot hear is c talking as yet

: your mic.

Brad Smith: okay, i'll type what says

Brad Smith: we hear you Chrism

Adrian Velazco: good morning

Brad Smith: says Good morning

Brad Smith: good afternoon

loro: i have lots mote to invite so wait please

William Mitchell: Loud and clear Chrism, Good Morning

Brad Smith: good evening

Brad Smith: hello to Shrikant

Brad Smith: hellos to everyone

Neil Gilchrist: Hi Chrism

Brad Smith: Can you hear Neil?

Neil Gilchrist: No

Carla Dornan: No, thank you.

Messenger: Carla Dornan has declined to join.

loro: i can not hear well ina ndout

Brad Smith: is saying hello to Shrikant

Janet . Miller: im here hello i cannot hear anything though

Brad Smith: thanking him for joining us in India

loro: brad invite maggie andy jonathan

Brad Smith: I will type for Janet, no worries

Neil Gilchrist: My speakers work for everything else except Mess

Janet . Miller: thankyou brad

: I am fine Shrikant good to see you here!

Brad Smith: Maggie, andy and Jonathan are invited

Brad Smith: though looks like so far, andy was the only one online

iamwaitingmoon has joined the conference.

 

Linda has joined the conference.

 

wtw11171 has joined the conference.

 

Andrew Preston has joined the conference.

 

Linda: No, thank you.

Messenger: Linda has declined to join.

: Hello Rose!

oreganorose: hello

: Andrew hello!

wtw11171: Hello and all

Andrew Preston: Hey guys!

: Danielle Hello!

loro: chrism are you talking

iamwaitingmoon: Hi and all.

: Janet nice to see you here!

Brad Smith: He's not speaking yet

: Warren Good sunday to you!

wtw11171: and to you

Andrew Preston: What a great surprise, just arrived back from a long journey in

time for this!

wtw11171: y

Adrian Velazco: y

aarni.kimmo: Y

iamwaitingmoon: y

oreganorose: y

yogijan: y

loro: i can not hear

Brad Smith: Type y if you can hear chrism

Brad Smith: no if you cannot

Neil Gilchrist: no

Andrew Preston: no

aarni.kimmo: Thank you

Brad Smith: welcomes everyone

Brad Smith: we are not ready to start yet

Brad Smith: people are still joining us

Brad Smith: we will start in about 10 minutes

William Mitchell: y

Adrian Velazco: I'm in Northern California!

Brad Smith: for those who can not hear, I'm typing for Chrism

Brad Smith: says he may be kicked of the internet from time to time

Brad Smith: no worries, if it happens

loro: why can i not hear well please

Brad Smith: might kick off

Brad Smith: he will get back on, no worries

Edok Ananda has joined the conference.

 

Brad Smith: is not sure why you can't hear

David Gottlieb has joined the conference.

 

Brad Smith: nice to see you Bill

William Mitchell: thank you chrism

William Mitchell: nice to hear you

Brad Smith: Good morning to Edgar

Brad Smith: Nice to see you David, thanks for joining

David Gottlieb: Hello and thank you!

Brad Smith: Happy sunday to Edgar

Adrian Velazco: y

David Gottlieb: y

Brad Smith: can everyone hear okay

William Mitchell: scratchy but not bad

wtw11171: y I hear fine

oreganorose: y

iamwaitingmoon: y

Edok Ananda: y

aarni.kimmo: some thumps but ok

William Mitchell: thank you bradly and !

Brad Smith: chrism thanks brad and

Brad Smith: for helping to organize

Brad Smith: Thanks to you chrism for everything too!

wtw11171: thank you brad and

David Gottlieb: Much thanks to you both!

Brad Smith: Craig should be in in a second

Brad Smith: LInda and Craig need in

chrism has joined the conference.

 

chrism: I'm a chrism again?

Linda has joined the conference.

 

Edok Ananda: Good Sunday to everybody, Bradly &

Brad Smith: he appears as Craig A to me Chrism, not sure why on your computer he

does that

Brad Smith: , can you invite Elektra?

loro: no

loro: she is not on my list

Linda: hi chris thanks and back at you

Brad Smith: elektra.fire

Brad Smith: if you try the other invite

Brad Smith: i just did it, with her id chrism

Brad Smith: i hope it works

Brad Smith: 5 min before start all

Andrew Preston: elktras is .co.uk not .com if that helps

Brad Smith: any questions now?

Brad Smith: please type your questions everyone

Brad Smith: and unclick the handsfree button please

Deborah Fiore has joined the conference.

 

Deborah Fiore: hi kundas its deb

: hello deb!

Brad Smith: Shrikant, can you unclick the handsfree button now please?

Deborah Fiore: hi chrism!

loro: i cannot get elektra on

loro: someone please invite her ELEKTRA>FIRE

loro: elektra.fire

Brad Smith: I've tried...

wtw11171: I tired

chrism: I tried too

loro: elektra signed out

Brad Smith: I think it is something to do with the 'great firewall of China'

William Mitchell: LOL

William Mitchell: Maybe have her reboot the computer

loro: brad did you try jonathan

Brad Smith: yes

Brad Smith: welcomes everyone

Brad Smith: names everyone by name

Brad Smith: welcoming all

aarni.kimmo: tried inviting elektra

Brad Smith: and thanks everyone for coming

Deborah Fiore: i still have no sound - i did upload the latest version but so

forgive me if i don't hear you -

: no hadphones deb?

Brad Smith: everyone please unclick the hands free button on the left, just

above the text typing window

: headphones

Deborah Fiore: yes have those - its a mac issue

Brad Smith: so only chrism will speak

: ahh.

Deborah Fiore:

Brad Smith: okay, the student conference is about deepening the connection to

the kundalini

Brad Smith: as it is expressed through the kas1 system

Brad Smith: will talk slower this time

Brad Smith: so bradly can keep up

Brad Smith: he thanks me for typing

Brad Smith: and allowing those that can't be hear to read this who are on the

group

Brad Smith: issue invitations to elektra

elektra.fire has joined the conference.

 

loro: yeah

Brad Smith: we are here to deepen our connection to the kundalini

loro: we did it

Andrew Preston: woohoo

Brad Smith: through how it is given through the kas1 site

Brad Smith: if stops from time to time, no worries

Brad Smith: he will come back online

Brad Smith: realize why we are here

Brad Smith: what our purpose is

Brad Smith: begin to get a dramatic understanding of what is bringing us here

Brad Smith: Shrikant please turn off your microphone

Brad Smith: Shakti has a tremendous personality

William Mitchell: shrikant you're mic is cutting out chrism

Brad Smith: says he doesn't

wtw11171: shirkant needs to turn off hands free

Brad Smith: Shrikant, can you hear us?

: hello shrikant?

Brad Smith: make sure the hands free box has NO checkmark in it

Brad Smith: lol, okay?

Brad Smith: or manually unplug your microphone

Brad Smith: thank you!

: thank you my friend!

wtw11171: mute

Brad Smith: talking about removing microphones...

Brad Smith: Shrikant, we can still hear you...

Brad Smith: speakers are ok, microphone unplugged please

Brad Smith: a little louder please chrism!

wtw11171: you can mute the mic in your sound icon

Brad Smith: as we listen, please ground ourselves in the reality

Brad Smith: of being here

Brad Smith: tap into the fact that the kundalini is expressing or potentially

expressing through us

Brad Smith: this is something that we want to

Adrian Velazco: breaking up chrism

Brad Smith: we didn't catch that Chrism

wtw11171: y breaking up

yogijan: y

elektra.fire: hello

Brad Smith: can everyone understand chrism

loro: no can barely hear you

wtw11171: y

Brad Smith: y for yes

oreganorose: y

William Mitchell: understand yes and not too loud

Adrian Velazco: y

chrism: y

aarni.kimmo: y

loro: n

yogijan: y

Linda: y

Brad Smith: y

Edok Ananda: y

David Gottlieb: I cannot hear chrism at all

loro: electra is now on

Andrew Preston: i cant hear anything, just following the text

loro: yes it is at high

Brad Smith: do you have a volume swithch?

elektra.fire: i dont get sound

Linda: breaking up off and on, much like Wed

Brad Smith: try to adjust that

loro: was better last time

Brad Smith: no worries elektra, glad you made it in

: david are you on headphoines and mic?

Brad Smith: Bradly is typing for chrism

elektra.fire: thanks to everyone

David Gottlieb: headphones good, mic turned off. I heard you fine earlier.

Brad Smith: says maybe he'll get a new microphone

Brad Smith: maybe the problem is with his microphone

Brad Smith: he'll get one soon

iamwaitingmoon: lol

Edok Ananda: haha

William Mitchell: LOL

Brad Smith: no worries Chrism

Linda: hehe

Brad Smith: lets keep going

Brad Smith: chrism jokes about shopping for a mike right now

Brad Smith: because this is a student conference

Brad Smith: chrism wants to get right into what this is about

Brad Smith: Who has made a public declaartion about being as student?

Brad Smith: y for yes

elektra.fire: y

Adrian Velazco: y

Brad Smith: y

Neil Gilchrist: y

William Mitchell: y

aarni.kimmo: y

Deborah Fiore: y

chrism: y

Edok Ananda: y

David Gottlieb: Y

Andrew Preston: y

loro: y

Linda: y

Janet . Miller: y

yogijan: y

oreganorose: y

iamwaitingmoon: y-private

Brad Smith: from that declaration that you made

Brad Smith: source yourself right now

wtw11171: y

Brad Smith: go inside and see what your current feeling about this is right now

Brad Smith: see what it is, what does your heart tell you

Brad Smith: is this right for you, is this what you want to do

Brad Smith: give yourself a few seconds

wtw11171: y

iamwaitingmoon: y

William Mitchell: YES

aarni.kimmo: y

Brad Smith: if this is still something that you want to explore

loro: y

Adrian Velazco: y

oreganorose: y

chrism: y

Edok Ananda: YES

Brad Smith: write a y for a yes

yogijan: y

David Gottlieb: yes

Brad Smith: or n for no

Janet . Miller: y

Brad Smith: y

Andrew Preston: yes

Deborah Fiore: y

Neil Gilchrist: y

elektra.fire: y

Linda: y

Brad Smith: for those who wrote a y

Brad Smith: chrism wishes to discuss the scatterfield now

Brad Smith: soon he will attach the scatterfield to us

Brad Smith: about 4 feet above our left shoulder

Brad Smith: same as for the shaktipat

Brad Smith: this is for communication

Brad Smith: breaking up Chrism!!!

wtw11171: can't hear

Brad Smith: this is for specific energetics

Brad Smith: apologizes for his microphone

Adrian Velazco: no

iamwaitingmoon: n

Brad Smith: n

William Mitchell: No

yogijan: n

chrism: no, you sound far away

oreganorose: n

Adrian Velazco: y

William Mitchell: yes

chrism: y

Edok Ananda: n

Brad Smith: asked if what he was doing was better or worse

yogijan: y

oreganorose: y

Adrian Velazco: y

William Mitchell: way better

iamwaitingmoon: y

chrism: y

Brad Smith: y

aarni.kimmo: didn't get the guestion

aarni.kimmo: now it's better

William Mitchell: LOL

Brad Smith: aarni, he was just asking how his microphone sounded

loro: brad can you try caraleen98

William Mitchell: no

wtw11171: I hear nothing

yogijan: n

Adrian Velazco: y

aarni.kimmo: yes

iamwaitingmoon: y

chrism: y

Edok Ananda: y

loro: better

William Mitchell: y

oreganorose: y

Linda: y

yogijan: y

Adrian Velazco: much better

Brad Smith: can eveyrone hear now?

Brad Smith: y

wtw11171: oh well

Brad Smith: yes, that 's good chrism

chrism: missing some numbers

David Gottlieb: I'm on text only, but thanks to Bradly, seeing all the text.

wtw11171: n

Brad Smith: Warren, please read the text

Brad Smith: will go slow so bradly can type

Brad Smith: the scatterfield is 4 ft above the left shoulder

Brad Smith: it is the point of communication

Brad Smith: it provides a conduit for energetic teachings

Brad Smith: via that scatterfield communication point

Andrew Preston: (I clicked the voice tab at the top twice and can now hear

chrism, if that helps anyone else...)

Brad Smith: it is of no concern, same as during a regular shaktipat

Andrew Preston: hi

wtw11171: good deal

wtw11171: think I can hear now

Brad Smith: continuing

Brad Smith: the fact that the new scatterfield will be permanent

Brad Smith: is like a fixture or connection to shakti through Chrism

Brad Smith: this does not make your kundalini the same as Chrisms

Brad Smith: it's more like accentuating it within it's own personal

Brad Smith: contextual platform

Brad Smith: it's a stimulation for your own kundalini

Brad Smith: rather than adopting chrism's kundalini

Brad Smith: most people wouldn't want Chrism's kundalini

Brad Smith: you need your own

Brad Smith: Chrism's can help yours

Brad Smith: but it is not there to replace it

William Mitchell: y

Adrian Velazco: y

chrism: y

Andrew Preston: y

aarni.kimmo: y

iamwaitingmoon: y

loro: y

wtw11171: y

Brad Smith: does everybody understand?

yogijan: y

oreganorose: y

Linda: y

Edok Ananda: y

Brad Smith: y for yes

Brad Smith: y

Deborah Fiore: y

Neil Gilchrist: y

Janet . Miller: y

elektra.fire: y

David Gottlieb: y

Brad Smith: did a radio interview with margaret and

Brad Smith: on the radio program

Brad Smith: on blog talk radio on All We ARe

Brad Smith: at one point talking about himself getting results

Brad Smith: but he wants it to be clear

Brad Smith: that it is not him, that gets results

Brad Smith: but it is the Shakti kundalini that gets results

Brad Smith: chrism was troubled that he miscommunicated that

Brad Smith: he was communicated with by shakti last night

Brad Smith: and was reminded that it is the kundalini or shakti that gets the

results

Brad Smith: he stresses us to make our best efforts to always be clear about

this

Brad Smith: it's never the little ego person

Brad Smith: it's always the higher divine aspects of the individual

Brad Smith: the individual is the conduit

Brad Smith: please listen to the interview

Brad Smith: links on the main group on the posts

Brad Smith: Chrism? you broke up???

William Mitchell: lost ya chrism

Edok Ananda: i did last nyt

Brad Smith: the responsibilities of the student will be as follows

Brad Smith: practice the safeties is the most important things

Brad Smith: if you are not practicing, the scatterfield will know

Brad Smith: everyone's practice is unique

Brad Smith: one second Chrism...

Brad Smith: SHRIKANT... microphone off!!!!

Brad Smith: asks if you could please get your microphone unplugged

Brad Smith: lol

William Mitchell: ugh

Adrian Velazco: I put shrikant on ignore, and he is no longer cutting in

Adrian Velazco: if that helps

Adrian Velazco: right click his name

Adrian Velazco: and click ignore

William Mitchell: nice, I just did too

wtw11171: right click what

William Mitchell: shrikants name

Andrew Preston: his name

Brad Smith: okay, but lets please 'unignore' him once chrism is done speaking

loro: i do not see ignore

Brad Smith: chrism is talking about how to turn off Shrikants microphone

Brad Smith: so eveyrone can hear him clearly

William Mitchell: right click on shrikant's name in the connected users list

shrikantphule will be ignored.

loro: yes

William Mitchell: ignore is near the bottom

Brad Smith: yes

Brad Smith: the practice of the safeties is very important

Brad Smith: for those with active kundalini

Brad Smith: the safeties will modulate your kundalini

Brad Smith: chrism will make contact with everyone via computer or telephone

Brad Smith: little one on one conferences

Brad Smith: he will initiate eveyrone's individual educational platform

wtw11171: ok

wtw11171: y

chrism: y

loro: y

William Mitchell: Y

Adrian Velazco: y

yogijan: y

Edok Ananda: y

Brad Smith: indicate with a y if you wish this done

oreganorose: y

elektra.fire: y

Brad Smith: y

Linda: y

David Gottlieb: y

Andrew Preston: y

Neil Gilchrist: y

Janet . Miller: y

aarni.kimmo: y

Deborah Fiore: y

iamwaitingmoon: y

Brad Smith: chrism will begin to schedule these talks

Brad Smith: he needs to talk to everyone in real time

Brad Smith: at this point

loro: have tried numerous times

wtw11171: who

loro: she can not get on

Brad Smith: done

Brad Smith: chrism will open it up for questions right now

Brad Smith: type out your questions if you have one at this time

Adrian Velazco: I have a question

Adrian Velazco: last conference you said that some martial arts may interfere

with the scatterfield

wtw11171: I see no questions

Adrian Velazco: I can't remember exactly

Brad Smith: chrism says the martial arts won't interfere with the scatterfield

Brad Smith: as far as martial arts goes

Adrian Velazco: I'm doing taekwondo and yoga

Brad Smith: it depends on the type

Brad Smith: if you are doing a martial art, like a battle type in the astral

state against entities

Brad Smith: that might affect things

Brad Smith: only one person chrism knows of was doing that

Brad Smith: martial arts in and of themselves are good for the condition of the

physical and mental body

wtw11171: What about exorcisms

Adrian Velazco: I'm doing it for mental and physical conditioning. I don't know

anything about battling with astral entities.

Brad Smith: the martial arts are not so good, when it comes to initiating

competition against others

Brad Smith: and for ego based things about winning and losing

Brad Smith: when it is about comparing yourselves to others, it's not good

Adrian Velazco: I understand

Brad Smith: these are things to watch out for when you engage in martial arts

Linda: Yesterday on the radio you said a person who is ill should not send

healing to others. Could you explain more about that?

Brad Smith: he asks us to keep those things in mind

Brad Smith: other questions?

wtw11171: Exorcisms

Brad Smith: is talking about linda's question

Brad Smith: he says if you are not balanced in your own process

Brad Smith: you perhaps shouldn't be sending healing

Brad Smith: it was around a specific example about a certain doctor he was

talking about

Brad Smith: Chrism, too fast, and your breaking up a bit!

Brad Smith: people giving healing to others, needs to be balanced themselves

loro: slow down please chrism

Brad Smith: to the degree you can clean up your own life and do things for

yourselves

Brad Smith: if you are sick yourself, you shouldn't be giving healing to others

Linda: OK thanks

Brad Smith: if you are sick in bed, you need to save the energy for yourself to

heal your own condition

Brad Smith: that is what wanted to point out

Brad Smith: he wants to speak about Exorcisms now

Brad Smith: the casting out of demons

Brad Smith: they are pretty much only done by Catholic preists

Brad Smith: in those applications, certain entities have come into individuals

and are causing problems

wtw11171: SOme times there are house exorcisms

Brad Smith: lots of people carry consciousness that is not our own, in certain

places in our body

wtw11171: evil spirit is not in person but controling the home

Brad Smith: these entities gain powere through fear they evoke

Brad Smith: a body can be like a house

Brad Smith: yes some people can release them through a pillar of light

wtw11171: I have had to do this before

Brad Smith: these are fairly inocuous applications

wtw11171: IT does not occur on an everyday basis

Brad Smith: once people get beyond the fear of entities, seeing fantastic things

wtw11171: If I should get a call to do this. Is this allowed

Brad Smith: the exorcisms are not much of an issue after you move beyond these

areas

wtw11171: Yes I have

Brad Smith: asks warren if he is participating in these activities....

wtw11171: I usually use the rite of exorcsim

wtw11171: offer mass

Brad Smith: and how he is doing them

wtw11171: and burn incense

wtw11171: thrrough the home

wtw11171: I also light candle

wtw11171: open window

wtw11171: yes

Brad Smith: asks warren if it helps

wtw11171: I bring relics

wtw11171: and ask for the intercsession of siast

wtw11171: saimts

Brad Smith: chrism doesn't see a problem with it

elektra.fire: what did warren say

wtw11171: this will not affect kundalini

Brad Smith: as long as he keeps the activities balanced in a loving way

wtw11171: no

Brad Smith: if he goes in to 'do battle with demons' it might be bad

wtw11171: I do this out of love

Brad Smith: yes, chrism wants brad to rephrase

Brad Smith: go ahead C

Brad Smith: if he goes in with a warrior mode in to cast out demons in the name

of christ

Brad Smith: he may be buying into a fear aspect of it

Brad Smith: better to enter in a loving way

wtw11171: if you go in negative it is easy for evil spirit to poses you

Brad Smith: you have no clue if it is a demon or not

wtw11171: spirit feeds on emotion

Brad Smith: and if it is a demonic expression

wtw11171: yes

Brad Smith: if you can keep it within the confines of the safeties expression

that would be best

Brad Smith: and keep in mind, what you are casting out can jump into you

wtw11171: good enough

Brad Smith: so keep your mind, spirit and everything clean

Brad Smith: everyone kundalini accentuates entity contact

Brad Smith: if you place yourself in a situation where you confront entities

Brad Smith: whether from courage or desire to help

Brad Smith: if your own personal fear levels are unbalanced

Brad Smith: then the entity may follow you home

Adrian Velazco: Chrism, i find it hard to believe in entities, because I haven't

seen them.

Brad Smith: it's not something that chrism recomends to go about setting up

pillars of light in graveyards

Brad Smith: but if you have a calling for it, you may

Brad Smith: Chrism, Eilleeen will tyep for a bit

Brad Smith:

loro: invite edgar please

Brad Smith: go ahead!

loro: c says you get authentic expereince

Andrew Preston: I have a question; For someone who is not k awakened, is it

through the practice of the safeties and tibetans alone you can awaken your k,

or is that alone not enough? i.e do you have to also have to have shaktipat

loro: any otehr ?'s

wtw11171: good question

loro: for some people the meredepending on your situation

loro: shaktipat for yo to have a balnced awakeing

loro: becuase of lives you influence

Andrew Preston: agree totally, it is a worry given my job

loro: teacher and you come intot hte lives of children not condusive to

force Kundalini

Andrew Preston: yeh they have enough problems without seeing that

loro: not a good idea to have kryias in front of kids

Andrew Preston: it is something I think about a lot

loro: brad invite lazarus please

wtw11171: Some times I have pressure in third eye and maybe tingling in back. Am

I in an ealry awakening

loro: so we go slowly we do not rush things

loro: safeties is important part of process

loro: shakti knows what you need now

loro: at this point

Adrian Velazco: I read an interesting quote the other day " Do not seek what you

desire, instead seek the source of the desire " . Is it perhaps this seeking of

awakening K within ourselves, blocking the expression of it?

loro: best for yo to go slow

Andrew Preston: thanks chrism

loro: warren

loro: you are

loro: also

loro: warren do not do exorcisms

wtw11171: I did not hthink so

loro: welcome andrew

wtw11171: THat is why I was asking

loro: lazarus

loro: any other /'s

loro: ?'s

loro: no worries

Edok Ananda: thank you chrism i got disconnected sorry

loro: brad take over i need to invite folks

wtw11171: you are beaking up

wtw11171: maybe we can discuss thie more on phone

Brad Smith: Brad typing again for Chrism

: I ned an invitation

William Mitchell: chrism d/c?

Brad Smith: Hold on folks

Brad Smith: he will be back in a second

: invite p[lease

loro: he may have to reboot

loro: i can not get matt or lazarus on

Brad Smith: No worries everyone, hold on

: Ok I am tping

Edok Ananda: im in but i cant hear anything

Brad Smith: chrism isn't speaking at the moment

: Thats because I AM TYPING

Edok Ananda: oh ok lol

William Mitchell: LOL

William Mitchell: Braly, can you speak for Shrism's typing please?

: So another ?

William Mitchell: *chrism

Brad Smith: Chrism, change your font size and colour if you can, it's just about

the typing window

: yes

Brad Smith: Hold on eveyrone, he'll start typing in a second

: ok how is this

Andrew Preston: lovely

wtw11171: good

Brad Smith: good

chrism: good

Edok Ananda:

Adrian Velazco: I see you

William Mitchell: make it red Chrism

: Any more questions?

wtw11171: we can move on from my question and discuss my situation on the phone

: okm

: OK warren

: Anyone else?

loro: you mentioned

: So to get back to the student resposibilities.

loro: that we will be working with others

: ?

loro: here in the group

loro: other students

loro: can you speak to this

: No not byet.\

loro: ok

: This nwill be individual with me for the time being.

Brad Smith: You want us all to make a hardcopy of the safeties?

: At first then we can begin to meld others into a group situation.

loro: ty

: Yes make it so if you wish.

: I will stress that the teaching will occur on the groupsite so

please understand this unless it is of a personal nature.

: I will give instruction that will comprise general guidlines as

well as individual teachings as I am given to do.

wtw11171: what about those who did not wish to be involved

wtw11171: were there any here

: TRhere are those who will need the teaching being given to you

thqat are silent or in other ways unable to partqake of the student / teacher

relationship.

wtw11171: IC

: Is everyone ok with this?

wtw11171: y

elektra.fire: y

David Gottlieb: y

: please indicate with a Y

William Mitchell: yes

Andrew Preston: yep

chrism: y

Neil Gilchrist: y

Adrian Velazco: y

Deborah Fiore: y

oreganorose: y

aarni.kimmo: y

Brad Smith: y

Edok Ananda: yes

iamwaitingmoon: y

loro: y

yogijan: y

Janet . Miller: y

Linda: y

Edok Ananda: can u elaborate please

: will only let a p[erson be disconneced for so many time s

before it blocks the poerson out which is what has occurred for me this time.

elektra.fire: skype

Brad Smith: wishes to keep as much of the teachings on the main group so

all may benefit Edok

: If I ask you to do less spins becasue of your situation edgar I

will state this on the group.

Edok Ananda: ok thanks

: Thats what ni mean.

: Much of the teachings will come at night.

: Some of them due to sexual issues may contain components of

sexuality.

: .Please remember this is gfrom the Shakti and not from chrism,

wtw11171: I believe we should all be thankful to finally find what we have been

looking for all of our lives. We are going to receive the ability to become

Saints. What a gift.

: n our world there are many issues that are comprised of repressed

sexual situations

: These block a person in very special ways.

: Kundalini Shakti will strive to unblock these issues in a person.

: So please understand this.

: In qa very real way warren.

: Please understand that there will be no separation

: between your everyday life and the infused life of a person.

: Meaning that everyt decsion every chpoice will be made from the

aspect of

: the clarity given from the Kundalini.

: This begins to create a melding of divine consciousness and mundane

consciousness.

: This is whereI am coming from at this moment.

: The divine flesh.

elektra.fire:

wtw11171:

: Does everyone understand?

aarni.kimmo: y

wtw11171: y

chrism: y

David Gottlieb: y

loro: y

Andrew Preston: yes

Neil Gilchrist: y

Deborah Fiore: y

yogijan: y

Adrian Velazco: y

William Mitchell: y

oreganorose: y

elektra.fire: y

Linda: y

Edok Ananda: y

Janet . Miller: y

iamwaitingmoon: y

Brad Smith: y

: You will no olonger be the you that you are, though you will

remember that you that you are right now.

: lol!

elektra.fire:

aarni.kimmo:

Edok Ananda: cool

: This will change the way you live your life.

: This will change the way life presents itself to you.

: please be prepared to embrace these cha nges.

wtw11171: Much of like living in a 4th dimension, yes?

wtw11171: feet on earth and head in clouds

: No not so exotic. More like living beyond current definitions.

wtw11171: ok

Edok Ananda:

: The exotic will come but these do not become permanenet until

later.

: Remember the need to be able to drive a car.

wtw11171: begining stages

wtw11171: IC

: Cant do that if you see entities that are standing in the way of

the car.

Linda: I do not see some of the questions asked

Andrew Preston: lol

wtw11171:

: not so many ? yet Linda.

: I want to encourage everyone to begin to embrace the

" otherwhereness " in their lives.

: Yeds to a large part many have already done this but in a real way

this has only been partitme.

chrism: what do you mean by otherwhereness?

: Iam suggesting a deeper connection with the inner Sun.

: This will require longer periods of meditation for many of you.

: For those already in the deep process such as Ded and others there

will be q more customized event calender. - lol!

Deborah Fiore: ohoh haha

: For those who are new to this please understand that once this

process is initiated there is no turning back or turning it off.

wtw11171: some times I have a difficult time doing compression breathing becsaue

of sinus issues. I still try to do them as best I can. Is this alright?

: It is most important to be in the conditioning mode before the

lights get turned on!

chrism: yeah tell me about it...lol

aarni.kimmo: me too

elektra.fire: Warren, i find that trying a tdifferent times in the day helps.

: When the sinus is plugges up for the lips into na purse as one

would do for whisteling and do the breathing in that way.

wtw11171: it makes no difference

elektra.fire: so u breathe through the mouth?

: through the pursed lips yes.

elektra.fire: ok

wtw11171: it is not all of the time

aarni.kimmo: and the half blocked nostril at the same time?

elektra.fire: still touch the nostril while brewathing?

: no if one side is blocked do not focus on the other side just go

with the pursed lips

wtw11171: it can be frustraing so I let go and do the best I can but I can try

what you are saying

: Also eucalyptus oil or perppermint oil can help to unblock the

sinus.

elektra.fire: neti pot

: right.

: So pleasecome back into an understanding of what we are looking at

for you.

Linda: If you hold your breath out for a while it helps to unblock as well

Brad Smith: reduce milk products?

wtw11171: Usually I smell a little bit of the muscle rub

wtw11171:

Deborah Fiore:

: Take a look at the " why' of your wish for Kundalini.

elektra.fire: beeen thinking a lot about that one

: Take a look at what you are willing to do.

: Take a look at your addiction to control.

yogijan: been looking at that one.

Andrew Preston: addiction control?

: For some of you i will ask a complete surrender.

: How does this feel to you?

aarni.kimmo: I'm okay

chrism: better each day

elektra.fire: OK

loro: fine

Deborah Fiore: me too

wtw11171: y

yogijan: vacillates.

oreganorose: good

William Mitchell: fine

David Gottlieb: y

Adrian Velazco: me too

Andrew Preston: fine

Brad Smith: ok

Edok Ananda: its fine

iamwaitingmoon: ummm, yes

Linda: ok with me

Neil Gilchrist: ok

Janet . Miller: fine

aarni.kimmo: why only some?

: Look at your qualifiers behind your answers.

: See what casues these fears.

: causes

elektra.fire: thats me right this moment!

wtw11171: ourselves the world we built around us

: Because not everyone has a problem with it. - lol!

chrism: I realized that I want change but I'm afraid that the change that comes

to me is not the change I want, lol

aarni.kimmo:

wtw11171: if we are willing to give that up then we are ready, yes?

: Tale a look at what (i) that is making that statement.

: take

iamwaitingmoon: divine-Divine.

chrism: yup, I've tried it my way for so long, doesnt work...

: The whole idea is to surrender to the Kundalini.

Adrian Velazco: the ego puts up a good fight

Lazarus Again has left the conference.

 

: That is the nature of what we do in regard to surrender.

Lazarus Again has joined the conference.

 

: So please look at your concerns about this and begin to make your

peace with it.Yes?

aarni.kimmo: y

loro: y

Edok Ananda: yes

Deborah Fiore: y

Andrew Preston: y

elektra.fire: y

chrism: y

Adrian Velazco: y

oreganorose: y

yogijan: y

wtw11171: y

Brad Smith: y

William Mitchell: y

Linda: y

: Bill may I nuse you as an example?

Janet . Miller: yes

David Gottlieb: I have a strong desire to surrender to the Goddess/Infinite and

to dissole over and over in Love and Light. The little i will cling and give

" me " cahllenges - I am willing to face them...

David Gottlieb: y

: Nice david yes this is exactly what I am writing of " these

challenges "

iamwaitingmoon: I might need to step away from the computer for a second

(kriyas)

: Ah yes go with that flow dear danielle!

William Mitchell: sure

: There Danielle is showing us how many of us will need to surrender!

elektra.fire:

: Do you see what I mean?

wtw11171: y

chrism: y

Brad Smith: y

aarni.kimmo: y

elektra.fire: y

Neil Gilchrist: y

Andrew Preston: yup, i think so

David Gottlieb: y

Linda: y

Edok Ananda: y

Adrian Velazco: y

William Mitchell: y

oreganorose: y

Deborah Fiore: y

loro: y

William Mitchell: yes chrism

: A while ago Bill thought he may be having a heart attack.

: Orpreheart attack symptoms.

: He mentioned it t me.

: I said that it was probqably the Kundalini right Bill?

wtw11171: I am not sure if this is surrender or not but I have to go take a

shower soon in order to get my children to their fall ball game. I also have to

coach.

wtw11171:

William Mitchell: that is exactly what you said

: Have a nice shower warren.

: As he went to have his heart checked nothing wrong could be found.

William Mitchell: nuclear stress test

William Mitchell: passed it fine

: He had to surrender to these symptoms even though it mimicked a

very grave concern for him and his family. This is another way and examplke of

surrender.

: Take a look at this for each and every one of you and see if you

are so prepatred.

wtw11171: I am surrendering to my childrens development. I would rather be here

but this a responsibility as well.

William Mitchell: hehe warren

: A heart attack can change a persons life or end it.

: So if you feel this occurring how are you going to relate to this

and the Kundalini?

: Think about it.

Adrian Velazco: It's hard to say what I would do until it actually happens

: Many people will just want to RUN!

wtw11171: If I start feeling like I am having chest pain I am not calling 911, I

am calling CHRISM first

: They will say OK OK ! I dont want Kundalini anymore just turn it

off NOW>

Deborah Fiore: or theres always hiding under the covers...but ...woops there u

are

chrism: lol

: Well warren I suggest that ypou do call 911. Go nthough all of the

testsand regamines. Dont ake the drugs if you can help if but yes go do the

medical thing.

: MD wont know about Kundalini typically.

wtw11171: can you not manipulate your self with kundalini when pain like this

occurs?

: So no need to mention it.

wtw11171: I am not usre if I said that correctly

elektra.fire: drink some hot cayenne pepper tea for heart attack

: Manipulate how?

chrism: Guess, I'm more surrendered in this aspect, don't have health insurance

nor the money to go the medical route, lol

Deborah Fiore: lol

: same with me. Enforced financial surrender. - lol!

wtw11171: transfer this negative feeling into something positve

Deborah Fiore: hahaha

elektra.fire:

Linda: hehe, I would rather go to chrism than a doctor

: Sure if this is what you can do at the time though pain tends to

change the mindset of a person and the potential nof dying tends to change a

persons mindset.

wtw11171: how did you deal with this?

: Kundalini can get throuygh the medical testing so it isnt an issue

just ask Bill!

wtw11171: did you just feel the pain

William Mitchell: pain is a good teacher, it definitely grabs your attention

Linda: shock treatment does too

: I just let it roll and surrender completely into the arms of the

Kundalini.

wtw11171: is the pain activating the 4th chakra

William Mitchell: I am glad I went through all of the tests, all along I knew it

was K, but I didn't mention that to any nurses or doctors

William Mitchell: did the tests more for the comfort of my family

: No its just a buring bthrough of a blockage but it can sure hurt!

Deborah Fiore: i did that too last yr with my kidneys / now i know

wtw11171: does it feel like heat

: This is why the conditioning process is so very important.

wtw11171: years ago I had this feeling

wtw11171: but it was not painful

: It feels like a hear attack.

: heart

wtw11171: I felt heat in my heat

wtw11171: heart

: no the same.

wtw11171: ok

: This is all about bsurrender.

William Mitchell: ya, I had no heat or mild discomfort, it was very painful, it

would make me curl up in fetal position for 10-15 minutes at times

wtw11171: I'll BE BACK

: I bring this up as an illustration. this will also come into your

emotional expressions.

: So inside of this context once again I will ask from you total and

as complete a surrender as you can do. Is this a reality for you?

Adrian Velazco: y

chrism: y

loro: y

Brad Smith: y

David Gottlieb: y

Deborah Fiore: y

Linda: y

elektra.fire: y

Andrew Preston: y

oreganorose: y

Edok Ananda: y

William Mitchell: y

yogijan: y

Neil Gilchrist: y

aarni.kimmo: y

: Kundalini people often nhave very difficult eraly lives. Very

challenging.

iamwaitingmoon: y

: early

Janet . Miller: my heart has been pounding for days

: From childhood rape to emotional abuse you name it.

Linda: Why is that?

Linda: Karma?

: yes rapid heart rate is common. If you are concernedd and can do so

get it chekced but i can tell you it is a fact that Kundalini nwill do this.]

: that was for you janet.

: Yes Kundalini nwill begoij nto prepare the individual for its

expression in the early childhood experience.

Janet . Miller: i have rtouble with high bp

: begin.

: High B/p is another symptoms nunless you havevother idications bfor

it.

: As the child is given these stressors the karma is indeed

beingbalanced.

William Mitchell: I am sorry but I have to leave. you can use my

experience thus far in any way you want if it would be beneficial to someone.

And please give me the scatterfield previously mentioned. Peace and God Bless

everyone.

: bye Bill.

: thak you.

Brad Smith: be well Bill!

William Mitchell:

Adrian Velazco: bye Bill

William Mitchell: my pleasure

elektra.fire: <3

: So as these challenges occur and if they have occurred for you know

that thisnisnwhy bthey have occurred!

: this is why

Edok Ananda: yes

: No not nfor eveyojne but as you are here with Kundalini in process

or considering it. Then yes for you this nis why oit occurred.

Linda: You answered a wquestion I was mentally asking hehe

: So know this and begin to surrender into this acceptqnce that your

life was and is as it needs to be for this gift to be given. Certain areas of

karma had to be cleared. Certain areas of experience had to be given.

: Please connect with to set up phone meetings.

elektra.fire: y

David Gottlieb: y

chrism: k

aarni.kimmo: y

Edok Ananda: y

oreganorose: y

Adrian Velazco: y

Neil Gilchrist: ok

Andrew Preston: k

yogijan: y

Brad Smith: y

Deborah Fiore: y

loro: y

Janet . Miller: y

Linda: y

: I will wind this up any questions?

iamwaitingmoon: yes

: OK Danielle?

wtw11171: ok

Edok Ananda: can we call thru messnger ?

: I must say that each and every one of you are goiung to be

challenged.

: This is what occurs.

iamwaitingmoon: Question: writings can trigger surrender as readily as music and

such...I mean even IM msgs?

chrism: and this i accept

: Even ijnside of an existent flow.

wtw11171: fastest shower in the world

: Yes Danielle.

: lol!

wtw11171: they call me minute man for more than one thing I guess

Deborah Fiore: rofl

aarni.kimmo:

iamwaitingmoon: very intense and beautiful.

: Anything can trigger the Kundalini wait and see what happnes when

we meet!

iamwaitingmoon: lol

elektra.fire: i have been buzzing this whole time

David Gottlieb: me too

Deborah Fiore: love those sweet body buzzes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

aarni.kimmo: I've had kriyas, but it happens often reading KAS forum too

: yes edgar.

Brad Smith: is everyone's highest purpose after awakening to help others

awaken? What other purposes do we serve as we awaken?

Edok Ananda: k thanks

elektra.fire: to be a beacon

Linda: What did Edgar ask

: It gpoes far beyond the earth expression bradly. There are those

learning who are not even incarnated.

: about calls.

: So any other questions?

: going....

: going....

Edok Ananda: lol

Brad Smith: lol

Deborah Fiore: lol

David Gottlieb: much love and thanks!

elektra.fire: GONE?

David Gottlieb: Thanks also to Bradly & !

: thank you everyone for attending bhis cinference!

Brad Smith: yes, thanks Chrism

loro: thank you bradly chrism and all

aarni.kimmo: fast two hours, thank you

: please connect with .

oreganorose: thank you, chrism

Adrian Velazco: thank you chrism

chrism: thank you chrism, , and bradly!!

elektra.fire: Its a privelage and an honour

Neil Gilchrist: Thanks Chrism

Linda: Thanks chris and and Bradly

Andrew Preston: thank you, so glad I made it, excellent!

elektra.fire: x x x

Adrian Velazco: , bradly and everyone else

iamwaitingmoon: Thank you Chrism, ALL.

Brad Smith: thank you to Shakti !

: LOVE~for you ALL!

wtw11171: thanks all

Neil Gilchrist: Thanks Brad and

Edok Ananda: thank you Bradly and all

elektra.fire: love u all

yogijan: thanks Chrism, bradley, !

Janet . Miller: thankyou chrism

wtw11171: peace and blessing to al

wtw11171: all

elektra.fire: MWAAAAAAAA*

Lazarus Again: thanks all

Edok Ananda:

loro: Elektra - two time sin a roll good for you and us

wtw11171: you have my contact info., yes?

Deborah Fiore: Thanks Chrism!!! and you too Bradly and ! Much love Kundas

- Thank you Thank you!

Linda:

elektra.fire: I'm off to bed now its nearly 2 AM

elektra.fire: night night x x x

Brad Smith: 3 in Seoul, lol

elektra.fire: night Bradley

Deborah Fiore: night Lekky - sweet dreams girl!

Andrew Preston: night all, much love to eveyone, be safe x

Linda: I am off to cook

Brad Smith: gnight Elektra!

elektra.fire: nightDebs x x x

aarni.kimmo: good night elektra

yogijan: good night Elektra xxx

wtw11171: night elektra

elektra.fire: Good night Aarni

loro: parting is such sweet sorrow ...

Andrew Preston has left the conference.

 

chrism: night, morning, and afternoon to all

Adrian Velazco: good morning and good night!

elektra.fire: we are like the waltons!!!!

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ha, that's weird, I guess I was chrism again. I wonder why it's doing that, I

downloaded the new messenger...

 

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Oh, that's sounds so harsh " Carla Declined " I wasn't signed up for Sunday,

we were actually able to get married today with only 2 days to plan it. I

will send a pic soon.

I'm looking forward to the next conference call already....

 

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Dear Chrism,

There was some technical problem yesterday.It may be as it was my 1st online

conference,I am an old horse learning new tricks these days.Whatever I could

hear from you was pleasant,like words from an angel.I find you to be an Angel in

human form.I could understand every word you spoke.Anyway,I have gone through

the transcript, its nice.......................shrikant(shrism)

 

 

 

 

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Sun, 11 October, 2009 11:22:42 PM

Sunday Student Conference

 

 

 

loro has joined the conference.

 

Adrian Velazco has joined the conference.

 

Brad Smith has joined the conference.

 

Neil Gilchrist has joined the conference.

 

William Mitchell has joined the conference.

 

Carla Dornan: No, thank you.

Messenger: Carla Dornan has declined to join.

Janet . Miller has joined the conference.

 

shrikantphule has joined the conference.

 

oreganorose has joined the conference.

 

yogijan has joined the conference.

 

Brad Smith: hello everyone!

Neil Gilchrist: Hi Brad

aarni.kimmo has joined the conference.

 

Adrian Velazco: hello

William Mitchell: Good Morning Brad

Brad Smith: neil can you hear?

Brad Smith: Hi Bill!

: ello everyone!

Neil Gilchrist: No but I can see the typing

loro: brad i cannot hear is c talking as yet

: your mic.

Brad Smith: okay, i'll type what says

Brad Smith: we hear you Chrism

Adrian Velazco: good morning

Brad Smith: says Good morning

Brad Smith: good afternoon

loro: i have lots mote to invite so wait please

William Mitchell: Loud and clear Chrism, Good Morning

Brad Smith: good evening

Brad Smith: hello to Shrikant

Brad Smith: hellos to everyone

Neil Gilchrist: Hi Chrism

Brad Smith: Can you hear Neil?

Neil Gilchrist: No

Carla Dornan: No, thank you.

Messenger: Carla Dornan has declined to join.

loro: i can not hear well ina ndout

Brad Smith: is saying hello to Shrikant

Janet . Miller: im here hello i cannot hear anything though

Brad Smith: thanking him for joining us in India

loro: brad invite maggie andy jonathan

Brad Smith: I will type for Janet, no worries

Neil Gilchrist: My speakers work for everything else except Mess

Janet . Miller: thankyou brad

: I am fine Shrikant good to see you here!

Brad Smith: Maggie, andy and Jonathan are invited

Brad Smith: though looks like so far, andy was the only one online

iamwaitingmoon has joined the conference.

 

Linda has joined the conference.

 

wtw11171 has joined the conference.

 

Andrew Preston has joined the conference.

 

Linda: No, thank you.

Messenger: Linda has declined to join.

: Hello Rose!

oreganorose: hello

: Andrew hello!

wtw11171: Hello and all

Andrew Preston: Hey guys!

: Danielle Hello!

loro: chrism are you talking

iamwaitingmoon: Hi and all.

: Janet nice to see you here!

Brad Smith: He's not speaking yet

: Warren Good sunday to you!

wtw11171: and to you

Andrew Preston: What a great surprise, just arrived back from a long journey in

time for this!

wtw11171: y

Adrian Velazco: y

aarni.kimmo: Y

iamwaitingmoon: y

oreganorose: y

yogijan: y

loro: i can not hear

Brad Smith: Type y if you can hear chrism

Brad Smith: no if you cannot

Neil Gilchrist: no

Andrew Preston: no

aarni.kimmo: Thank you

Brad Smith: welcomes everyone

Brad Smith: we are not ready to start yet

Brad Smith: people are still joining us

Brad Smith: we will start in about 10 minutes

William Mitchell: y

Adrian Velazco: I'm in Northern California!

Brad Smith: for those who can not hear, I'm typing for Chrism

Brad Smith: says he may be kicked of the internet from time to time

Brad Smith: no worries, if it happens

loro: why can i not hear well please

Brad Smith: might kick off

Brad Smith: he will get back on, no worries

Edok Ananda has joined the conference.

 

Brad Smith: is not sure why you can't hear

David Gottlieb has joined the conference.

 

Brad Smith: nice to see you Bill

William Mitchell: thank you chrism

William Mitchell: nice to hear you

Brad Smith: Good morning to Edgar

Brad Smith: Nice to see you David, thanks for joining

David Gottlieb: Hello and thank you!

Brad Smith: Happy sunday to Edgar

Adrian Velazco: y

David Gottlieb: y

Brad Smith: can everyone hear okay

William Mitchell: scratchy but not bad

wtw11171: y I hear fine

oreganorose: y

iamwaitingmoon: y

Edok Ananda: y

aarni.kimmo: some thumps but ok

William Mitchell: thank you bradly and !

Brad Smith: chrism thanks brad and

Brad Smith: for helping to organize

Brad Smith: Thanks to you chrism for everything too!

wtw11171: thank you brad and

David Gottlieb: Much thanks to you both!

Brad Smith: Craig should be in in a second

Brad Smith: LInda and Craig need in

chrism has joined the conference.

 

chrism: I'm a chrism again?

Linda has joined the conference.

 

Edok Ananda: Good Sunday to everybody, Bradly &

Brad Smith: he appears as Craig A to me Chrism, not sure why on your computer he

does that

Brad Smith: , can you invite Elektra?

loro: no

loro: she is not on my list

Linda: hi chris thanks and back at you

Brad Smith: elektra.fire

Brad Smith: if you try the other invite

Brad Smith: i just did it, with her id chrism

Brad Smith: i hope it works

Brad Smith: 5 min before start all

Andrew Preston: elktras is .co.uk not .com if that helps

Brad Smith: any questions now?

Brad Smith: please type your questions everyone

Brad Smith: and unclick the handsfree button please

Deborah Fiore has joined the conference.

 

Deborah Fiore: hi kundas its deb

: hello deb!

Brad Smith: Shrikant, can you unclick the handsfree button now please?

Deborah Fiore: hi chrism!

loro: i cannot get elektra on

loro: someone please invite her ELEKTRA>FIRE

loro: elektra.fire

Brad Smith: I've tried...

wtw11171: I tired

chrism: I tried too

loro: elektra signed out

Brad Smith: I think it is something to do with the 'great firewall of China'

William Mitchell: LOL

William Mitchell: Maybe have her reboot the computer

loro: brad did you try jonathan

Brad Smith: yes

Brad Smith: welcomes everyone

Brad Smith: names everyone by name

Brad Smith: welcoming all

aarni.kimmo: tried inviting elektra

Brad Smith: and thanks everyone for coming

Deborah Fiore: i still have no sound - i did upload the latest version but so

forgive me if i don't hear you -

: no hadphones deb?

Brad Smith: everyone please unclick the hands free button on the left, just

above the text typing window

: headphones

Deborah Fiore: yes have those - its a mac issue

Brad Smith: so only chrism will speak

: ahh.

Deborah Fiore:

Brad Smith: okay, the student conference is about deepening the connection to

the kundalini

Brad Smith: as it is expressed through the kas1 system

Brad Smith: will talk slower this time

Brad Smith: so bradly can keep up

Brad Smith: he thanks me for typing

Brad Smith: and allowing those that can't be hear to read this who are on the

group

Brad Smith: issue invitations to elektra

elektra.fire has joined the conference.

 

loro: yeah

Brad Smith: we are here to deepen our connection to the kundalini

loro: we did it

Andrew Preston: woohoo

Brad Smith: through how it is given through the kas1 site

Brad Smith: if stops from time to time, no worries

Brad Smith: he will come back online

Brad Smith: realize why we are here

Brad Smith: what our purpose is

Brad Smith: begin to get a dramatic understanding of what is bringing us here

Brad Smith: Shrikant please turn off your microphone

Brad Smith: Shakti has a tremendous personality

William Mitchell: shrikant you're mic is cutting out chrism

Brad Smith: says he doesn't

wtw11171: shirkant needs to turn off hands free

Brad Smith: Shrikant, can you hear us?

: hello shrikant?

Brad Smith: make sure the hands free box has NO checkmark in it

Brad Smith: lol, okay?

Brad Smith: or manually unplug your microphone

Brad Smith: thank you!

: thank you my friend!

wtw11171: mute

Brad Smith: talking about removing microphones. ..

Brad Smith: Shrikant, we can still hear you...

Brad Smith: speakers are ok, microphone unplugged please

Brad Smith: a little louder please chrism!

wtw11171: you can mute the mic in your sound icon

Brad Smith: as we listen, please ground ourselves in the reality

Brad Smith: of being here

Brad Smith: tap into the fact that the kundalini is expressing or potentially

expressing through us

Brad Smith: this is something that we want to

Adrian Velazco: breaking up chrism

Brad Smith: we didn't catch that Chrism

wtw11171: y breaking up

yogijan: y

elektra.fire: hello

Brad Smith: can everyone understand chrism

loro: no can barely hear you

wtw11171: y

Brad Smith: y for yes

oreganorose: y

William Mitchell: understand yes and not too loud

Adrian Velazco: y

chrism: y

aarni.kimmo: y

loro: n

yogijan: y

Linda: y

Brad Smith: y

Edok Ananda: y

David Gottlieb: I cannot hear chrism at all

loro: electra is now on

Andrew Preston: i cant hear anything, just following the text

loro: yes it is at high

Brad Smith: do you have a volume swithch?

elektra.fire: i dont get sound

Linda: breaking up off and on, much like Wed

Brad Smith: try to adjust that

loro: was better last time

Brad Smith: no worries elektra, glad you made it in

: david are you on headphoines and mic?

Brad Smith: Bradly is typing for chrism

elektra.fire: thanks to everyone

David Gottlieb: headphones good, mic turned off. I heard you fine earlier.

Brad Smith: says maybe he'll get a new microphone

Brad Smith: maybe the problem is with his microphone

Brad Smith: he'll get one soon

iamwaitingmoon: lol

Edok Ananda: haha

William Mitchell: LOL

Brad Smith: no worries Chrism

Linda: hehe

Brad Smith: lets keep going

Brad Smith: chrism jokes about shopping for a mike right now

Brad Smith: because this is a student conference

Brad Smith: chrism wants to get right into what this is about

Brad Smith: Who has made a public declaartion about being as student?

Brad Smith: y for yes

elektra.fire: y

Adrian Velazco: y

Brad Smith: y

Neil Gilchrist: y

William Mitchell: y

aarni.kimmo: y

Deborah Fiore: y

chrism: y

Edok Ananda: y

David Gottlieb: Y

Andrew Preston: y

loro: y

Linda: y

Janet . Miller: y

yogijan: y

oreganorose: y

iamwaitingmoon: y-private

Brad Smith: from that declaration that you made

Brad Smith: source yourself right now

wtw11171: y

Brad Smith: go inside and see what your current feeling about this is right now

Brad Smith: see what it is, what does your heart tell you

Brad Smith: is this right for you, is this what you want to do

Brad Smith: give yourself a few seconds

wtw11171: y

iamwaitingmoon: y

William Mitchell: YES

aarni.kimmo: y

Brad Smith: if this is still something that you want to explore

loro: y

Adrian Velazco: y

oreganorose: y

chrism: y

Edok Ananda: YES

Brad Smith: write a y for a yes

yogijan: y

David Gottlieb: yes

Brad Smith: or n for no

Janet . Miller: y

Brad Smith: y

Andrew Preston: yes

Deborah Fiore: y

Neil Gilchrist: y

elektra.fire: y

Linda: y

Brad Smith: for those who wrote a y

Brad Smith: chrism wishes to discuss the scatterfield now

Brad Smith: soon he will attach the scatterfield to us

Brad Smith: about 4 feet above our left shoulder

Brad Smith: same as for the shaktipat

Brad Smith: this is for communication

Brad Smith: breaking up Chrism!!!

wtw11171: can't hear

Brad Smith: this is for specific energetics

Brad Smith: apologizes for his microphone

Adrian Velazco: no

iamwaitingmoon: n

Brad Smith: n

William Mitchell: No

yogijan: n

chrism: no, you sound far away

oreganorose: n

Adrian Velazco: y

William Mitchell: yes

chrism: y

Edok Ananda: n

Brad Smith: asked if what he was doing was better or worse

yogijan: y

oreganorose: y

Adrian Velazco: y

William Mitchell: way better

iamwaitingmoon: y

chrism: y

Brad Smith: y

aarni.kimmo: didn't get the guestion

aarni.kimmo: now it's better

William Mitchell: LOL

Brad Smith: aarni, he was just asking how his microphone sounded

loro: brad can you try caraleen98

William Mitchell: no

wtw11171: I hear nothing

yogijan: n

Adrian Velazco: y

aarni.kimmo: yes

iamwaitingmoon: y

chrism: y

Edok Ananda: y

loro: better

William Mitchell: y

oreganorose: y

Linda: y

yogijan: y

Adrian Velazco: much better

Brad Smith: can eveyrone hear now?

Brad Smith: y

wtw11171: oh well

Brad Smith: yes, that 's good chrism

chrism: missing some numbers

David Gottlieb: I'm on text only, but thanks to Bradly, seeing all the text.

wtw11171: n

Brad Smith: Warren, please read the text

Brad Smith: will go slow so bradly can type

Brad Smith: the scatterfield is 4 ft above the left shoulder

Brad Smith: it is the point of communication

Brad Smith: it provides a conduit for energetic teachings

Brad Smith: via that scatterfield communication point

Andrew Preston: (I clicked the voice tab at the top twice and can now hear

chrism, if that helps anyone else...)

Brad Smith: it is of no concern, same as during a regular shaktipat

Andrew Preston: hi

wtw11171: good deal

wtw11171: think I can hear now

Brad Smith: continuing

Brad Smith: the fact that the new scatterfield will be permanent

Brad Smith: is like a fixture or connection to shakti through Chrism

Brad Smith: this does not make your kundalini the same as Chrisms

Brad Smith: it's more like accentuating it within it's own personal

Brad Smith: contextual platform

Brad Smith: it's a stimulation for your own kundalini

Brad Smith: rather than adopting chrism's kundalini

Brad Smith: most people wouldn't want Chrism's kundalini

Brad Smith: you need your own

Brad Smith: Chrism's can help yours

Brad Smith: but it is not there to replace it

William Mitchell: y

Adrian Velazco: y

chrism: y

Andrew Preston: y

aarni.kimmo: y

iamwaitingmoon: y

loro: y

wtw11171: y

Brad Smith: does everybody understand?

yogijan: y

oreganorose: y

Linda: y

Edok Ananda: y

Brad Smith: y for yes

Brad Smith: y

Deborah Fiore: y

Neil Gilchrist: y

Janet . Miller: y

elektra.fire: y

David Gottlieb: y

Brad Smith: did a radio interview with margaret and

Brad Smith: on the radio program

Brad Smith: on blog talk radio on All We ARe

Brad Smith: at one point talking about himself getting results

Brad Smith: but he wants it to be clear

Brad Smith: that it is not him, that gets results

Brad Smith: but it is the Shakti kundalini that gets results

Brad Smith: chrism was troubled that he miscommunicated that

Brad Smith: he was communicated with by shakti last night

Brad Smith: and was reminded that it is the kundalini or shakti that gets the

results

Brad Smith: he stresses us to make our best efforts to always be clear about

this

Brad Smith: it's never the little ego person

Brad Smith: it's always the higher divine aspects of the individual

Brad Smith: the individual is the conduit

Brad Smith: please listen to the interview

Brad Smith: links on the main group on the posts

Brad Smith: Chrism? you broke up???

William Mitchell: lost ya chrism

Edok Ananda: i did last nyt

Brad Smith: the responsibilities of the student will be as follows

Brad Smith: practice the safeties is the most important things

Brad Smith: if you are not practicing, the scatterfield will know

Brad Smith: everyone's practice is unique

Brad Smith: one second Chrism...

Brad Smith: SHRIKANT... microphone off!!!!

Brad Smith: asks if you could please get your microphone unplugged

Brad Smith: lol

William Mitchell: ugh

Adrian Velazco: I put shrikant on ignore, and he is no longer cutting in

Adrian Velazco: if that helps

Adrian Velazco: right click his name

Adrian Velazco: and click ignore

William Mitchell: nice, I just did too

wtw11171: right click what

William Mitchell: shrikants name

Andrew Preston: his name

Brad Smith: okay, but lets please 'unignore' him once chrism is done speaking

loro: i do not see ignore

Brad Smith: chrism is talking about how to turn off Shrikants microphone

Brad Smith: so eveyrone can hear him clearly

William Mitchell: right click on shrikant's name in the connected users list

shrikantphule will be ignored.

loro: yes

William Mitchell: ignore is near the bottom

Brad Smith: yes

Brad Smith: the practice of the safeties is very important

Brad Smith: for those with active kundalini

Brad Smith: the safeties will modulate your kundalini

Brad Smith: chrism will make contact with everyone via computer or telephone

Brad Smith: little one on one conferences

Brad Smith: he will initiate eveyrone's individual educational platform

wtw11171: ok

wtw11171: y

chrism: y

loro: y

William Mitchell: Y

Adrian Velazco: y

yogijan: y

Edok Ananda: y

Brad Smith: indicate with a y if you wish this done

oreganorose: y

elektra.fire: y

Brad Smith: y

Linda: y

David Gottlieb: y

Andrew Preston: y

Neil Gilchrist: y

Janet . Miller: y

aarni.kimmo: y

Deborah Fiore: y

iamwaitingmoon: y

Brad Smith: chrism will begin to schedule these talks

Brad Smith: he needs to talk to everyone in real time

Brad Smith: at this point

loro: have tried numerous times

wtw11171: who

loro: she can not get on

Brad Smith: done

Brad Smith: chrism will open it up for questions right now

Brad Smith: type out your questions if you have one at this time

Adrian Velazco: I have a question

Adrian Velazco: last conference you said that some martial arts may interfere

with the scatterfield

wtw11171: I see no questions

Adrian Velazco: I can't remember exactly

Brad Smith: chrism says the martial arts won't interfere with the scatterfield

Brad Smith: as far as martial arts goes

Adrian Velazco: I'm doing taekwondo and yoga

Brad Smith: it depends on the type

Brad Smith: if you are doing a martial art, like a battle type in the astral

state against entities

Brad Smith: that might affect things

Brad Smith: only one person chrism knows of was doing that

Brad Smith: martial arts in and of themselves are good for the condition of the

physical and mental body

wtw11171: What about exorcisms

Adrian Velazco: I'm doing it for mental and physical conditioning. I don't know

anything about battling with astral entities.

Brad Smith: the martial arts are not so good, when it comes to initiating

competition against others

Brad Smith: and for ego based things about winning and losing

Brad Smith: when it is about comparing yourselves to others, it's not good

Adrian Velazco: I understand

Brad Smith: these are things to watch out for when you engage in martial arts

Linda: Yesterday on the radio you said a person who is ill should not send

healing to others. Could you explain more about that?

Brad Smith: he asks us to keep those things in mind

Brad Smith: other questions?

wtw11171: Exorcisms

Brad Smith: is talking about linda's question

Brad Smith: he says if you are not balanced in your own process

Brad Smith: you perhaps shouldn't be sending healing

Brad Smith: it was around a specific example about a certain doctor he was

talking about

Brad Smith: Chrism, too fast, and your breaking up a bit!

Brad Smith: people giving healing to others, needs to be balanced themselves

loro: slow down please chrism

Brad Smith: to the degree you can clean up your own life and do things for

yourselves

Brad Smith: if you are sick yourself, you shouldn't be giving healing to others

Linda: OK thanks

Brad Smith: if you are sick in bed, you need to save the energy for yourself to

heal your own condition

Brad Smith: that is what wanted to point out

Brad Smith: he wants to speak about Exorcisms now

Brad Smith: the casting out of demons

Brad Smith: they are pretty much only done by Catholic preists

Brad Smith: in those applications, certain entities have come into individuals

and are causing problems

wtw11171: SOme times there are house exorcisms

Brad Smith: lots of people carry consciousness that is not our own, in certain

places in our body

wtw11171: evil spirit is not in person but controling the home

Brad Smith: these entities gain powere through fear they evoke

Brad Smith: a body can be like a house

Brad Smith: yes some people can release them through a pillar of light

wtw11171: I have had to do this before

Brad Smith: these are fairly inocuous applications

wtw11171: IT does not occur on an everyday basis

Brad Smith: once people get beyond the fear of entities, seeing fantastic things

wtw11171: If I should get a call to do this. Is this allowed

Brad Smith: the exorcisms are not much of an issue after you move beyond these

areas

wtw11171: Yes I have

Brad Smith: asks warren if he is participating in these activities.. ..

wtw11171: I usually use the rite of exorcsim

wtw11171: offer mass

Brad Smith: and how he is doing them

wtw11171: and burn incense

wtw11171: thrrough the home

wtw11171: I also light candle

wtw11171: open window

wtw11171: yes

Brad Smith: asks warren if it helps

wtw11171: I bring relics

wtw11171: and ask for the intercsession of siast

wtw11171: saimts

Brad Smith: chrism doesn't see a problem with it

elektra.fire: what did warren say

wtw11171: this will not affect kundalini

Brad Smith: as long as he keeps the activities balanced in a loving way

wtw11171: no

Brad Smith: if he goes in to 'do battle with demons' it might be bad

wtw11171: I do this out of love

Brad Smith: yes, chrism wants brad to rephrase

Brad Smith: go ahead C

Brad Smith: if he goes in with a warrior mode in to cast out demons in the name

of christ

Brad Smith: he may be buying into a fear aspect of it

Brad Smith: better to enter in a loving way

wtw11171: if you go in negative it is easy for evil spirit to poses you

Brad Smith: you have no clue if it is a demon or not

wtw11171: spirit feeds on emotion

Brad Smith: and if it is a demonic expression

wtw11171: yes

Brad Smith: if you can keep it within the confines of the safeties expression

that would be best

Brad Smith: and keep in mind, what you are casting out can jump into you

wtw11171: good enough

Brad Smith: so keep your mind, spirit and everything clean

Brad Smith: everyone kundalini accentuates entity contact

Brad Smith: if you place yourself in a situation where you confront entities

Brad Smith: whether from courage or desire to help

Brad Smith: if your own personal fear levels are unbalanced

Brad Smith: then the entity may follow you home

Adrian Velazco: Chrism, i find it hard to believe in entities, because I haven't

seen them.

Brad Smith: it's not something that chrism recomends to go about setting up

pillars of light in graveyards

Brad Smith: but if you have a calling for it, you may

Brad Smith: Chrism, Eilleeen will tyep for a bit

Brad Smith:

loro: invite edgar please

Brad Smith: go ahead!

loro: c says you get authentic expereince

Andrew Preston: I have a question; For someone who is not k awakened, is it

through the practice of the safeties and tibetans alone you can awaken your k,

or is that alone not enough? i.e do you have to also have to have shaktipat

loro: any otehr ?'s

wtw11171: good question

loro: for some people the meredepending on your situation

loro: shaktipat for yo to have a balnced awakeing

loro: becuase of lives you influence

Andrew Preston: agree totally, it is a worry given my job

loro: teacher and you come intot hte lives of children not condusive to

force Kundalini

Andrew Preston: yeh they have enough problems without seeing that

loro: not a good idea to have kryias in front of kids

Andrew Preston: it is something I think about a lot

loro: brad invite lazarus please

wtw11171: Some times I have pressure in third eye and maybe tingling in back. Am

I in an ealry awakening

loro: so we go slowly we do not rush things

loro: safeties is important part of process

loro: shakti knows what you need now

loro: at this point

Adrian Velazco: I read an interesting quote the other day " Do not seek what you

desire, instead seek the source of the desire " . Is it perhaps this seeking of

awakening K within ourselves, blocking the expression of it?

loro: best for yo to go slow

Andrew Preston: thanks chrism

loro: warren

loro: you are

loro: also

loro: warren do not do exorcisms

wtw11171: I did not hthink so

loro: welcome andrew

wtw11171: THat is why I was asking

loro: lazarus

loro: any other /'s

loro: ?'s

loro: no worries

Edok Ananda: thank you chrism i got disconnected sorry

loro: brad take over i need to invite folks

wtw11171: you are beaking up

wtw11171: maybe we can discuss thie more on phone

Brad Smith: Brad typing again for Chrism

: I ned an invitation

William Mitchell: chrism d/c?

Brad Smith: Hold on folks

Brad Smith: he will be back in a second

: invite p[lease

loro: he may have to reboot

loro: i can not get matt or lazarus on

Brad Smith: No worries everyone, hold on

: Ok I am tping

Edok Ananda: im in but i cant hear anything

Brad Smith: chrism isn't speaking at the moment

: Thats because I AM TYPING

Edok Ananda: oh ok lol

William Mitchell: LOL

William Mitchell: Braly, can you speak for Shrism's typing please?

: So another ?

William Mitchell: *chrism

Brad Smith: Chrism, change your font size and colour if you can, it's just about

the typing window

: yes

Brad Smith: Hold on eveyrone, he'll start typing in a second

: ok how is this

Andrew Preston: lovely

wtw11171: good

Brad Smith: good

chrism: good

Edok Ananda:

Adrian Velazco: I see you

William Mitchell: make it red Chrism

: Any more questions?

wtw11171: we can move on from my question and discuss my situation on the phone

: okm

: OK warren

: Anyone else?

loro: you mentioned

: So to get back to the student resposibilities.

loro: that we will be working with others

: ?

loro: here in the group

loro: other students

loro: can you speak to this

: No not byet.\

loro: ok

: This nwill be individual with me for the time being.

Brad Smith: You want us all to make a hardcopy of the safeties?

: At first then we can begin to meld others into a group situation.

loro: ty

: Yes make it so if you wish.

: I will stress that the teaching will occur on the groupsite so

please understand this unless it is of a personal nature.

: I will give instruction that will comprise general guidlines as

well as individual teachings as I am given to do.

wtw11171: what about those who did not wish to be involved

wtw11171: were there any here

: TRhere are those who will need the teaching being given to you

thqat are silent or in other ways unable to partqake of the student / teacher

relationship.

wtw11171: IC

: Is everyone ok with this?

wtw11171: y

elektra.fire: y

David Gottlieb: y

: please indicate with a Y

William Mitchell: yes

Andrew Preston: yep

chrism: y

Neil Gilchrist: y

Adrian Velazco: y

Deborah Fiore: y

oreganorose: y

aarni.kimmo: y

Brad Smith: y

Edok Ananda: yes

iamwaitingmoon: y

loro: y

yogijan: y

Janet . Miller: y

Linda: y

Edok Ananda: can u elaborate please

: will only let a p[erson be disconneced for so many time s

before it blocks the poerson out which is what has occurred for me this time.

elektra.fire: skype

Brad Smith: wishes to keep as much of the teachings on the main group so

all may benefit Edok

: If I ask you to do less spins becasue of your situation edgar I

will state this on the group.

Edok Ananda: ok thanks

: Thats what ni mean.

: Much of the teachings will come at night.

: Some of them due to sexual issues may contain components of

sexuality.

: .Please remember this is gfrom the Shakti and not from chrism,

wtw11171: I believe we should all be thankful to finally find what we have been

looking for all of our lives. We are going to receive the ability to become

Saints. What a gift.

: n our world there are many issues that are comprised of repressed

sexual situations

: These block a person in very special ways.

: Kundalini Shakti will strive to unblock these issues in a person.

: So please understand this.

: In qa very real way warren.

: Please understand that there will be no separation

: between your everyday life and the infused life of a person.

: Meaning that everyt decsion every chpoice will be made from the

aspect of

: the clarity given from the Kundalini.

: This begins to create a melding of divine consciousness and mundane

consciousness.

: This is whereI am coming from at this moment.

: The divine flesh.

elektra.fire:

wtw11171:

: Does everyone understand?

aarni.kimmo: y

wtw11171: y

chrism: y

David Gottlieb: y

loro: y

Andrew Preston: yes

Neil Gilchrist: y

Deborah Fiore: y

yogijan: y

Adrian Velazco: y

William Mitchell: y

oreganorose: y

elektra.fire: y

Linda: y

Edok Ananda: y

Janet . Miller: y

iamwaitingmoon: y

Brad Smith: y

: You will no olonger be the you that you are, though you will

remember that you that you are right now.

: lol!

elektra.fire:

aarni.kimmo:

Edok Ananda: cool

: This will change the way you live your life.

: This will change the way life presents itself to you.

: please be prepared to embrace these cha nges.

wtw11171: Much of like living in a 4th dimension, yes?

wtw11171: feet on earth and head in clouds

: No not so exotic. More like living beyond current definitions.

wtw11171: ok

Edok Ananda:

: The exotic will come but these do not become permanenet until

later.

: Remember the need to be able to drive a car.

wtw11171: begining stages

wtw11171: IC

: Cant do that if you see entities that are standing in the way of

the car.

Linda: I do not see some of the questions asked

Andrew Preston: lol

wtw11171:

: not so many ? yet Linda.

: I want to encourage everyone to begin to embrace the

" otherwhereness " in their lives.

: Yeds to a large part many have already done this but in a real way

this has only been partitme.

chrism: what do you mean by otherwhereness?

: Iam suggesting a deeper connection with the inner Sun.

: This will require longer periods of meditation for many of you.

: For those already in the deep process such as Ded and others there

will be q more customized event calender. - lol!

Deborah Fiore: ohoh haha

: For those who are new to this please understand that once this

process is initiated there is no turning back or turning it off.

wtw11171: some times I have a difficult time doing compression breathing becsaue

of sinus issues. I still try to do them as best I can. Is this alright?

: It is most important to be in the conditioning mode before the

lights get turned on!

chrism: yeah tell me about it...lol

aarni.kimmo: me too

elektra.fire: Warren, i find that trying a tdifferent times in the day helps.

: When the sinus is plugges up for the lips into na purse as one

would do for whisteling and do the breathing in that way.

wtw11171: it makes no difference

elektra.fire: so u breathe through the mouth?

: through the pursed lips yes.

elektra.fire: ok

wtw11171: it is not all of the time

aarni.kimmo: and the half blocked nostril at the same time?

elektra.fire: still touch the nostril while brewathing?

: no if one side is blocked do not focus on the other side just go

with the pursed lips

wtw11171: it can be frustraing so I let go and do the best I can but I can try

what you are saying

: Also eucalyptus oil or perppermint oil can help to unblock the

sinus.

elektra.fire: neti pot

: right.

: So pleasecome back into an understanding of what we are looking at

for you.

Linda: If you hold your breath out for a while it helps to unblock as well

Brad Smith: reduce milk products?

wtw11171: Usually I smell a little bit of the muscle rub

wtw11171:

Deborah Fiore:

: Take a look at the " why' of your wish for Kundalini.

elektra.fire: beeen thinking a lot about that one

: Take a look at what you are willing to do.

: Take a look at your addiction to control.

yogijan: been looking at that one.

Andrew Preston: addiction control?

: For some of you i will ask a complete surrender.

: How does this feel to you?

aarni.kimmo: I'm okay

chrism: better each day

elektra.fire: OK

loro: fine

Deborah Fiore: me too

wtw11171: y

yogijan: vacillates.

oreganorose: good

William Mitchell: fine

David Gottlieb: y

Adrian Velazco: me too

Andrew Preston: fine

Brad Smith: ok

Edok Ananda: its fine

iamwaitingmoon: ummm, yes

Linda: ok with me

Neil Gilchrist: ok

Janet . Miller: fine

aarni.kimmo: why only some?

: Look at your qualifiers behind your answers.

: See what casues these fears.

: causes

elektra.fire: thats me right this moment!

wtw11171: ourselves the world we built around us

: Because not everyone has a problem with it. - lol!

chrism: I realized that I want change but I'm afraid that the change that comes

to me is not the change I want, lol

aarni.kimmo:

wtw11171: if we are willing to give that up then we are ready, yes?

: Tale a look at what (i) that is making that statement.

: take

iamwaitingmoon: divine-Divine.

chrism: yup, I've tried it my way for so long, doesnt work...

: The whole idea is to surrender to the Kundalini.

Adrian Velazco: the ego puts up a good fight

Lazarus Again has left the conference.

 

: That is the nature of what we do in regard to surrender.

Lazarus Again has joined the conference.

 

: So please look at your concerns about this and begin to make your

peace with it.Yes?

aarni.kimmo: y

loro: y

Edok Ananda: yes

Deborah Fiore: y

Andrew Preston: y

elektra.fire: y

chrism: y

Adrian Velazco: y

oreganorose: y

yogijan: y

wtw11171: y

Brad Smith: y

William Mitchell: y

Linda: y

: Bill may I nuse you as an example?

Janet . Miller: yes

David Gottlieb: I have a strong desire to surrender to the Goddess/Infinite and

to dissole over and over in Love and Light. The little i will cling and give

" me " cahllenges - I am willing to face them...

David Gottlieb: y

: Nice david yes this is exactly what I am writing of " these

challenges "

iamwaitingmoon: I might need to step away from the computer for a second

(kriyas)

: Ah yes go with that flow dear danielle!

William Mitchell: sure

: There Danielle is showing us how many of us will need to surrender!

elektra.fire:

: Do you see what I mean?

wtw11171: y

chrism: y

Brad Smith: y

aarni.kimmo: y

elektra.fire: y

Neil Gilchrist: y

Andrew Preston: yup, i think so

David Gottlieb: y

Linda: y

Edok Ananda: y

Adrian Velazco: y

William Mitchell: y

oreganorose: y

Deborah Fiore: y

loro: y

William Mitchell: yes chrism

: A while ago Bill thought he may be having a heart attack.

: Orpreheart attack symptoms.

: He mentioned it t me.

: I said that it was probqably the Kundalini right Bill?

wtw11171: I am not sure if this is surrender or not but I have to go take a

shower soon in order to get my children to their fall ball game. I also have to

coach.

wtw11171:

William Mitchell: that is exactly what you said

: Have a nice shower warren.

: As he went to have his heart checked nothing wrong could be found.

William Mitchell: nuclear stress test

William Mitchell: passed it fine

: He had to surrender to these symptoms even though it mimicked a

very grave concern for him and his family. This is another way and examplke of

surrender.

: Take a look at this for each and every one of you and see if you

are so prepatred.

wtw11171: I am surrendering to my childrens development. I would rather be here

but this a responsibility as well.

William Mitchell: hehe warren

: A heart attack can change a persons life or end it.

: So if you feel this occurring how are you going to relate to this

and the Kundalini?

: Think about it.

Adrian Velazco: It's hard to say what I would do until it actually happens

: Many people will just want to RUN!

wtw11171: If I start feeling like I am having chest pain I am not calling 911, I

am calling CHRISM first

: They will say OK OK ! I dont want Kundalini anymore just turn it

off NOW>

Deborah Fiore: or theres always hiding under the covers...but ...woops there u

are

chrism: lol

: Well warren I suggest that ypou do call 911. Go nthough all of the

testsand regamines. Dont ake the drugs if you can help if but yes go do the

medical thing.

: MD wont know about Kundalini typically.

wtw11171: can you not manipulate your self with kundalini when pain like this

occurs?

: So no need to mention it.

wtw11171: I am not usre if I said that correctly

elektra.fire: drink some hot cayenne pepper tea for heart attack

: Manipulate how?

chrism: Guess, I'm more surrendered in this aspect, don't have health insurance

nor the money to go the medical route, lol

Deborah Fiore: lol

: same with me. Enforced financial surrender. - lol!

wtw11171: transfer this negative feeling into something positve

Deborah Fiore: hahaha

elektra.fire:

Linda: hehe, I would rather go to chrism than a doctor

: Sure if this is what you can do at the time though pain tends to

change the mindset of a person and the potential nof dying tends to change a

persons mindset.

wtw11171: how did you deal with this?

: Kundalini can get throuygh the medical testing so it isnt an issue

just ask Bill!

wtw11171: did you just feel the pain

William Mitchell: pain is a good teacher, it definitely grabs your attention

Linda: shock treatment does too

: I just let it roll and surrender completely into the arms of the

Kundalini.

wtw11171: is the pain activating the 4th chakra

William Mitchell: I am glad I went through all of the tests, all along I knew it

was K, but I didn't mention that to any nurses or doctors

William Mitchell: did the tests more for the comfort of my family

: No its just a buring bthrough of a blockage but it can sure hurt!

Deborah Fiore: i did that too last yr with my kidneys / now i know

wtw11171: does it feel like heat

: This is why the conditioning process is so very important.

wtw11171: years ago I had this feeling

wtw11171: but it was not painful

: It feels like a hear attack.

: heart

wtw11171: I felt heat in my heat

wtw11171: heart

: no the same.

wtw11171: ok

: This is all about bsurrender.

William Mitchell: ya, I had no heat or mild discomfort, it was very painful, it

would make me curl up in fetal position for 10-15 minutes at times

wtw11171: I'll BE BACK

: I bring this up as an illustration. this will also come into your

emotional expressions.

: So inside of this context once again I will ask from you total and

as complete a surrender as you can do. Is this a reality for you?

Adrian Velazco: y

chrism: y

loro: y

Brad Smith: y

David Gottlieb: y

Deborah Fiore: y

Linda: y

elektra.fire: y

Andrew Preston: y

oreganorose: y

Edok Ananda: y

William Mitchell: y

yogijan: y

Neil Gilchrist: y

aarni.kimmo: y

: Kundalini people often nhave very difficult eraly lives. Very

challenging.

iamwaitingmoon: y

: early

Janet . Miller: my heart has been pounding for days

: From childhood rape to emotional abuse you name it.

Linda: Why is that?

Linda: Karma?

: yes rapid heart rate is common. If you are concernedd and can do so

get it chekced but i can tell you it is a fact that Kundalini nwill do this.]

: that was for you janet.

: Yes Kundalini nwill begoij nto prepare the individual for its

expression in the early childhood experience.

Janet . Miller: i have rtouble with high bp

: begin.

: High B/p is another symptoms nunless you havevother idications bfor

it.

: As the child is given these stressors the karma is indeed

beingbalanced.

William Mitchell: I am sorry but I have to leave. you can use my

experience thus far in any way you want if it would be beneficial to someone.

And please give me the scatterfield previously mentioned. Peace and God Bless

everyone.

: bye Bill.

: thak you.

Brad Smith: be well Bill!

William Mitchell:

Adrian Velazco: bye Bill

William Mitchell: my pleasure

elektra.fire: <3

: So as these challenges occur and if they have occurred for you know

that thisnisnwhy bthey have occurred!

: this is why

Edok Ananda: yes

: No not nfor eveyojne but as you are here with Kundalini in process

or considering it. Then yes for you this nis why oit occurred.

Linda: You answered a wquestion I was mentally asking hehe

: So know this and begin to surrender into this acceptqnce that your

life was and is as it needs to be for this gift to be given. Certain areas of

karma had to be cleared. Certain areas of experience had to be given.

: Please connect with to set up phone meetings.

elektra.fire: y

David Gottlieb: y

chrism: k

aarni.kimmo: y

Edok Ananda: y

oreganorose: y

Adrian Velazco: y

Neil Gilchrist: ok

Andrew Preston: k

yogijan: y

Brad Smith: y

Deborah Fiore: y

loro: y

Janet . Miller: y

Linda: y

: I will wind this up any questions?

iamwaitingmoon: yes

: OK Danielle?

wtw11171: ok

Edok Ananda: can we call thru messnger ?

: I must say that each and every one of you are goiung to be

challenged.

: This is what occurs.

iamwaitingmoon: Question: writings can trigger surrender as readily as music and

such...I mean even IM msgs?

chrism: and this i accept

: Even ijnside of an existent flow.

wtw11171: fastest shower in the world

: Yes Danielle.

: lol!

wtw11171: they call me minute man for more than one thing I guess

Deborah Fiore: rofl

aarni.kimmo:

iamwaitingmoon: very intense and beautiful.

: Anything can trigger the Kundalini wait and see what happnes when

we meet!

iamwaitingmoon: lol

elektra.fire: i have been buzzing this whole time

David Gottlieb: me too

Deborah Fiore: love those sweet body buzzes!!!!!! !!!!!!!!

aarni.kimmo: I've had kriyas, but it happens often reading KAS forum too

: yes edgar.

Brad Smith: is everyone's highest purpose after awakening to help others

awaken? What other purposes do we serve as we awaken?

Edok Ananda: k thanks

elektra.fire: to be a beacon

Linda: What did Edgar ask

: It gpoes far beyond the earth expression bradly. There are those

learning who are not even incarnated.

: about calls.

: So any other questions?

: going....

: going....

Edok Ananda: lol

Brad Smith: lol

Deborah Fiore: lol

David Gottlieb: much love and thanks!

elektra.fire: GONE?

David Gottlieb: Thanks also to Bradly & !

: thank you everyone for attending bhis cinference!

Brad Smith: yes, thanks Chrism

loro: thank you bradly chrism and all

aarni.kimmo: fast two hours, thank you

: please connect with .

oreganorose: thank you, chrism

Adrian Velazco: thank you chrism

chrism: thank you chrism, , and bradly!!

elektra.fire: Its a privelage and an honour

Neil Gilchrist: Thanks Chrism

Linda: Thanks chris and and Bradly

Andrew Preston: thank you, so glad I made it, excellent!

elektra.fire: x x x

Adrian Velazco: , bradly and everyone else

iamwaitingmoon: Thank you Chrism, ALL.

Brad Smith: thank you to Shakti !

: LOVE~for you ALL!

wtw11171: thanks all

Neil Gilchrist: Thanks Brad and

Edok Ananda: thank you Bradly and all

elektra.fire: love u all

yogijan: thanks Chrism, bradley, !

Janet . Miller: thankyou chrism

wtw11171: peace and blessing to al

wtw11171: all

elektra.fire: MWAAAAAAAA*

Lazarus Again: thanks all

Edok Ananda:

loro: Elektra - two time sin a roll good for you and us

wtw11171: you have my contact info., yes?

Deborah Fiore: Thanks Chrism!!! and you too Bradly and ! Much love Kundas

- Thank you Thank you!

Linda:

elektra.fire: I'm off to bed now its nearly 2 AM

elektra.fire: night night x x x

Brad Smith: 3 in Seoul, lol

elektra.fire: night Bradley

Deborah Fiore: night Lekky - sweet dreams girl!

Andrew Preston: night all, much love to eveyone, be safe x

Linda: I am off to cook

Brad Smith: gnight Elektra!

elektra.fire: nightDebs x x x

aarni.kimmo: good night elektra

yogijan: good night Elektra xxx

wtw11171: night elektra

elektra.fire: Good night Aarni

loro: parting is such sweet sorrow ...

Andrew Preston has left the conference.

 

chrism: night, morning, and afternoon to all

Adrian Velazco: good morning and good night!

elektra.fire: we are like the waltons!!!!

 

 

 

 

 

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Hi all - apologies for not making the conference yesterday. Systems were

checked on Friday but on Sunday our office server was down and, despite

noumerous attempts at getting things rolling, my lack of IT knowledge and our IT

man being away with it being a weekend I was unsuccessful. I was very much

looking forward to the conference and meeting the group - this week will

hopefully be better!

 

blessings - Jonathan

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Congrads on your marriage - How exciting and wonderful -

 

May you find the blessings of love in all things around you

May you cherish your other always with love

May you radiate your love to those around you

May you be blessed with years of love for each other...

 

May Shakti and Shiva share their love with you always...

 

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that's awesome Carla, congratulations! Must have been a beautiful weekend for

you :)

 

craig

 

, " Carla & Patrick "

<bowenhealth wrote:

>

> we were actually able to get married today with only 2 days to plan it. I

> will send a pic soon.

> I'm looking forward to the next conference call already....

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